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(CNN)   The official Atheist church just launched last year, but there's already a schism in the congregation. That religion of yours is getting complicated, guys   (religion.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 467
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2014-01-06 12:02:13 AM  
Trilbies vs Fedoras?
 
2014-01-06 12:13:32 AM  
Oh God.
 
2014-01-06 12:16:29 AM  
rule one of atheism: no vegans

no really
that was the first rule
well it is the first rule in my church of atheism


our three sacraments are:
sex
drugs
gambling
and meat

of four sacraments
 
2014-01-06 12:24:53 AM  
He also said he advised them to leave the dive bar "where women wore bikinis," in favor of a more family-friendly venue.

I'll stick with the booze and bikini version, thanks.


namatad: rule one of atheism: no vegans

no really
that was the first rule
well it is the first rule in my church of atheism

our three sacraments are:
sex
drugs
gambling
and meat

of four sacraments


Looks like you would, too.
 
2014-01-06 12:35:38 AM  
IT'S HIS SURNAME! Jeez!
 
2014-01-06 12:45:02 AM  
He also said he advised them to leave the dive bar "where women wore bikinis," in favor of a more family-friendly venue.

You know, now that I think about I don't like this "family friendly" idea. Just as I don't think children should be indoctrinated into religion I wouldn't want them indoctrinated into atheism. Let them grow up and make up their own minds.
 
2014-01-06 12:49:52 AM  
after a schism, a question: can atheist churches last?

Catholic
Baptist
Christian
Methodist / Wesleyan
Lutheran
Presbyterian
Protestant
Pentecostal/Charismatic
Episcopalian/Anglican
Mormon / Latter-Day Saints
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Congregational/United Church of Christ
Jehovah's Witness
Assemblies of God
Evangelical
Church of God
Seventh-Day Adventist
Orthodox (Eastern)
Holiness/Holy
Church of the Nazarene
Disciples of Christ
Church of the Brethren
Mennonite
Reformed/Dutch Reform
Apostolic/New Apostolic
Quaker

Christian Science
Christian Reform
Independent Christian Church
Foursquare Gospel
Fundamentalist
Born Again
Salvation Army
 
2014-01-06 12:53:13 AM  
Well, this seems to working out as well as the Anarchist's Union.
 
2014-01-06 01:01:11 AM  
Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism, but at least it was an ethos.
 
2014-01-06 01:04:58 AM  

fusillade762: He also said he advised them to leave the dive bar "where women wore bikinis," in favor of a more family-friendly venue.

You know, now that I think about I don't like this "family friendly" idea. Just as I don't think children should be indoctrinated into religion I wouldn't want them indoctrinated into atheism. Let them grow up and make up their own minds.


all religion is brainwashing
atheism is not a religion

rational thought is not a religion, nor brain washing
 
2014-01-06 01:09:46 AM  
If they believe in nothing, how can there be a schism?

Did they divide by zero?
 
2014-01-06 01:13:29 AM  
I'm sorry, I can't comment on all of this. I am too consumed with the need to deliver a punch in the face to the guy in the photo.
 
2014-01-06 01:34:24 AM  
I'm an atheist and these people are all assholes.

I don't need to join a damn club to be an atheist. Are you just lonely?

What awful human beings.
 
2014-01-06 01:38:01 AM  

Confabulat: I'm an atheist and these people are all assholes.

I don't need to join a damn club to be an atheist. Are you just lonely?

What awful human beings.


They're assholes, but the important thing is that people can realize just why they might be assholes.

Given the way the areligious and non-Christians have been treated in the United States ever since McCarthy launched his witch hunts, and even before, I think they have every right to be assholes if they choose to do so.
 
2014-01-06 01:42:56 AM  
Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.
 
2014-01-06 01:47:11 AM  

gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.


I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.
 
2014-01-06 01:49:32 AM  

simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.


That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.
 
2014-01-06 01:49:38 AM  

hardinparamedic: Given the way the areligious and non-Christians have been treated in the United States ever since McCarthy launched his witch hunts, and even before, I think they have every right to be assholes if they choose to do so.


That's not true. I've been an atheist my whole life and that gives me no excuse to be an asshole. I do that all on my own.
 
2014-01-06 01:54:52 AM  

Confabulat: That's not true. I've been an atheist my whole life and that gives me no excuse to be an asshole. I do that all on my own.


Some men just want to watch the world burn. :)
 
2014-01-06 01:55:53 AM  

Confabulat: I'm an atheist and these people are all assholes.

I don't need to join a damn club to be an atheist. Are you just lonely?

What awful human beings.


they're still better than those atheism+ people.

now THOSE people are assholes.
 
2014-01-06 01:56:15 AM  

hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.

That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.


That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.
 
2014-01-06 02:01:58 AM  

simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.

That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.

That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.


If you want a series of good laughs, read up on the Apollo, Gemini and Mercury programs. Those guys got away with a LOT in those days.
 
2014-01-06 02:10:30 AM  

log_jammin: they're still better than those atheism+ people.

now THOSE people are assholes.


How so? And, I really do mean that as an honest question. I'm just an (apathetic agnostic) atheist, so don't really know much about all of these "official" factions and movements and such. What are the atheism+ people and what makes them assholes?
 
2014-01-06 02:17:41 AM  

mamoru: log_jammin: they're still better than those atheism+ people.

now THOSE people are assholes.

How so? And, I really do mean that as an honest question. I'm just an (apathetic agnostic) atheist, so don't really know much about all of these "official" factions and movements and such. What are the atheism+ people and what makes them assholes?


I'm going to go ahead and point out that's the joke.
 
2014-01-06 02:22:07 AM  

Confabulat: I'm going to go ahead and point out that's the joke.


WOOOOSH!

I'm gonna just go crawl into a hole now and hide for a bit.
 
2014-01-06 02:31:05 AM  

mamoru: log_jammin: they're still better than those atheism+ people.

now THOSE people are assholes.

How so? And, I really do mean that as an honest question. I'm just an (apathetic agnostic) atheist, so don't really know much about all of these "official" factions and movements and such. What are the atheism+ people and what makes them assholes?


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Atheism_Plus

so they are nice people
without god
 
2014-01-06 02:31:53 AM  

hardinparamedic: simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.

That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.

That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.

If you want a series of good laughs, read up on the Apollo, Gemini and Mercury programs. Those guys got away with a LOT in those days.


: /

Guys, please stay on topic.
 
2014-01-06 02:37:34 AM  

mamoru: How so? And, I really do mean that as an honest question. I'm just an (apathetic agnostic) atheist, so don't really know much about all of these "official" factions and movements and such. What are the atheism+ people and what makes them assholes?


long story short, you're either with them or you're a misogynist.
 
2014-01-06 02:39:03 AM  
martinbaena.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-06 02:42:06 AM  

gameshowhost: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.

That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.

That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.

If you want a series of good laughs, read up on the Apollo, Gemini and Mercury programs. Those guys got away with a LOT in those days.

: /

Guys, please stay on topic.


OK, what stamps haven't you collected?
 
2014-01-06 02:44:33 AM  

gameshowhost: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.

That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.

That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.

If you want a series of good laughs, read up on the Apollo, Gemini and Mercury programs. Those guys got away with a LOT in those days.

: /

Guys, please stay on topic.


24.media.tumblr.com

Hey, it is on topic. The crew of Apollo 8 were very religious.

They also weren't dicks.

upload.wikimedia.org

"And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas - and God bless all of you, all of you on the good Earth."
 
2014-01-06 02:45:20 AM  

gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.


I'm bald. Are you bald? Let's get together and talk about hair color.
 
2014-01-06 04:15:49 AM  

namatad: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Atheism_Plus

so they are nice people
without god


log_jammin: long story short, you're either with them or you're a misogynist.


Hmmm... I guess I could see that happening. Based on the link, their ideas seem fine and good, and advocating those ideas seems fine and good. But I could imagine folks getting carried away with a "you're either with us or against us, and if you don't agree with everything about how we do it in exactly the way we say, then you are against us" kind of mentality. It seems to happen all too often in just about any movement.

Not having met or interacted with any of them, I guess I'll take your statement with a provisional "fair enough". :)
 
2014-01-06 04:22:21 AM  

log_jammin: long story short, you're either with them or you're a misogynis


Sounds like the opposite of Men's Rights Activists. Either you agree blanket with them, or you're a man-hating misandrist or something.
 
2014-01-06 04:31:25 AM  
Science dammit!
 
2014-01-06 04:32:37 AM  

hardinparamedic: Say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism, but at least it was an ethos.


The tenants of National Socialism couldn't afford the high rent.
 
2014-01-06 04:35:47 AM  

hardinparamedic: "And from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, a Merry Christmas - and God bless all of you, all of you on the good Earth."


Pfft, typical GE bigotry.. Just because Bad Earth eats kitten-heart cake for breakfast doesn't mean we don't exist, you know...
 
2014-01-06 04:36:06 AM  
Either you're drinkin with me or you're drinkin against me.
 
2014-01-06 04:43:58 AM  
After a schism, a question: Can atheist churches last?

Headline in the form of a question, so the answer is as always the exact opposite of what is being implied, e.g. in this case atheist churches can, in fact, last.

On a more serious and less meme-y note, there are already plenty of atheist social clubs based around community-building, arbitrarily fabricated ritual, and tongue-in-cheek references to theist religions.  And some of the freemason lodges are going on two or three centuries old now... so, historically, the answer is also yes.

IronTom: If they believe in nothing, how can there be a schism?

Did they divide by zero?


"Atheist" is an adjective describing an organisation or philosophy, not a noun naming a specific philosophy in itself.

There are plenty of atheist organizations and philosophies around, 99% of logic-based philosophy is by definition atheist (including, interestingly, most religious philosophy, since the entire point there is to prove that the morality of x religion is a basic law of the universe whether you believe in that religion or not).  Several  religions, interestingly, are even atheist, and not just the entertaining modern ones like the Jedi or the Subgenius guys... Taoism, a religion four centuries older than Christianity, has a number of schools that are atheist.

So, no, atheists don't "believe in nothing" necessarily, they just believe in a set of things that don't include a god or gods.  Which, in complete and utter honesty as an atheist myself, I have to admit frequently still includes frivolous bullshiat of both the supernatural and pseudoscientific variety.  Social darwinism, telepathy, animism, homeopathy, etc... plenty of atheists in the ranks of the followers of all sorts of dumbass woo.
 
2014-01-06 04:44:00 AM  
I like the word schism and I like the word crampon and I like Elizabeth II Regina.
 
2014-01-06 04:46:50 AM  
So, we're gonna wind up with the Atheist Church, the Reformed Atheist Church, The Free-Will Atheists, the Mission Atheists, the Southern Atheists, the Seventh Day Atheists, Greek Orthodox Atheists, the First Church of Atheism-Scientist, the Atheist Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Martinez of Latter-Day Atheist, and Episcopalians. Where will it all end?

It's getting so you can't believe in God in peace around here anymore.

At least Atheists finally got a song.
 
2014-01-06 04:48:50 AM  

gameshowhost: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.

That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.

That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.

If you want a series of good laughs, read up on the Apollo, Gemini and Mercury programs. Those guys got away with a LOT in those days.

: /

Guys, please stay on topic.


While drinking at a strip club with some Navy pilots wearing their flightsuits, (the strippers were swarming us) one of the boys pulled a penny from his pocket.  These girls were D-U-M-B dumb, and believed every word of BS about these dudes in clearly-marked Navy flightsuits being astronauts who brought the penny back from the Moon.  While not a stamp, that routine (complete with, "NO you can't give her the *MOON* penny, are you crazy???" and "but she's SPECIAL, I want her to have it!") got them perhaps more tang than real astronauts.  Quite the vaudeville act.
 
2014-01-06 04:50:06 AM  

CoonAce: Either you're drinkin with me or you're drinkin against me

You're an Alvian too?

 
2014-01-06 04:50:34 AM  

CoonAce: gameshowhost: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: hardinparamedic: simplicimus: gameshowhost: Welcome to my Not Collecting Stamps club!  We don't collect stamps here, so let's get together and talk about not collecting stamps.

I don't have a collection of commemorative stamps from the 70's to the present day.

That's a shame. I hear that NASA had some really nice stamps in the 1970s.

That was a funny read. "Additional verification needed". Like there's a USPS center on the moon to cancel the stamps.

If you want a series of good laughs, read up on the Apollo, Gemini and Mercury programs. Those guys got away with a LOT in those days.

: /

Guys, please stay on topic.

While drinking at a strip club with some Navy pilots wearing their flightsuits, (the strippers were swarming us) one of the boys pulled a penny from his pocket.  These girls were D-U-M-B dumb, and believed every word of BS about these dudes in clearly-marked Navy flightsuits being astronauts who brought the penny back from the Moon.  While not a stamp, that routine (complete with, "NO you can't give her the *MOON* penny, are you crazy???" and "but she's SPECIAL, I want her to have it!") got them perhaps more tang than real astronauts.  Quite the vaudeville act.


Dumb whore are dumb.
 
2014-01-06 04:51:45 AM  
Any room for us Flat Earth Atheist?
 
2014-01-06 04:52:42 AM  
I think I want to start a 12-step program for non-addicts. I feel I'm missing out on all the sharing and stale donuts that addicts get.
 
2014-01-06 04:53:18 AM  
Well, the only reason people state things like "I am a(n) <insert flavour of the month group>" is to follow it up by "..and I am deeply offended by <nonissue of the month>. Queue strongly worded tweets and hashtags.
 
2014-01-06 04:55:41 AM  

hardinparamedic: Confabulat: That's not true. I've been an atheist my whole life and that gives me no excuse to be an asshole. I do that all on my own.

Some men just want to watch the world burn. :)


I don't want to set the world on fire . . .

/Obligatory FO response, amirite?
 
2014-01-06 04:56:50 AM  
I also wonder if Obamacare would pay to send me to a Sane Asylum.
 
2014-01-06 04:56:50 AM  
In before "Atheism is not a religion".

/quacks like a duck
 
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