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(Daily Mail)   Tiger Mom, not having pissed off enough people with her first book, has written a new book about how some ethnic and religious groups are inherently better than others   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 78
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2014-01-05 11:01:03 PM
11 votes:
Tiger, tiger, burning bright
With the racists of the night,
What immoral hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful bigotry?
2014-01-05 08:29:58 PM
11 votes:
As a Chinese person, I think she is full of shiat. And she and her ilk are why suicide rates among Asian kids are so high.
2014-01-05 08:30:52 PM
8 votes:
Go away.
Please.
Just go away.
2014-01-05 09:22:15 PM
7 votes:

serial_crusher: Chinese are one of the top dogs.
The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.
Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.

Fair claim in my book.  Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.

When it comes to parenting, most kids I knew who came from the backgrounds she mentioned had crazy overbearing parents who pushed them too hard.  Not quite my idea of stellar parenting.  I'd probably come up with a different list.
To their credit though, the kids who didn't grow up with severe mental health issues are now all successful doctors/lawyers and respected members of their communities.  Social Darwinism in action I guess.


That's one definition of success I suppose....give birth to a litter of children, ram them thru a brutal training program and the ones that survive are given all the rewards that sucess brings. But..dont the parents still have a responsibility to the kids that don't make the cut? I guess we could do as the Spartans did and abandon the shattered twisted gibbering husks of failed kids on a mountaintop to die a slow death from exposure, but I think we'd also lose the ability to claim we were in any way civilized.
2014-01-06 12:04:43 AM
6 votes:

RexTalionis: As a Chinese person, I think she is full of shiat. And she and her ilk are why suicide rates among Asian kids are so high.


This.

The dysfunction I had with my mom, she inherited from hers and so on. It ended last month.

Being critical of your child is one thing if accompanied by constructive support; but praise was few and far between. Then she wondered why I didn't seek out her company as I got older. I needed to pursue my dreams without her. So much needless friction. My sister never recovered to be her own independent adult.

When your culture eats its own young, it's time to get another culture.
2014-01-06 12:06:40 AM
5 votes:

serial_crusher: Chinese are one of the top dogs.
The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.
Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.

Fair claim in my book. Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.


Chinese, Indian, Iranian, and Nigerian all have way too many cultures to be lumped into one.  When you don't break that down, you're consciously or unconsciously using ethnic or racial groupings.
2014-01-05 11:34:08 PM
5 votes:
Y'alls gettin' trolled.
2014-01-06 12:24:37 AM
4 votes:
Frankly, I'd rather have happy and contented kids than rich and successful ones.
2014-01-06 12:18:34 AM
4 votes:
If the Chinese culture breeds such success, then why is China such a shiathole?
2014-01-05 11:19:42 PM
4 votes:
I don't think it should come as a surprise to anyone that this woman is a horrible person.
2014-01-05 11:13:17 PM
4 votes:
I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.
2014-01-06 05:04:59 AM
3 votes:
Yes, many people in the groups she cites are financially sucessful/highly educated, but what about the cultures they come from, ie the people who didn't immigrate?

Are the majority of cubans in cuba, the iranians in iran and the nigerians in nigeria super sucessful? It seems like many of them are stuck in poverty, are highly uneducated, and have few options.

The fact remains that people who immigrate tend to be strivers of above average education is common sense, and may not speak to a cultural superiority at all. They are just the minority of their country who were able to get out.
2014-01-06 02:46:27 AM
3 votes:
Her books are just clickbait in dead tree form. And all those "news" stories about it are merely advertisements for it.
2014-01-06 12:19:58 AM
3 votes:
Their argument seems backward and racist to me.
For the Chinese, there's a tradition of scholarship that goes back thirteen hundred years. The way to get ahead was to be a scholar. (Of course, the children of scholars had an advantage.)
For Jews, the same tradition of scholarship applies. There's even a blessing we recite upon seeing an outstanding scholar. In addition, Jews were denied the ability to work in professions and even entire sectors of the economy for hundreds of years.
The British introduced a merit-based bureaucracy system in the nineteenth century. It was modeled on the Chinese civil service system and became an escape from the caste system.
Educated Persians who escaped the Islamic Revolution (and, before that, the repressive Iranian regime), from a culture where the difference between the written language of scholarship and the language of the streets makes them mutually incomprehensible? How is this much different from the Chinese culture?

Then, of course, there's this glaring hole in their argument: Statistically speaking, the best way to become a millionaire is to choose the right parents.
2014-01-06 12:14:38 AM
3 votes:
Children are people, not vanity projects. If they learn nothing else, the one thing I sincerely hope my children learn from me is to not regret anything. There's no point in being alive if you can't be happy with yourself.
2014-01-06 12:12:17 AM
3 votes:
Fair number of folks in Hong Kong believe in some variation of what Tiger Mom preaches even before Tiger Mom became known - both the locals and a good number of the foreign expats. I also have in-laws like this. The whole overriding desire for money, academic/career success, etc., at the expense of normal social/family relationships.

And such attitudes go hand in hand with racist attitude toward various other Asians and ethnicities.

It's really quite unpleasant to talk to such people.
2014-01-05 10:48:34 PM
3 votes:
And of course she and her husband are both among the "superior" groups.  Color me shocked.
2014-01-06 08:56:31 AM
2 votes:
Total claptrap.  I do a ton of work with China and they're DEFINITELY no better than Americans.  The institutional corruption of even extremely important (things like safety and not totally destroying the environment and rendering billion dollar project unusable) tasks is unbelievable, and the total inability to form sophisticated thoughts is staggering.

In my experience their cultural learning system boils down to knowing everything they should, and understanding less than a fifth of it.
2014-01-06 03:06:24 AM
2 votes:

Gyrfalcon: doglover: jake_lex: I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.

Well, for them at any rate.

We're still talking about Rome as if they weren't a bunch of psychopathic, slave raping, rapacious warmongers so hopped up on unwatered wine and lead poisoning they didn't even care as they blighted the entirety of Europe repeatedly for more than a 1000 years with blood, pain, and death. Why? Because they wrote stuff down like "Rome is a pretty cool guy. He kills Gauls and doesn't afraid of anything." in their books and those same books became the foundation of our history.

It's possible that's the most retarded summary of "history" I've ever encountered in over 40 years of really retarded history summations.


I think it's Heridiotus.
2014-01-06 02:56:10 AM
2 votes:

doglover: jake_lex: I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.

Well, for them at any rate.

We're still talking about Rome as if they weren't a bunch of psychopathic, slave raping, rapacious warmongers so hopped up on unwatered wine and lead poisoning they didn't even care as they blighted the entirety of Europe repeatedly for more than a 1000 years with blood, pain, and death. Why? Because they wrote stuff down like "Rome is a pretty cool guy. He kills Gauls and doesn't afraid of anything." in their books and those same books became the foundation of our history.


It's possible that's the most retarded summary of "history" I've ever encountered in over 40 years of really retarded history summations.
2014-01-06 01:53:32 AM
2 votes:

Crudbucket: I remember reading somewhere that only white people could be racist. Has the internet led me astray yet again?


You never read that anywhere.
2014-01-06 01:24:40 AM
2 votes:
Chinese student pilots will memorize the entire pilot's operating handbook of a 777...They will stay up for three days learning every single federal aviation administration regulation and be able to quote them back to you. But they will still fail to shoot a decent visual approach, because that's not something that you can memorize or let a machine complete. They are masters of rote learning but often fail at application and correlation.

The work ethic she preaches is admirable and often lacking in modern American society but her parenting advice will not lead to innovation but rather a society of copycat automatons. (Sort of like modern China...go figure.)

I bet any music her children play is technically perfect, but lacking any soul or emotion whatsoever.

/I know the Asiana flight was not piloted by Chinese....
2014-01-06 01:07:42 AM
2 votes:

jake_lex: I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.


Actually, in this case she may have a point--if you survive the massive mental health issues that come with feeling that you are both better  and worse than everyone else (in various ways--believing you have to live up to an impossible ideal, having imposter syndrome, etc.)  can actually make you a serious overachiever, in much the same way that locking children in death cages without enough food will produce the ultimate warriors: Messily, painfully, and sometimes explosively.

/Seriously, there's a reason we don't do this shiat.
2014-01-06 12:24:04 AM
2 votes:
Let's see who is missing here on her list of successful nationalities/religions ...

WASPs.

Irish.

Scandinavians.

French.

Italians.

Greeks.

Poles.

Russians.

Mexicans.

Vietnamese.

Koreans.

Japanese.

Christians.

Muslims.

...

(list goes on)

Yeah, Tiger Mom bit off more than she could chew.
2014-01-06 12:15:14 AM
2 votes:
The members of the groups she mentioned tend to be very insular and consider themselves better than others by way of membership in that group.

You know, self-righteous, bigoted, racist assholes.
2014-01-06 12:14:19 AM
2 votes:
Who cares what some terrible driver has to say...
2014-01-06 12:12:39 AM
2 votes:

Dwindle: Stop with the "racial" racebaiting.

She is talking about cultures, which have nothing to do with race, and their rate of success, which is quantifiable and undeniable.

Lebanese Americans are, as a group, the most successful people in the country and it is foolish to refuse to question why.

Some ideas work better than others, stop trying to use "equality" to explain peoples mediocrity.


upload.wikimedia.org

Did you read that on a bumper sticker at the Army/Navy store?
2014-01-06 12:12:15 AM
2 votes:
www.battleswarmblog.com

/A third-generation Japanese-American friend committed suicide this past Halloween because his parents were so unrelentingly disappointed in him, despite he basically supporting them and his siblings.
//They covered it up for a month saying he was out of town, until his brother finally broke the news.
///Via text from his old phone.
/Good luck in your old age, Tiger Biatch.
2014-01-06 12:11:17 AM
2 votes:

12349876: serial_crusher: Chinese are one of the top dogs.
The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.
Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.

Fair claim in my book. Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.

Chinese, Indian, Iranian, and Nigerian all have way too many cultures to be lumped into one.  When you don't break that down, you're consciously or unconsciously using ethnic or racial groupings.


Just because you look sound and smell like someone does not actually mean you are anything like them.


lumping people together by culture is stupid. Look at your old white straight conservative neighbour to your right and your gay liberal young neighbour to your right.

Same birthplace culture religion and upbringing.
yet totally different in every way.
2014-01-06 12:07:03 AM
2 votes:
The "racial realist" bullshiat is nothing new and I hope this twat gets destroyed by the mainstreme press.
2014-01-05 11:54:41 PM
2 votes:
Stop with the "racial" racebaiting.

She is talking about cultures, which have nothing to do with race, and their rate of success, which is quantifiable and undeniable.

Lebanese Americans are, as a group, the most successful people in the country and it is foolish to refuse to question why.

Some ideas work better than others, stop trying to use "equality" to explain peoples mediocrity.
2014-01-05 11:50:17 PM
2 votes:
Big deal some dumb broad thinks she is special. Put her to work at a mine, farm, oil patch or any other area where she has to produce results as opposed to running her mouth and we will see how superior she is
2014-01-05 11:21:47 PM
2 votes:

serial_crusher: To their credit though, the kids who didn't grow up with severe mental health issues are now all successful doctors/lawyers and respected members of their communities.


You just described two populations that are rife with substance abuse problems and that's just the appetizer.
2014-01-05 10:24:47 PM
2 votes:
Huh.  I've been fairly successful in life and my mom wasn't a raging coont.

Can't explain that.
2014-01-05 09:09:35 PM
2 votes:
The fact that people like this woman are famous and are also given a soap box on which to promote their tripe is proof that there is no God.
2014-01-05 09:05:11 PM
2 votes:
If she's so superior, why is she constantly beset by the questionable cause family of fallacies?
2014-01-06 05:32:17 PM
1 votes:

keypusher: And if you turn to the second page of the report you linked to, you see the following.


Okay, fine. Maybe I was wrong with regards to the suicide rate. You're still way off base accusing me of using my ethnicity as a qualification for an opinion. And you're still a jackass.
2014-01-06 03:54:17 PM
1 votes:

keypusher: As a white person, I think you're an idiot for thinking your ethnicity gives you special dibs to be heard on this topic.


I'm noting my ethnicity because I don't want people to think that the rest of us actually agree with this nutjob. So nuts to you, you jackass.

keypusher: You're also ignorant about suicide rates, which if you look past the cliches at actual data turn out to be low among Asian-Americans.


"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports the following statistics:

At 6.19, the suicide rate for Asians/Pacific Islanders of all ages was approximately half of the overall U.S. rate of 12.08.
Suicide was the 10th leading cause of death for Asians/Pacific Islanders and the 2nd leading cause of death for youth ages 15 to 24. "

http://www.sprc.org/sites/sprc.org/files/library/API%20Sheet%20Augus t% 2028%202013%20Final.pdf

"Poor academic achievement: Two studies of Asian college students in the United States found that poor academic performance and anxiety about performing well enough was a major risk factor for suicidal ideation.41, 42"

http://www.sprc.org/sites/sprc.org/files/library/API%20Sheet%20Augus t% 2028%202013%20Final.pdf

For the general population overall, suicide is the 3rd leading cause of death for youths ages 15-24. Among Asian-Americans of the sage age, it's the second leading cause of death.

http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/10LCID_All_Deaths_By_Age_Group _2 010-a.pdf
2014-01-06 09:58:49 AM
1 votes:

bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.


I prefer "less comparatively crazy, delusional or prone to knocking on my door to enumerate my spiritual flaws while begging for money for their brand of holy spook".

"Better" is not the word I would use.
2014-01-06 08:51:48 AM
1 votes:

lohphat: RexTalionis: As a Chinese person, I think she is full of shiat. And she and her ilk are why suicide rates among Asian kids are so high.

This.

The dysfunction I had with my mom, she inherited from hers and so on. It ended last month.

Being critical of your child is one thing if accompanied by constructive support; but praise was few and far between. Then she wondered why I didn't seek out her company as I got older. I needed to pursue my dreams without her. So much needless friction. My sister never recovered to be her own independent adult.

When your culture eats its own young, it's time to get another culture.


I have been married a Chinese woman and for more than 20 years. I have watched the mother tear up marriages, and just psychological destroy the son and daughter. Skip over the lack of compassion or warmth due to parents neutering such emotions early in life.

Both my wife and her brother the doctor are emotionally distance people,unable to trust or enjoy people.Both only have only superficial relationships.  I guess it's hard to relax ,when always under the looking glass and being tested.

As the "blue collar white guy 'foreigner' I made it clear that my kids are not going to be raised as organic robots.
I'll rather pay for guitar lessons and outward bound trip, than give the world one more uptight cube rat with an MBA.
2014-01-06 06:36:21 AM
1 votes:
Y'know if she were to replace her eight ethnics groups with just white people she'd have a six figure job with Fox News in three seconds flat.
2014-01-06 06:00:27 AM
1 votes:

karmachameleon: The biggest problem with most of these arguments?  Define "success".


The best revenge.
2014-01-06 05:58:18 AM
1 votes:
The biggest problem with most of these arguments?  Define "success".
2014-01-06 04:53:28 AM
1 votes:

farkingismybusiness: Tiger, tiger, burning bright
With the racists of the night,
What immoral hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful bigotry?


You magnificent bastard, you.
2014-01-06 04:14:24 AM
1 votes:
FTA: "'That certain groups do much better in America than others - as measured by income, occupational status, test scores and so on - is difficult to talk about,' the authors write."

I think it's a fair observation that some cultures place value on things that help members excel using this particular set of metrics.  Are these really good metrics though?  I don't question the worth of being successful and having a decent income but it shouldn't be an obsession that interferes with your ability to be happy, have friendships, and appreciate the good things in life.  It may be harder to measure but I suspect people who can balance these things out likely lead more fulfilling lives than the min/maxers.
2014-01-06 03:56:27 AM
1 votes:
The secret to success is to make up bullshiat and make people buy it. Look at Bitcoin, look at this woman's book. They all started as bullshiat but now are sources of great money. I'm gonna start my own massive bullshiat too!
2014-01-06 02:47:01 AM
1 votes:
I should introduce her to some of my most successful friends. Just to see the look on her face when they all announce they don't think they're superior to anyone and their success has depended as much on things totally out of their control ie luck as it has anything they've done or how hard they've worked.
2014-01-06 02:22:48 AM
1 votes:

doglover: jake_lex: I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.

Well, for them at any rate.

We're still talking about Rome as if they weren't a bunch of psychopathic, slave raping, rapacious warmongers so hopped up on unwatered wine and lead poisoning they didn't even care as they blighted the entirety of Europe repeatedly for more than a 1000 years with blood, pain, and death. Why? Because they wrote stuff down like "Rome is a pretty cool guy. He kills Gauls and doesn't afraid of anything." in their books and those same books became the foundation of our history.


I hate to break it to you, but civilization, technology and our current standard of living have come about because many of our ancestors did some pretty shiatty things. And the people the Romans conquered weren't all flower children standing in a circle singing about peace and love when the Romans swooped in and conquered them. (I suppose you think Avatar was some kind of "based on a true story updated to a futuristic setting" movie.)
2014-01-06 02:07:43 AM
1 votes:

RexTalionis: As a Chinese person, I think she is full of shiat. And she and her ilk are why suicide rates among Asian kids are so high.


I live in china, and work in the school system. i concur. thanks.
2014-01-06 02:06:08 AM
1 votes:
Heheheh. This is so great. I look forward to the tumblrs responding to this.

She has a point about immigrants being tremendously smart and dedicated, however. They know the gift they've been given and they aren't going to waste it. Us born into the first world just don't appreciate it.
2014-01-06 02:04:06 AM
1 votes:

Steep Spiral: Chinese student pilots will memorize the entire pilot's operating handbook of a 777...They will stay up for three days learning every single federal aviation administration regulation and be able to quote them back to you. But they will still fail to shoot a decent visual approach, because that's not something that you can memorize or let a machine complete. They are masters of rote learning but often fail at application and correlation.

The work ethic she preaches is admirable and often lacking in modern American society but her parenting advice will not lead to innovation but rather a society of copycat automatons. (Sort of like modern China...go figure.)

I bet any music her children play is technically perfect, but lacking any soul or emotion whatsoever.

/I know the Asiana flight was not piloted by Chinese....


This.
2014-01-06 02:00:28 AM
1 votes:

Steep Spiral: Chinese student pilots will memorize the entire pilot's operating handbook of a 777...They will stay up for three days learning every single federal aviation administration regulation and be able to quote them back to you. But they will still fail to shoot a decent visual approach, because that's not something that you can memorize or let a machine complete. They are masters of rote learning but often fail at application and correlation.

The work ethic she preaches is admirable and often lacking in modern American society but her parenting advice will not lead to innovation but rather a society of copycat automatons. (Sort of like modern China...go figure.)

I bet any music her children play is technically perfect, but lacking any soul or emotion whatsoever.

/I know the Asiana flight was not piloted by Chinese....


Ding! Ding!  We have a winner...thread should be over but it won't be.  ;)
2014-01-06 01:50:32 AM
1 votes:
I don't know how she measures success, but any metric that doesn't include hot circus-quality sex is clearly meaningless.  I've farked women from 4 of her groups, and only the Iranian was worth a damn (and even that was hit and miss).
2014-01-06 01:37:48 AM
1 votes:
Indian here. I am surprised that a Chinese person acknowledged us in a superior people list. We've made it baby.

The problem I have with this list is the omission of Germans. Yep, the country which practically gave the world modern engineering and whose scientists made NASA is missing from the list. That's all I need to infer that this is nothing more than an opinion piece. Her end game isn't book sales in US, she is going for the bigger Asian market in China + India. Create a controversy here, and sell in Asia. Not a bad idea at all
2014-01-06 01:36:51 AM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: The fact that people like this woman are famous and are also given a soap box on which to promote their tripe is proof that there is no God.


No, it is proof that people are morons and will pay to read crap written by obnoxious, manipulative twat cheese.
2014-01-06 01:20:26 AM
1 votes:

jake_lex: I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.


Meh.  It's basic philosophy.  I think therefore I am.  Having a sense of superiority isn't the same as lacking humility.  Chuck Yeager knew he was an exceptional pilot(read his biography), but he's grounded enough to have humility and not be Iceman from Top Gun
2014-01-06 01:18:32 AM
1 votes:

ThrobblefootSpectre: baconbeard: What the hell? Fark accusing a non-white person of being given racist. Has the whole world gone mad?

Because of the trolltastic fark headline.  If the headline had instead said that she wrote a book about how western whites are inferior to immigrants (which would be an equally accurate interpretation), fark would be licking her boots and asking for autographs.


Nope. Not of fan of asshats who emigrate to the United States where there's actual civil liberities who then trash Western society. You know...where you're not going to be stoned to death in the streets for pissing off the local mullah, sexually assaulted with a metal bar while the cops do nothing, or run over with a tank for protesting the government.
2014-01-06 01:02:44 AM
1 votes:
And who runs all the big corporations in the USA?

Wanker mom is wanking.
2014-01-06 12:55:06 AM
1 votes:
I didn't read her first book, and fully intend not to read this one either.
2014-01-06 12:53:17 AM
1 votes:

kazikian: Just because it's racist, doesn't mean it isn't true. Sorry, I know that's a hard one to swallow.


24.media.tumblr.com
2014-01-06 12:51:59 AM
1 votes:

dbirchall: Can we at least agree that some groups of people are WORSE, though? I'm thinking of cross-burning trailer trash meth heads who are Christian in name only, for a start.


If you include their cultural equivalent "kill anyone who dares criticize us" strap on the bomb fundamentalist Muslim, I'm in full agreement.
2014-01-06 12:43:13 AM
1 votes:

ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.

So what you're saying is that some people are just better than others?

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Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?

Well for starters you and this dumbass author. I just don't get how people like you never see how stupid and bigoted shiat like this is. Yeah some people are better than others on an individual basis but they don't start out that way and going any further than that is racist. So save your bullshiat for your sisterfarking buddies over at the derp republic.


So, if I, a white person, believe that there are some aspects of Chinese culture that are better than corresponding aspects of white American culture, I am racist against white people?

Well, at least now I know why I hate myself.
2014-01-06 12:41:32 AM
1 votes:

wesmon: If the Chinese culture breeds such success, then why is China such a shiathole?


It's one thing to memorize tables and facts for an exam, but it's a whole different thing to come up with ideas of your own and implement them... That's why they're mass-producing products using our specifications and outright stealing our ideas to copy everything.
2014-01-06 12:39:28 AM
1 votes:

baconbeard: What the hell? Fark accusing a non-white person of being given racist. Has the whole world gone mad?


Because of the trolltastic fark headline.  If the headline had instead said that she wrote a book about how western whites are inferior to immigrants (which would be an equally accurate interpretation), fark would be licking her boots and asking for autographs.
2014-01-06 12:33:51 AM
1 votes:
AW acts like AW for the sole purpose of driving up sales for her "more advice I pulled outta my ass" book.
/Here's Tom with the weather
2014-01-06 12:32:56 AM
1 votes:
From TFA: Straying into controversial territory, Chau and her husband say that African-Americans don't make the list because the Civil Rights Movement destroyed their chance of any superiority.

'In this paradoxical sense, equality isn't fair to African-Americans,' they write.

'Superiority is the one narrative that America has relentlessly denied or ground out of its black population.'



So if not for the Civil Rights Movement...we could've gotten in on this superiority thing too? Damn you Grandma and Grandpa! You should've just ignored Jim Crow and told all those white folks that we are the superior culture. That would've gone over well.
2014-01-06 12:32:51 AM
1 votes:
What the hell? Fark accusing a non-white person of being given racist. Has the whole world gone mad?
2014-01-06 12:25:37 AM
1 votes:

bingo the psych-o: Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?


Heck I can think of entire populations that are worse off then I....oops....that's what got everyone so pissed off isn't it.
2014-01-06 12:23:21 AM
1 votes:
Uhh according to TFA, the focus is on culture not race.

Good job with the trolling there, subby!

I personally like diversity for it's own sake, because although we know genius when we see it after a lifetime of work, there is no predicting exactly where it will come from.
2014-01-06 12:21:25 AM
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"Haw!  I tr0llz0z jo0!" #923845.  U give me munny nao!
2014-01-06 12:15:29 AM
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SirEattonHogg: Fair number of folks in Hong Kong believe in some variation of what Tiger Mom preaches even before Tiger Mom became known - both the locals and a good number of the foreign expats. I also have in-laws like this. The whole overriding desire for money, academic/career success, etc., at the expense of normal social/family relationships.

And such attitudes go hand in hand with racist attitude toward various other Asians and ethnicities.

It's really quite unpleasant to talk to such people.


Bingo.

The old school wealthy in HK are so materialistic is why their sense of "class" is so cheesy and gaudy and superficial, they're dreary to be around. It's difficult to find a grounded evenly keeled person that's not a drop-forged cog.
2014-01-06 12:14:09 AM
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Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Peter von Nostrand: Tiger what? The golfer? Didn't he learn his lesson about pissing people off

No, this is Tiger's mom, or something. Writing a book about how to raise a pro-athlete, probably. Step 1) get knocked up by a black dude


styckx: Not kidding.. I don't know who this is.


This was her first book

Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother

A lot of you guys are doing exactly what you accuse Rush L et al of doing - making ad hominem attacks on someone when you haven't read the book; you've just reacted to a scrap of an article from a newspaper
2014-01-06 12:11:33 AM
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IIRC, her first book was about her transformation from being an overbearing biatch of a parent to someone who learned from her mistakes over time becoming more mature, and less overbearing in her parenting style, and the Wall Street Journal excerpt was taken way out of context.

...so I'm going to take what's written here in the Mail with a grain of salt large enough to satisfy a horse's licking needs.
2014-01-06 12:11:00 AM
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I'd have to see some excepts from the book before I condemn it.  People tend to get kneejerk  angry over silly things, and I don't trust such people's opinions in general.

Certainly some people claim American culture is inferior to some other comparative culture x.  This is a direct statement that some culture x is superior.  And to be honest it is often the self-identified enlightened progressives who make such claims.  So apparently they  do believe a national culture can be superior to others.    Many on fark for example.

It's PC for me to question those attacking her, sinceI'm part of the inferior cultures in her opinion, lol.
2014-01-05 11:45:57 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that only white people could be racist. Has the internet led me astray yet again?
2014-01-05 09:49:57 PM
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RexTalionis: As a Chinese person, I think she is full of shiat. And she and her ilk are why suicide rates among Asian kids are so high.


And Mormons.
2014-01-05 09:07:36 PM
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Chinese are one of the top dogs.
The other seven are Jewish, Indian, Iranian, Lebanese-Americans, Nigerians, Cuban exiles and Mormons.
Clearly one of these groupings is a religion and by calling them 'cultural', never ethnic, racial or religious, Chau and her husband seek to avoid the hugely controversial criticism this would bring.


Fair claim in my book.  Different cultures do things differently, some better than others.

When it comes to parenting, most kids I knew who came from the backgrounds she mentioned had crazy overbearing parents who pushed them too hard.  Not quite my idea of stellar parenting.  I'd probably come up with a different list.
To their credit though, the kids who didn't grow up with severe mental health issues are now all successful doctors/lawyers and respected members of their communities.  Social Darwinism in action I guess.
2014-01-05 08:42:14 PM
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A Chinese racist? That's like trying to accuse the Japanese for being racist.

Which, my mother's people are...
 
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