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(Daily Mail)   Tiger Mom, not having pissed off enough people with her first book, has written a new book about how some ethnic and religious groups are inherently better than others   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 204
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2014-01-06 12:14:09 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Peter von Nostrand: Tiger what? The golfer? Didn't he learn his lesson about pissing people off

No, this is Tiger's mom, or something. Writing a book about how to raise a pro-athlete, probably. Step 1) get knocked up by a black dude


styckx: Not kidding.. I don't know who this is.


This was her first book

Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother

A lot of you guys are doing exactly what you accuse Rush L et al of doing - making ad hominem attacks on someone when you haven't read the book; you've just reacted to a scrap of an article from a newspaper
 
2014-01-06 12:14:19 AM  
Who cares what some terrible driver has to say...
 
2014-01-06 12:14:38 AM  
Children are people, not vanity projects. If they learn nothing else, the one thing I sincerely hope my children learn from me is to not regret anything. There's no point in being alive if you can't be happy with yourself.
 
2014-01-06 12:15:14 AM  
The members of the groups she mentioned tend to be very insular and consider themselves better than others by way of membership in that group.

You know, self-righteous, bigoted, racist assholes.
 
2014-01-06 12:15:29 AM  

SirEattonHogg: Fair number of folks in Hong Kong believe in some variation of what Tiger Mom preaches even before Tiger Mom became known - both the locals and a good number of the foreign expats. I also have in-laws like this. The whole overriding desire for money, academic/career success, etc., at the expense of normal social/family relationships.

And such attitudes go hand in hand with racist attitude toward various other Asians and ethnicities.

It's really quite unpleasant to talk to such people.


Bingo.

The old school wealthy in HK are so materialistic is why their sense of "class" is so cheesy and gaudy and superficial, they're dreary to be around. It's difficult to find a grounded evenly keeled person that's not a drop-forged cog.
 
2014-01-06 12:16:10 AM  
Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.
 
2014-01-06 12:16:43 AM  

jake_lex: I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.


The mating call of the trust-fund generation.
 
2014-01-06 12:17:25 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: RexTalionis: As a Chinese person, I think she is full of shiat. And she and her ilk are why suicide rates among Asian kids are so high.

And Mormons.


"Impulse Control" is a huge plus according to this classist twit. You don't get repression better than the Mormons.

Remember: If you're stuck a free thinking woman with desires outside the kitchen, an athiest or a homosexual.....turn it off!
 
2014-01-06 12:18:34 AM  
If the Chinese culture breeds such success, then why is China such a shiathole?
 
2014-01-06 12:19:58 AM  
Their argument seems backward and racist to me.
For the Chinese, there's a tradition of scholarship that goes back thirteen hundred years. The way to get ahead was to be a scholar. (Of course, the children of scholars had an advantage.)
For Jews, the same tradition of scholarship applies. There's even a blessing we recite upon seeing an outstanding scholar. In addition, Jews were denied the ability to work in professions and even entire sectors of the economy for hundreds of years.
The British introduced a merit-based bureaucracy system in the nineteenth century. It was modeled on the Chinese civil service system and became an escape from the caste system.
Educated Persians who escaped the Islamic Revolution (and, before that, the repressive Iranian regime), from a culture where the difference between the written language of scholarship and the language of the streets makes them mutually incomprehensible? How is this much different from the Chinese culture?

Then, of course, there's this glaring hole in their argument: Statistically speaking, the best way to become a millionaire is to choose the right parents.
 
2014-01-06 12:20:11 AM  

bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.


So what you're saying is that some people are just better than others?

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2014-01-06 12:20:16 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Peter von Nostrand: Tiger what? The golfer? Didn't he learn his lesson about pissing people off

No, this is Tiger's mom, or something. Writing a book about how to raise a pro-athlete, probably. Step 1) get knocked up by a black dude


But a black pro golfer? That's about as likely as a black pro hockey player.
 
2014-01-06 12:20:58 AM  

mjjt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Peter von Nostrand: Tiger what? The golfer? Didn't he learn his lesson about pissing people off

No, this is Tiger's mom, or something. Writing a book about how to raise a pro-athlete, probably. Step 1) get knocked up by a black dude

styckx: Not kidding.. I don't know who this is.

This was her first book

Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother

A lot of you guys are doing exactly what you accuse Rush L et al of doing - making ad hominem attacks on someone when you haven't read the book; you've just reacted to a scrap of an article from a newspaper


Rush? That prog rock band from Canada?
 
2014-01-06 12:21:25 AM  
"Haw!  I tr0llz0z jo0!" #923845.  U give me munny nao!
 
2014-01-06 12:22:36 AM  
WTF is a "tiger mom"?

Never heard that term.
 
2014-01-06 12:23:02 AM  

ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.

So what you're saying is that some people are just better than others?

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Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?
 
2014-01-06 12:23:21 AM  
Uhh according to TFA, the focus is on culture not race.

Good job with the trolling there, subby!

I personally like diversity for it's own sake, because although we know genius when we see it after a lifetime of work, there is no predicting exactly where it will come from.
 
2014-01-06 12:24:04 AM  
Let's see who is missing here on her list of successful nationalities/religions ...

WASPs.

Irish.

Scandinavians.

French.

Italians.

Greeks.

Poles.

Russians.

Mexicans.

Vietnamese.

Koreans.

Japanese.

Christians.

Muslims.

...

(list goes on)

Yeah, Tiger Mom bit off more than she could chew.
 
2014-01-06 12:24:13 AM  

jmr61: WTF is a "tiger mom"?

Never heard that term.


I think it's Tiger Balm for women, or something
 
2014-01-06 12:24:37 AM  
Frankly, I'd rather have happy and contented kids than rich and successful ones.
 
2014-01-06 12:25:09 AM  

bingo the psych-o: ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.

So what you're saying is that some people are just better than others?

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Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?


Hmmm.... that doesn't read right.  What I meant to ask is is there no one that you can think of that isn't as good a person as yourself?  It's probably safe to say that you are a better person than (your stupid GIF of) Hitler.
 
2014-01-06 12:25:37 AM  

bingo the psych-o: Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?


Heck I can think of entire populations that are worse off then I....oops....that's what got everyone so pissed off isn't it.
 
2014-01-06 12:25:47 AM  
FTA: Straying into controversial territory, Chau and her husband say that African-Americans don't make the list because the Civil Rights Movement destroyed their chance of any superiority.
'In this paradoxical sense, equality isn't fair to African-Americans,' they write.


Well if this book flops, at least Chua can get a role on Duck Dynasty
 
2014-01-06 12:26:12 AM  

jmr61: WTF is a "tiger mom"?

Never heard that term.


www.jokideo.com
 
2014-01-06 12:27:00 AM  

jmr61: WTF is a "tiger mom"?

Never heard that term.


It's like Icy Hot. Make sure to keep it away from your balls.
 
2014-01-06 12:30:10 AM  

bingo the psych-o: ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.

So what you're saying is that some people are just better than others?

[gifs.gifbin.com image 112x184]

Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?


Well for starters you and this dumbass author. I just don't get how people like you never see how stupid and bigoted shiat like this is. Yeah some people are better than others on an individual basis but they don't start out that way and going any further than that is racist. So save your bullshiat for your sisterfarking buddies over at the derp republic.
 
2014-01-06 12:32:51 AM  
What the hell? Fark accusing a non-white person of being given racist. Has the whole world gone mad?
 
2014-01-06 12:32:56 AM  
From TFA: Straying into controversial territory, Chau and her husband say that African-Americans don't make the list because the Civil Rights Movement destroyed their chance of any superiority.

'In this paradoxical sense, equality isn't fair to African-Americans,' they write.

'Superiority is the one narrative that America has relentlessly denied or ground out of its black population.'



So if not for the Civil Rights Movement...we could've gotten in on this superiority thing too? Damn you Grandma and Grandpa! You should've just ignored Jim Crow and told all those white folks that we are the superior culture. That would've gone over well.
 
2014-01-06 12:33:51 AM  
AW acts like AW for the sole purpose of driving up sales for her "more advice I pulled outta my ass" book.
/Here's Tom with the weather
 
2014-01-06 12:39:20 AM  

jmr61: WTF is a "tiger mom"?

Never heard that term.


Google "Bodil Joensen".
 
2014-01-06 12:39:28 AM  

baconbeard: What the hell? Fark accusing a non-white person of being given racist. Has the whole world gone mad?


Because of the trolltastic fark headline.  If the headline had instead said that she wrote a book about how western whites are inferior to immigrants (which would be an equally accurate interpretation), fark would be licking her boots and asking for autographs.
 
2014-01-06 12:40:09 AM  
Tiger mom? Is that like the God lady from Wife Swap or something?
 
2014-01-06 12:41:32 AM  

wesmon: If the Chinese culture breeds such success, then why is China such a shiathole?


It's one thing to memorize tables and facts for an exam, but it's a whole different thing to come up with ideas of your own and implement them... That's why they're mass-producing products using our specifications and outright stealing our ideas to copy everything.
 
2014-01-06 12:42:04 AM  

hubiestubert: A Chinese racist? That's like trying to accuse the Japanese for being racist.

Which, my mother's people are...


Your mother's people accuse the Japanese of being racist?
 
2014-01-06 12:43:13 AM  

ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.

So what you're saying is that some people are just better than others?

[gifs.gifbin.com image 112x184]

Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?

Well for starters you and this dumbass author. I just don't get how people like you never see how stupid and bigoted shiat like this is. Yeah some people are better than others on an individual basis but they don't start out that way and going any further than that is racist. So save your bullshiat for your sisterfarking buddies over at the derp republic.


So, if I, a white person, believe that there are some aspects of Chinese culture that are better than corresponding aspects of white American culture, I am racist against white people?

Well, at least now I know why I hate myself.
 
2014-01-06 12:46:19 AM  

jtown: hubiestubert: A Chinese racist? That's like trying to accuse the Japanese for being racist.

Which, my mother's people are...

Your mother's people accuse the Japanese of being racist?


That whole Rape of Nanking thing might have had something to do with it.
 
2014-01-06 12:47:02 AM  

Practical_Draconian: Irish.


And why do you think they're missing?

wwwcdn.channel5.com
 
2014-01-06 12:47:21 AM  

stilted: ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: ScaryBottles: bingo the psych-o: Some religions are genuinely better than others.  Some cultures also have habits that lend themselves towards a successful lifestyle.

This doesn't mean she isn't bat-guano crazy.

So what you're saying is that some people are just better than others?

[gifs.gifbin.com image 112x184]

Some people are better than others, yes.  Can you think of no one that is worse off than yourself?

Well for starters you and this dumbass author. I just don't get how people like you never see how stupid and bigoted shiat like this is. Yeah some people are better than others on an individual basis but they don't start out that way and going any further than that is racist. So save your bullshiat for your sisterfarking buddies over at the derp republic.

So, if I, a white person, believe that there are some aspects of Chinese culture that are better than corresponding aspects of white American culture, I am racist against white people?

Well, at least now I know why I hate myself.


vivianpaige.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-06 12:50:27 AM  
Just because it's racist, doesn't mean it isn't true. Sorry, I know that's a hard one to swallow.
 
2014-01-06 12:51:59 AM  

dbirchall: Can we at least agree that some groups of people are WORSE, though? I'm thinking of cross-burning trailer trash meth heads who are Christian in name only, for a start.


If you include their cultural equivalent "kill anyone who dares criticize us" strap on the bomb fundamentalist Muslim, I'm in full agreement.
 
2014-01-06 12:53:17 AM  

kazikian: Just because it's racist, doesn't mean it isn't true. Sorry, I know that's a hard one to swallow.


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2014-01-06 12:54:40 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: mjjt: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Peter von Nostrand: Tiger what? The golfer? Didn't he learn his lesson about pissing people off

No, this is Tiger's mom, or something. Writing a book about how to raise a pro-athlete, probably. Step 1) get knocked up by a black dude

styckx: Not kidding.. I don't know who this is.

This was her first book

Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother

A lot of you guys are doing exactly what you accuse Rush L et al of doing - making ad hominem attacks on someone when you haven't read the book; you've just reacted to a scrap of an article from a newspaper

Rush? That prog rock band from Canada?


Har har don't give me yr White Zone shiat, we all know what you're talking about

i43.tinypic.com
 
2014-01-06 12:55:06 AM  
I didn't read her first book, and fully intend not to read this one either.
 
2014-01-06 12:57:43 AM  

Badgers: wesmon: If the Chinese culture breeds such success, then why is China such a shiathole?

It's one thing to memorize tables and facts for an exam, but it's a whole different thing to come up with ideas of your own and implement them... That's why they're mass-producing products using our specifications and outright stealing our ideas to copy everything.


The real answer is two parts:

1. China hasn't always been a shiathole. It is very old and China has produced great things over its history
2. Communism is a biatch
 
2014-01-06 12:57:43 AM  

farkingismybusiness: Tiger, tiger, burning bright
With the racists of the night,
What immoral hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful bigotry?


EXCELLENT!
 
2014-01-06 01:02:00 AM  
Sorry, but I work with a couple of Mormons. She's got that one dead wrong.
 
2014-01-06 01:02:44 AM  
And who runs all the big corporations in the USA?

Wanker mom is wanking.
 
2014-01-06 01:04:54 AM  

hardinparamedic: The fact that people like this woman are famous and are also given a soap box on which to promote their tripe is proof that there is no God.


B*tch doesn't even have an epic beard!
 
2014-01-06 01:07:42 AM  

jake_lex: I love that she lists having a sense of superiority as one of the things that makes these groups successful.  Because we all know that one ethnic group feeling superior to others always works out so well for everyone.


Actually, in this case she may have a point--if you survive the massive mental health issues that come with feeling that you are both better  and worse than everyone else (in various ways--believing you have to live up to an impossible ideal, having imposter syndrome, etc.)  can actually make you a serious overachiever, in much the same way that locking children in death cages without enough food will produce the ultimate warriors: Messily, painfully, and sometimes explosively.

/Seriously, there's a reason we don't do this shiat.
 
2014-01-06 01:18:32 AM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: baconbeard: What the hell? Fark accusing a non-white person of being given racist. Has the whole world gone mad?

Because of the trolltastic fark headline.  If the headline had instead said that she wrote a book about how western whites are inferior to immigrants (which would be an equally accurate interpretation), fark would be licking her boots and asking for autographs.


Nope. Not of fan of asshats who emigrate to the United States where there's actual civil liberities who then trash Western society. You know...where you're not going to be stoned to death in the streets for pissing off the local mullah, sexually assaulted with a metal bar while the cops do nothing, or run over with a tank for protesting the government.
 
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