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2014-01-05 09:22:51 PM

scroufus: itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: Bit'O'Gristle: How about buying it in CA, then sticking it in your glovebox in a sealed box, and don't speed, don't farking smoke it and drive, and obey the posted speed limits and traffic laws, therefore, not getting pulled over in the first place. But, there is always some douchebag who buys 12 lbs of it, and drives home at 120 mph, therefore guaranteeing that they get arrested.

That only works if you are white.   I was pulled over in another state just for having out of state tags and  being brown for going 2 over after the cops where riding my bumper trying to make me speed.  I got  off the  highway cause I was getting freaked out about how close they were riding my car.  Soon as I hop back on the highway the speed limit magically changed and I get pulled over for going 2 over.   Only for them to tell me they are not traffic cops but narcotics cops.   This all happened back in 2004 after I had just got back from Baghdad on a deployment.    I let them search my whole car cause I really had nothing to hide.   After they were done searching they tried to apologize and I just laughed and said How many drug mules do you think got to go by cause of your racist practices.


I hate most cops.

People going exactly the speed limit are profiled as either drunk or drug mules depending on how much they are weaving, even white people. It's always best to keep up with traffic.

Ha you must be white.  Doesnt work that way I promise you that.


I didn't say it would prevent you from being stopped. I am white and I have been profiled as a drug mule, so being white doesn't work the way you think.
 
2014-01-05 09:24:34 PM

itcamefromschenectady: I didn't say it would prevent you from being stopped. I am white and I have been profiled as a drug mule, so being white doesn't work the way you think.


I was profiled as a mule once.  I think it had something to do with the hooves I was wearing.
 
2014-01-05 09:24:47 PM

itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: Bit'O'Gristle: How about buying it in CA, then sticking it in your glovebox in a sealed box, and don't speed, don't farking smoke it and drive, and obey the posted speed limits and traffic laws, therefore, not getting pulled over in the first place. But, there is always some douchebag who buys 12 lbs of it, and drives home at 120 mph, therefore guaranteeing that they get arrested.

That only works if you are white.   I was pulled over in another state just for having out of state tags and  being brown for going 2 over after the cops where riding my bumper trying to make me speed.  I got  off the  highway cause I was getting freaked out about how close they were riding my car.  Soon as I hop back on the highway the speed limit magically changed and I get pulled over for going 2 over.   Only for them to tell me they are not traffic cops but narcotics cops.   This all happened back in 2004 after I had just got back from Baghdad on a deployment.    I let them search my whole car cause I really had nothing to hide.   After they were done searching they tried to apologize and I just laughed and said How many drug mules do you think got to go by cause of your racist practices.


I hate most cops.

People going exactly the speed limit are profiled as either drunk or drug mules depending on how much they are weaving, even white people. It's always best to keep up with traffic.

Ha you must be white.  Doesnt work that way I promise you that.

I didn't say it would prevent you from being stopped. I am white and I have been profiled as a drug mule, so being white doesn't work the way you think.


No it does not. They play all kinds of games. Alot of places assume everyone is a mule. The south is the worst.
 
2014-01-05 09:25:16 PM

buckler: That seems odd. IIRC, when the Feds made state receipt of highway funds dependent on a 55/60 MPH speed limit, Wyoming followed the law, but made the standard penalty for speeding $5. People used to drive around with a five-dollar bill clipped to the driver's-side visor of the car to pay the cop directly. I don't know if that's still the same, but given the attitude of Wyoming, I find their attitude about pot puzzling.


You are mistaking Montana for Wyoming. Montana had a $5.00 Daylight speeding ticket and  $25.00 nighttime ticket, LONG since disbanded. Montana Highway Patrol is still pretty liberal with speeding. As long as you are safe, the roads are clear and your not being a dick, it is hard to get a ticket on the highways. If you start messing around when the weather is bad they will drop the hammer though.

Wyoming Highway Patrol doesn't play. It is not uncommon to see 5-6 WHP on I-80 between Cheyenne and Laramie or Rock Springs and the Utah border. They also have 4 Mobile inspection vehicles and will pull over any type of commercial vehicle for inspection even saw a Aarons rental Van pulled over once.. They carry portable scales and like to write tickets.

Anyone planning on living it up in CO then coming to Wyoming should be weary.
 
2014-01-05 09:26:23 PM
The Denver Post compiled a list of questions a few days ago:  The feds are not making busting Colorado a priority:

http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_24823785/colorado-marijuana-g ui de-64-answers-commonly-asked-questions


FTA:  An August Justice Department Memo tells federal prosecutors not to make it a priority to block marijuana-legalization laws or shut down marijuana stores abiding by state laws and regulations, as long as those rules are robust.
 
2014-01-05 09:28:16 PM

bkisfancy: To be fair Wyoming's economy is largely based off of meth.


Came to say this...
 
2014-01-05 09:29:28 PM

madgordy: I don't know about the quality of hookers in Wyoming but last time I drove through every mini mart I stopped at had a mini casino attached to it.  booze gambling and gas.   near the Colorado border, fireworks.

no doubt the police are more concerned about out of state competition for their domestic crop.



You must have been one stoned mofo.. Wyoming has 2 Casinos and they are on the Indian reservation in the center of the state. Montana maybe?
 
2014-01-05 09:33:10 PM

Prodigy AK: madgordy: I don't know about the quality of hookers in Wyoming but last time I drove through every mini mart I stopped at had a mini casino attached to it.  booze gambling and gas.   near the Colorado border, fireworks.

no doubt the police are more concerned about out of state competition for their domestic crop.


You must have been one stoned mofo.. Wyoming has 2 Casinos and they are on the Indian reservation in the center of the state. Montana maybe?


My friends of mine used to joke. We where going to build a Mini Mall in Wy. Liquor store, Adult Book Store, Strip Club, Gun Store, Fireworks Store, Message Parlor, Restaurant,Smoke shop  and truck stop. We would make millions.
 
2014-01-05 09:33:29 PM

scroufus: scroufus: itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: Bit'O'Gristle: How about buying it in CA, then sticking it in your glovebox in a sealed box, and don't speed, don't farking smoke it and drive, and obey the posted speed limits and traffic laws, therefore, not getting pulled over in the first place. But, there is always some douchebag who buys 12 lbs of it, and drives home at 120 mph, therefore guaranteeing that they get arrested.

That only works if you are white.   I was pulled over in another state just for having out of state tags and  being brown for going 2 over after the cops where riding my bumper trying to make me speed.  I got  off the  highway cause I was getting freaked out about how close they were riding my car.  Soon as I hop back on the highway the speed limit magically changed and I get pulled over for going 2 over.   Only for them to tell me they are not traffic cops but narcotics cops.   This all happened back in 2004 after I had just got back from Baghdad on a deployment.    I let them search my whole car cause I really had nothing to hide.   After they were done searching they tried to apologize and I just laughed and said How many drug mules do you think got to go by cause of your racist practices.


I hate most cops.

People going exactly the speed limit are profiled as either drunk or drug mules depending on how much they are weaving, even white people. It's always best to keep up with traffic.

Ha you must be white.  Doesnt work that way I promise you that.

also I wasnt weaving and there was no traffic to keep up with.  I was profiled for being brown with Texas tags.


I didn't mean to imply "follow this rule and you won't get pulled over". I just meant that going the speed limit is usually suspicious behavior, independent of anything else.
 
2014-01-05 09:33:36 PM

Prodigy AK: buckler: That seems odd. IIRC, when the Feds made state receipt of highway funds dependent on a 55/60 MPH speed limit, Wyoming followed the law, but made the standard penalty for speeding $5. People used to drive around with a five-dollar bill clipped to the driver's-side visor of the car to pay the cop directly. I don't know if that's still the same, but given the attitude of Wyoming, I find their attitude about pot puzzling.

You are mistaking Montana for Wyoming. Montana had a $5.00 Daylight speeding ticket and  $25.00 nighttime ticket, LONG since disbanded. Montana Highway Patrol is still pretty liberal with speeding. As long as you are safe, the roads are clear and your not being a dick, it is hard to get a ticket on the highways. If you start messing around when the weather is bad they will drop the hammer though.

Wyoming Highway Patrol doesn't play. It is not uncommon to see 5-6 WHP on I-80 between Cheyenne and Laramie or Rock Springs and the Utah border. They also have 4 Mobile inspection vehicles and will pull over any type of commercial vehicle for inspection even saw a Aarons rental Van pulled over once.. They carry portable scales and like to write tickets.

Anyone planning on living it up in CO then coming to Wyoming should be weary.


Dammit, you're right. My brain seems to have turned to Swiss cheese of late. Apologies, and thanks for the correction.
 
2014-01-05 09:36:19 PM

itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: scroufus: itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: Bit'O'Gristle: How about buying it in CA, then sticking it in your glovebox in a sealed box, and don't speed, don't farking smoke it and drive, and obey the posted speed limits and traffic laws, therefore, not getting pulled over in the first place. But, there is always some douchebag who buys 12 lbs of it, and drives home at 120 mph, therefore guaranteeing that they get arrested.

That only works if you are white.   I was pulled over in another state just for having out of state tags and  being brown for going 2 over after the cops where riding my bumper trying to make me speed.  I got  off the  highway cause I was getting freaked out about how close they were riding my car.  Soon as I hop back on the highway the speed limit magically changed and I get pulled over for going 2 over.   Only for them to tell me they are not traffic cops but narcotics cops.   This all happened back in 2004 after I had just got back from Baghdad on a deployment.    I let them search my whole car cause I really had nothing to hide.   After they were done searching they tried to apologize and I just laughed and said How many drug mules do you think got to go by cause of your racist practices.


I hate most cops.

People going exactly the speed limit are profiled as either drunk or drug mules depending on how much they are weaving, even white people. It's always best to keep up with traffic.

Ha you must be white.  Doesnt work that way I promise you that.

also I wasnt weaving and there was no traffic to keep up with.  I was profiled for being brown with Texas tags.

I didn't mean to imply "follow this rule and you won't get pulled over". I just meant that going the speed limit is usually suspicious behavior, independent of anything else.


It is. Go with flow of traffic. And dont look around. Here the 70 goes from Utah to Chicago. Also known as the cocaine highway. They drive up the 15 from Mexico and turn east on the 70. Alot of times there is something else wrong. Broken tail light that kind of crap. Cops are good at spotting people trying to fit in.
 
2014-01-05 09:38:28 PM
I do think its funny that they had to run news reports reminding people that they can not take pot on planes. And that its only legal in Co. I love how stupid people are.
 
2014-01-05 09:40:44 PM

mbillips: Yeah, those dang Colorado legal weed dealers are gonna wind up corrupting Wyoming's citizens, who have NEVER HAD ACCESS to pot ever before. Ever.


Cheyenne is a Meth Town.  They have no interest in spending money on medical grade herb.
 
2014-01-05 09:41:50 PM
I've heard that Kansas has highway checks, but there are signs before you take an exit that tell you there's a checkpoint ahead. They'll only catch the real idiots and meth amateurs. I'm not sure about Wyoming, but I doubt it's any more brilliant of a plan.
 
2014-01-05 09:41:52 PM

italie: Kit Fister: italie: ShivaHVishnu: Just for your information, the wind doesn't really blow in Wyoming.  Colorado sucks.

I used to hate the days in Colorado when a southerly wind would kick up, and most of the front range smelled of Wyoming.

Consider the northerly winds payback for years of cow-stench.

Personally I loved the smell of the outdoors, from livestock to prairie grass. But, don't move to cattle country and expect it not to smell like cows.

Could have been worse, though, it could've been sheep.

I get that, but at the same time I wouldn't exactly expect Denver to be "cattle country" anymore.

// As for the sheep, you never know. It ~is~ Wyoming....


Shrugs, is what it is. I find complaining about nature intruding on your lifestyle to be sad in a way. You get used to it.
 
2014-01-05 09:43:53 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Bit'O'Gristle: How about buying it in CA, then sticking it in your glovebox in a sealed box, and don't speed, don't farking smoke it and drive, and obey the posted speed limits and traffic laws

Pretty much it.  Bring a glass jar.  Seal it inside, wash off the outside (residual stuff from your hands).  Put it out of sight, or better yet, at the bottom of a cooler buried in ice, water and pop.  Then sit in the right lane with your cruise control set at the speed limit and wait until you get 2 states away before even thinking about it.  Remember, you're only driving home and you don't have anything, so don't be acting stupid or suspicious when the state patrol drives by.  Just let your cruise control do it's job.


If the car has an ashtray it should be open and loaded with wrapped mints.  In the trunk there will be boxed replacement lamps for every external light on the car (and instructions/tools necessary to immediately replace all of them).  License/title/proof of insurance clipped together and within easy reach (not in glove compartment).  If stopped after dark: 1. pull over 2. turn on interior light 3.keep hands in easily visualized - by cop - positions (this expression of `concern' for the cop's safety is, 90% of the time, appreciated and the kindness reciprocated) 4. Be polite, always check name tag and always address as `officer XXX'.

If one is incapable of an `infractionless insertion' then, thanks! Love driving past and snapping a pic.  If stopped on a `troll' then all the above will see you to your destination unfettered.  Big load?  Travel trailer with a functioning freezer - verifiable `legend' & a sacrificial `front door'.

/Colorado entrepreneurs ought to be selling `chi-chi-chi- chiba pets' to those Wyo cowboys (little sheep would do).  "It's supposed to sprout grass for the cats, officer...'
 
2014-01-05 09:45:44 PM

Nightjars: itcamefromschenectady: I didn't say it would prevent you from being stopped. I am white and I have been profiled as a drug mule, so being white doesn't work the way you think.

I was profiled as a mule once.  I think it had something to do with the hooves I was wearing.


I was told that the entire state of Nevada was where "drugs come from". Apparently there's no other reason for someone to drive from there to New York other than to be a drug courier.

One time a cop started tailgating me, so I sped up, then realized it was a cop, so I slowed down, and then I realized I missed my turn so I pulled over to turn around. He pulled in beside me, flipped on his lights and demanded to know why I was "driving erratically".
 
2014-01-05 09:49:07 PM

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Oh look, the nice man brought the white woman some flowers.
 
2014-01-05 09:56:04 PM

BeatrixK: The Denver Post compiled a list of questions a few days ago:  The feds are not making busting Colorado a priority:


As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the new Colorado laws to keep state or local authorities from prosecuting under Federal law.

A joint that's legal under Colorado law gets you a minimum year under Federal law, a few plants in the basement will get you five.

Seems that telling people it's ok to smoke in Colorado is setting them up to get totally screwed when an Officer decides to arrest someone under Federal statutes instead of state.
 
2014-01-05 09:59:59 PM

fnordfocus: BeatrixK: The Denver Post compiled a list of questions a few days ago:  The feds are not making busting Colorado a priority:

As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the new Colorado laws to keep state or local authorities from prosecuting under Federal law.

A joint that's legal under Colorado law gets you a minimum year under Federal law, a few plants in the basement will get you five.

Seems that telling people it's ok to smoke in Colorado is setting them up to get totally screwed when an Officer decides to arrest someone under Federal statutes instead of state.


Do municipal or state officers have the ability to make arrests under federal laws? Pretty sure they don't. Even if they do, you'll be tried in a federal court.
 
2014-01-05 10:10:47 PM

Kit Fister: I find complaining about nature intruding on your lifestyle to be sad in a way. You get used to it.


thumb.kweeper.com
 
2014-01-05 10:11:27 PM

martid4: I think the worst thing I did driving stoned was sit through the same red light 3 times.  I think I was eating Oreos.


Since living in pot central, I've become far less worried about driving on pot than on alcohol. High drivers are damned annoying because they drive so slow, but that also means they cause few problems beyond mere annoyance.
 
2014-01-05 10:15:58 PM
Glendo, WY is a very nice vacation area, thank you very much.
 
2014-01-05 10:16:09 PM

Skirl Hutsenreiter: martid4: I think the worst thing I did driving stoned was sit through the same red light 3 times.  I think I was eating Oreos.

Since living in pot central, I've become far less worried about driving on pot than on alcohol. High drivers are damned annoying because they drive so slow, but that also means they cause few problems beyond mere annoyance.


Many many years ago a friend told me how he was high driving home. He was listening to a local classic rock station. They played Knights in White Satin. Everything was cool. But they played the long version. He said he thought he was majorly tripping pulled into a super market parking and walked around the grocery store for like 2 hours. Looking back he said it was one of the dumbest things he ever did. The poem at the end of the song really freaked him out.  Oh and he never drove high again. He said he learned his lesson.
 
2014-01-05 10:16:26 PM
I wish people from Wyoming would stop moving to Colorado.  They suck.
 
2014-01-05 10:18:05 PM

tdyak: Glendo, WY is a very nice vacation area, thank you very much.


I just went to Wy and it was very nice. Drove to Jackson Hole and Yellowstone before the government closed it.
 
2014-01-05 10:18:23 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Tom_Slick: ArcadianRefugee: Tom_Slick: BeatrixK: I just hope, in about 6 months, Colorado tax folk stand at the CO/WY border with their giant bags o'cash and go all 'BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA'

They better enjoy it while they can, the IRS will come in and shut the dispensaries down in a year.  That seems to be the Feds way of dealing with this situation.

/The IRS is scarier and more cuttthroat than the FBI

So long as they pay their taxes, what complaint does the IRS have?

Since it is not a "legal" business in the eyes of the Feds and the IRS, they make it damn near impossible to pay taxes.  They have taken down many medical dispensaries this way.  A business owner will file their taxes just like they would for a coffee shop for example, then the IRS would come back and disallow their return and slap them with huge fines.

From the official IRS tax instructions: "Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Form 1040, line 21, or on Schedule C or Schedule C-EZ (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity."

Link.

"If you tell the IRS you made $1 million from stealing money or dealing drugs, does the agency tip off the cops? Legally, it can't, unless a law-enforcement agency gets a court order granting it access to a specific taxpayer's return. The IRS isn't supposed to proactively alert other agencies about misdeeds unless terrorism is involved. In that case, it still needs a court order to disclose anything, but the IRS can initiate the legal process on its own."


As I understand it, the difficulty is write-offs.

Normally you pay income tax on your earnings minus allowable expenses like salaries, rent, and supplies. But the IRS does not acknowledge any allowable expenses for illegal activities, so these businesses are supposed to pay taxes as if all their earnings were income.

But professional gamblers get to write off their losses.
 
2014-01-05 10:25:03 PM
redmid17:Do municipal or state officers have the ability to make arrests under federal laws? Pretty sure they don't. Even if they do, you'll be tried in a federal court.

I'm not a lawyer, but as an example Sheriff Joe arrests plenty of people for Federal immigration violations.

And this article shows local police in MA operating under Federal law.

As to Federal courts, that's sort of the point -- an incredibly high conviction rate and long mandatory minimums.
 
2014-01-05 10:27:53 PM

itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: itcamefromschenectady: scroufus: Bit'O'Gristle: How about buying it in CA, then sticking it in your glovebox in a sealed box, and don't speed, don't farking smoke it and drive, and obey the posted speed limits and traffic laws, therefore, not getting pulled over in the first place. But, there is always some douchebag who buys 12 lbs of it, and drives home at 120 mph, therefore guaranteeing that they get arrested.

That only works if you are white.   I was pulled over in another state just for having out of state tags and  being brown for going 2 over after the cops where riding my bumper trying to make me speed.  I got  off the  highway cause I was getting freaked out about how close they were riding my car.  Soon as I hop back on the highway the speed limit magically changed and I get pulled over for going 2 over.   Only for them to tell me they are not traffic cops but narcotics cops.   This all happened back in 2004 after I had just got back from Baghdad on a deployment.    I let them search my whole car cause I really had nothing to hide.   After they were done searching they tried to apologize and I just laughed and said How many drug mules do you think got to go by cause of your racist practices.


I hate most cops.

People going exactly the speed limit are profiled as either drunk or drug mules depending on how much they are weaving, even white people. It's always best to keep up with traffic.

Ha you must be white.  Doesnt work that way I promise you that.

I didn't say it would prevent you from being stopped. I am white and I have been profiled as a drug mule, so being white doesn't work the way you think.


Very true - if you're driving anything out of place you'll be the first one pulled over. My husband kept his old k-car until he got tired of it and he's the whitest Boy Scout ever.

A white truck in Texas, a green Subaru in Colorado - doesn't matter your color, you'll get pulled over less often if you're fitting in.
 
2014-01-05 10:28:20 PM

Capo Del Bandito: I wasn't aware Wyoming had a population. Never even *heard* of anyone from there.

Until now I figured Wyoming was just 'undeclared' land in the US and they slapped a name on it.

Did they import hookers and blackjack to make the place appealing to potential residents?


You're thinking of Nevada.
 
2014-01-05 10:45:21 PM

FarkleMatter: I wish people from Wyoming would stop moving to Colorado.  They suck.


And now you'll have the added bonus of people from Wyoming coming to Colorado, getting stoned, and forgetting how to get home.
 
2014-01-05 10:58:17 PM
Meanwhile, Colorado stoners: DON'T SEND COLORADO MARIJUANA TO WYOMING! We could have a shortage, man.
 
2014-01-05 11:02:58 PM

martid4: Your Hind Brain:
Sorry, too many marijuanas. How many marijuanas are there in an ounce anyways?

An ounce is about 2 joints if you're the cop turning over to evidence.  Or maybe just a joint if he's carrying multiple boxes of donuts.


1/8 oz. will get you about 10 joints unless you're Cheech or Chong.

/pot ignorance is pretty humorus
 
2014-01-05 11:03:16 PM

fnordfocus: redmid17:Do municipal or state officers have the ability to make arrests under federal laws? Pretty sure they don't. Even if they do, you'll be tried in a federal court.

I'm not a lawyer, but as an example Sheriff Joe arrests plenty of people for Federal immigration violations.

And this article shows local police in MA operating under Federal law.

As to Federal courts, that's sort of the point -- an incredibly high conviction rate and long mandatory minimums.


State law enforcement can enforce federal laws, but it has to be allowed by both state and federal law. Either one can forbid it. In this case, we have state law prohibiting state LEOs from enforcing certain federal laws. In the Arizona SB-1070 case, we had the state attempting to enforce federal law without federal permission, which isn't allowed either. Though for most federal crimes such state-level enforcement is allowed.
 
2014-01-05 11:13:52 PM
I plan to go to both states in the next few years and will not smoke anything in either state.  I won't tell my co-workers when I go either since I want to avoid the stupid questions.
 
2014-01-05 11:16:09 PM

redmid17: ArcadianRefugee: Jument: Somacandra: Has the dispensary and private smoking lounge just outside Wyoming on I-25 gone up yet?

Brilliant plan. People from Wyoming can drive there, park, go inside and get high, and then drive home and get busted for DUI.

That is, however, what they do.

I spent a night in Cadiz, Ind. a went to the local mini-mart to get beer; turned out, it was a "dry" county. Asked where to get beer and the woman gave me directions to the county line.

Soon as you crossed the county line, it was bar, "we sell beer", "we sell beer", bar, and liquor store.

Cadiz, Indiana? There are no dry counties in Indiana. Haven't been any since prohibition.


OK, maybe not Ind.? I cold swear it was Cadiz, though (name only sticks out as I was in a role-playing game* at the time and we'd just arrived in Cadiz, Spain). Can't think of where else I could have driven through (Roanoke, Va to Carbondale, Ill.). This was back in ... '99?

* nerd
 
2014-01-05 11:24:55 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Can't think of where else I could have driven through (Roanoke, Va to Carbondale, Ill.). This was back in ... '99?


Probably Kentucky, but could have been somewhere in Virginia, too. Dry counties are, with a few marginal exceptions, pretty much a Southern thing (plus Kansas).

foolocracy.com
 
2014-01-05 11:31:00 PM

Churchill2004: ArcadianRefugee: Can't think of where else I could have driven through (Roanoke, Va to Carbondale, Ill.). This was back in ... '99?

Probably Kentucky, but could have been somewhere in Virginia, too. Dry counties are, with a few marginal exceptions, pretty much a Southern thing (plus Kansas).

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There can be dry cities or even precincts within a city (Chicago itself has dry precincts).

I was also surprised few or none of those counties are in Tennessee. Do they only have dry cities?
 
2014-01-05 11:33:20 PM

kombi: Prodigy AK: madgordy: I don't know about the quality of hookers in Wyoming but last time I drove through every mini mart I stopped at had a mini casino attached to it.  booze gambling and gas.   near the Colorado border, fireworks.

no doubt the police are more concerned about out of state competition for their domestic crop.


You must have been one stoned mofo.. Wyoming has 2 Casinos and they are on the Indian reservation in the center of the state. Montana maybe?

My friends of mine used to joke. We where going to build a Mini Mall in Wy. Liquor store, Adult Book Store, Strip Club, Gun Store, Fireworks Store, Message Parlor, Restaurant,Smoke shop  and truck stop. We would make millions.


There is a turn off in both Cheyenne and Evanston WY that have almost all of that with "Large Vehicle Parking"

Cheyenne - 3 truck stops. 1 bar and plenty of fireworks, i think there may be a Strip join close to it as well. They capture a lot of the NE and CO people

Evanston - 1 Truck Stop, Tons of Fireworks and Liquor Stores, Smoke Shop as well, across the street is an adult store and bars. I don't think they have a strip club but I am old and married.. They get all of the Utah people.
 
2014-01-05 11:36:03 PM

Fubegra: Churchill2004: ArcadianRefugee: Can't think of where else I could have driven through (Roanoke, Va to Carbondale, Ill.). This was back in ... '99?

Probably Kentucky, but could have been somewhere in Virginia, too. Dry counties are, with a few marginal exceptions, pretty much a Southern thing (plus Kansas).

[foolocracy.com image 470x326]

There can be dry cities or even precincts within a city (Chicago itself has dry precincts).

I was also surprised few or none of those counties are in Tennessee. Do they only have dry cities?


Huh, that map appears to be in error. Here's the Wikipedia article map, which I presume is more up to date. Famously Lynchburg, TN, home of Jack Daniel's, is in a dry county.

upload.wikimedia.org

The yellow ones on this map are mixed, so mostly wet counties that have dry municipalities within them, particularly in a few Northern states that allow cities or precincts to go dry but not entire counties.
 
2014-01-05 11:44:30 PM

Churchill2004: Fubegra: Churchill2004: ArcadianRefugee: Can't think of where else I could have driven through (Roanoke, Va to Carbondale, Ill.). This was back in ... '99?

Probably Kentucky, but could have been somewhere in Virginia, too. Dry counties are, with a few marginal exceptions, pretty much a Southern thing (plus Kansas).

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There can be dry cities or even precincts within a city (Chicago itself has dry precincts).

I was also surprised few or none of those counties are in Tennessee. Do they only have dry cities?

Huh, that map appears to be in error. Here's the Wikipedia article map, which I presume is more up to date. Famously Lynchburg, TN, home of Jack Daniel's, is in a dry county.

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The yellow ones on this map are mixed, so mostly wet counties that have dry municipalities within them, particularly in a few Northern states that allow cities or precincts to go dry but not entire counties.


Technically Lynchburg Tn is not a dry county. Its some strange rule. They allow JD to sell product in there gift shop On like 2 shelf. Something crazy like that. And it took JD years to get that thru.
 
2014-01-05 11:46:15 PM

Prodigy AK: kombi: Prodigy AK: madgordy: I don't know about the quality of hookers in Wyoming but last time I drove through every mini mart I stopped at had a mini casino attached to it.  booze gambling and gas.   near the Colorado border, fireworks.

no doubt the police are more concerned about out of state competition for their domestic crop.


You must have been one stoned mofo.. Wyoming has 2 Casinos and they are on the Indian reservation in the center of the state. Montana maybe?

My friends of mine used to joke. We where going to build a Mini Mall in Wy. Liquor store, Adult Book Store, Strip Club, Gun Store, Fireworks Store, Message Parlor, Restaurant,Smoke shop  and truck stop. We would make millions.

There is a turn off in both Cheyenne and Evanston WY that have almost all of that with "Large Vehicle Parking"

Cheyenne - 3 truck stops. 1 bar and plenty of fireworks, i think there may be a Strip join close to it as well. They capture a lot of the NE and CO people

Evanston - 1 Truck Stop, Tons of Fireworks and Liquor Stores, Smoke Shop as well, across the street is an adult store and bars. I don't think they have a strip club but I am old and married.. They get all of the Utah people.


Ya but we wanted to put one on a major highway outside of town. Like an oasis
 
2014-01-05 11:48:40 PM

madgordy: I don't know about the quality of hookers in Wyoming but last time I drove through every mini mart I stopped at had a mini casino attached to it.  booze gambling and gas.   near the Colorado border, fireworks.


For top dollar, you'll want to look for one with no more than a C-section scar and a forearm cast.
 
2014-01-05 11:49:13 PM

itcamefromschenectady: I didn't mean to imply "follow this rule and you won't get pulled over". I just meant that going the speed limit is usually suspicious behavior, independent of anything else.


Got pulled over once because I was slowing down at a yellow flashing light. I was wearing my Druid robes from an earlier ceremony and the cop was convinced I was drunk. Hadn't had a drop--I was a bit tired but also cognizant that other people coming to the intersection might be drinking. Had to explain I was coming from a ceremony at a New Age sweatlodge type environment nearby. He let me go but kept begging me to tell him I'd had something to drink saying "C'mon...you can tell me."

Asshole.
 
2014-01-05 11:51:16 PM

kombi: Technically Lynchburg Tn is not a dry county.


Only because it's technically not in a county at all, sort of. "Moore County" and "the City of Lynchburg" are consolidated under a single government exercising the powers of both, and the whole jurisdiction, whatever you want to call it, is in fact dry. The exemption carved out for the distillery is only for "commemorative" bottles.
 
2014-01-05 11:51:23 PM

ArcadianRefugee: redmid17: ArcadianRefugee: Jument: Somacandra: Has the dispensary and private smoking lounge just outside Wyoming on I-25 gone up yet?

Brilliant plan. People from Wyoming can drive there, park, go inside and get high, and then drive home and get busted for DUI.

That is, however, what they do.

I spent a night in Cadiz, Ind. a went to the local mini-mart to get beer; turned out, it was a "dry" county. Asked where to get beer and the woman gave me directions to the county line.

Soon as you crossed the county line, it was bar, "we sell beer", "we sell beer", bar, and liquor store.

Cadiz, Indiana? There are no dry counties in Indiana. Haven't been any since prohibition.

OK, maybe not Ind.? I cold swear it was Cadiz, though (name only sticks out as I was in a role-playing game* at the time and we'd just arrived in Cadiz, Spain). Can't think of where else I could have driven through (Roanoke, Va to Carbondale, Ill.). This was back in ... '99?

* nerd


I mean Cadiz is a tiny town in Indiana. I think it has a few hundred people. And to think of it, I guess a town could go dry if they wanted to. Indiana state law won't let them go entirely dry but the city/county control the liquor licenses. Not entirely unfeasible to think the town itself was dry. I doubt an entire county would do it. Too much tax revenue to give up.
 
2014-01-05 11:53:57 PM

kombi: Prodigy AK: kombi: Prodigy AK: madgordy: I don't know about the quality of hookers in Wyoming but last time I drove through every mini mart I stopped at had a mini casino attached to it.  booze gambling and gas.   near the Colorado border, fireworks.

no doubt the police are more concerned about out of state competition for their domestic crop.


You must have been one stoned mofo.. Wyoming has 2 Casinos and they are on the Indian reservation in the center of the state. Montana maybe?

My friends of mine used to joke. We where going to build a Mini Mall in Wy. Liquor store, Adult Book Store, Strip Club, Gun Store, Fireworks Store, Message Parlor, Restaurant,Smoke shop  and truck stop. We would make millions.

There is a turn off in both Cheyenne and Evanston WY that have almost all of that with "Large Vehicle Parking"

Cheyenne - 3 truck stops. 1 bar and plenty of fireworks, i think there may be a Strip join close to it as well. They capture a lot of the NE and CO people

Evanston - 1 Truck Stop, Tons of Fireworks and Liquor Stores, Smoke Shop as well, across the street is an adult store and bars. I don't think they have a strip club but I am old and married.. They get all of the Utah people.

Ya but we wanted to put one on a major highway outside of town. Like an oasis


Oh I forgot. We are all Diesel Mechanics. So the point was we would have everything we need in one complex.
 
2014-01-05 11:54:56 PM

Danger Avoid Death: FarkleMatter: I wish people from Wyoming would stop moving to Colorado.  They suck.

And now you'll have the added bonus of people from Wyoming coming to Colorado, getting stoned, and forgetting how to get home.


Make you a deal... You stay the hell down there and we will stay the hell up here..

Q: Do you know how to tell when it is spring in Wyoming? A: All the license plates turn green.
 
2014-01-06 12:04:27 AM

Prodigy AK: Danger Avoid Death: FarkleMatter: I wish people from Wyoming would stop moving to Colorado.  They suck.

And now you'll have the added bonus of people from Wyoming coming to Colorado, getting stoned, and forgetting how to get home.

Make you a deal... You stay the hell down there and we will stay the hell up here..

Q: Do you know how to tell when it is spring in Wyoming? A: All the license plates turn green.


Um, you're in Alaska and I'm in California. Why are we arguing?
 
2014-01-06 12:17:15 AM

Danger Avoid Death: Prodigy AK: Danger Avoid Death: FarkleMatter: I wish people from Wyoming would stop moving to Colorado.  They suck.

And now you'll have the added bonus of people from Wyoming coming to Colorado, getting stoned, and forgetting how to get home.

Make you a deal... You stay the hell down there and we will stay the hell up here..

Q: Do you know how to tell when it is spring in Wyoming? A: All the license plates turn green.

Um, you're in Alaska and I'm in California. Why are we arguing?


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