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(io9)   So it turns out that organic food may be the cause of the recent rise in autism   (io9.com) divider line 114
    More: Obvious, organic products, autism, cognitive biases, Cory Doctorow, logical fallacy  
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2014-01-05 04:11:04 PM
So it is not too much beer that explains my forg...
 
2014-01-05 04:20:39 PM
"Hey, guys! Check out this thing we found on Reddit!"
 
2014-01-05 04:24:58 PM
The numbers don't lie
 
2014-01-05 04:31:30 PM
blog.lib.umn.edu
 
2014-01-05 04:33:26 PM
What effect will global warming have on food eaten by autistic pirates?
 
2014-01-05 04:36:55 PM
oblig:

31.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-01-05 04:36:56 PM
I ate an organic frozen pizza and then I couldn't stop counting toothpicks for like 3 days.
 
2014-01-05 04:37:19 PM
more likely that than the MMR vaccine.
 
2014-01-05 04:37:58 PM
ZOMG please spread this to the mommy blogs.

/ So they get off the antivax bandwagon
 
2014-01-05 04:38:02 PM
That's like blaming owls for how much I suck at analogies.
 
2014-01-05 04:38:38 PM
I heard sticking your dick in Jenny McCarthy makes you lose any ability to be funny.
 
2014-01-05 04:40:29 PM
How about science, the increase in mental healthcare and more educated professionals in teaching.  Lets add the pharmaceutical industry possibly redefining some margins.
 
2014-01-05 04:40:44 PM

jaytkay: ZOMG please spread this to the mommy blogs.

/ So they get off the antivax bandwagon


Mass emails and post it on Twitter and Facebook
 
2014-01-05 04:42:26 PM
This article is old but someone shared it with me today and I quite enjoyed it. The comments are lacking in the usual anti-vac derp that I find on articles such as these (aside from Meryl Dorey). Quite refreshing!
 
2014-01-05 04:43:27 PM

listernine: I heard sticking your dick in Jenny McCarthy makes you lose any ability to be funny.


I'd gladly make that trade

/not that funny, but I have a little dick - so it balances out
 
2014-01-05 04:44:05 PM
Aspartame in diet soda ingested during pregnancy causes autism. Thank you, Donald Rumsfeld.
 
2014-01-05 04:44:12 PM

Surool: oblig:


Thank you
 
2014-01-05 04:44:30 PM
It would be interesting to throw this up on a health conspiracy forum and watch how quickly those pseudoscience nutcases go all hard science and bleat how correlation doesn't equal causation...

www.oxonianreview.org
 
2014-01-05 04:45:18 PM

Shostie: "Hey, guys! Check out this thing we found on Reddit!"


Seriously.... I'm seeing more and more stuff that started on Reddit in the "News". It least it saves me from ever having to visit that site, but it's getting disturbing.
 
2014-01-05 04:46:52 PM

desertfool: Shostie: "Hey, guys! Check out this thing we found on Reddit!"

Seriously.... I'm seeing more and more stuff that started on Reddit in the "News". It least it saves me from ever having to visit that site, but it's getting disturbing.


le sigh.
 
2014-01-05 04:47:43 PM

Kevin72: Aspartame in diet soda ingested during pregnancy causes autism. Thank you, Donald Rumsfeld.


I hate diet soda. Never drink it ever. Neither of my daughters is autistic, so it must be true!
 
2014-01-05 04:54:38 PM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: What effect will global warming have on food eaten by autistic pirates?


Every possible effect
 
2014-01-05 04:56:59 PM
i483.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-05 04:59:15 PM
Or there is no recent upswing in autism and it is just more diagnosed now?

Oh wait, that would make too much sense
 
2014-01-05 04:59:56 PM
Uhm. Maybe I'm reading the numbers all wrong and stuff but WHICH increase in Autism?
I've been reading really hard on this now, which for me is going through two peer reviewed articles on it and they didn't conclude that there was an increase in Autism at all. Whats up with that?
Is Jenny McCarty ... wrong?!?
 
2014-01-05 05:00:05 PM

desertfool: Shostie: "Hey, guys! Check out this thing we found on Reddit!"

Seriously.... I'm seeing more and more stuff that started on Reddit in the "News". It least it saves me from ever having to visit that site, but it's getting disturbing.


To be fair, it's io9 (a Gawker Media site); ALL Gawker Media sites seem to be "Hey, guys! Check out this thing we found somewhere else!"

It's like vomiting to let people know how awesome that steak was, and then pointing to where on the menu you ordered it.
 
2014-01-05 05:01:06 PM
I dunno, if vaccines are so great, how come the manufacturers are completely indemnified against any lawsuits, including for wrongful death? And why did they have to push that as a rider on an unrelated bill? Also, why is it heresy to request double-blind studies on vaccines? What are the people who know these vaccines best, the makers, scared of?
 
2014-01-05 05:02:19 PM
Well, people who eat organic food are usually insufferable assholes, so this seems legit to me...
 
2014-01-05 05:02:40 PM

desertfool: Shostie: "Hey, guys! Check out this thing we found on Reddit!"

Seriously.... I'm seeing more and more stuff that started on Reddit in the "News". It least it saves me from ever having to visit that site, but it's getting disturbing.


I very rarely visit Reddit, so, I couldn't care less if something was on that site first.
 
2014-01-05 05:04:43 PM

Kevin72: Aspartame in diet soda ingested during pregnancy causes autism. Thank you, Donald Rumsfeld.


lol, you forgot the FW:FW:Fw:Fwd
 
2014-01-05 05:04:44 PM
ct.fra.bz
 
2014-01-05 05:08:11 PM

wickedragon: Uhm. Maybe I'm reading the numbers all wrong and stuff but WHICH increase in Autism?
I've been reading really hard on this now, which for me is going through two peer reviewed articles on it and they didn't conclude that there was an increase in Autism at all. Whats up with that?
Is Jenny McCarty ... wrong?!?


I thought I should add: "Is there an increase in the prevalence of autism spectrum disorders?" by M Prior,  Journal of Paediatrics and Child Health Volume 39 Issue 2
&
"Unpacking the complex nature of the autism epidemic" by a bunch of folks, Research in Autism Spectrum Disorders Volume 4, Issue 4.

And also, I liked the article linked to by Sub.
 
2014-01-05 05:11:30 PM
Yes, I'm sure eating foods that weren't given a cocktail of fertilizers and pesticides is messing up peoples body chemistry.
 
2014-01-05 05:12:43 PM

leevis: Yes, I'm sure eating foods that weren't given a cocktail of fertilizers and pesticides is messing up peoples body chemistry.


Organic foods use pesticides and fertilizer.
 
2014-01-05 05:13:19 PM

untaken_name: I dunno, if vaccines are so great, how come the manufacturers are completely indemnified against any lawsuits, including for wrongful death? And why did they have to push that as a rider on an unrelated bill? Also, why is it heresy to request double-blind studies on vaccines? What are the people who know these vaccines best, the makers, scared of?


Repeatedly being sued by the morons who listen to McCarthy?
 
2014-01-05 05:14:49 PM

ParallelUniverseParking:


Don't leave us hanging... what was your better headline?
 
2014-01-05 05:15:12 PM

untaken_name: Also, why is it heresy to request double-blind studies on vaccines?


Name a few vaccines that haven't been.
 
2014-01-05 05:15:42 PM
Because paranoia and over-diagnoses?
 
2014-01-05 05:17:48 PM
LOL,  not only the correlation/causation, but not using  inflation adjusted $, or % of childhood population, or other meaningful metrics
 
2014-01-05 05:19:51 PM

Leader O'Cola: LOL,  not only the correlation/causation, but not using  inflation adjusted $, or % of childhood population, or other meaningful metrics


That is the jokings of this.
 
2014-01-05 05:23:28 PM
Aww, common, it is caused by AGW, there is a consensus.
 
2014-01-05 05:24:27 PM
untaken_name:
I dunno, if vaccines are so great, how come the manufacturers are completely indemnified against any lawsuits, including for wrongful death? And why did they have to push that as a rider on an unrelated bill? Also, why is it heresy to request double-blind studies on vaccines? What are the people who know these vaccines best, the makers, scared of?

Yes it is suspicious isn't it.  Vaccine makers know their vaccines cause side effects, including sometimes FATAL side effects and brain damage.  They know it so much a system (VARES) has been set up to report adverse reactions.  But has anyone ever actually heard of vaccines being changed because someone reported a reaction?  Nope.  Not a single ingredient is changed.  The report databses simply allow the vaccine companies to monitor parents who don't support vaccination.  Suffice to say I don't think they are monitoring them for benevolent reasons.
 
2014-01-05 05:26:35 PM
This will be cited  as real science by FOX News and right-wing durpers in.. 3... 2...
 
2014-01-05 05:28:56 PM
► Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom
 2014-01-05 05:04:43 PM(favorite: Knew my age because I had never heard of Chuds. And knew that SFers would revel in being humiliated)

Kevin72 Aspartame in diet soda ingested during pregnancy causes autism. Thank you, Donald Rumsfeld.

lol, you forgot the FW:FW:Fw:Fwd

No. I heard it on Coast to Coast with George Moody.
 
2014-01-05 05:30:01 PM

untaken_name: I dunno, if vaccines are so great, how come the manufacturers are completely indemnified against any lawsuits, including for wrongful death?

I dunno much about the american system for liability, but I do know statistics. For quite a few vaccines there is a risk of something going wrong, it's just that NOT taking a vaccine also includes a risk of something going wrong. For society (and by all probability the one taking the vaccine) it is better if people vaccinate against dangerous contagious diseases like measles and polio (yes, measles kill people) but for a few select individuals the world is worse off. I'm guessing the U.S rules are set up as they are to not scare the makers of vaccines from making vaccines. We as a society are utterly dependent on them after all

Also, why is it heresy to request double-blind studies on vaccines?
It isn't?
"Haemophilus influenzae Type b Capsular Polysaccharide Vaccine in Children: A Double-Blind Field Study of 100,000 Vaccinees 3 Months to 5 Years of Age in Finland" by H Peltola et. al. from Pediatrics Vol. 60 No. 5  (1977)
&
"Safety and immunogenicity of 2009 pandemic influenza A H1N1 vaccines in China: a multicentre, double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled trial" by X-F Liang et. al from The Lancet Volume 375 Issue 9708 (2010)
 &
"Efficacy assessment of a cell-mediated immunity HIV-1 vaccine (the Step Study): a double-blind, randomised, placebo-controlled, test-of-concept trial" by S P Buchbinder et. al. from The Lancet Volume 372 Issue 9653 (2008)
&
"Efficacy of 23-valent pneumococcal vaccine in preventing pneumonia and improving survival in nursing home residents: double blind, randomised and placebo controlled trial" by T Maruyama et. al. from the British Medical Journal Volume 340 (2010)
 &
"Efficacy of human rotavirus vaccine against severe gastroenteritis in Malawian children in the first two years of life: A randomized, double-blind, placebo controlled trial" by N A Cunliffe et. al from Vaccine Volume 30 Supplement 1 (2012)

That was to name a small sample of the massive amount of double blind studies done on vaccines. Almost all of them include a study about possible ill effects to the subjects, both mental and physical. So no, it isn't heresy to request a double-blind study. But in science it IS heresy to not check first to see if one has been done already.
 
2014-01-05 05:30:36 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The numbers don't lie


But people love to lie with numbers.
 
2014-01-05 05:31:15 PM
Damn you farking Mandatory Spellcheck Android update. George Noory not George Moody.
 
2014-01-05 05:35:00 PM
I doubt it.  Perhaps it is something else that you are defining as Autism...
 
2014-01-05 05:36:16 PM

wickedragon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The numbers don't lie

But people love to lie with numbers.


Truer words...
 
2014-01-05 05:37:58 PM

Kevin72: Damn you farking Mandatory Spellcheck Android update. George Noory not George Moody.


I think i found the settings to turn it off. In fact now im sure.
 
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