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(The Raw Story)   Despite rationing and emergency deliveries, Colorado will run out of legal pot "within days." Everybody ... like, panic, dude   (rawstory.com) divider line 32
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2014-01-05 03:56:41 PM  
7 votes:

Somaticasual: Nation's investors, take heed. Legal weed is in your hands now, don't drop the ball.

And remember, colorado - we're watching you too, so please please be responsible with your new right!


We are trying. It honestly looks like its just Denver running out though. Some of the counties around it haven't even started selling legally yet.

/and we both know its not going away.
//to much tax money has now gone to the state for them to ever stop sucking on the teat of the green tax machine.
2014-01-05 03:52:33 PM  
7 votes:
Nation's investors, take heed. Legal weed is in your hands now, don't drop the ball.

And remember, colorado - we're watching you too, so please please be responsible with your new right!
2014-01-05 04:22:55 PM  
4 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.


They'd have to be very careful. Most of the regulation you see out of the federal government comes from the broadly interpreted "interstate commerce clause" that says the federal government can regulate interstate commerce. The government and the courts have generally taken this to mean "any and everything that deal with crossing state lines in any way," hence very broad powers.

Well the thing is, the Colorado marijuana program is all internal. The weed is grown, sold, and consumed in Colorado, and is done by Colorado businesses. So it really is something that the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to regulate. They maintain that they do, of course, the DEA says no drug use no matter what, but the constitution, even broadly interpreted, doesn't seem to support that.

So the issue is if they run in and start with all kinds of arrestin' well then they'll get it challenged in court. That is the last thing they want, because they might lose. They do NOT want the supreme court to get a case and rule "Nope, you can't enforce drug laws when it is all inside a state, that is state law only." That would really curtail what they could do. Worse, it could lead to a standoff with the state and assertion of state's rights.

As such I imagine they will take it real low key. They don't want this biting them in the ass.
2014-01-05 06:13:24 PM  
2 votes:

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.


The big secret about the DEA is that they have almost no actual agents.  They rely heavily on local cops to handle most of the enforcement, in return for payments from the Feds.  But when States make it legal, then the local cops can't take Fed cash, so they have zero incentive to help the DEA anymore.
2014-01-05 06:04:40 PM  
2 votes:

SearchN: Wasilla Hillbilly: So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.

This has been going on for the past few years.

And that's just Boulder County listings.


most profound reference I've seen yet. jobs. lots of new jobs.
2014-01-05 05:06:25 PM  
2 votes:
But don't dare call them addicts...
2014-01-05 04:16:20 PM  
2 votes:

Tenga: Agent Smiths Laugh: So with Colorado as a testbed, can anyone still claim that pot is destroying our civilization and threatening our freedoms?

I'm going to wait a year before I start the " I told you so's".


As far as oregon is concerned, people who want to smoke weed have not severely impacted our culture. I am personally in favor when someone has a legitimate reason for using it. Some people going through chemo have a hard enough time eating to keep their strength up. The pain relief is useful too.

Tl;dr

People who smoke weed are still going to whether its legal or not.
2014-01-05 04:10:04 PM  
2 votes:

Agent Smiths Laugh: So with Colorado as a testbed, can anyone still claim that pot is destroying our civilization and threatening our freedoms?


I'm going to wait a year before I start the " I told you so's".
2014-01-05 04:09:34 PM  
2 votes:
This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?
2014-01-05 04:07:55 PM  
2 votes:

Muta: What a boon for business.  Think of all the jobs it is creating.


See my attached craiglist help wanted ad's above.
2014-01-05 04:07:10 PM  
2 votes:
What a boon for business.  Think of all the jobs it is creating.
2014-01-05 04:00:32 PM  
2 votes:
So with Colorado as a testbed, can anyone still claim that pot is destroying our civilization and threatening our freedoms?
2014-01-05 03:57:54 PM  
2 votes:
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2014-01-05 03:32:34 PM  
2 votes:
Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.
2014-01-05 06:37:16 PM  
1 votes:

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.

The big secret about the DEA is that they have almost no actual agents.  They rely heavily on local cops to handle most of the enforcement, in return for payments from the Feds.  But when States make it legal, then the local cops can't take Fed cash, so they have zero incentive to help the DEA anymore.


Yep.  Plus, good luck finding a jury to convict in a Cannabis case in Colorado now - pretty much have to get pinched passing a joint with a 10 year old.  OK, maybe that's a bit extreme, but unless they can make a trafficking case stick, good luck getting a guilty verdict.
2014-01-05 05:36:46 PM  
1 votes:
What they need to do at the end of the year is have a public service ad played in every other state, showing the governor using a rake to collect together all the tax dollars they got from this venture.  "Even if you don't like the green, you'll like the green."
2014-01-05 05:24:14 PM  
1 votes:

theorellior: Dinki: Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change?

I think Massachusetts could make a tidy sum on it. Western Mass already has plenty of small-time tobacco farmers (yes, really, the soil is excellent for it), they could easily add cannabis to their grow ops. It'd probably be a boon to the economy of Springfield, which needs all the boons it can get.


I grew up in IL around corn fields and went to college in Hartford. I was fascinated by the tobacco fields because they were so different from what I'm used to.

As far as states that could benefit from legalization, put IL at the top. Build the Chicago casino, legalize weed and let anyone grow it and watch the most valuable soil in the world grow money on trees. Little sticky green trees.

Because thats what we need, a brand new revenue stream. That is the only solution that doesnt violate the state constitution. Between taxes and savings on law enforcement this is PRECISELY what the state needs to turn around.

You could use that money to:
1) completely rework funding for higher ed to restore U if I to its former glory. It is one of the crown jewels of IL and is neglected. Sounds crazy, but big public symbols like this are important for identity purposes. That means more affordable tuition and campuses and less corporate sponsorship (especially in naming rights to publicly owned buildings), not more sports exposure. It's the place to grow and cultivate the next generation of Illinoisans, not a money making center.
2) revamp backend IT infrastructure using the IL Century Network. While it is 'coming along,' every month they drag their feet on that we pay millions of dollars to Verizon that we dont have to because WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF BEING OUR OWN TELECOM! Its tragic how outdated all the main systems that make the machinery of state government move are. This would result in lower long term costs by being designed to use modern computing capacities to reduce workers and long term pension costs.
3) Even out the pension payments to stabilize it while a constitutional solution is found. I dont think SB1 is going to be held up by the ILSC, so its good to have a backup plan in place.
2014-01-05 05:20:43 PM  
1 votes:

untaken_name: Phil McKraken: Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?

It's more ridiculous than that. There's even more money to be saved by not arresting. prosecuting and incarcerating a LOT of people, who should have jobs and pay taxes.

Not for the people who run the private prison industry. They're kinda upset about this whole thing. Nonviolent drug offenders have become their favorite prisoners.


Understood. The cops like easy busts and forfeited assets.
2014-01-05 05:16:46 PM  
1 votes:

Phil McKraken: Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?

It's more ridiculous than that. There's even more money to be saved by not arresting. prosecuting and incarcerating a LOT of people, who should have jobs and pay taxes.


Not for the people who run the private prison industry. They're kinda upset about this whole thing. Nonviolent drug offenders have become their favorite prisoners.
2014-01-05 05:13:50 PM  
1 votes:

Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?


It's more ridiculous than that. There's even more money to be saved by not arresting. prosecuting and incarcerating a LOT of people, who should have jobs and pay taxes.
2014-01-05 05:10:27 PM  
1 votes:
No shortage with my supplier, none forcasted.  Knowing your grower is one advantage of the system in CO.

And he's not raising his prices.

I give the supply side about a year to get up to speed - it takes time to build and stock an indoor grow facility then produce inventory - by then I expect the prices and supply to stabilize.  Right now it's a monopoly situation - imagine, a gov't forced monopoly....

Anyone got a link to the world ending as a result of 5 days of sales?

Oh, and David Brooks:  Suck my sweaty nuts ya traitor.
2014-01-05 05:07:41 PM  
1 votes:
Really.
$500 for some damned "hydro".  The guy that walks past you and says "weed" sells an ounce of double throw down Northern LightsXthai stick clones $135 and it's yours, he hands you his card, raised letters, we deliver. Yup the pot business is still the pot business but shouldn't it be? Hell,I know folks who smoke weed in their 80's. Nice garden. The folks at the nursing home kind of depend on them.
An old lady(once a beautiful girl) once told me "Gods gave us to party" We were listening to Joe Satriani, "Flying in a blue dream"
Good Times!
Party on Dudes and Dudettes!
2014-01-05 05:07:08 PM  
1 votes:

srhp29: In other news, it is still cheaper go get your weed from where you got it before.


And its cheaper to buy moonshine than legal taxed liquor. However, one is a lot better than the other. That may not be the case right now with cannabis, but right after prohibition there wasn't much of a difference between the legal liquor and the illegal liquor. As time went on there emerged two distinct populations: one that just cared about getting their drunk on  for the minimum amt of cash, and one that cared about enjoying quality beer, wine, and spirits. I'm no economist, but i don't see why the cannabis market would advance any different than the booze market. Especially as other states inevitably relax their regulations and get more competition into the game. Eventually the people who want cheap shiat will get cheap shiat, and people who don't mind paying for a better product will get a better product.

/However, in both games you can still brew/grow your own which, as with tomatoes, will always be better than store-bought
2014-01-05 04:58:56 PM  
1 votes:
Time to crank up production then.  That's how it works.  When supply doesn't meet persistent demand, prices rise short term until capacity can be increased.
2014-01-05 04:37:42 PM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: David Brooks was right. The experiment has failed. Coloradoans should all join the track team.


That was probably one of the worst columns that hack has ever crapped out, and that's saying a lot.
2014-01-05 04:25:42 PM  
1 votes:

Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?



One who gets money from pharmaceutical companies.  I would imagine big pharma are the ones who really oppose legal pot.  There has got to be a bunch of medications that people would not need to take if they could just toke up when they wanted to legally.  Marinol might as well be flushed down the toilet.  Sleeping pills, aspirin and who knows what other meds in development would be affected by legal pot use and eat into their profits.

From Wiki: "The United States accounts for more than a third of the global pharmaceutical market, with $340 billion in annual sales..."

That tops weed by a few hundred billion so I'm sure the politicos are forced to deal with their demands.
2014-01-05 04:22:39 PM  
1 votes:

Dinki: What politician in their right mind would pass that up?


Maybe ones that want to be re-elected by fearful old farts that still outnumber every other demographic?
2014-01-05 04:07:59 PM  
1 votes:

SearchN: /and we both know its not going away.
//to much tax money has now gone to the state for them to ever stop sucking on the teat of the green tax machine.


This is a good point. If there's one thing in this country we can always count on, it's money = the rules. Seems it's working in marijuana's favor this time..
2014-01-05 04:05:49 PM  
1 votes:
Itheres no crisis unless there is a shortage of Doritos, Cheetos, or Taco Bell.
2014-01-05 04:00:27 PM  
1 votes:

89 Stick-Up Kid: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.

And Seattle! I have mine delivered...what a country!


Wait until Amazon begins those weed drone deliveries.  This is gonna be wack.
2014-01-05 03:57:26 PM  
1 votes:
So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.
2014-01-05 03:53:26 PM  
1 votes:
In other news, it is still cheaper go get your weed from where you got it before.
 
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