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(The Raw Story)   Despite rationing and emergency deliveries, Colorado will run out of legal pot "within days." Everybody ... like, panic, dude   (rawstory.com) divider line 105
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2014-01-05 03:07:43 PM
m.upall.co
 
2014-01-05 03:31:47 PM
I guess I missed my chance.
 
2014-01-05 03:32:34 PM
Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.
 
2014-01-05 03:52:33 PM
Nation's investors, take heed. Legal weed is in your hands now, don't drop the ball.

And remember, colorado - we're watching you too, so please please be responsible with your new right!
 
2014-01-05 03:53:14 PM
LOL
 
2014-01-05 03:53:26 PM
In other news, it is still cheaper go get your weed from where you got it before.
 
2014-01-05 03:55:44 PM
srhp29: If you like your dealer then you can keep them.

soundbyte
 
2014-01-05 03:56:41 PM

Somaticasual: Nation's investors, take heed. Legal weed is in your hands now, don't drop the ball.

And remember, colorado - we're watching you too, so please please be responsible with your new right!


We are trying. It honestly looks like its just Denver running out though. Some of the counties around it haven't even started selling legally yet.

/and we both know its not going away.
//to much tax money has now gone to the state for them to ever stop sucking on the teat of the green tax machine.
 
2014-01-05 03:56:43 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.


And Seattle! I have mine delivered...what a country!
 
2014-01-05 03:57:26 PM
So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.
 
2014-01-05 03:57:54 PM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2014-01-05 03:59:57 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.


This has been going on for the past few years.

And that's just Boulder County listings.
 
2014-01-05 04:00:02 PM
Stoned people problems......
 
2014-01-05 04:00:27 PM

89 Stick-Up Kid: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.

And Seattle! I have mine delivered...what a country!


Wait until Amazon begins those weed drone deliveries.  This is gonna be wack.
 
2014-01-05 04:00:32 PM
So with Colorado as a testbed, can anyone still claim that pot is destroying our civilization and threatening our freedoms?
 
2014-01-05 04:01:47 PM

Prey4reign: 89 Stick-Up Kid: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.

And Seattle! I have mine delivered...what a country!

Wait until Amazon begins those weed drone deliveries.  This is gonna be wack.


Is that why they can only carry a couple of pounds?
 
2014-01-05 04:02:47 PM
David Brooks was right.  The experiment has failed.  Coloradoans should all join the track team.
 
2014-01-05 04:05:49 PM
Itheres no crisis unless there is a shortage of Doritos, Cheetos, or Taco Bell.
 
2014-01-05 04:07:10 PM
What a boon for business.  Think of all the jobs it is creating.
 
2014-01-05 04:07:55 PM

Muta: What a boon for business.  Think of all the jobs it is creating.


See my attached craiglist help wanted ad's above.
 
2014-01-05 04:07:59 PM

SearchN: /and we both know its not going away.
//to much tax money has now gone to the state for them to ever stop sucking on the teat of the green tax machine.


This is a good point. If there's one thing in this country we can always count on, it's money = the rules. Seems it's working in marijuana's favor this time..
 
2014-01-05 04:09:34 PM
This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?
 
2014-01-05 04:10:04 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: So with Colorado as a testbed, can anyone still claim that pot is destroying our civilization and threatening our freedoms?


I'm going to wait a year before I start the " I told you so's".
 
2014-01-05 04:12:40 PM
So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.
 
2014-01-05 04:14:09 PM
Cheaper to get it here than there. And its hella illegal here.
 
2014-01-05 04:14:24 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.


Yup. They are watching, that was the last one they did.

/
 
2014-01-05 04:14:41 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.


BC or WA?
 
2014-01-05 04:14:53 PM

SearchN: Wasilla Hillbilly: So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.

This has been going on for the past few years.

And that's just Boulder County listings.


*looks through list*

Need a badge...need a badge...need a badge... need a badge... need a badge... *blows head off*

/farking student loans
//oh yeah, is anyone here a bankruptcy attorney?
 
2014-01-05 04:16:20 PM

Tenga: Agent Smiths Laugh: So with Colorado as a testbed, can anyone still claim that pot is destroying our civilization and threatening our freedoms?

I'm going to wait a year before I start the " I told you so's".


As far as oregon is concerned, people who want to smoke weed have not severely impacted our culture. I am personally in favor when someone has a legitimate reason for using it. Some people going through chemo have a hard enough time eating to keep their strength up. The pain relief is useful too.

Tl;dr

People who smoke weed are still going to whether its legal or not.
 
2014-01-05 04:16:26 PM

BalugaJoe: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Bull.

Phone any random number in Vancouver and you'll get all the weed you need.

BC or WA?


Either, really.
 
2014-01-05 04:19:57 PM
Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.
 
2014-01-05 04:22:39 PM

Dinki: What politician in their right mind would pass that up?


Maybe ones that want to be re-elected by fearful old farts that still outnumber every other demographic?
 
2014-01-05 04:22:55 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.


They'd have to be very careful. Most of the regulation you see out of the federal government comes from the broadly interpreted "interstate commerce clause" that says the federal government can regulate interstate commerce. The government and the courts have generally taken this to mean "any and everything that deal with crossing state lines in any way," hence very broad powers.

Well the thing is, the Colorado marijuana program is all internal. The weed is grown, sold, and consumed in Colorado, and is done by Colorado businesses. So it really is something that the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to regulate. They maintain that they do, of course, the DEA says no drug use no matter what, but the constitution, even broadly interpreted, doesn't seem to support that.

So the issue is if they run in and start with all kinds of arrestin' well then they'll get it challenged in court. That is the last thing they want, because they might lose. They do NOT want the supreme court to get a case and rule "Nope, you can't enforce drug laws when it is all inside a state, that is state law only." That would really curtail what they could do. Worse, it could lead to a standoff with the state and assertion of state's rights.

As such I imagine they will take it real low key. They don't want this biting them in the ass.
 
2014-01-05 04:24:31 PM

cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.


Yeah why do people buy anything they can grow themselves.
 
2014-01-05 04:25:42 PM

Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?



One who gets money from pharmaceutical companies.  I would imagine big pharma are the ones who really oppose legal pot.  There has got to be a bunch of medications that people would not need to take if they could just toke up when they wanted to legally.  Marinol might as well be flushed down the toilet.  Sleeping pills, aspirin and who knows what other meds in development would be affected by legal pot use and eat into their profits.

From Wiki: "The United States accounts for more than a third of the global pharmaceutical market, with $340 billion in annual sales..."

That tops weed by a few hundred billion so I'm sure the politicos are forced to deal with their demands.
 
2014-01-05 04:28:34 PM
Good thing I live in California, where there is a glut due to the recent harvest.
 
2014-01-05 04:31:34 PM
cdn.arwrath.com
 
2014-01-05 04:35:39 PM
Has there been a rush on the stores, emptying shelves of Cheetos?
 
2014-01-05 04:37:42 PM

Rapmaster2000: David Brooks was right. The experiment has failed. Coloradoans should all join the track team.


That was probably one of the worst columns that hack has ever crapped out, and that's saying a lot.
 
2014-01-05 04:39:07 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-05 04:41:06 PM

Dinki: Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change?


I think Massachusetts could make a tidy sum on it. Western Mass already has plenty of small-time tobacco farmers (yes, really, the soil is excellent for it), they could easily add cannabis to their grow ops. It'd probably be a boon to the economy of Springfield, which needs all the boons it can get.
 
2014-01-05 04:45:25 PM

theorellior: Dinki: Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change?

I think Massachusetts could make a tidy sum on it. Western Mass already has plenty of small-time tobacco farmers (yes, really, the soil is excellent for it), they could easily add cannabis to their grow ops. It'd probably be a boon to the economy of Springfield, which needs all the boons it can get.


i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2014-01-05 04:57:33 PM

theorellior: Dinki: Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change?

I think Massachusetts could make a tidy sum on it. Western Mass already has plenty of small-time tobacco farmers (yes, really, the soil is excellent for it), they could easily add cannabis to their grow ops. It'd probably be a boon to the economy of Springfield, which needs all the boons it can get.


That last sentence made me think of the monorail episode of simpsons for some reason
 
2014-01-05 04:58:56 PM
Time to crank up production then.  That's how it works.  When supply doesn't meet persistent demand, prices rise short term until capacity can be increased.
 
2014-01-05 05:06:25 PM
But don't dare call them addicts...
 
2014-01-05 05:07:08 PM

srhp29: In other news, it is still cheaper go get your weed from where you got it before.


And its cheaper to buy moonshine than legal taxed liquor. However, one is a lot better than the other. That may not be the case right now with cannabis, but right after prohibition there wasn't much of a difference between the legal liquor and the illegal liquor. As time went on there emerged two distinct populations: one that just cared about getting their drunk on  for the minimum amt of cash, and one that cared about enjoying quality beer, wine, and spirits. I'm no economist, but i don't see why the cannabis market would advance any different than the booze market. Especially as other states inevitably relax their regulations and get more competition into the game. Eventually the people who want cheap shiat will get cheap shiat, and people who don't mind paying for a better product will get a better product.

/However, in both games you can still brew/grow your own which, as with tomatoes, will always be better than store-bought
 
2014-01-05 05:07:41 PM
Really.
$500 for some damned "hydro".  The guy that walks past you and says "weed" sells an ounce of double throw down Northern LightsXthai stick clones $135 and it's yours, he hands you his card, raised letters, we deliver. Yup the pot business is still the pot business but shouldn't it be? Hell,I know folks who smoke weed in their 80's. Nice garden. The folks at the nursing home kind of depend on them.
An old lady(once a beautiful girl) once told me "Gods gave us to party" We were listening to Joe Satriani, "Flying in a blue dream"
Good Times!
Party on Dudes and Dudettes!
 
2014-01-05 05:10:27 PM
No shortage with my supplier, none forcasted.  Knowing your grower is one advantage of the system in CO.

And he's not raising his prices.

I give the supply side about a year to get up to speed - it takes time to build and stock an indoor grow facility then produce inventory - by then I expect the prices and supply to stabilize.  Right now it's a monopoly situation - imagine, a gov't forced monopoly....

Anyone got a link to the world ending as a result of 5 days of sales?

Oh, and David Brooks:  Suck my sweaty nuts ya traitor.
 
2014-01-05 05:13:50 PM

Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?


It's more ridiculous than that. There's even more money to be saved by not arresting. prosecuting and incarcerating a LOT of people, who should have jobs and pay taxes.
 
2014-01-05 05:16:46 PM

Phil McKraken: Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?

It's more ridiculous than that. There's even more money to be saved by not arresting. prosecuting and incarcerating a LOT of people, who should have jobs and pay taxes.


Not for the people who run the private prison industry. They're kinda upset about this whole thing. Nonviolent drug offenders have become their favorite prisoners.
 
2014-01-05 05:20:43 PM

untaken_name: Phil McKraken: Dinki: This is what I don't understand- Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change? Weed is a $40 billion a year business. Legalize it and it will be $50 billion. Even if they only get half that market they could easily see $2 to 3 Billion a year in revenue. What politician in their right mind would pass that up?

It's more ridiculous than that. There's even more money to be saved by not arresting. prosecuting and incarcerating a LOT of people, who should have jobs and pay taxes.

Not for the people who run the private prison industry. They're kinda upset about this whole thing. Nonviolent drug offenders have become their favorite prisoners.


Understood. The cops like easy busts and forfeited assets.
 
2014-01-05 05:22:59 PM

Abox: cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.

Yeah why do people buy anything they can grow themselves.


Convenience.  It's the same reason people don't (generally) brew their own beer, distill their own spirits, make their own wine, or grow their own tobacco.
 
2014-01-05 05:23:06 PM

cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.


There is a steep difference in quality between what the average person can grow in their home/yard and what you get from a professionally tended grow operation.

If we assume quality seeds are not an issue to get, you still have cultivation issues that can lead to very big differences.

In short, yes they can grow their own.  Just like you can build your own computer or car.  It's possible, it's just not as easy as you seem to think.
 
2014-01-05 05:24:14 PM

theorellior: Dinki: Why politicians in NYS or any of the other north east US aren't running to legalize pot as fast as they can. Don't they realize that the first state on the east coast to legalize it will have such a windfall in tax revenue it will make the Tobacco settlement look like chump change?

I think Massachusetts could make a tidy sum on it. Western Mass already has plenty of small-time tobacco farmers (yes, really, the soil is excellent for it), they could easily add cannabis to their grow ops. It'd probably be a boon to the economy of Springfield, which needs all the boons it can get.


I grew up in IL around corn fields and went to college in Hartford. I was fascinated by the tobacco fields because they were so different from what I'm used to.

As far as states that could benefit from legalization, put IL at the top. Build the Chicago casino, legalize weed and let anyone grow it and watch the most valuable soil in the world grow money on trees. Little sticky green trees.

Because thats what we need, a brand new revenue stream. That is the only solution that doesnt violate the state constitution. Between taxes and savings on law enforcement this is PRECISELY what the state needs to turn around.

You could use that money to:
1) completely rework funding for higher ed to restore U if I to its former glory. It is one of the crown jewels of IL and is neglected. Sounds crazy, but big public symbols like this are important for identity purposes. That means more affordable tuition and campuses and less corporate sponsorship (especially in naming rights to publicly owned buildings), not more sports exposure. It's the place to grow and cultivate the next generation of Illinoisans, not a money making center.
2) revamp backend IT infrastructure using the IL Century Network. While it is 'coming along,' every month they drag their feet on that we pay millions of dollars to Verizon that we dont have to because WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF BEING OUR OWN TELECOM! Its tragic how outdated all the main systems that make the machinery of state government move are. This would result in lower long term costs by being designed to use modern computing capacities to reduce workers and long term pension costs.
3) Even out the pension payments to stabilize it while a constitutional solution is found. I dont think SB1 is going to be held up by the ILSC, so its good to have a backup plan in place.
 
2014-01-05 05:29:22 PM
This is an initial rush, including people flooding in from other states during a holiday season buying amounts which could last a month for infrequent consumers.
 
2014-01-05 05:36:46 PM
What they need to do at the end of the year is have a public service ad played in every other state, showing the governor using a rake to collect together all the tax dollars they got from this venture.  "Even if you don't like the green, you'll like the green."
 
2014-01-05 05:47:18 PM
no shortage in this part of CO.
 
2014-01-05 05:54:01 PM

poorjon: srhp29: In other news, it is still cheaper go get your weed from where you got it before.

And its cheaper to buy moonshine than legal taxed liquor. However, one is a lot better than the other. That may not be the case right now with cannabis, but right after prohibition there wasn't much of a difference between the legal liquor and the illegal liquor. As time went on there emerged two distinct populations: one that just cared about getting their drunk on  for the minimum amt of cash, and one that cared about enjoying quality beer, wine, and spirits. I'm no economist, but i don't see why the cannabis market would advance any different than the booze market. Especially as other states inevitably relax their regulations and get more competition into the game. Eventually the people who want cheap shiat will get cheap shiat, and people who don't mind paying for a better product will get a better product.

/However, in both games you can still brew/grow your own which, as with tomatoes, will always be better than store-bought


I'm guessing that you haven't bought moonshine lately.  At $25/pt and $40/qt. it is certainly more expensive than buying decent legal hooch.  If you compare it to bottom shelf vodak, it's not even close.
 
2014-01-05 06:04:40 PM

SearchN: Wasilla Hillbilly: So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.

This has been going on for the past few years.

And that's just Boulder County listings.


most profound reference I've seen yet. jobs. lots of new jobs.
 
2014-01-05 06:08:27 PM

delta_pwnd: SearchN: Wasilla Hillbilly: So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.

This has been going on for the past few years.

And that's just Boulder County listings.

most profound reference I've seen yet. jobs. lots of new jobs.


Yeah, but can you take your work home?
 
2014-01-05 06:09:36 PM

AngryDragon: Abox: cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.

Yeah why do people buy anything they can grow themselves.

Convenience.  It's the same reason people don't (generally) brew their own beer, distill their own spirits, make their own wine, or grow their own tobacco.




To his point, Missouri spends millions every year using chemicals to eradicate 'ditch weed' on the sides of the highways.
 
2014-01-05 06:13:24 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.


The big secret about the DEA is that they have almost no actual agents.  They rely heavily on local cops to handle most of the enforcement, in return for payments from the Feds.  But when States make it legal, then the local cops can't take Fed cash, so they have zero incentive to help the DEA anymore.
 
2014-01-05 06:23:40 PM
What ever happened with the fact that it is still not allowed to deduct expenses on marijuana from a business's federal taxes?  Did the IRS amend that?
 
2014-01-05 06:28:28 PM

delta_pwnd: SearchN: Wasilla Hillbilly: So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.

This has been going on for the past few years.

And that's just Boulder County listings.

most profound reference I've seen yet. jobs. lots of new jobs.


Wow. That's a first. Thanks!

/but just pointing out what's happening up in CO.
//everybody is looking for good bud tenders right now.
 
2014-01-05 06:35:39 PM

poorjon: As time went on there emerged two distinct populations: one that just cared about getting their drunk on  for the minimum amt of cash, and one that cared about enjoying quality beer, wine, and spirits.


What I have seen, however, is quality in weed tends to based on THC content. Now, THC content influences the taste, smell, and appearance, and people often gauge THC content on those factors, with low THC content cannabis having less of the smell and taste associated with weed and mundane appearance. Of course, there are some differences outside of THC content, but my experiences say people tend to rate first on THC content, with the others being factors in selecting strains of similar THC content.

For alcohol, on the other hand, alcohol content is not the primary factor for quality. Being a tremendous fan of imperial stouts and india pale ales as well as barley wines, there are tons of attempts with high alcohol beers which are imbalanced, muddled, and simply low in quality due to bad procedures such as reliance on more hops rather than higher alpha acids for bittering and such. On the other end, there are many complex and flavorful beers to be had in lagers and wheats and saisons and other sessionable ales; Stone Levitation is a great example of this where the deep color, hop character, and smoky malt profile mask the beer as being 4.4% alcohol.

Further, the intent of smoking cannabis is often to get high; I do not mean stoned, just weed lacks the beverage purpose beer and wine and mixed drinks often have, and we get back to the idea of flavor being far secondary to THC content in determining quality, thus not enjoyed for the complex notes as a cigar or scotch would.

All my opinion, one which has little experience with cannabis and being around weed-smoking crowds.
 
2014-01-05 06:37:16 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: So is the DEA just looking the other way in this?

Seems like a good way to pad their arrest numbers.

The big secret about the DEA is that they have almost no actual agents.  They rely heavily on local cops to handle most of the enforcement, in return for payments from the Feds.  But when States make it legal, then the local cops can't take Fed cash, so they have zero incentive to help the DEA anymore.


Yep.  Plus, good luck finding a jury to convict in a Cannabis case in Colorado now - pretty much have to get pinched passing a joint with a 10 year old.  OK, maybe that's a bit extreme, but unless they can make a trafficking case stick, good luck getting a guilty verdict.
 
2014-01-05 06:44:05 PM

zimbomba63: delta_pwnd: SearchN: Wasilla Hillbilly: So hopefully the response is ramping up production leading to overabundance and reasonable prices.

This has been going on for the past few years.

And that's just Boulder County listings.

most profound reference I've seen yet. jobs. lots of new jobs.

Yeah, but can you take your work home?


Lord knows I used to.

SearchN: //everybody is looking for good bud tenders who have a clean criminal record and no student loans or other outstanding federal debt right now.


ftfy
 
2014-01-05 06:44:45 PM
LOL, wonder if the Mexicans will step up and bring some in ;)

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2014-01-05 06:48:18 PM

p51d007: LOL, wonder if the Mexicans will step up and bring some in ;)

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if they wouldn't mind dropping a bushel off in New Mexico on their way, i'd greatly appreciate it.
 
2014-01-05 06:50:56 PM
My heart goes out to all of those in Colorado.
 
2014-01-05 07:06:12 PM
You know what will happen if they legalize pot? The same thing as legalizing gay marriage and interracial marriage and landing on the moon and Dow hits 15000.... only different.
 
2014-01-05 07:19:41 PM
radarlove:
SearchN: //everybody is looking for good bud tenders who have a clean criminal record and no student loans or other outstanding federal debt right now.

ftfy


Yea, but it still stands. There are a LOT of companies looking right now.
 
2014-01-05 07:24:42 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: But don't dare call them addicts...


I have about 3 beers and maybe a dozen shots of single malt per year.  Am I an addict?  An alcoholic?

Or does that term only apply to substances you don't like?
 
2014-01-05 07:33:03 PM

SearchN: radarlove:
SearchN: //everybody is looking for good bud tenders who have a clean criminal record and no student loans or other outstanding federal debt right now.

ftfy

Yea, but it still stands. There are a LOT of companies looking right now.


I have a feeling that if the bolded part were changed in some way an awful lot of those positions would be instantly filled.  There are a lot of very experienced budtenders in Colorado who lost their jobs when that rule went into effect two years ago, and they're still looking for work.
 
2014-01-05 07:34:43 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: But don't dare call them addicts...

I have about 3 beers and maybe a dozen shots of single malt per year.  Am I an addict?  An alcoholic?

Or does that term only apply to substances you don't like?


Nah. Dow's just a notorious troll. Don't let him rile 'ya.
 
2014-01-05 07:37:25 PM

Kahabut: cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.

There is a steep difference in quality between what the average person can grow in their home/yard and what you get from a professionally tended grow operation.

If we assume quality seeds are not an issue to get, you still have cultivation issues that can lead to very big differences.

In short, yes they can grow their own.  Just like you can build your own computer or car.  It's possible, it's just not as easy as you seem to think.


It's not as difficult as you think either...Won't win a cannabis cup, but will get you high and even taste good if you put a bit of effort.
 
2014-01-05 07:42:14 PM

Vangor: poorjon: As time went on there emerged two distinct populations: one that just cared about getting their drunk on  for the minimum amt of cash, and one that cared about enjoying quality beer, wine, and spirits.

What I have seen, however, is quality in weed tends to based on THC content. Now, THC content influences the taste, smell, and appearance, and people often gauge THC content on those factors, with low THC content cannabis having less of the smell and taste associated with weed and mundane appearance. Of course, there are some differences outside of THC content, but my experiences say people tend to rate first on THC content, with the others being factors in selecting strains of similar THC content.

For alcohol, on the other hand, alcohol content is not the primary factor for quality. Being a tremendous fan of imperial stouts and india pale ales as well as barley wines, there are tons of attempts with high alcohol beers which are imbalanced, muddled, and simply low in quality due to bad procedures such as reliance on more hops rather than higher alpha acids for bittering and such. On the other end, there are many complex and flavorful beers to be had in lagers and wheats and saisons and other sessionable ales; Stone Levitation is a great example of this where the deep color, hop character, and smoky malt profile mask the beer as being 4.4% alcohol.

Further, the intent of smoking cannabis is often to get high; I do not mean stoned, just weed lacks the beverage purpose beer and wine and mixed drinks often have, and we get back to the idea of flavor being far secondary to THC content in determining quality, thus not enjoyed for the complex notes as a cigar or scotch would.

All my opinion, one which has little experience with cannabis and being around weed-smoking crowds.


Your lack of experience shows, but you've got a good start.

There are definite differences between strains, generally falling along indica versus sativa content, or THC versus CBD, to get on the molecular side of things. It's not just the amount of THC, but what kind, as they produce different highs. In my experience, when people walk in and are new and don't know what to try, I always tell them to follow their nose. It seems to me that strain that reacts most with your nose to give you the most pleasant smell seems to be the one that has the most beneficial effect on you. I think it took about six months before I could tell the difference between strains after smoking, and about a year of buying it myself before I learned what to look for.

There is definitely a specialization market, and even in LA, there are price differences between higher quality versus brick weed. The term "gourmet" or "artisan" weed has been floating around here once rumors of CO and WA going legal started.
 
2014-01-05 07:44:19 PM
Pothead people problems.
 
2014-01-05 07:58:32 PM
There is plenty in Washington.
 
2014-01-05 08:18:49 PM

radarlove: SearchN: radarlove:
SearchN: //everybody is looking for good bud tenders who have a clean criminal record and no student loans or other outstanding federal debt right now.

ftfy

Yea, but it still stands. There are a LOT of companies looking right now.

I have a feeling that if the bolded part were changed in some way an awful lot of those positions would be instantly filled.  There are a lot of very experienced budtenders in Colorado who lost their jobs when that rule went into effect two years ago, and they're still looking for work.


Don't doubt it for a second. Seems you are in Fort Collins, I'm in Boulder. We probably both know a ton of people that could easily grow some nice stuff, but can't due to the regulations.
 
2014-01-05 08:24:39 PM
And damn it, I need to make this post just so I can be 1/8th of the total posts in here.
 
2014-01-05 08:27:46 PM

Vangor: This is an initial rush, including people flooding in from other states during a holiday season buying amounts which could last a month for infrequent consumers.


I see a one way air ticket is only $86 from Minneapolis to Denver.
I think I'd rather go to Ft Meyers where it's slightly warmer though.
 
2014-01-05 08:27:50 PM

stryed: Kahabut: cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.

There is a steep difference in quality between what the average person can grow in their home/yard and what you get from a professionally tended grow operation.

If we assume quality seeds are not an issue to get, you still have cultivation issues that can lead to very big differences.

In short, yes they can grow their own.  Just like you can build your own computer or car.  It's possible, it's just not as easy as you seem to think.

It's not as difficult as you think either...Won't win a cannabis cup, but will get you high and even taste good if you put a bit of effort.


Translation: you can grow ditch weed really easily! It gets you high! Sort of.

I heard Toilet Sangria will get you drunk, it's weird more people don't make their own liquor. It not as difficult as you think!
 
2014-01-05 08:31:20 PM

SearchN: radarlove: SearchN: radarlove:
SearchN: //everybody is looking for good bud tenders who have a clean criminal record and no student loans or other outstanding federal debt right now.

ftfy

Yea, but it still stands. There are a LOT of companies looking right now.

I have a feeling that if the bolded part were changed in some way an awful lot of those positions would be instantly filled.  There are a lot of very experienced budtenders in Colorado who lost their jobs when that rule went into effect two years ago, and they're still looking for work.

Don't doubt it for a second. Seems you are in Fort Collins, I'm in Boulder. We probably both know a ton of people that could easily grow some nice stuff, but can't due to the regulations.


I'm actually in NM these days.  After Fort Collins shuttered our dispensary I looked for work all over but whoodathunkit, nobody from a square business really wants to hire someone who's made a career out of selling cannabis.  Went homeless for a little while but now we're staying with in-laws in this shiatty, jobless desert.

Going to college (and more specifically, taking out loans to do it) is absolutely the worst decision I've ever made in my life.
 
2014-01-05 08:35:54 PM

js34603: stryed: Kahabut: cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.

There is a steep difference in quality between what the average person can grow in their home/yard and what you get from a professionally tended grow operation.

If we assume quality seeds are not an issue to get, you still have cultivation issues that can lead to very big differences.

In short, yes they can grow their own.  Just like you can build your own computer or car.  It's possible, it's just not as easy as you seem to think.

It's not as difficult as you think either...Won't win a cannabis cup, but will get you high and even taste good if you put a bit of effort.

Translation: you can grow ditch weed really easily! It gets you high! Sort of.

I heard Toilet Sangria will get you drunk, it's weird more people don't make their own liquor. It not as difficult as you think!


I want to laugh, but I've seen the heartbreak in people's faces after thinking, "Hey, it's just a plant- all i need is dirt, water, and light and I'm home free!" only to end up with a scrawny, scraggly little guy not worth of being Charlie Brown's Christmas tree.

Folks forget that gardening can be hard work that requires lots of vigilance and attention to detail.  Especially cannabis gardening.
 
2014-01-05 08:55:23 PM

radarlove: js34603: stryed: Kahabut: cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.

There is a steep difference in quality between what the average person can grow in their home/yard and what you get from a professionally tended grow operation.

If we assume quality seeds are not an issue to get, you still have cultivation issues that can lead to very big differences.

In short, yes they can grow their own.  Just like you can build your own computer or car.  It's possible, it's just not as easy as you seem to think.

It's not as difficult as you think either...Won't win a cannabis cup, but will get you high and even taste good if you put a bit of effort.

Translation: you can grow ditch weed really easily! It gets you high! Sort of.

I heard Toilet Sangria will get you drunk, it's weird more people don't make their own liquor. It not as difficult as you think!

I want to laugh, but I've seen the heartbreak in people's faces after thinking, "Hey, it's just a plant- all i need is dirt, water, and light and I'm home free!" only to end up with a scrawny, scraggly little guy not worth of being Charlie Brown's Christmas tree.

Folks forget that gardening can be hard work that requires lots of vigilance and attention to detail.  Especially cannabis gardening.


Gardening does require lots of work, and I have tomatoes the size of grapefruits. I think I could give any grower a run for thier money if legality wasnt an issue.

Am I in before "Grow hemp for the war" wwii propaganda poster?
 
2014-01-05 09:10:37 PM

radarlove: SearchN: radarlove: SearchN: radarlove:
SearchN: //everybody is looking for good bud tenders who have a clean criminal record and no student loans or other outstanding federal debt right now.

ftfy

Yea, but it still stands. There are a LOT of companies looking right now.

I have a feeling that if the bolded part were changed in some way an awful lot of those positions would be instantly filled.  There are a lot of very experienced budtenders in Colorado who lost their jobs when that rule went into effect two years ago, and they're still looking for work.

Don't doubt it for a second. Seems you are in Fort Collins, I'm in Boulder. We probably both know a ton of people that could easily grow some nice stuff, but can't due to the regulations.

I'm actually in NM these days.  After Fort Collins shuttered our dispensary I looked for work all over but whoodathunkit, nobody from a square business really wants to hire someone who's made a career out of selling cannabis.  Went homeless for a little while but now we're staying with in-laws in this shiatty, jobless desert.

Going to college (and more specifically, taking out loans to do it) is absolutely the worst decision I've ever made in my life.


We should talk offline. EIP.
 
2014-01-05 09:19:02 PM

SearchN: radarlove: SearchN: radarlove: SearchN: radarlove:
SearchN: //everybody is looking for good bud tenders who have a clean criminal record and no student loans or other outstanding federal debt right now.

ftfy

Yea, but it still stands. There are a LOT of companies looking right now.

I have a feeling that if the bolded part were changed in some way an awful lot of those positions would be instantly filled.  There are a lot of very experienced budtenders in Colorado who lost their jobs when that rule went into effect two years ago, and they're still looking for work.

Don't doubt it for a second. Seems you are in Fort Collins, I'm in Boulder. We probably both know a ton of people that could easily grow some nice stuff, but can't due to the regulations.

I'm actually in NM these days.  After Fort Collins shuttered our dispensary I looked for work all over but whoodathunkit, nobody from a square business really wants to hire someone who's made a career out of selling cannabis.  Went homeless for a little while but now we're staying with in-laws in this shiatty, jobless desert.

Going to college (and more specifically, taking out loans to do it) is absolutely the worst decision I've ever made in my life.

We should talk offline. EIP.


Where IP, exactly?
 
2014-01-05 09:42:21 PM
The Feds are going to use civil forfeiture laws to take over Colorado.
 
2014-01-05 09:59:35 PM
Well, there goes the last of my doubt that pot legalization will explode in the next couple years. Any state congressmen who opposes legalization, regulation (and taxation!!) of a naturally occurring plant with no deleterious side effects, that dispensaries literally can't handle the demand of? Well, they might as well run in North Carolina on a platform of banning any production or sale of tobacco.

If properly regulated, states can control the potency and the cost, keeping it expensive enough for "children" to have access, and low-potency enough that people aren't frying their gourds on some too-sticky icky.

Not to mention, vast new tax revenue from a market that has always existed, but has never been taxed.
 
2014-01-06 03:23:06 AM

sycraft: Well the thing is, the Colorado marijuana program is all internal. The weed is grown, sold, and consumed in Colorado, and is done by Colorado businesses. So it really is something that the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to regulate. They maintain that they do, of course, the DEA says no drug use no matter what, but the constitution, even broadly interpreted, doesn't seem to support that.


Alas no.  "Purely internal" to a state hasn't been a limitation on federal constitutional commerce clause authority since the mid-1930s.  Gonzalez v. Raich, 545 U.S. 1 (2006) has held the feds can affect in-state drug sales/use.
 
2014-01-06 07:19:39 AM
They can drink White Russians
 
2014-01-06 09:39:35 AM

radarlove: js34603: stryed: Kahabut: cyberspacedout: Can't people grow their own? There's a reason it's called weed.

There is a steep difference in quality between what the average person can grow in their home/yard and what you get from a professionally tended grow operation.

If we assume quality seeds are not an issue to get, you still have cultivation issues that can lead to very big differences.

In short, yes they can grow their own.  Just like you can build your own computer or car.  It's possible, it's just not as easy as you seem to think.

It's not as difficult as you think either...Won't win a cannabis cup, but will get you high and even taste good if you put a bit of effort.

Translation: you can grow ditch weed really easily! It gets you high! Sort of.

I heard Toilet Sangria will get you drunk, it's weird more people don't make their own liquor. It not as difficult as you think!

I want to laugh, but I've seen the heartbreak in people's faces after thinking, "Hey, it's just a plant- all i need is dirt, water, and light and I'm home free!" only to end up with a scrawny, scraggly little guy not worth of being Charlie Brown's Christmas tree.

Folks forget that gardening can be hard work that requires lots of vigilance and attention to detail.  Especially cannabis gardening.


And yet, somehow my buddy grew a decent plant in his backyard. While often forgetting to water it, etc. It wasn't top grade, but it also wasn't an analogue to toilet hooch or ditch weed.

Once you figure out male vs female, it's not too tricky.
 
2014-01-06 10:36:26 AM
and to think, people were just talking about how overpriced it was.  guess it wasn't priced high enough.
 
2014-01-06 10:44:28 AM
This reminds me of when Krispy Kreme opened a store in my town. For two weeks, there was a line around the block, with cops directing traffic in and out of the lot. Now, you can walk right in, no lines, no hassle. Give it some time.

/way to go, Colorado!
 
2014-01-06 11:54:18 AM
Bummer, man.

Holy sheep shiat.
 
2014-01-06 12:16:35 PM
News: pot is harmless. smoke up, kids!!   --your favorate pot dealer.
 
2014-01-06 12:35:12 PM
I guess they better start growing it like corn. Then turn around and have the govt pay them to stop growing so much.
 
2014-01-06 12:37:46 PM

Linux_Yes: News: pot is harmless. smoke up, kids!!   --your favorate pot dealer.


My favorate pot dealer doesn't sell to kids, doesn't have much to say regarding harm, and is pretty good spellor.
 
2014-01-06 12:51:41 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: Linux_Yes: News: pot is harmless. smoke up, kids!!   --your favorate pot dealer.

My favorate pot dealer doesn't sell to kids, doesn't have much to say regarding harm, and is pretty good spellor.



and he won't be discussing harm because he wants to keep his customers.   the smartest dealersa and the ones who last in the business don't do the dope (at least not very often), they just sell it.
 
2014-01-06 01:04:04 PM
Smoking from your own supply can cut into your profit margin, but is negligible at higher volumes. With harder drugs the risk is more to do with behavior changes and risk taking than maintaining a profit.
 
2014-01-06 10:13:59 PM

Linux_Yes: Wasilla Hillbilly: Linux_Yes: News: pot is harmless. smoke up, kids!!   --your favorate pot dealer.

My favorate pot dealer doesn't sell to kids, doesn't have much to say regarding harm, and is pretty good spellor.


and he won't be discussing harm because he wants to keep his customers.   the smartest dealersa and the ones who last in the business don't do the dope (at least not very often), they just sell it.


When you're talking hard drugs, maybe. I have a friend who hangs out with a lot of weed dealers and they all smoke.
 
2014-01-06 11:12:13 PM

untaken_name: Linux_Yes: Wasilla Hillbilly: Linux_Yes: News: pot is harmless. smoke up, kids!!   --your favorate pot dealer.

My favorate pot dealer doesn't sell to kids, doesn't have much to say regarding harm, and is pretty good spellor.


and he won't be discussing harm because he wants to keep his customers.   the smartest dealersa and the ones who last in the business don't do the dope (at least not very often), they just sell it.

When you're talking hard drugs, maybe. I have a friend who hangs out with a lot of weed dealers and they all smoke.


They all smoke, but usually its from the bag they just sold to someone. Who doesn't light one up with the person they are getting the herb from?
 
2014-01-06 11:38:53 PM

SearchN: untaken_name: Linux_Yes: Wasilla Hillbilly: Linux_Yes: News: pot is harmless. smoke up, kids!!   --your favorate pot dealer.

My favorate pot dealer doesn't sell to kids, doesn't have much to say regarding harm, and is pretty good spellor.


and he won't be discussing harm because he wants to keep his customers.   the smartest dealersa and the ones who last in the business don't do the dope (at least not very often), they just sell it.

When you're talking hard drugs, maybe. I have a friend who hangs out with a lot of weed dealers and they all smoke.

They all smoke, but usually its from the bag they just sold to someone. Who doesn't light one up with the person they are getting the herb from?


I've heard that sometimes samples are also shared previous to any exchange in order to assist with purchasing decisions.
 
2014-01-07 01:16:30 AM

untaken_name: SearchN: untaken_name: Linux_Yes: Wasilla Hillbilly: Linux_Yes: News: pot is harmless. smoke up, kids!!   --your favorate pot dealer.

My favorate pot dealer doesn't sell to kids, doesn't have much to say regarding harm, and is pretty good spellor.


and he won't be discussing harm because he wants to keep his customers.   the smartest dealersa and the ones who last in the business don't do the dope (at least not very often), they just sell it.

When you're talking hard drugs, maybe. I have a friend who hangs out with a lot of weed dealers and they all smoke.

They all smoke, but usually its from the bag they just sold to someone. Who doesn't light one up with the person they are getting the herb from?

I've heard that sometimes samples are also shared previous to any exchange in order to assist with purchasing decisions.


Not from my experience. Then again, I could be a bit jaded because every dealer I have ever had (which was a long time ago) I knew through a friend that vouched for them. Just customary to smoke one with them, play a game of chess/domino's/ect and enjoy a good bowl. Nothing as entertaining as playing chess while high imo.

/I play way to much chess.
 
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