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(Entertainment Weekly)   NBC celebrates 60 years of The Tonight Show with first promo featuring the show's history and new host Jimmy Fallon. Conan O'Brien's stint included in real time   (insidetv.ew.com) divider line 45
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2014-01-05 03:21:02 PM
I didn't see Letterman in that promo

/ :(
 
2014-01-05 03:36:53 PM
It's ok.
 
2014-01-05 03:52:50 PM
Place your bets on how long till Jay Leno returns as host.
 
2014-01-05 03:57:50 PM

lasercannon: Place your bets on how long till Jay Leno returns as host.


He might not this time around.  Fallon has proven he is capable of doing the job.  Add to it that Lorne Michaels won't give up his near absolute control of NBC's late night lineup without a fight, and Leno will stay in his garage.

/though I'd love to see Leno finally do a US version of Top Gear that might be worth a damn
//the man knows his cars
 
2014-01-05 03:59:32 PM
Jimmy Fallon is a great guy that for some reason I can't watching. He just annoys me at some level for no fault of his own.
 
2014-01-05 04:04:25 PM
*Sighs*

As if Leno wasn't bad enough, Fallon just isn't a funny host. He's awkward and seemingly dim-witted half of the time.  His writing is funny sometimes, but he's painful to watch when he has to think on his feet. They have completely wrecked the show since Johnny died. What's next, is Fox going to bring Arsenio back? Oh, wait...

/Give Henry Rollins a slot at 11:35.  Love him or hate him, he's smart, quick minded and is a great interviewer.
//Poor Conan.
///Ferguson is way funnier than Fallon
 
2014-01-05 04:05:38 PM
Eh, they forgot Ernie Kovacs again (Mondays & Tuesdays, 1956-57)
 
2014-01-05 04:15:03 PM
Man, Fallon sucks.
 
2014-01-05 04:17:24 PM
Yay 60 years of woman driver and post office jokes, yay

/ Yes, I know, they make a Monica Lewinski joke now and then
 
2014-01-05 04:19:58 PM

peewinkle: *Sighs*

As if Leno wasn't bad enough, Fallon just isn't a funny host. He's awkward and seemingly dim-witted half of the time.  His writing is funny sometimes, but he's painful to watch when he has to think on his feet. They have completely wrecked the show since Johnny died. What's next, is Fox going to bring Arsenio back? Oh, wait...

/Give Henry Rollins a slot at 11:35.  Love him or hate him, he's smart, quick minded and is a great interviewer.
//Poor Conan.
///Ferguson is way funnier than Fallon


But Fallon has a great band and and can get his guests to make fun of themselves and can actually get out his chair.
 
2014-01-05 04:26:20 PM
peewinkle:
///Ferguson is way funnier than Fallon

I really hope he gets Letterman's spot, assuming Letterman retires some time before the heat death of the universe.
 
2014-01-05 04:36:50 PM

hubcity: Eh, they forgot Ernie Kovacs again (Mondays & Tuesdays, 1956-57)


Yup, and the hosts of Tonight! America After Dark, Jack Lescoulie and Al Collins, between Steve Allen/Ernie Kovacs and Jack Paar.
 
2014-01-05 04:50:10 PM

hubcity: Eh, they forgot Ernie Kovacs again (Mondays & Tuesdays, 1956-57)


Have you seen late night tv lately? How can you say they forgot Kovacs when they're all doing his bits?

Maybe they didn't mention him, but if they forgot him they wouldn't have any material.
 
2014-01-05 04:51:46 PM
Cocoites unit?
 
2014-01-05 05:05:59 PM

macross87: Cocoites unit?


I just watched Conan O'Brien Can't Stop last night.  I seriously think he is much more talented than people realize.  He really should sing and play music more often.

peewinkle:
///Ferguson is way funnier than Fallon

I really hope he gets Letterman's spot, assuming Letterman retires some time before the heat death of the universe.


I get the feeling that Ferguson likes his late night spot because he can get away with more.  I'd like to see Conan get Letterman's spot.
 
2014-01-05 05:38:43 PM
NBC: Remember when the show was watchable?
 
2014-01-05 05:53:03 PM
I guess I'm one of the few that think that Fallon is the closest thing to a new Carson in a long time. He's the only host I've seen in a while who goes out of his way to make the guests look good instead of competing with them.

I'm not that big of a fan, but I don't watch much network TV anymore. But what I've seen of him reminds me quite a bit of Carson.

/Old enough to have seen more Carson than any other late night host.
 
2014-01-05 06:12:31 PM
NBC under Comcast is pulling the trigger on the deal that NBCUniversal started but couldn't bring themselves to finish - removing Jay Leno in favor of a host who could hold dominance in the 18/34 demographic.  They had it with O'Brien but lost in every other group, and panicked, so O'Brien got shuffled off to TBS.  This won't happen with Comcast in charge.

ABC is in the strongest potential position with Jimmy Kimmel.  They've set him up well for the target demos, and he's delivering them already.  Once Leno's gone, he immediately picks up some from NBC.  If he can hold that gained audience, it'll be interesting.

CBS is in the most perilous state.  Letterman's going to run as long as he wants to, which means CBS either has a deal in place that either (a) brings in Conan O'Brien to take over the Late Show, (b) brings in Jon Stewart to take over the Late Show, or (c) elevates Craig Ferguson to the show... or they have no plans at all, in which case they're hosed.
 
2014-01-05 06:30:15 PM
bluorangefyre:/though I'd love to see Leno finally do a US version of Top Gear that might be worth a damn
//the man knows his cars


He was offered and turned it down.  The declination letter is out in the tubes somewhere.  It basically says, "I enjoy cars because they're not work."

Steve Allen being forced off the show, Johhny being leaned on to retire.  Leno's manager ticking people off.  Letterman thinking he has the job then finding out he doesn't, then being offered the job.  Repeat with Leno and Conan.  Conan being replaced with Leno.  Leno being forced out for Fallon.  Paar was about the only one who didn't get screwed out of the job and that was probably because he was the only one who had the balls to stand up to the network (going so far as to walk out of the job for a month).
 
2014-01-05 07:56:19 PM
If Jimmy Fallon crashes and burns, maybe they could get Justin Timberlake to host.  I bet he would do great job, almost as good as Carson.
 
2014-01-05 07:59:44 PM
Maybe they could get Carlos Mencia to host if Jimmy Fallon doesn't work out. He's already good at stealing other peoples' material like Jay Leno.
 
2014-01-05 09:08:36 PM

Kyosuke: I guess I'm one of the few that think that Fallon is the closest thing to a new Carson in a long time. He's the only host I've seen in a while who goes out of his way to make the guests look good instead of competing with them.

I'm not that big of a fan, but I don't watch much network TV anymore. But what I've seen of him reminds me quite a bit of Carson.

/Old enough to have seen more Carson than any other late night host.


When Fallon started his hosting gig, he reminded me of the old time hosts. He had that look and that body language. I think an older demographic won't find him too offensive - until he does another History of Rap (which is awesome!).

I think Ferguson is very happy with his current gig. I've read that he'll stay around as long as Letterman does, but he's also said that he'll stay as long as Letterman wants him. Ferguson is easily the funniest host on television and a guy who gets his guests off-track (in a good way) very easily and not just plugging their latest project. I think it's because Ferguson is honest with himself - he knows he was a druggie and a drunk and freely admits it. I can't believe I didn't PVR his show until September of last year - I missed some great stuff.
 
2014-01-05 09:30:26 PM

hubcity: Eh, they forgot Ernie Kovacs again (Mondays & Tuesdays, 1956-57)


Came to say this, and leaving very impressed with Hubcity.
 
2014-01-05 09:36:03 PM

VibroCount: hubcity: Eh, they forgot Ernie Kovacs again (Mondays & Tuesdays, 1956-57)

Yup, and the hosts of Tonight! America After Dark, Jack Lescoulie and Al Collins, between Steve Allen/Ernie Kovacs and Jack Paar.


And impressed with Vibrocount as well!

mcmnky: hubcity: Eh, they forgot Ernie Kovacs again (Mondays & Tuesdays, 1956-57)

Have you seen late night tv lately? How can you say they forgot Kovacs when they're all doing his bits?

Maybe they didn't mention him, but if they forgot him they wouldn't have any material.


Kovacs was innovative and actually FUNNY, unlike the turds of today (I give Ferguson a pass - he's watchable most days).  No matter how many Kovacs fans complain about the Tonight Show's insistence at "forgetting" that Kovacs was ever a host, they never, ever include him.  And you are correct, without Kovacs, most of the video tricks and absurdity wouldn't have existed.
 
2014-01-05 09:43:41 PM
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2014-01-05 10:24:29 PM
roughridersfan:
When Fallon started his hosting gig, he reminded me of the old time hosts. He had that look and that body language. I think an older demographic won't find him too offensive - until he does another History of Rap (which is awesome!).

I don't think Middle America will warm up to The Roots as the Tonight Show band, though.
 
2014-01-05 10:54:33 PM
They should have ended the Tonight Show when Johnny Carson retired.
 
2014-01-05 11:38:06 PM

Kyosuke: I guess I'm one of the few that think that Fallon is the closest thing to a new Carson in a long time. He's the only host I've seen in a while who goes out of his way to make the guests look good instead of competing with them.

I'm not that big of a fan, but I don't watch much network TV anymore. But what I've seen of him reminds me quite a bit of Carson.

/Old enough to have seen more Carson than any other late night host.


The problem I have with Fallon is his over-the-top fake suck up delivery to every guest. Just tone it down, not everything a person says is knee slapping hilarious. I only watch his show for the silly games he plays; at least that can be funny at times.
 
2014-01-05 11:40:16 PM

mactheknife: NBC under Comcast is pulling the trigger on the deal that NBCUniversal started but couldn't bring themselves to finish - removing Jay Leno in favor of a host who could hold dominance in the 18/34 demographic.  They had it with O'Brien but lost in every other group, and panicked, so O'Brien got shuffled off to TBS.  This won't happen with Comcast in charge.

ABC is in the strongest potential position with Jimmy Kimmel.  They've set him up well for the target demos, and he's delivering them already.  Once Leno's gone, he immediately picks up some from NBC.  If he can hold that gained audience, it'll be interesting.

CBS is in the most perilous state.  Letterman's going to run as long as he wants to, which means CBS either has a deal in place that either (a) brings in Conan O'Brien to take over the Late Show, (b) brings in Jon Stewart to take over the Late Show, or (c) elevates Craig Ferguson to the show... or they have no plans at all, in which case they're hosed.


CBS has less control than the other networks, outside of cancellation. They don't own the Late Show. Worldwide Pants does.
 
2014-01-06 12:30:53 AM

rhiannon: Kyosuke: I guess I'm one of the few that think that Fallon is the closest thing to a new Carson in a long time. He's the only host I've seen in a while who goes out of his way to make the guests look good instead of competing with them.

I'm not that big of a fan, but I don't watch much network TV anymore. But what I've seen of him reminds me quite a bit of Carson.

/Old enough to have seen more Carson than any other late night host.

The problem I have with Fallon is his over-the-top fake suck up delivery to every guest. Just tone it down, not everything a person says is knee slapping hilarious. I only watch his show for the silly games he plays; at least that can be funny at times.


Yep. He does some good impressions and has a likable personality, but that's about it. He's not very sharp or witty and his rapport with guests is average at best. Fortunately for him I think the likable part is what the older folks care most about anyway, and that he goes out of his way to not be offensive like Leno.
 
2014-01-06 12:38:55 AM
I was a night owl as a kid, and I loved Tom Snyder's Tomorrow Show and it broke my heart when he got replaced by David Letterman so I refused to watch on principle. Eventually I realized I only had so many entertainment options so I grudgingly gave him a try and then I thought it was the greatest thing of all time! (well I think I hadn't seen Return of the Jedi yet). But man I loved Dave over the years, Larry Bud Melman's Toast on a Stick (which I think is an unironic actual product today) Chris Eliot, all the good times.

But I can't watch him now. I'm not sure why. It's like the soap operas from the 80s, they just never change. You know the joke before Dave bothers. Not to say I don't think the guy is pretty cool, but eh, his show is just stale.
 
2014-01-06 01:17:14 AM

RevMercutio: mactheknife: NBC under Comcast is pulling the trigger on the deal that NBCUniversal started but couldn't bring themselves to finish - removing Jay Leno in favor of a host who could hold dominance in the 18/34 demographic.  They had it with O'Brien but lost in every other group, and panicked, so O'Brien got shuffled off to TBS.  This won't happen with Comcast in charge.

ABC is in the strongest potential position with Jimmy Kimmel.  They've set him up well for the target demos, and he's delivering them already.  Once Leno's gone, he immediately picks up some from NBC.  If he can hold that gained audience, it'll be interesting.

CBS is in the most perilous state.  Letterman's going to run as long as he wants to, which means CBS either has a deal in place that either (a) brings in Conan O'Brien to take over the Late Show, (b) brings in Jon Stewart to take over the Late Show, or (c) elevates Craig Ferguson to the show... or they have no plans at all, in which case they're hosed.

CBS has less control than the other networks, outside of cancellation. They don't own the Late Show. Worldwide Pants does.


Don't kid yourself.  CBS controls the air.  WWP can be removed from the picture at any time if CBS ever wanted to fire Letterman.  They won't fire him, of course, but don't kid yourself:  in the end, the network controls.
 
2014-01-06 01:21:14 AM
Jimmy Fallon sucks. He's like a rich kid that got a Ferrari handed to him while he was still in high school.

His Tonight Show ratings will make Conan feel better. It won't matter though. 30 Rock proved that if a show is connected to Lorne Michaels and it has the correct people watching, it will stick around no matter what the ratings say.
 
2014-01-06 01:23:40 AM
Jon Stewart will never take over Late Show. Too divisive.

Give it to Ferg, he is hilarious.
 
2014-01-06 09:33:01 AM
 
2014-01-06 10:04:11 AM

Weatherkiss: Maybe they could get Carlos Mencia to host if Jimmy Fallon doesn't work out. He's already good at stealing other peoples' material like Jay Leno.


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2014-01-06 11:09:28 AM

Kyosuke: I guess I'm one of the few that think that Fallon is the closest thing to a new Carson in a long time. He's the only host I've seen in a while who goes out of his way to make the guests look good instead of competing with them.

I'm not that big of a fan, but I don't watch much network TV anymore. But what I've seen of him reminds me quite a bit of Carson.

/Old enough to have seen more Carson than any other late night host.


Put me in this camp as well. I don't know what exactly 'it' is, but Fallon has it. He is, quite simply, Carson-esque. I said last night during the retrospective that we'll be watching him for a long, long time on TTS. He's also great at all the social media stuff (read: the younger demographic), while being generally likable enough to curry favor with the nursing-home crowd. The problem is, for thirty-however-many odd years, there were only three channels to watch, and no such thing as time-shifting. And everyone watched the 11 o'clock news leading into late-night. Now there are SOOOO many other viewing options, and we get our news instantly several times throughout the day - I don't think Fallon is in trouble at all, but I think late-night in general is.

/Still think Conan got royally screwed, and was a stand-up guy (no pun intended) during all of it.
//IMHO; YMMV
/// in threes
 
2014-01-06 12:28:11 PM
IMO, there's a very good reason why the Tonight Show hasn't been any good since Carson retired. The Tonight Show was built to suit his strengths - he had great timing on his monologue, he could sell a cheaply produced sketch with one smirk, and his patented double takes and quick wit could make any interview gold.

Instead of picking a new host and building a new show around that person, they've tried to shoehorn in people to recreate what Johnny did better, so anyone in that seat will look second-rate. They'd be better off finding someone who is very funny and creative, and just letting them build something new.
 
2014-01-06 05:10:10 PM

peewinkle: *Sighs*

As if Leno wasn't bad enough, Fallon just isn't a funny host. He's awkward and seemingly dim-witted half of the time.  His writing is funny sometimes, but he's painful to watch when he has to think on his feet. They have completely wrecked the show since Johnny died. What's next, is Fox going to bring Arsenio back? Oh, wait...

/Give Henry Rollins a slot at 11:35.  Love him or hate him, he's smart, quick minded and is a great interviewer.
//Poor Conan.
///Ferguson is way funnier than Fallon


Any host that can do an epic lip-sync battle with Stephen Merchant and Joseph Gordon-Levitt absolutely deserves the show.  I wasn't a believer in Fallon at first, but after seeing this clip, I could only think "what took so long?"

Jimmy Fallon Lip-Sync Battle
 
2014-01-06 05:47:49 PM
A Tonight Show Host needs to be an old, slightly out of touch male.

Doesn't have to be white--Bill Cosby would kill it.

I think that's the appeal--a dude that you could stay up drinking and bullshiatting with.

Fallon is too young and hip.  it's not going to work--

Leno is perfect for the Tonight Show--great timing, delivery and doesn't give a fark.  Fallon is too eager to please--so is Conan.

Larry David could be great too.
 
2014-01-06 06:10:10 PM
The networks keep trying, but none of them will reclaim the late night crown. The Leno/Letterman audience is dying off, but new generations will not come to broadcast TV to replace them. They are already finding their entertainment elsewhere.

I personally find Fallon to be successful on YouTube where his musical bits and comedy skits work (or can easily be skipped), whereas on TV I find his monologues as dull as Leno's and his interviews unwatchable.
 
2014-01-06 06:17:08 PM
People who compare Fallon to Carson are...

Well, you're a lot like Corky from Life Goes On.
 
2014-01-06 09:02:08 PM

puffy999: People who compare Fallon to Carson are...

Well, you're a lot like Corky from Life Goes On.


I'm guessing you are not at all familiar with Carson's work.
 
2014-01-06 11:15:31 PM
I've liked Fallon since he was on SNL. Not a huge fan or anything, but he gave me some laughs, especially when paired with Horatio Sanz. Late Night has been alright with him as host, Conan is still my go to show if I had to pick, but Fallon has a good rapport with the guests, the in between stuff like sketches and games is hit and miss but whatever, and he attracts some decent bands to the show. He's watchable and I'm just happy that farking Jay Leno is going off the air. If I ever find myself scrolling around the TV late at night and there's nothing on but The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, I wouldn't be opposed to watching it for 20 minutes before I get tired and go to bed. Haven't said that about the Tonight Show in a long time save for the brief time Conan was there.
 
2014-01-07 03:01:49 AM
i'm gonna guess joan rivers hosted more often than kovachs.
 
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