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(Deadline)   Frozen is the #1 movie in America, overtaking derivative newcomer sequel Paranormal Activity 4B and The Hobbit 2: Smaug Boogaloo. Hustle and Flow and Wolf of Wall Street round out the top 5   (deadline.com) divider line 91
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2014-01-05 06:33:04 PM  

kukukupo: The Hobbit was awful - especially the stupid river scene (I won't elaborate or spoil).  There was so much crap added to this movie it seems like it was intentionally stretched so they could make a 3rd one.  (It didn't feel this stretched in the 1st movie)


I haven't seen the newest one and maybe it's because I had read the book first, but the first movie definitely felt padded and had odd pacing. It took them almost an hour just to make it through the first chapter of the book. After that it fared a bit better, but they were definitely trying to work way too much into the story.
 
2014-01-05 06:35:40 PM  

Fano: So, who exactly designed the "OS's" in the movie "Her," and to what purpose? Because I think a lot of programmers should be fired for it.

Also, we've gone from anti-farkbot propaganda like Cherry 2000 to a pro-compufarking movie like "Her." Hooray for turtle farking.


I think that it's an AI that grew out of its intended purpose. It's a sci-fi movie actually. Not a terrible original sci-fi movie but for anyone who has never read a sci-fi novel or saw an episode of Star Trek, it's smart.
 
2014-01-05 07:11:47 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: kukukupo: The Hobbit was awful - especially the stupid river scene (I won't elaborate or spoil).  There was so much crap added to this movie it seems like it was intentionally stretched so they could make a 3rd one.  (It didn't feel this stretched in the 1st movie)

I haven't seen the newest one and maybe it's because I had read the book first, but the first movie definitely felt padded and had odd pacing. It took them almost an hour just to make it through the first chapter of the book. After that it fared a bit better, but they were definitely trying to work way too much into the story.


They've admitted that they padded it out to 3 movies instead of the 2 that were originally planned. By the time it's over, the scripts for the 3 Hobbit movies will probably have more pages than the book.

Saw Hustle this weekend. Very entertaining. if not just for the chance to stare at Amy Adams in low-cut clothing for 2 and a half hours.

Checking out Wolf next weekend. Judging by the trailers, does anyone else get the impression that Scorsese really, really misses cocaine?
 
2014-01-05 07:12:03 PM  
Dug the 5th LoTR movie.
 
2014-01-05 07:23:01 PM  

Mugato: Fano: So, who exactly designed the "OS's" in the movie "Her," and to what purpose? Because I think a lot of programmers should be fired for it.

Also, we've gone from anti-farkbot propaganda like Cherry 2000 to a pro-compufarking movie like "Her." Hooray for turtle farking.

I think that it's an AI that grew out of its intended purpose. It's a sci-fi movie actually. Not a terrible original sci-fi movie but for anyone who has never read a sci-fi novel or saw an episode of Star Trek, it's smart.


I think it bothered me that the AI grew out of its intended purpose in the first 5 minutes. Did they not beta test this?
 
2014-01-05 07:24:06 PM  
I thought Olaf was hilarious, as did the rest of the audience. I was kind of surprised, tbh, as the trailer made him look insufferable.
 
2014-01-05 07:33:39 PM  

kukukupo: It has been a bad December.

The Hobbit was awful - especially the stupid river scene (I won't elaborate or spoil).  There was so much crap added to this movie it seems like it was intentionally stretched so they could make a 3rd one.  (It didn't feel this stretched in the 1st movie)

I wasn't big on Frozen.  Not a great flick.

47 Ronin was the only movie I saw that I left the theater not hating.  Of course - I didn't have any expectations - it looked awful.  It wasn't nearly as bad as the previews made it out to be - but it certainly isn't good.

Walter Mitty was pretty dull as well.

meh.

/When movies are only $4, you see a lot of them




I liked Walter Mitty. It was a sweet movie. Very non cynical and one you can share with your whole family. It wasn't great, but exactly as it was advertised.
 
2014-01-05 07:40:21 PM  

Mugato: Fano: So, who exactly designed the "OS's" in the movie "Her," and to what purpose? Because I think a lot of programmers should be fired for it.

Also, we've gone from anti-farkbot propaganda like Cherry 2000 to a pro-compufarking movie like "Her." Hooray for turtle farking.

I think that it's an AI that grew out of its intended purpose. It's a sci-fi movie actually. Not a terrible original sci-fi movie but for anyone who has never read a sci-fi novel or saw an episode of Star Trek, it's smart.




Actually, AI is one of my favorite Spielberg movies. The opening scene set the whole question of the movie-and answered it with devastating honesty.

It's incredibly a Kubrick film, in terms of story and structure. And like a. Kubrick film, it really needs multiple viewing to appreciate it.
 
2014-01-05 08:11:14 PM  

Apos: A mere $200K difference between the box office takes of The Wolf Of Wall Street and American Hustle? Huh. I'd hoped the margin would be wider, especially since the former was far more entertaining and, in fact, exceeded expectations. The latter....Not so much.


Its farking 3 hours long, most places have 2-3 less showings a day by comparison.

It was really good though, I didn't realize how long it was until it was almost over.
 
2014-01-05 08:16:49 PM  

steamingpile: Apos: A mere $200K difference between the box office takes of The Wolf Of Wall Street and American Hustle? Huh. I'd hoped the margin would be wider, especially since the former was far more entertaining and, in fact, exceeded expectations. The latter....Not so much.

Its farking 3 hours long, most places have 2-3 less showings a day by comparison.

It was really good though, I didn't realize how long it was until it was almost over.


Yep. American Hustle was 2:20, so that means over the course of the day, theaters had room for 1 more showing than Wolf of Wall Street.

That's why I didn't get it last week when people were calling Wolf Of Wall Street a failure. Flicks like this rely on word of mouth and staying power. I really don't think anyone was realistically expecting it to beat the Hobbit on its opening weekend. Peter Jackson's movies tend to be a little more family friendly than a 3-hour flick loaded with hookers, blow, and about 500 f-bombs.
 
2014-01-05 08:19:13 PM  

stoli n coke: steamingpile: Apos: A mere $200K difference between the box office takes of The Wolf Of Wall Street and American Hustle? Huh. I'd hoped the margin would be wider, especially since the former was far more entertaining and, in fact, exceeded expectations. The latter....Not so much.

Its farking 3 hours long, most places have 2-3 less showings a day by comparison.

It was really good though, I didn't realize how long it was until it was almost over.

Yep. American Hustle was 2:20, so that means over the course of the day, theaters had room for 1 more showing than Wolf of Wall Street.

That's why I didn't get it last week when people were calling Wolf Of Wall Street a failure. Flicks like this rely on word of mouth and staying power. I really don't think anyone was realistically expecting it to beat the Hobbit on its opening weekend. Peter Jackson's movies tend to be a little more family friendly than a 3-hour flick loaded with hookers, blow, and about 500 f-bombs.*


*Not including the no budget schlockfests Jackson did before he made it to American theaters.
 
2014-01-05 08:19:20 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Mugato: Fano: So, who exactly designed the "OS's" in the movie "Her," and to what purpose? Because I think a lot of programmers should be fired for it.

Also, we've gone from anti-farkbot propaganda like Cherry 2000 to a pro-compufarking movie like "Her." Hooray for turtle farking.

I think that it's an AI that grew out of its intended purpose. It's a sci-fi movie actually. Not a terrible original sci-fi movie but for anyone who has never read a sci-fi novel or saw an episode of Star Trek, it's smart.

Actually, AI is one of my favorite Spielberg movies. The opening scene set the whole question of the movie-and answered it with devastating honesty.

It's incredibly a Kubrick film, in terms of story and structure. And like a. Kubrick film, it really needs multiple viewing to appreciate it.


AI should have ended when they dumped the kid in the woods, imo.
 
2014-01-05 08:28:45 PM  

stoli n coke: steamingpile: Apos: A mere $200K difference between the box office takes of The Wolf Of Wall Street and American Hustle? Huh. I'd hoped the margin would be wider, especially since the former was far more entertaining and, in fact, exceeded expectations. The latter....Not so much.

Its farking 3 hours long, most places have 2-3 less showings a day by comparison.

It was really good though, I didn't realize how long it was until it was almost over.

Yep. American Hustle was 2:20, so that means over the course of the day, theaters had room for 1 more showing than Wolf of Wall Street.

That's why I didn't get it last week when people were calling Wolf Of Wall Street a failure. Flicks like this rely on word of mouth and staying power. I really don't think anyone was realistically expecting it to beat the Hobbit on its opening weekend. Peter Jackson's movies tend to be a little more family friendly than a 3-hour flick loaded with hookers, blow, and about 500 f-bombs.


Yeah I just verified it and saw most only had one less showing, still that's 150-250 people per day per theater that is lost. A nice chunk of money that's lost but its in no way a failure.

Still Dallas Buyers Club is my favorite of the month so far, it shows Matthew McConaughey can actually act and probably deserves the Oscar this year, I think the wife will cry if he doesn't win. Hell I didn't even recognize Jared Leto until after he was giving him a ride.
 
2014-01-05 08:30:06 PM  

skinink: Finally saw "Nebraska" this weekend. Great movie. The scene where the sons steal back their father's air compressor was funny, as well as their mother describing every woman she ever knew as whores.

Gene Masseth Jr.: If anybody wants to spoil Paranormal Activity 4 Part 2 for me please, go ahead.

Here you go. May be spoilers.


Time travel? Seriously?
 
2014-01-05 08:30:34 PM  
Derivative newcomer sequel? Wtf
 
2014-01-05 08:55:01 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: The range of emotion in Let It Go amazes me, I've not had a Disney song stuck in my head this long since, well, ever.


One might say "for the first time in forever".
 
2014-01-05 09:03:08 PM  

steamingpile: stoli n coke: steamingpile: Apos: A mere $200K difference between the box office takes of The Wolf Of Wall Street and American Hustle? Huh. I'd hoped the margin would be wider, especially since the former was far more entertaining and, in fact, exceeded expectations. The latter....Not so much.

Its farking 3 hours long, most places have 2-3 less showings a day by comparison.

It was really good though, I didn't realize how long it was until it was almost over.

Yep. American Hustle was 2:20, so that means over the course of the day, theaters had room for 1 more showing than Wolf of Wall Street.

That's why I didn't get it last week when people were calling Wolf Of Wall Street a failure. Flicks like this rely on word of mouth and staying power. I really don't think anyone was realistically expecting it to beat the Hobbit on its opening weekend. Peter Jackson's movies tend to be a little more family friendly than a 3-hour flick loaded with hookers, blow, and about 500 f-bombs.

Yeah I just verified it and saw most only had one less showing, still that's 150-250 people per day per theater that is lost. A nice chunk of money that's lost but its in no way a failure.

Still Dallas Buyers Club is my favorite of the month so far, it shows Matthew McConaughey can actually act and probably deserves the Oscar this year, I think the wife will cry if he doesn't win. Hell I didn't even recognize Jared Leto until after he was giving him a ride.


I missed that one in theaters, but it comes out on DVD next month. I've heard good things though. Apparently, Leto might be a lock for Supporting Actor.
 
2014-01-05 09:57:56 PM  

Fano: Mugato: Fano: So, who exactly designed the "OS's" in the movie "Her," and to what purpose? Because I think a lot of programmers should be fired for it.

Also, we've gone from anti-farkbot propaganda like Cherry 2000 to a pro-compufarking movie like "Her." Hooray for turtle farking.

I think that it's an AI that grew out of its intended purpose. It's a sci-fi movie actually. Not a terrible original sci-fi movie but for anyone who has never read a sci-fi novel or saw an episode of Star Trek, it's smart.

I think it bothered me that the AI grew out of its intended purpose in the first 5 minutes. Did they not beta test this?


I actually do both software engineering and filmmaking, it's not realistic in either realities.

/but pretty hot
//if it were in a holodeck
 
2014-01-05 11:04:22 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: kukukupo: The Hobbit was awful - especially the stupid river scene (I won't elaborate or spoil).  There was so much crap added to this movie it seems like it was intentionally stretched so they could make a 3rd one.  (It didn't feel this stretched in the 1st movie)

I haven't seen the newest one and maybe it's because I had read the book first, but the first movie definitely felt padded and had odd pacing. It took them almost an hour just to make it through the first chapter of the book. After that it fared a bit better, but they were definitely trying to work way too much into the story.


This one took what felt like half an hour to show step by step how the dwarves were smuggled into Lake Town, which really didn't add much to developing the story or the characters aside from introducing that town's version of Wormtongue.

Plus, they somehow made a giant dragon voiced by Cumberbatch kind of dull, maybe because of the massive amount of monologuing from Smaug. It reminded me if some of the Transformers movies where the action scenes were so dragged out that the spectacle got dull. Sometimes more isn't more.
 
2014-01-05 11:45:36 PM  
The Hobbit was fun to watch as long as I repressed all thought of the source material and pretended it was an original fantasy movie. Better paced than the first one, and without quite so many logic-defying escapes (seriously, the distance the dwarves fell in the goblin caves -- their bones would have had to be made of titanium to walk away from that). I didn't care for the Lake Town as a proto-Stalinist hellhole, though. Why are we supposed to be concerned about Smaug wiping out the Lake Towners if every one of them except Bard is either a greedy dictator or low-level spy?

Frozen was a lot of fun and much, much better than I expected from the trailers.
 
2014-01-06 12:43:19 AM  

meyerkev: blackminded: meyerkev: Anne.Uumellmahaye: As the mom of two littles I'd like to take this opportunity to say that Frozen sucked ass and I'm dreading whatever holiday it comes out on DVD and pre-cursing whichever farking relative of mine will buy it for my kids.

Are you kidding?  It was awesome hearing the shocked silence of a movie theater full of kids when the big twist happens.

/I liked it a lot.
//And where do I go to turn in my man card?

*reads the Wikipedia synopsis*

[daaaaaamn.jpg]

And that would have been an AMAZING twist even if it hadn't been Disney, but it's FREAKING DISNEY.  Where people fall in "twue wove" over the course of a single song.  And then *daaaaaamn*.

/Oh, and the annoying "funny joke character" was actually funny.  So you know, kudos for that.


I thought the snowman obsessed with warm weather was a great schtick.

"bees, they'll buzz
kids will blow dandelion fuzz
and I'll be doing
whatever snow does in suuummmmeeeeeeer!"

/why yes, my daughter is playing that nonstop, why do you ask?
 
2014-01-06 12:45:03 AM  

GreyhoundAggie: We were pretty disappointed with Frozen. The songs were pretty weak for the most part.

I thought Tangled was much better from the same studio. The soundtracks and how enjoyable each movie was is a night and day difference.


I have to agree tangled was probably better.

I still think Brave was the better of the three, though I have a soft spot for Pixar.  Brave seemed a bit darker though.
 
2014-01-06 12:50:11 AM  

the opposite of charity is justice: Frozen is a weird thumbs-up for me because even being fully aware of its numerous flaws the parts that work manage to work so spectacularly well as to largely gloss over those flaws.

The range of emotion in Let It Go amazes me, I've not had a Disney song stuck in my head this long since, well, ever.


the song recorded for the movie is a different one than the one released by demi lovato.  demi's is inferior, IMHO.
 
2014-01-06 12:53:04 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Mugato: Fano: So, who exactly designed the "OS's" in the movie "Her," and to what purpose? Because I think a lot of programmers should be fired for it.

Also, we've gone from anti-farkbot propaganda like Cherry 2000 to a pro-compufarking movie like "Her." Hooray for turtle farking.

I think that it's an AI that grew out of its intended purpose. It's a sci-fi movie actually. Not a terrible original sci-fi movie but for anyone who has never read a sci-fi novel or saw an episode of Star Trek, it's smart.

Actually, AI is one of my favorite Spielberg movies. The opening scene set the whole question of the movie-and answered it with devastating honesty.

It's incredibly a Kubrick film, in terms of story and structure. And like a. Kubrick film, it really needs multiple viewing to appreciate it.


it ended 15 minutes too late.  the whole alien thing should have been cut out.
 
2014-01-06 01:02:15 AM  

rga184: Darth_Lukecash: Mugato: Fano: So, who exactly designed the "OS's" in the movie "Her," and to what purpose? Because I think a lot of programmers should be fired for it.

Also, we've gone from anti-farkbot propaganda like Cherry 2000 to a pro-compufarking movie like "Her." Hooray for turtle farking.

I think that it's an AI that grew out of its intended purpose. It's a sci-fi movie actually. Not a terrible original sci-fi movie but for anyone who has never read a sci-fi novel or saw an episode of Star Trek, it's smart.

Actually, AI is one of my favorite Spielberg movies. The opening scene set the whole question of the movie-and answered it with devastating honesty.

It's incredibly a Kubrick film, in terms of story and structure. And like a. Kubrick film, it really needs multiple viewing to appreciate it.

it ended 15 minutes too late.  the whole alien thing should have been cut out.


They weren't aliens, they were post-human AIs rediscovering their creators after humans died off.
 
2014-01-06 03:29:08 AM  

HempHead: /saw Wolf of Wallstreet, I think every farker would appreciate all of the Quaalude scenes.


Noooooo Gitttt offfffff!   Gitoffadafone!
Iiiiimonnnnndafffone!
 
2014-01-06 05:06:01 AM  
So the nice prince really isn't.  Interesting twist, but by making it a twist, the whole first half of the movie feels sloppily written, a slapped together love story. With no hint of the twist, it wasn't an entertaining relationship and, combined with appearance of the snowman, I stopped watching.  Seems they exaggerated the ridiculous 3 minute betrothal to make the twist work, when it didn't have to be a twist.  A twist needs to be clever and meaninful, and this sounds like current-day Shyamalan.

Let it Go is a fantastic song, and I love Mendel's version, but the rest of the music doesn't compare.  At the very least keep that clip in rotation.

http://youtu.be/moSFlvxnbgk
 
2014-01-06 07:46:07 AM  
You know those parents whose kids screw up, set fire to neighbors' pets and impregnate underage runaways, but they never punish their children for their bad behavior? This is how I imagine people who see the "Paranormal Activity" movies.

I know, I know, "stop liking what I don't like." Sorry, but you like shiat.
 
2014-01-06 09:40:02 AM  

RenownedCurator: The Hobbit was fun to watch as long as I repressed all thought of the source material and pretended it was an original fantasy movie. Better paced than the first one, and without quite so many logic-defying escapes (seriously, the distance the dwarves fell in the goblin caves -- their bones would have had to be made of titanium to walk away from that). I didn't care for the Lake Town as a proto-Stalinist hellhole, though. Why are we supposed to be concerned about Smaug wiping out the Lake Towners if every one of them except Bard is either a greedy dictator or low-level spy?


Because he has young children. I'm convinced that's the only reason they were added to the story. (Plus it let them add more female characters to the movie.)

Regarding the titanium bones thing, that's the good part about a fantasy movie. Suspending your disbelief is easy. Some traumatic event occurs where (illogically) every main character survives unharmed or only mildly shaken, and I can just think to myself, "oh, a wizard did it." And yep, there was a wizard there the whole time.

Just because we didn't see him cast a "Feather Fall" spell doesn't mean he didn't. Wizards don't like gravity/physics/combustion to do anything without their "help". As a child, I would have glossed right over all the dwarf battering and elf gymnastics in the movie without even noticing how improbable they all were. As an adult, I have to consciously remind myself that it's all heroic and magical (beyond the limits of human endurance or ability) on purpose.
 
2014-01-06 10:31:41 AM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: As the mom of two littles I'd like to take this opportunity to say that Frozen sucked ass and I'm dreading whatever holiday it comes out on DVD and pre-cursing whichever farking relative of mine will buy it for my kids.


Why the hostility?  I thought the movie was awesome and my kid loved it.  I liked the fact that "true love" winds up being something you do and work at rather than an innate quality in someone you simply need to deus ex into.
 
2014-01-06 10:34:56 AM  
Watched Hobbit 2 again yesterday.  Good film.  I'm OK with most of Jackson's changes but felt he rushed thru Mirkwood.  Oh and there was too much of dwarfs running around in Erebor, they should have went straight for their plan.
 
2014-01-06 11:19:27 AM  
I enjoyed Frozen slightly more than the Amy Adams sideboob bi-hour.  Neither movie is worth seeing at the theater.
 
2014-01-06 11:49:21 AM  

bill4935: RenownedCurator: The Hobbit was fun to watch as long as I repressed all thought of the source material and pretended it was an original fantasy movie. Better paced than the first one, and without quite so many logic-defying escapes (seriously, the distance the dwarves fell in the goblin caves -- their bones would have had to be made of titanium to walk away from that). I didn't care for the Lake Town as a proto-Stalinist hellhole, though. Why are we supposed to be concerned about Smaug wiping out the Lake Towners if every one of them except Bard is either a greedy dictator or low-level spy?

Because he has young children. I'm convinced that's the only reason they were added to the story. (Plus it let them add more female characters to the movie.)

Regarding the titanium bones thing, that's the good part about a fantasy movie. Suspending your disbelief is easy. Some traumatic event occurs where (illogically) every main character survives unharmed or only mildly shaken, and I can just think to myself, "oh, a wizard did it." And yep, there was a wizard there the whole time.

Just because we didn't see him cast a "Feather Fall" spell doesn't mean he didn't. Wizards don't like gravity/physics/combustion to do anything without their "help". As a child, I would have glossed right over all the dwarf battering and elf gymnastics in the movie without even noticing how improbable they all were. As an adult, I have to consciously remind myself that it's all heroic and magical (beyond the limits of human endurance or ability) on purpose.


People forget that it's elves, dwarves and orcs we're talking about, not humans. Who's to say these types of things are not possible for them?  Frankly, one of the problems with Tolkein "history" is that the elves are almost always vastly outnumbered by the orcs but manage to defeat them anyway time and time again.  There has to be something innate to them that makes this possible.
 
2014-01-06 11:52:06 AM  

bark_atda_moon: I enjoyed Frozen slightly more than the Amy Adams sideboob bi-hour.  Neither movie is worth seeing at the theater.


I'd say Frozen is worth a theater watch, the art and animation are incredible, and look amazing on the big screen. I've not seen Wolf to judge.
 
2014-01-06 12:32:52 PM  

Persnickety: Frankly, one of the problems with Tolkein "history" is that the elves are almost always vastly outnumbered by the orcs but manage to defeat them anyway time and time again.  There has to be something innate to them that makes this possible.


Keeping in mind that it's been a while since I cared about the nitty-gritty of Tolkien:

* Weren't the orcs explicitly fallen, bastardized elves?
* Longbows == Haxxors in medieval battles:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Agincourthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crecyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Poitiers.  They're a royal pain to train for (If you want a longbowman, start with his grandfather), but haxxors.
 
2014-01-06 02:50:13 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: As the mom of two littles I'd like to take this opportunity to say that Frozen sucked ass and I'm dreading whatever holiday it comes out on DVD and pre-cursing whichever farking relative of mine will buy it for my kids.


Do what my parents did. I saw maybe two Disney animated movies my whole life. I saw Pinochio and The Fox and the Hound. They sucked. I was raised on Star Wars, Raiders, Alien, Jaws, etc. I can't stand animated movies to this day.
 
2014-01-06 03:05:27 PM  

Mugato: Anne.Uumellmahaye: As the mom of two littles I'd like to take this opportunity to say that Frozen sucked ass and I'm dreading whatever holiday it comes out on DVD and pre-cursing whichever farking relative of mine will buy it for my kids.

Do what my parents did. I saw maybe two Disney animated movies my whole life. I saw Pinochio and The Fox and the Hound. They sucked. I was raised on Star Wars, Raiders, Alien, Jaws, etc. I can't stand animated movies to this day.


(Sassy southern accent) You were brought up right.

We just watched Raiders this morning. They took it quite well for 4 year olds. LIKE MEN.
 
2014-01-06 03:46:02 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: We just watched Raiders this morning. They took it quite well for 4 year olds. LIKE MEN.


I watched it about that age. I have a crippling fear of snakes now but it's not necessarily from that. Better than being raised on  Elton John or Billy Joel or whoever the fark singing as cartoon animals.
 
2014-01-06 07:32:10 PM  

Anne.Uumellmahaye: As the mom of two littles I'd like to take this opportunity to say that Frozen sucked ass and I'm dreading whatever holiday it comes out on DVD and pre-cursing whichever farking relative of mine will buy it for my kids.


I dont know who hurt you, but i hope you get better some day, and learn to love the best animated movie in some years
 
2014-01-07 12:55:51 AM  

Persnickety: bill4935: RenownedCurator: The Hobbit was fun to watch as long as I repressed all thought of the source material and pretended it was an original fantasy movie. Better paced than the first one, and without quite so many logic-defying escapes (seriously, the distance the dwarves fell in the goblin caves -- their bones would have had to be made of titanium to walk away from that). I didn't care for the Lake Town as a proto-Stalinist hellhole, though. Why are we supposed to be concerned about Smaug wiping out the Lake Towners if every one of them except Bard is either a greedy dictator or low-level spy?

Because he has young children. I'm convinced that's the only reason they were added to the story. (Plus it let them add more female characters to the movie.)

Regarding the titanium bones thing, that's the good part about a fantasy movie. Suspending your disbelief is easy. Some traumatic event occurs where (illogically) every main character survives unharmed or only mildly shaken, and I can just think to myself, "oh, a wizard did it." And yep, there was a wizard there the whole time.

Just because we didn't see him cast a "Feather Fall" spell doesn't mean he didn't. Wizards don't like gravity/physics/combustion to do anything without their "help". As a child, I would have glossed right over all the dwarf battering and elf gymnastics in the movie without even noticing how improbable they all were. As an adult, I have to consciously remind myself that it's all heroic and magical (beyond the limits of human endurance or ability) on purpose.

People forget that it's elves, dwarves and orcs we're talking about, not humans. Who's to say these types of things are not possible for them?  Frankly, one of the problems with Tolkein "history" is that the elves are almost always vastly outnumbered by the orcs but manage to defeat them anyway time and time again.  There has to be something innate to them that makes this possible.


Fair enough -- elves are immortal unless they're killed and dwarves can easily make 250 years old, so it makes sense that they're made of pretty tough material. (I did enjoy the moment where Legolas is astounded to realize that he has a nosebleed. Obviously doesn't happen often). I think part of it for me is just getting annoyed with Jackson's propensity for putting enormous, horrifying falls (or potential falls) into situations which didn't have them originally and were already tense enough without them. And yeah, I can see him thinking he has to make us care about the Lake Towners and writing in Bard's children as a fix to that.
 
2014-01-07 12:58:08 AM  

Mugato: Anne.Uumellmahaye: As the mom of two littles I'd like to take this opportunity to say that Frozen sucked ass and I'm dreading whatever holiday it comes out on DVD and pre-cursing whichever farking relative of mine will buy it for my kids.

Do what my parents did. I saw maybe two Disney animated movies my whole life. I saw Pinochio and The Fox and the Hound. They sucked. I was raised on Star Wars, Raiders, Alien, Jaws, etc. I can't stand animated movies to this day.


Oh look, the guy  who thinks if it's animated, it's automatically for kids. (Not saying Frozen isn't, although I wouldn't qualify it as "kids movie" either, but family movie).
 
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