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2014-01-05 12:42:03 PM

haywatchthis: are those 39 people that oded and  died yesterday doing ok


cdn2-b.examiner.com

They got better.
 
2014-01-05 12:42:24 PM

haywatchthis: are those 39 people that oded and  died yesterday doing ok


Ya, they found out it was all just a dream.
 
2014-01-05 12:44:30 PM

Stone Meadow: Yakk: The only way this stops is if the Feds crush it before it spreads to other states.

The likelihood of which is rapidly diminishing towards zero. The Administration had publically stated that they will honor states' wishes wrt pot so long as they go through a formal legalization process and put appropriate (read alcohol-style) public safeguards in place. This is the Conservative agenda Mr Obama is so good at exploiting. If, OTOH, he were now to reverse himself the GOP would hang him from the nearest telephone pole (insert lynching puns here). The Democrats have more important fights to win, as do the GOP, so this is largely a non-issue for both sides, as neither can afford the distraction.

This is the real beauty of the Administration's approach. They want pot to go away as a legal issue, and have figured out that the best way to do so is to let it become a states' issue. Colorado and Washington are going to pave the way for more states to follow suit, which they will do in a landslide, and one day soon the Hillary Administration will simply reschedule pot, allowing states to make up their own minds about it. That is pretty much what the repeal of Prohibition did in '33. Some states legalized all alcohol the same day (or VERY soon), which others maintained Prohibition into the 60's.


Indiana will probably try to amend the state constitution to keep marijuana illegal in perpetuity.
 
2014-01-05 12:44:53 PM

ausfahrk: RogermcAllen: Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.

You poor simple man.

Ingredients: 5 gallons of applejuice (~$15), a $0.75 packet of yeast, 1 pound of sugar (~$1.5), Hinkley water bottle (free, or maybe ~$10 if it comes full of water), a piece of aluminum foil (essentially free)
Total cost: ~$18-25
Yield: 5 gallons of delicious 9% ABV dignity (also pants) remover

1.  Dump out the water
2.  Pour half of the apple juice (each bottle of juice should be half empty) into the Hinkley bottle
3.  Divide the sugar amongst the half empty juice bottles
4.  Shake juice bottles until sugar is dissolved
5.  Pour yeast into hinkley bottle
6.  Pour remaining apple juice into hinkley bottle
7.  Cap with foil
8.  Let sit in a cool place in your basement until you can read a newspaper through the hinkley bottle (~a month of waiting).
9.  Get farked up


Wait, I just paid 10% sales tax on the water, the apple juice, the yeast, and the sugar, plus I had to go to the damn store to get them.  Plus I don't have a basement and haven't seen a newspaper since about 2009.


Also, it's the wrong kind of yeast. Bread yeast tastes like shiat.

That guy also didn't tell you about racking. Enjoy your million tons of lees in the bottom.

No disinfection step. Bacterial infection (just ruins flavor)

Basement, not temperature. Hope your basement isn't too warm/cold and ruins the ferment.

Talk about a shiatty recipe.
 
2014-01-05 12:47:19 PM
Whatever happened to get enough signatures on a ballot and demand White House response/action?
 
2014-01-05 12:47:45 PM

Smoking GNU: born_yesterday: Good job, Colorado. I hope you like seeing all those used syringes everywhere.

This post makes no sense whatsoever.


I laughed.
 
2014-01-05 12:48:57 PM

Smoking GNU: Oblig?


Damn, the GIF!  I think I was at that party!  No wonder my head hurt the next morning.  Then again, maybe not.
 
2014-01-05 12:49:25 PM

RogermcAllen: Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.

You poor simple man.

Ingredients: 5 gallons of applejuice (~$15), a $0.75 packet of yeast, 1 pound of sugar (~$1.5), Hinkley water bottle (free, or maybe ~$10 if it comes full of water), a piece of aluminum foil (essentially free)
Total cost: ~$18-25
Yield: 5 gallons of delicious 9% ABV dignity (also pants) remover

1.  Dump out the water
2.  Pour half of the apple juice (each bottle of juice should be half empty) into the Hinkley bottle
3.  Divide the sugar amongst the half empty juice bottles
4.  Shake juice bottles until sugar is dissolved
5.  Pour yeast into hinkley bottle
6.  Pour remaining apple juice into hinkley bottle
7.  Cap with foil
8.  Let sit in a cool place in your basement until you can read a newspaper through the hinkley bottle (~a month of waiting).
9.  Get farked up


That foil cap isn't going to vent your off-gasses. I'd say use a proper fermentation bucket or a carboy, with an airlock.
 
2014-01-05 12:50:36 PM

QuesoDelicioso: RogermcAllen: Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.

You poor simple man.

Ingredients: 5 gallons of applejuice (~$15), a $0.75 packet of yeast, 1 pound of sugar (~$1.5), Hinkley water bottle (free, or maybe ~$10 if it comes full of water), a piece of aluminum foil (essentially free)
Total cost: ~$18-25
Yield: 5 gallons of delicious 9% ABV dignity (also pants) remover

1.  Dump out the water
2.  Pour half of the apple juice (each bottle of juice should be half empty) into the Hinkley bottle
3.  Divide the sugar amongst the half empty juice bottles
4.  Shake juice bottles until sugar is dissolved
5.  Pour yeast into hinkley bottle
6.  Pour remaining apple juice into hinkley bottle
7.  Cap with foil
8.  Let sit in a cool place in your basement until you can read a newspaper through the hinkley bottle (~a month of waiting).
9.  Get farked up

That foil cap isn't going to vent your off-gasses. I'd say use a proper fermentation bucket or a carboy, with an airlock.


And with bread yeast THERE WILL BE GASSES.
 
2014-01-05 12:51:06 PM

mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.


Growing good pot is a full time job. It isnt an easy endeavour
 
2014-01-05 12:51:21 PM

jj325: mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.

That's how the home brewers put Budweiser out of business

/Americans are happy to pay for convenience


I am not sure the $10 beer is worth the convenience.
Oh? Blink your eyes and click your heels, see, price went up already.
 
2014-01-05 12:52:41 PM

SumoJeb: mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.

Growing good pot is a full time job. It isnt an easy endeavour


Only difference between cultivation and kids is, pot naps regular.
So I am told,,,
 
2014-01-05 12:53:31 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Nightjars: thismomentinblackhistory: It is illegal to possess, buy, sell, or consume marijuana until very recently.

If you enjoy juxtaposing reckless endangerment with a victimless crime involving personal choice, then by all means, do so.  Most people don't see the connection, because most people know that the analogy is stupid.

The laws the law son.


Tell the to wall street pal.
 
2014-01-05 12:56:22 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: thismomentinblackhistory: Nightjars: thismomentinblackhistory: It is illegal to possess, buy, sell, or consume marijuana until very recently.

If you enjoy juxtaposing reckless endangerment with a victimless crime involving personal choice, then by all means, do so.  Most people don't see the connection, because most people know that the analogy is stupid.

The laws the law son.

Tell the to wall street pal.


Don't bro me if you don't know me!
 
2014-01-05 01:00:22 PM

doglover: QuesoDelicioso: RogermcAllen: Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.

You poor simple man.

Ingredients: 5 gallons of applejuice (~$15), a $0.75 packet of yeast, 1 pound of sugar (~$1.5), Hinkley water bottle (free, or maybe ~$10 if it comes full of water), a piece of aluminum foil (essentially free)
Total cost: ~$18-25
Yield: 5 gallons of delicious 9% ABV dignity (also pants) remover

1.  Dump out the water
2.  Pour half of the apple juice (each bottle of juice should be half empty) into the Hinkley bottle
3.  Divide the sugar amongst the half empty juice bottles
4.  Shake juice bottles until sugar is dissolved
5.  Pour yeast into hinkley bottle
6.  Pour remaining apple juice into hinkley bottle
7.  Cap with foil
8.  Let sit in a cool place in your basement until you can read a newspaper through the hinkley bottle (~a month of waiting).
9.  Get farked up

That foil cap isn't going to vent your off-gasses. I'd say use a proper fermentation bucket or a carboy, with an airlock.

And with bread yeast THERE WILL BE GASSES.


That's what bread yeast is tailored for. Gas production, to make the bread rise.
 
2014-01-05 01:01:45 PM
As a Coloradan, this is probably a step in the right direction, but it's way too soon because...

1) As pointed out elsewhere, there's no reliable test for current THC intoxication for DUI or workplace issues.  I'm hoping that a precedent will be set where the presence of marijuana or pipes, open and in the passenger compartment == legal DUI.  And more effort needs to be put into roadside tests which specifically aim for the marijuana high.

2) Current laws do little to protect people living in shared-wall dwellings.  If Stoney McPothead sets up a six plant grow op on the other side of my wall, my apartment will smell like ass, and anybody with a weed allergy (they're out there, and will increase) will be forced to move.  Not to mention the mold and other unpleasantness which comes with a grow.

3) Apartment complexes are currently hamstrung.  Right now, it's not legal to close a building or complex to smokers.  So if a wake-and-bake smoker sets up next door, there's nothing to do for the fact that you're basically now a pot-smoker, and may not pass hair tests for work and are farked if you're asthmatic or have COPD.  Now that there are so many non-smoked forms available, make smoking in a shared-wall residence illegal and evictable.  And make smoker status a non-protected class for housing.  If you want to go Cheech, rent a house.

4) "Medical" marijuana is not yet dead. Let's drop the medical charade (and the paperwork, HIPAA, etc) so we're not wasting taxes on keeping up a no-longer-needed fantasy.  If a doctor can tell you to have a glass of wine, they can tell you to go buy a joint from Stoney's World-of-Dependency.  Let's quit pretending.

5) Public smoking enforcement is lax.  Weed is an area-of-effect drug.  Some jackass smoking up in front of my building means I walk into work smelling like weed.  If you need to get high to get through your day, there are non-smoked ways.  I'm hoping there's at least a huge stigma on public smoking.  Concerts, particularly, are terrible in Colorado, and just got worse.  COPD or Asthma?  Hope you've got a stereo.

6) Employer protection is inadequate.  I don't know of any case-law dealing with people showing up to work stoned in a legal-pot world.  Presumably people can still get fired (and CO is an at-will state), but I'd like to see hair-testing made explicitly OK as part of this.  Just because it's legal doesn't mean we want crane operators doing it, and "...but-but-but weekend smoking!" is a shiatty excuse.  You always have a choice: High, or Job.

7) There's little regulation regarding smoking in a house with kids.  Secondhand-smoking-up your kids is as farked up as making them drink.  Hopefully Child Protective Services will get involved here, and will develop policies.

8) There's been no effort paid to highlighting treatment or counseling for people with psychological dependencies on pot.  It's not addictive in the same way as coke or booze, I know, but there are lots of people (my own parents among them) who can't get through the day without smoking every few hours.  These people need help in the same way people with booze problems need help.  Nobody's focused on that. Just "DUDE!  IT'S LEGAL!  SMOKE UP BRAH!".  This is likely because...

9) Social change hasn't caught up yet.  Right now, if you drink when you wake up, you're an alcoholic.  If you smoke when you wake up, it's your lifestyle, dude.  We've spent so long thinking "Weed is evil" that we're now thinking "Weed is good".  No, it's neither.  It's something that can be fun for some people, be unnecessary for many others, and be a big problem for others still.  Until we acknowledge that much like booze, it's not a culture, it's not a lifestyle, it's not Satan, it's just a drug, our social views of it will be farked.

As I said, it's a step in the right direction in terms of drug policy, will ruin the cartels' day, and they're working on regulations, but it's just way too soon.  Hopefully, with time, those who need to get high will start going edible and tincture to remove the negative effects on others, but in the mean time, I pity those with Asthma/COPD/Pot Allergies, and wish them luck finding a new state for the next 3-5 years.
 
2014-01-05 01:02:04 PM
should have bought land in colorado instead of tennessee
 
2014-01-05 01:03:54 PM

teenage mutant ninja rapist: thismomentinblackhistory: Nightjars: thismomentinblackhistory: It is illegal to possess, buy, sell, or consume marijuana until very recently.

If you enjoy juxtaposing reckless endangerment with a victimless crime involving personal choice, then by all means, do so.  Most people don't see the connection, because most people know that the analogy is stupid.

The laws the law son.

Tell the to wall street pal.


Patience Grasshopper,,,
There is more than enough money currently in the Black Pot Market to qualify for Too Big To Jail.
And, it needs redistribution.
If we could get POUSA and Congress's bribes stopped, happy happy happy would ensue.
 
2014-01-05 01:10:07 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.

Some employers have been starting to prohibit nicotine use, not just at work, but at all, and personally, I think that's a major imposition on individual rights.  Of course, with how smokers are vilified in this country, there hasn't been much of a fight about it.  The nice thing about the MJ movement is that it has a lot of momentum and righteous fury behind it, so I could see (and would love to see) a push for legislation barring employers for taking adverse action against employees for any off-the-clock legal substance use.

That of course brings up the need for a reliable, quick, and affordable test to show active THC intoxication, just as we need for pot DUI purposes.  Getting stoned the night before work shouldn't be a problem, getting stoned on your lunch break should.


This is what I was thinking, I mean in my line of work there is no drug testing, I own rental property - most my employees drink and smoke weed, I frankly don't care as long as they don't drive - most of them however don't operate lawnmowers or play with electrical work, thats the work I do.
Sure I can kick back a few tall boys and go play on a lawnmower, the results however I could end up on fark for losing my life from being a dumbass.

When I worked for a software company in Tampa, FL - they started doing on site drug and alcohol testing, I kid you not the first row of cubicals they tested someone was drunk as a skunk. Most that worked here did tech support for AOL or Microsoft, it was a very stressful job - we generally only worked 40 minutes an hour with two 10 minute breaks in between (unless you were on a call). I honestly didn't mind the testing, I never showed up drunk or high in my life - to work, however I was bitten by the drug testing after I got a two week vacation and did some Herb and was fired when I was drug tested.

This is the only thing that strikes me, whether they can do THC intoxication, doesn't matter what someone did two weeks ago, but on that monday morning if you are going to fire someone who spoked MJ two weeks ago, somethings farked up.
I wasn't even notified about the testing, what they did was each team leader was told to send his group to an office, and everyone in the office was questioned one by one, each had to agree to take the drug test or be fired.
While I don't agree with this, they could of told me this crap when I was hired, but honestly I wasn't planning on doing tech support for very long, thankfully they fired me and I went to buy my own business rather then deal with the shirt and tie lifestyle.
 
2014-01-05 01:10:35 PM

Tenga: I don't have any experience with quantities as small as an eighth. How many pencil width joints is that? If it's at least 4, especially for 1 hit shiat, is say it's worth the $40.


I don't roll joints, but I'd guesstimate that an eighth will get you around 8 joints. By doing the math: if your joint is 0.5 g of weed, and an eighth is 3.6 g, that gives you 7 joints total. So yeah, probably closer to 6-7 j's.

/glass pipe all the way
 
2014-01-05 01:12:50 PM

wanderfowl: As a Coloradan, this is probably a step in the right direction, but it's way too soon because...

1) As pointed out elsewhere, there's no reliable test for current THC intoxication for DUI or workplace issues.  I'm hoping that a precedent will be set where the presence of marijuana or pipes, open and in the passenger compartment == legal DUI.  And more effort needs to be put into roadside tests which specifically aim for the marijuana high.

2) Current laws do little to protect people living in shared-wall dwellings.  If Stoney McPothead sets up a six plant grow op on the other side of my wall, my apartment will smell like ass, and anybody with a weed allergy (they're out there, and will increase) will be forced to move.  Not to mention the mold and other unpleasantness which comes with a grow.

3) Apartment complexes are currently hamstrung.  Right now, it's not legal to close a building or complex to smokers.  So if a wake-and-bake smoker sets up next door, there's nothing to do for the fact that you're basically now a pot-smoker, and may not pass hair tests for work and are farked if you're asthmatic or have COPD.  Now that there are so many non-smoked forms available, make smoking in a shared-wall residence illegal and evictable.  And make smoker status a non-protected class for housing.  If you want to go Cheech, rent a house.

4) "Medical" marijuana is not yet dead. Let's drop the medical charade (and the paperwork, HIPAA, etc) so we're not wasting taxes on keeping up a no-longer-needed fantasy.  If a doctor can tell you to have a glass of wine, they can tell you to go buy a joint from Stoney's World-of-Dependency.  Let's quit pretending.

5) Public smoking enforcement is lax.  Weed is an area-of-effect drug.  Some jackass smoking up in front of my building means I walk into work smelling like weed.  If you need to get high to get through your day, there are non-smoked ways.  I'm hoping there's at least a huge stigma on public smoking.  Concerts, particularly, ...


For driving, I could see the rules being similar to current open container laws for alcohol.  If you have a bag of pot and a pipe in the glovebox, trunk, or somewhere else where it's not usable while driving, fine, if you have the pipe and baggy of weed in your cupholder, that's an issue.

Most of the public smoking issues should be covered by laws already covering cigarette smoking.  Pot shouldn't be any more of a problem for those people than cigarettes currently are.

Walking past someone smoking marijuana isn't going to leave you smelling like marijuana.  If you're inhaling enough second-hand smoke through the vents in your apartment complex to set off a drug test, you live in a shiatty apartment with very poor ventilation.

Employers already have too much power, what we need are better protections for employee rights.  I agree with you that I wouldn't want a crane operator or bus driver smoking weed on the job, but I don't care if they smoke it on the evenings or weekends when they're not at work.  We need a test that shows active THC intoxication, not just evidence of use at some indeterminate point in the past.  It absolutely should not be someone having the choose between keeping their job or being able to use the now legal marijuana - there needs to be legislation protecting the right use it recreationally outside of work and effective testing to prevent its use at work.
 
2014-01-05 01:13:38 PM
Living in Colorado and being a smoker I have a lot of easy and cheap connections.  Some of the stuff folk grow here is amazing.  A friend of mine has a few plants of something called Nigerian Nightmare.  It is purple.  Not purple threads, the entire bud (other than electric orange hairs) is deep, black, purple.  It is definitely a melt in to your couch bud.  

That being said, I don't see myself growing.  I've always had the ability to do so.  I have the space in my house, ready access to clones, and the help/advice from friends who have been doing it for decades.  It is a bit more complex than folk allow for though.  When friends were away I would pop in to their house and tend their crops.  It was like pet sitting.  Show up twice a day to take the plants out for a walk, so to speak.  I will, more than likely, continue to buy from my tried and true sources.  Still, being in Colorado and it snowing the past 3 days and having run out due to NYE partying, I walked down to the Denver Kush Club a block away and picked myself up a gram of Golden Goat to tide me over until I can meet up with my friend.  That was really nice to be able to do.

I also like the fact that I can be sitting on a strain of really heady, no motivation bud and, when the need arises to go out to the club and get on the dance floor, I can swing by the corner store and pick up a nice sativa to give me some get up and go instead.
 
2014-01-05 01:16:40 PM
www.imagescolorado.com

Denver yesterday.......
 
2014-01-05 01:18:37 PM
If it's just personal use and the dope is that good, an 1/8 should last quite awhile.  Haven't smoke in decades, but, using a one-hitter, a little bit of pot would last a long time, even with daily use.
 
2014-01-05 01:19:16 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Employers already have too much power, what we need are better protections for employee rights.


This. And MONROEBOTS!
 
2014-01-05 01:19:21 PM
Wonder when California does this? A 25% tax (or knowing CA, even more) on sales of MJ is just too juicy for the Sacramentoites to forgo for long.
 
2014-01-05 01:21:12 PM
If you're a Coloradoan and apply for a federal job could the presence of marijuana in your bloodstream disqualify you?
 
2014-01-05 01:22:49 PM

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Selling pot earns admiration, in some limited form, from a vast swath across society.


WTF
 
2014-01-05 01:23:57 PM

jjorsett: If you're a Coloradoan and apply for a federal job could the presence of marijuana in your bloodstream disqualify you?


Yes.  Right now it could even disqualify you from a job at the local McDonalds.  Legalization was a big win, but the war isn't even close to over, there are still a lot of things that will need to be worked out.
 
2014-01-05 01:29:23 PM

Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.

How will they distinguish people who smoke on the weekend at home, vs someone whose smoking up behind the restaurant? And what happens when said person is high on weed and cuts his finger off, is workers comp going to cover the potheads?


, by village idiots I'm sure you meant "normal fellow Americans who enjoy marijuana".

2nd, those folks might just not have jobs which drug test. Most jobs don't. Even in industries which do - like mine - most of those don't require random testing during employment, just one test during the hiring process. If you needed to not have a beer for a few weeks while looking for a job could you? Same idea, except marijuana isn't as addictive as alcohol.
 
2014-01-05 01:32:29 PM

jjorsett: Wonder when California does this? A 25% tax (or knowing CA, even more) on sales of MJ is just too juicy for the Sacramentoites to forgo for long.


Of course, you know in Colorado, the politicians are watching the volume of sales and kicking themselves, saying, "We should've made it a 40% tax, no 50%....!"  Remember, you're dealing with parasites, er , politicians.  They'll raise the taxes to a stupid level and the drug gangs will be back in business.
  The Feds will notice that there's a tit that they're not sucking and want to get into the game, in the near future.  I work for the Feds, I know.
 
2014-01-05 01:32:29 PM
sammyk: fark drug math is already in effect.

Fark Drug Math...

Prices were also increased by the new 25 percent tax -- 15 percent excise and 10 percent sales -- on all marijuana purchases, add the inflation rate and it equals.....

img163.imageshack.us
 
2014-01-05 01:43:16 PM
$64 for like three joints?  INSANE!

/Pro tip if you stick seeds in dirt they grow.
 
2014-01-05 01:44:21 PM

mongbiohazard: Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.

How will they distinguish people who smoke on the weekend at home, vs someone whose smoking up behind the restaurant? And what happens when said person is high on weed and cuts his finger off, is workers comp going to cover the potheads?

, by village idiots I'm sure you meant "normal fellow Americans who enjoy marijuana".

2nd, those folks might just not have jobs which drug test. Most jobs don't. Even in industries which do - like mine - most of those don't require random testing during employment, just one test during the hiring process. If you needed to not have a beer for a few weeks while looking for a job could you? Same idea, except marijuana isn't as addictive as alcohol.


True, but alcohol can make you vomit into your lungs and dry land drown, so it has that going for it, which is_____.
Alcohol and marijuana cannot be treated the same way. Period.
First of all, alcohol is a specific and singular toxin.
Marijuana is a complex of multiple active drugs, none toxic, but with differing psychoactive effects.
The paradigms you have from believing 80 years of outright lies will not, however permit you to understand that without EXPERIENCE.

are you experienced?
 
2014-01-05 01:44:28 PM
I'd like to see importation banned, and all legal stuff grown domestically. Take the international traffickers out of it.  There is still too much involvement of cartels. Weed legalization shouldn't support violent syndicates.
 
2014-01-05 01:45:33 PM

Turbo Cojones: $64 for like three joints?  INSANE!

/Pro tip if you stick seeds in dirt they grow.


Like weeds, not a real marketable item these days.
Good pot is an art.
 
2014-01-05 01:46:04 PM

T-Boy: I'd like to see importation banned, and all legal stuff grown domestically. Take the international traffickers out of it.  There is still too much involvement of cartels. Weed legalization shouldn't support violent syndicates.


But under the new laws they get a 25% cut.
 
2014-01-05 01:47:12 PM

T-Boy: I'd like to see importation banned, and all legal stuff grown domestically. Take the international traffickers out of it.  There is still too much involvement of cartels. Weed legalization shouldn't support violent syndicates.


You still have to get the "Bank" by the short hairs.
Deny the money, happy happy happy.
 
2014-01-05 01:47:12 PM

doglover: ausfahrk: RogermcAllen: Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.

You poor simple man.

Ingredients: 5 gallons of applejuice (~$15), a $0.75 packet of yeast, 1 pound of sugar (~$1.5), Hinkley water bottle (free, or maybe ~$10 if it comes full of water), a piece of aluminum foil (essentially free)
Total cost: ~$18-25
Yield: 5 gallons of delicious 9% ABV dignity (also pants) remover

1.  Dump out the water
2.  Pour half of the apple juice (each bottle of juice should be half empty) into the Hinkley bottle
3.  Divide the sugar amongst the half empty juice bottles
4.  Shake juice bottles until sugar is dissolved
5.  Pour yeast into hinkley bottle
6.  Pour remaining apple juice into hinkley bottle
7.  Cap with foil
8.  Let sit in a cool place in your basement until you can read a newspaper through the hinkley bottle (~a month of waiting).
9.  Get farked up


Wait, I just paid 10% sales tax on the water, the apple juice, the yeast, and the sugar, plus I had to go to the damn store to get them.  Plus I don't have a basement and haven't seen a newspaper since about 2009.

Also, it's the wrong kind of yeast. Bread yeast tastes like shiat.

That guy also didn't tell you about racking. Enjoy your million tons of lees in the bottom.

No disinfection step. Bacterial infection (just ruins flavor)

Basement, not temperature. Hope your basement isn't too warm/cold and ruins the ferment.

Talk about a shiatty recipe.


To address most of the comments:

The yeast isn't bread yest, red wine yeast (apparently it got more expensive since I last looked, but $0.79 won't break the bank).
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=613

After a month, wine yeast makes a pretty tight cake.  Sure you'll get some, but pour careful and you'll be fine.

The foil on top isn't meant to be an airtight seal.  It is just something over the top of the bottle to keep shiat from falling in.

Temperature is important, but it isn't mission critical.  You can make great beer/wine with little/no temperature control.  I know of almost no-one with a basement too hot to brew in.

Sanitization is important, but the water bottle comes pretty clean and the apple juice is pasteurized.  With all the sugar in there, the yeast can out compete just about anything else.

If you don't have a newspaper, go upstairs and ask your parents to give you the phone bill.  If you can clearly see the words it is good to go.

The point wasn't to make the best booze ever, but to make something good for cheap.  ~$25 for 5 gallons (50x 12oz servings @ ~$0.5) at 9% abv is on par with a $12 24pack of 4.2% ABV Bud Light.  Buy some better equipment (sanitizers, racking cane, etc.) and you can make it even better.  For some further reading http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/man-i-love-apfelwein-14860/
 
2014-01-05 01:52:44 PM
I think a lot of folks saying it's easy to grow your own have never actually done it. I attempted it once, did the research, bought good quality feminized seeds, etc. and failed miserably. I didn't even get to the harvesting/trimming part, which I'm told is a total pain in the ass.

As for drug testing, I've had jobs with pre-employment drug tests, but never one with random drug tests. Unless you work for the government, need some kind of security clearance, or do hazardous work, I think random drug testing is pretty rare, for the obvious reason that you would lose a lot of otherwise good employees. Any sane employer would rather have an employee who does great work and is a recreational drug user than a shiatty worker who lives clean.
 
2014-01-05 01:55:32 PM

mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.


Which is of course why microbreweries and produce sections of stores don't exist.
 
2014-01-05 01:58:22 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Why aren't people who publically admit to smoking marijuana arrested?


Because there's no chance of getting a conviction if there is no evidence other than a confession which may or may not be truthful?

But then, if you publicly admit to smoking marijuana illegally, you shouldn't be surprised if the police start paying more attention to you in hopes of getting the kind of physical evidence that will result in a conviction.  If you're black and not famous.
 
2014-01-05 01:59:48 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: An eighth is perfect for somebody like me. That would last me two weeks.

/okay with paying more in taxes in exchange for never having to meet some shady person ever again
//get on the ball already, Washington


The great thing right now is quality stuff in Washington is getting cheaper and cheaper. Everyone and there mother is going for a run at this legal pot stuff and pieces of the crop are being sold to raise capital for the retail operations.
 
2014-01-05 01:59:56 PM
And they say the Colorado Budget Surplus grew three sizes that day.
 
2014-01-05 02:01:05 PM

BSABSVR: mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.

Which is of course why microbreweries and produce sections of stores don't exist.


Comparing marijuana to cabbage is a lot more accurate than comparing it to alcohol.
It should be regulated the same.
 
2014-01-05 02:04:43 PM

snocone: BSABSVR: mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.

Which is of course why microbreweries and produce sections of stores don't exist.

Comparing marijuana to cabbage is a lot more accurate than comparing it to alcohol.
It should be regulated the same.


Not the point.
 
2014-01-05 02:08:29 PM

Hobodeluxe: Tenga: I don't have any experience with quantities as small as an eighth. How many pencil width joints is that? If it's at least 4, especially for 1 hit shiat, is say it's worth the $40.

don't roll it. that's wasting it. one hit vaporizers is the way to conserve and make it easy on the lungs.


I was just trying to break it down to a known unit of measurement.
 
2014-01-05 02:10:46 PM

Tenga: I was just trying to break it down to a known unit of measurement.


A joint isn't a very standard measurement.
 
2014-01-05 02:11:46 PM

Mister Peejay: 70 million in tax revenue at 25% rate means 280 million in retail sales. (I will assume that they don't count taxes in the sales figure) Say the retailers add a 50% markup, so the wholesalers are doing roughly $185 million in sales. Say the wholesalers are adding a 50% markup, so the growers are doing roughly $122 million in sales. 280 + 185 + 122 is $587 million, or nearly 600 million dollars in retail and wholesale sales.


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2014-01-05 02:13:15 PM

BSABSVR: snocone: BSABSVR: mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.

Which is of course why microbreweries and produce sections of stores don't exist.

Comparing marijuana to cabbage is a lot more accurate than comparing it to alcohol.
It should be regulated the same.

Not the point.


You brought up produce sections.
Pot is produce.
Pot does not satisfy the marketplace unless it is cultivated.
Fools cannot grow decent pot.
 
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