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2014-01-05 12:00:56 PM
so how many plants do they allow you to grow at once?
 
2014-01-05 12:02:10 PM

wildcardjack: Some Coke Drinking Guy: This is really bad news for Colorado's drug gangs.

The diversity of illegal products the drug gangs like to traffic is enough that taking one thing out of their lineup isn't enough to kill the whole business. Besides, most of the pot dealers I've know were only in distribution so they could have a consistent supply and make an income while not having to pass a piss test.


The problem with that is in the math. Seriously, you should check out how the percentage of drug use breaks down. It's basically all marijuana, a distant second is prescription drug use and all hard drugs put together are a tiny, tiny fraction of American drug use. Hard drug stories get a lot of coverage, but the reality is that marijuana is the overwhelming bulk of the drug trade.

Legalization cannot help but cripple the illegal drug industry. Sure booze still gets smuggled to avoid excise taxes sometimes, but there's simply no denying that it isn't the problem it was before prohibition was repealed.
 
2014-01-05 12:02:24 PM
A fool and his money are soon parted.
 
2014-01-05 12:04:35 PM

Hobodeluxe: so how many plants do they allow you to grow at once?


Q: Why can't I just grow my own marijuana at home?
A: You can. Colorado law allows people 21 and older to grow up to six plants, provided it's done in an "enclosed, locked space." Some cities have limited the number of plants that can be grown in a single house - Denver's cap is 12 - and some cities have imposed other zoning or code restrictions on home-growing. Even without those hurdles, experts say that, just because it's called weed, don't expect marijuana to grow as easily as one at home. That difficulty is the main reason why the recreational marijuana stores are expected to be so popular.



http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_24823785/colorado-marijuana-g ui de-64-answers-commonly-asked-questions
 
2014-01-05 12:04:55 PM

mccallcl: TwistedIvory: unlikely: Now if they'll just release everyone who's in jail for possession, I think we'll be covered. At least on that front.

While I agree with the sentiment, the people who are jailed for drug crimes knowingly violated the law at the time of the commission of the crime. Making recreational pot legal NOW does not make it legal THEN, too, unless a blanket pardon is issued.

But they knowingly violated a law that we now admit was stupid and has been repealed. They're still alive, which makes for a great opportunity to set things straight. Keeping them in jail at taxpayer expense as a matter of principle is pretty dumb, especially when we as a society have agreed that particular principle is baseless.

It's like keeping slaves in jail for escape attempts after emancipation.


isn't it still against federal law to have pot?
 
2014-01-05 12:05:11 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: ddaug4uf: Why aren't people who publically admit to smoking marijuana arrested?

Habeas corpus. Unless the roach is still around, there was no crime.

I think you mean habeus dilecti. You definitely don't mean habeus corpus.


habeus corpus dilecti , now with more mustard!
 
2014-01-05 12:05:24 PM
Gee, now if only they could import the stuff to cover the short-term supply constraints...

/desperately want IL to legalize to draw the early-adopter pot-tourism bonus
 
2014-01-05 12:07:25 PM

Yakk: The only way this stops is if the Feds crush it before it spreads to other states.


The likelihood of which is rapidly diminishing towards zero. The Administration had publically stated that they will honor states' wishes wrt pot so long as they go through a formal legalization process and put appropriate (read alcohol-style) public safeguards in place. This is the Conservative agenda Mr Obama is so good at exploiting. If, OTOH, he were now to reverse himself the GOP would hang him from the nearest telephone pole (insert lynching puns here). The Democrats have more important fights to win, as do the GOP, so this is largely a non-issue for both sides, as neither can afford the distraction.

This is the real beauty of the Administration's approach. They want pot to go away as a legal issue, and have figured out that the best way to do so is to let it become a states' issue. Colorado and Washington are going to pave the way for more states to follow suit, which they will do in a landslide, and one day soon the Hillary Administration will simply reschedule pot, allowing states to make up their own minds about it. That is pretty much what the repeal of Prohibition did in '33. Some states legalized all alcohol the same day (or VERY soon), which others maintained Prohibition into the 60's.
 
2014-01-05 12:08:04 PM

TuteTibiImperes: 10up: the legal stores are just tourist traps.
$50 for an eighth!  No lie...I get that people in like... Shreveport might dig that price.  But Colorado?  Hell, I didn't even pay that much in Iowa last time I was there.The retail stores are for idiots and tourists.  They offer everything the medical side has at a 33% markup (on average thus far).  Grow your own with your friends!  That's the best part of the law.  Medical cards have essentially just turned into a "Colorado Resident Discount" card.

What's the worth of your time and space you'd have to devote to a grow op?  How bout the cost of the lights, hydro equipment, fertilizers, seeds/starter-plants, etc?  It's been pointed out numerous times already - you can grow your own vegetables, brew your own beer, or even make your own wine legally, but most people can't be bothered.  The retail shops offer a convenience that many people will pay for.  Plus, I can see a lot of people not wanting to get medical cards because then their name is associated with weed 'in the system'.

AFAIK buying on the street is still illegal in CO, so I could see CO law enforcement starting to crack down on street/unlicensed dealers now as a tax revenue protection measure.

thismomentinblackhistory: I'm not trying to be a dick but this whole "as long as it was in the past -- shenanigans, I tell you!" crap from pundits and politicians is really wearing thin when regular people are sitting in jail cells right now for the same thing.

Substitute DUI for weed -- that would be a different ball game, right? "I used to drive drunk." Nobody is stepping up to say that.

DUI isn't the same as using marijuana.  You can smoke marijuana without driving high just like you can drink alcohol without driving drunk.


It is illegal to possess, buy, sell, or consume marijuana until very recently.
 
2014-01-05 12:08:29 PM

germ78: Gee, now if only they could import the stuff to cover the short-term supply constraints...

/desperately want IL to legalize to draw the early-adopter pot-tourism bonus


From what I understand, alot of the short term supply problem is related to the fact that they couldn't start growing for the recreational side until Jan 1.  Some of the medicinal stores xfered some of their inventory to the rec part but some didn't.  They didn't want to screw over current customers.  From info from some phone calls I've made, you'll see many new rec stores opening in March after they've been able to get inventory shored up.
 
rka
2014-01-05 12:09:40 PM

mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.


You can brew your own beer too. Lots of homebrew shops in CO, its a very popular hobby. No shortage of profitable small breweries in Colorado though.

Something to be said about being able to wander into a shop with 20 different strains plus another 20-30 varieties of edible products.
 
2014-01-05 12:10:47 PM
There's one other FANTASTIC bonus to this happening in Colorado (and hopefully the rest of the U.S.).

The sick butchers that comprise the drug cartels in Mexico will be losing a source of income.  Even though I know Los Zetas primarily engage in coke trafficking, the bottom line is that the less business we give those maggots, the better.
 
2014-01-05 12:11:19 PM

TwistedIvory: , unless a blanket pardon is issued.


And why shouldn't one be issued? The law is not based on some superior morality of some kind of infallible immortal benefactor, it's just a bunch of corrupt politicians who take bribes from lobbyists. I mean look at the FCC. We all come out of vaginas and suck on nipples. Nipples are the foundation of society. Everyone has them. Everyone needed them. Every sane country in the world? Nipples are legal on TV. Not in the USA. Why? Someone passes a law. Why? God only knows, cause I sure don't.
 
2014-01-05 12:11:21 PM

Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.


Growing quality smoke is as complex and challenging as brewing quality beer and wine. OTOH, brewing and drinking rot-gut is about the same as smoking ditch weed. Yeah, it's easy, but who wants to do it?
 
2014-01-05 12:11:25 PM
All this talk about growing your own weed, growing anything yourself takes time, hard work, and money. Raise chickens for eggs and meat. The quality is great but it's more expensive than store bought. If growing weed outdoors, the soil needs to be prepped, water hoses laid out, fencing to keep out deer and rodents, fertilizer to be spread. Then the weather plays a big part, lack of sun, low temperatures, too much wind. The male plants are cut down, so after a few weeks of hard work, half the crop is lost. The best weed is from the unfertilized female plants, sinsemilla. Disease, insects, and/or mold wipes out plants, too. An indoor grow is just as hard. Expensive lights, the strong odor of the plants,the electric bills.  Store bought weed is cheaper in the long run.
 
2014-01-05 12:12:11 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: It is illegal to possess, buy, sell, or consume marijuana until very recently.


If you enjoy juxtaposing reckless endangerment with a victimless crime involving personal choice, then by all means, do so.  Most people don't see the connection, because most people know that the analogy is stupid.
 
2014-01-05 12:12:13 PM

Waldo Pepper: mccallcl: TwistedIvory: unlikely: Now if they'll just release everyone who's in jail for possession, I think we'll be covered. At least on that front.

While I agree with the sentiment, the people who are jailed for drug crimes knowingly violated the law at the time of the commission of the crime. Making recreational pot legal NOW does not make it legal THEN, too, unless a blanket pardon is issued.

But they knowingly violated a law that we now admit was stupid and has been repealed. They're still alive, which makes for a great opportunity to set things straight. Keeping them in jail at taxpayer expense as a matter of principle is pretty dumb, especially when we as a society have agreed that particular principle is baseless.

It's like keeping slaves in jail for escape attempts after emancipation.

isn't it still against federal law to have pot?


Ok, so keep those with federal pot cases in federal prison. Everybody else in CO, MI, etc goes free.
 
2014-01-05 12:12:33 PM
An eighth is perfect for somebody like me. That would last me two weeks.

/okay with paying more in taxes in exchange for never having to meet some shady person ever again
//get on the ball already, Washington
 
2014-01-05 12:14:42 PM

doglover: TwistedIvory: , unless a blanket pardon is issued.

And why shouldn't one be issued? The law is not based on some superior morality of some kind of infallible immortal benefactor, it's just a bunch of corrupt politicians who take bribes from lobbyists. I mean look at the FCC. We all come out of vaginas and suck on nipples. Nipples are the foundation of society. Everyone has them. Everyone needed them. Every sane country in the world? Nipples are legal on TV. Not in the USA. Why? Someone passes a law. Why? God only knows, cause I sure don't.


Because forbidden fruit and naughty bits and THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
 
2014-01-05 12:15:27 PM
$50? I paid almost that much yesterday for printer ink.


GanjSmokr:
I can barely keep a cactus alive but I tried growing anyway.  I was somewhat successful but it really is something you have to stay on top of (at least the method I was using is).  At the time, it was more work than I was willing to give for what I ended up getting.  I might try again since I still have all the equipment but if the legal prices hold, walking into a store is going to be more attractive than keeping a grow operation going.

I tried growing from seed once. Put a lot of work into a very nice looking plant for a number of months. But, then, something didn't seem quite right. That's about the time that the pollen pods started bursting and I figured out that I had been wasting all my time on a MALE.

/there's always some detail that you manage to miss
//and that one detail will end up being a major game changer
 
2014-01-05 12:16:20 PM

Nightjars: thismomentinblackhistory: It is illegal to possess, buy, sell, or consume marijuana until very recently.

If you enjoy juxtaposing reckless endangerment with a victimless crime involving personal choice, then by all means, do so.  Most people don't see the connection, because most people know that the analogy is stupid.


The laws the law son.
 
2014-01-05 12:17:37 PM
They will blow out sales projections and smoke the critics with record tax revenue.

If MJCO were a stock it would be Twitter.
 
2014-01-05 12:18:25 PM

doglover: TwistedIvory: , unless a blanket pardon is issued.

And why shouldn't one be issued? The law is not based on some superior morality of some kind of infallible immortal benefactor, it's just a bunch of corrupt politicians who take bribes from lobbyists. I mean look at the FCC. We all come out of vaginas and suck on nipples. Nipples are the foundation of society. Everyone has them. Everyone needed them. Every sane country in the world? Nipples are legal on TV. Not in the USA. Why? Someone passes a law. Why? God only knows, cause I sure don't.


Nipples are legal on American TV, just not before 10pm on the networks.  Cable channels could show topless people all day every day if they wanted to, and NBC could replace Jay Leno with a nude Chelsea Handler to host The Tonight Show without breaking any FCC rules.

A lot of channels still hold back on the nudity due to the Puritanical cultural mores that are still hanging on in this country regarding sex, but that's about appeasing advertisers, not FCC rules.
 
2014-01-05 12:18:36 PM

mrlewish: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Not gonna happen when you can grow your own. The state will get the windfalls just 2 years until everybody that wants to grow will. It's not like it's hard to grow.


That's how the home brewers put Budweiser out of business

/Americans are happy to pay for convenience
 
2014-01-05 12:19:12 PM

Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.


You poor simple man.

Ingredients: 5 gallons of applejuice (~$15), a $0.75 packet of yeast, 1 pound of sugar (~$1.5), Hinkley water bottle (free, or maybe ~$10 if it comes full of water), a piece of aluminum foil (essentially free)
Total cost: ~$18-25
Yield: 5 gallons of delicious 9% ABV dignity (also pants) remover

1.  Dump out the water
2.  Pour half of the apple juice (each bottle of juice should be half empty) into the Hinkley bottle
3.  Divide the sugar amongst the half empty juice bottles
4.  Shake juice bottles until sugar is dissolved
5.  Pour yeast into hinkley bottle
6.  Pour remaining apple juice into hinkley bottle
7.  Cap with foil
8.  Let sit in a cool place in your basement until you can read a newspaper through the hinkley bottle (~a month of waiting).
9.  Get farked up
 
2014-01-05 12:19:15 PM

Phil McKraken: legion_of_doo: sammyk: fark drug math is already in effect.

Prices were also increased by the new 25 percent tax -- 15 percent excise and 10 percent sales -- on all marijuana purchases in the state that voters approved in November, along with any other local jurisdictional taxes on top of that. Marijuana sales are expected to generate nearly $70 million in tax revenue for Colorado in 2014.

The state projects nearly $600 million in retail and wholesale marijuana sales annually.

OMFG!
That's like $500 BILLION in annual sales!!!!11!

Cop math still welcome, I see.


Might as well be, once the feds start going after the sellers.
 
2014-01-05 12:19:18 PM

GanjSmokr: Hobodeluxe: so how many plants do they allow you to grow at once?


Q: Why can't I just grow my own marijuana at home?
A: You can. Colorado law allows people 21 and older to grow up to six plants, provided it's done in an "enclosed, locked space." Some cities have limited the number of plants that can be grown in a single house - Denver's cap is 12 - and some cities have imposed other zoning or code restrictions on home-growing. Even without those hurdles, experts say that, just because it's called weed, don't expect marijuana to grow as easily as one at home. That difficulty is the main reason why the recreational marijuana stores are expected to be so popular.


http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_24823785/colorado-marijuana-g ui de-64-answers-commonly-asked-questions


cool 6 plants is plenty if you know what you're doing. cycle them 3 veg /3 flower and harvest every 8 weeks.
 
rka
2014-01-05 12:19:38 PM

doglover: Nipples are legal on TV. Not in the USA.


What are HBO/Showtime doing in that case?

I get the point, but just because the US doesn't broadcast tits on the set of Good Morning America (broadcast networks) doesn't really concern me all that much.
 
2014-01-05 12:21:04 PM
So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.

How will they distinguish people who smoke on the weekend at home, vs someone whose smoking up behind the restaurant? And what happens when said person is high on weed and cuts his finger off, is workers comp going to cover the potheads?
 
2014-01-05 12:22:26 PM
Good job, Colorado. I hope you like seeing all those used syringes everywhere.
 
2014-01-05 12:22:47 PM

TuteTibiImperes: NBC could replace Jay Leno with a nude Chelsea Handler to host The Tonight Show without breaking any FCC rules


Does NBC have some sort of petition process or should we use the White House petition site to get this done?
 
2014-01-05 12:22:56 PM

Yakk: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Exactly, it will be just like gambling. The only way this stops is if the Feds crush it before it spreads to other states.


Right now the cartels have opened the money funnels to our elected "representatives" to put the kabash on all this. Do it for the childrens!
 
2014-01-05 12:24:21 PM

DigitalCoffee: $50? I paid almost that much yesterday for printer ink.


 How high did it get you?

Ahhh, it's so nice to toke on legal Colorado weed.  $85 a quarter is pretty outrageous but it costs what it costs.

Yeah, as I stood there in line I was wondering why the hell I wasn't going to my regular dealer.

These prices are farking crazy
 
2014-01-05 12:24:30 PM
I don't have any experience with quantities as small as an eighth. How many pencil width joints is that? If it's at least 4, especially for 1 hit shiat, is say it's worth the $40.
 
2014-01-05 12:26:04 PM

born_yesterday: Good job, Colorado. I hope you like seeing all those used syringes everywhere.


This post makes no sense whatsoever.
 
rka
2014-01-05 12:26:18 PM

Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.


I'm 41. Work for one of the largest software companies in the world. Worked for various high tech companies in the Boulder area for almost 20 years.

Never been drug tested. Ever. I'd walk away from any job offer that even brought it up.
 
2014-01-05 12:26:55 PM

Smoking GNU: born_yesterday: Good job, Colorado. I hope you like seeing all those used syringes everywhere.

This post makes no sense whatsoever.


Clearly, he was born_yesterday... :-)
 
2014-01-05 12:27:12 PM

Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.


If a company requires you to be drug-free, then it doesn't matter if the drug is legal or not. No drugs = no drugs.

Also, I've never had a job that required a drug test. Indeed, if we did drug test I think we'd lose half of our programmers.
 
2014-01-05 12:27:27 PM

Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.

How will they distinguish people who smoke on the weekend at home, vs someone whose smoking up behind the restaurant? And what happens when said person is high on weed and cuts his finger off, is workers comp going to cover the potheads?


How is that different than alcohol?

Alcohol is legal.
If I go to work drunk and do something bad, is workers comp going to cover it?
 
2014-01-05 12:29:13 PM

Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.

How will they distinguish people who smoke on the weekend at home, vs someone whose smoking up behind the restaurant? And what happens when said person is high on weed and cuts his finger off, is workers comp going to cover the potheads?


That's going to be the next big issue I think.  Everyone can agree that showing up to work impaired shouldn't be allowed.  For alcohol it's always been easy - the tests show if it's in your system, and if it's in your system, it's effecting you.

Some employers have been starting to prohibit nicotine use, not just at work, but at all, and personally, I think that's a major imposition on individual rights.  Of course, with how smokers are vilified in this country, there hasn't been much of a fight about it.  The nice thing about the MJ movement is that it has a lot of momentum and righteous fury behind it, so I could see (and would love to see) a push for legislation barring employers for taking adverse action against employees for any off-the-clock legal substance use.

That of course brings up the need for a reliable, quick, and affordable test to show active THC intoxication, just as we need for pot DUI purposes.  Getting stoned the night before work shouldn't be a problem, getting stoned on your lunch break should.

Without legislation protecting employees I think most employers are going to err on the side of caution and keep testing for marijuana, especially those with national reach whose policies would apply for employees in legal-MJ and illegal-MJ states alike.  I could see CO based and small businesses being more flexible however.
 
2014-01-05 12:31:52 PM

gfid: These prices are farking crazy


Which leads to the argument that without blanket legalization, these high prices allow more affluent whites to legally buy weed, while pricing out the poorer black and brown people. This keeps the prison complex happy, as they'll still be able to fill their cells. Illustrated here: Link
 
2014-01-05 12:32:00 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Nipples are legal on American TV, just not before 10pm on the networks.


When I am king, flexible LED screens will mean that all TV will be holographic images playing on the skin of android actors. In that case, your android will actually become the actor or actress in the show. Commercial breaks will be played on the stage, leaving you time to fraternize with your Marylin Monroebots.

www.punkasspunk.com
 
2014-01-05 12:33:11 PM

Snarfangel: Clemkadidlefark: [reg9prc.org image 216x280]

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I went both ways.

/College of the Siskiyous alumni
 
2014-01-05 12:36:02 PM

gfid: DigitalCoffee: $50? I paid almost that much yesterday for printer ink.

 How high did it get you?


I was through the roof. Went to WalMart, Staples, and Target and they all had the same exact price. Amazon was $2 cheaper but then I would have had to wait 1 to 2 weeks for free shipping. What a farking scam.


Hope we get enough signatures to get MMJ on the ballot here in Florida. Doubt it will pass the first time, but I still hope it gets on there.
 
2014-01-05 12:38:19 PM

Mister Peejay: sammyk: fark drug math is already in effect.

Prices were also increased by the new 25 percent tax -- 15 percent excise and 10 percent sales -- on all marijuana purchases in the state that voters approved in November, along with any other local jurisdictional taxes on top of that. Marijuana sales are expected to generate nearly $70 million in tax revenue for Colorado in 2014.

The state projects nearly $600 million in retail and wholesale marijuana sales annually.

What drug math?

Let's work backwards...  70 million in tax revenue at 25% rate means 280 million in retail sales.  (I will assume that they don't count taxes in the sales figure)  Say the retailers add a 50% markup, so the wholesalers are doing roughly $185 million in sales.  Say the wholesalers are adding a 50% markup, so the growers are doing roughly $122 million in sales.  280 + 185 + 122 is $587 million, or nearly 600 million dollars in retail and wholesale sales.


For all the people with the tax questions, read the analysis above.  Excise taxes will be applied at one point, most likely the retail sale.  Typically, sales tax is applied at this point, also.  They are not taxing the pot at every step of the supply chain.
 
2014-01-05 12:38:33 PM

Misconduc: So I am curious, all these village idiots buying weed - are none of them being drug tested? I mean just about every job I've had since I was 17 requires drug testing..... How is the legal weed going to work around this? All I know is you piss in a cup, if you have smoked within the past few weeks it shows up.

How will they distinguish people who smoke on the weekend at home, vs someone whose smoking up behind the restaurant? And what happens when said person is high on weed and cuts his finger off, is workers comp going to cover the potheads?


Have you ever worked in a restaurant? The staff will smoke weed out back whether or not it is legal.
 
2014-01-05 12:39:53 PM
are those 39 people that oded and  died yesterday doing ok
 
2014-01-05 12:41:19 PM

Tenga: I don't have any experience with quantities as small as an eighth. How many pencil width joints is that? If it's at least 4, especially for 1 hit shiat, is say it's worth the $40.


don't roll it. that's wasting it. one hit vaporizers is the way to conserve and make it easy on the lungs.
 
2014-01-05 12:41:32 PM

Nick Nostril: Yakk: flucto: Even though I'd never personally touch the stuff, I hope the state gets a massive windfall in taxes. It will be very hard for other states to ignore that.

Exactly, it will be just like gambling. The only way this stops is if the Feds crush it before it spreads to other states.

Right now the cartels have opened the money funnels to our elected "representatives" to put the kabash on all this. Do it for the childrens!


How about we do it for our childrens instead of the profiteers' crotchfruit?
Pot is cheap enough to cultivate that there is money for everybody, except those a^^wipes currently enjoying the black market they created.
 
2014-01-05 12:41:55 PM

RogermcAllen: Kevin72: Stone Meadow

Brewing beer or wine takes a lot of work and expensive equipment, and the results are unpredictable.

Marijuana grows like a weed, mostly because it is a weed.

You poor simple man.

Ingredients: 5 gallons of applejuice (~$15), a $0.75 packet of yeast, 1 pound of sugar (~$1.5), Hinkley water bottle (free, or maybe ~$10 if it comes full of water), a piece of aluminum foil (essentially free)
Total cost: ~$18-25
Yield: 5 gallons of delicious 9% ABV dignity (also pants) remover

1.  Dump out the water
2.  Pour half of the apple juice (each bottle of juice should be half empty) into the Hinkley bottle
3.  Divide the sugar amongst the half empty juice bottles
4.  Shake juice bottles until sugar is dissolved
5.  Pour yeast into hinkley bottle
6.  Pour remaining apple juice into hinkley bottle
7.  Cap with foil
8.  Let sit in a cool place in your basement until you can read a newspaper through the hinkley bottle (~a month of waiting).
9.  Get farked up



Wait, I just paid 10% sales tax on the water, the apple juice, the yeast, and the sugar, plus I had to go to the damn store to get them.  Plus I don't have a basement and haven't seen a newspaper since about 2009.
 
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