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2014-01-05 10:42:27 AM  

Fissile: You have no idea of what goes on with New York Hasidim.


As an Arctic Circle dweller, I'm pretty far removed from the NY Hasidim scene. Embellish a little here.
 
2014-01-05 10:42:48 AM  

Fissile: jayphat: mbillips: Wonder why this dirtbag was so far in the hole, considering how he rips people off? Degenerate gambler? Invested in a Ponzi scheme? Expensive girlfriend(s)? Coke habit?

The same way every other ripoff artist is. They over extend themselves and live at their limit like the rest of America

=================

You have no idea of what goes on with New York Hasidim.


No. But I know how people who spend their lives scamming/shorting other people only to extend themselves to that limit thinking they can keep scamming people and counting on that income.
 
2014-01-05 10:43:14 AM  

buzzcut73: I wonder how hard the investigators are going to work this case.


==============

Not very hard at all.  If the investigators started flipping over rocks in Brooklyn, Orange/Rockland Counties, so much vermin and sleaze would come out from underneath the entire NY State government would choke on it.
 
2014-01-05 10:44:03 AM  

Tom_Slick: toraque: zimbomba63: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

Hipsters are whacking people now?  I bet they killed him in a ironic fashion.

Hipsters were into killing scumbag landlords before it was cool.  In fact, they were doing it in ways you probably haven't heard of.

Well I've never heard of a man being smothered and burned from the waist down.


They knock him senseless or one guy just holds him down, and a plastic bag over the head = smother.  The burning part is to eliminate physical evidence.

If it's the hipsters, they would have used a handmade, artisanal plastic bag, from a store you never heard of.
 
2014-01-05 10:47:35 AM  

oukewldave: Doubt any of the people he owed money to did this.  A dead man has no chance of paying up.  Unless they determined they would never get the money no matter what.  Probably was an angry tenant.


Statistics say crime takes a day off in bad weather like blizzards, but stories like this and that Flint had a shooting this morning proves one thing.  If someone is that pissed at you, they will be coming.
 
2014-01-05 10:49:01 AM  

Verrai: Very likely an internal Hasidic feud. The Williamsburg Hasidim are notoriously divided and surprisingly gangster-like n their treatment of rival factions.


Yeah, shocking that people willing to be so kooky about a religion would struggle with rationality and compromise.
 
2014-01-05 10:49:21 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: If only there were laws against fire, this wouldn't have happened.


Or maybe he could have defended himself if he had had fire of his own.

/unless it was the Sabbath
 
2014-01-05 10:49:23 AM  

gwowen: skeevy420: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

5. Forcefully touching a young teen girl

Don't forget:

6. Loan sharking
7. Home foreclosure scams


All of these are accusations have no basis in fact.  Of course people will spew them, especially Farkers, as 1) they are safe behind anonymity and 2) the accused is unable to defend himself (being dead)

What we do have here is a person who is dead under suspicious circumstances.  He did accumulate some material assets before his death.  He provided a place to live to others for a monthly fee.

Anything else is pure conjecture, be it kicking puppies or helping with Little Suzie's bake sale.
 
2014-01-05 10:50:16 AM  

Joe Peanut: RIP Joaquim de Almeida!
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Wow!  They could have been twins.
 
2014-01-05 10:51:47 AM  
Some real assholes on fark as usual....
 
2014-01-05 10:52:24 AM  
Bet the plumber was not too happy.  I'd be calling the police asking for that check!
 
2014-01-05 10:52:38 AM  

zimbomba63: oukewldave: Doubt any of the people he owed money to did this.  A dead man has no chance of paying up.  Unless they determined they would never get the money no matter what.  Probably was an angry tenant.

This.  The mob guys would lean on him, and then, give him an out.  They would become his partners, in some of his businesses, and, eventually, he would be forced out, or maybe, disappear or something.  It's the way the mob sets up legit businesses to wash their dirty money.


You sound like you know how the mob really works. Tell us more.
 
2014-01-05 10:54:04 AM  
I gotta say this.  My Dad's best friends father is a slum lord.  He goes around buying up condemned and cheap auction homes, hires a crew to come in a fix it up, and then rents exclusively to HUD families.  Now, this guy won't pay ANYONE over 8 an hour and does really shady things like buying the house and having his crew stealthily remove sheet rock/walls/etc, redo the electrical, fix it all back, let it sit for a few months, then call the initial inspector to see that all the house needs is basic repairs --> that's highly illegal because only a licensed electrician or a homeowner, and only at the place of their actual residence for the homeowner, can legally do electrical work here.  He only does the 8 an hour because he's really, really cheap (pretty much every one of his crew is a crackhead, literal crack smokers), and he does HUD families exclusively because he can jack up the rent and the government will pay it.  Now, this guy has about 30 or so rent homes that make between 600-800 per month, his own business that makes thousands a month, and yet, he's always "broke" and going through "hard times" so he can't afford to pay help decently.  We did the math and he usually makes his money back in 10-14 months, just from the money the one house pulls in.

I was working for him a few years back (desperate and needed the $$$).  One evening he was trying to get us to work more hours, we were 9 hours in during a 100 degree day @ 8/hr, and I said no, I have to get home, my dogs have been locked up for about 10 hours now and I need to let them out.  He suggested that I take my dogs to the pound so they wouldn't be a distraction and I'd be able to work more hours and a "good" job.  I kindly explained how most employers pay skilled workers $15/hr+ for the same job and unskilled's at 10-12, told him to go fark himself, got in my truck, and left.  At the time I had had my dogs for 6 years from puppies, I'm not gonna abandon them so I can make an extra 16 dollars at the worst job you can have.

The problem with America is guys like him, the ones who make more money than they know what to do with and refuse paying the people who make them that money a livable wage -- Or, as I like to call it, Capitalism.
 
2014-01-05 10:54:04 AM  
What a surprise, an overly religious guy was involved in shady real estate dealings.  I personally have found, that regardless the religion, the more someone is fanatical about their faith, the more they seem able to rationalize crappy behavior.  I guess they figure they are going to heaven because they pray so well, so they get to treat their fellow man like lice.
 
2014-01-05 10:55:07 AM  

K3rmy: gwowen: skeevy420: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

5. Forcefully touching a young teen girl

Don't forget:

6. Loan sharking
7. Home foreclosure scams

All of these are accusations have no basis in fact.  Of course people will spew them, especially Farkers, as 1) they are safe behind anonymity and 2) the accused is unable to defend himself (being dead)

What we do have here is a person who is dead under suspicious circumstances.  He did accumulate some material assets before his death.  He provided a place to live to others for a monthly fee.

Anything else is pure conjecture, be it kicking puppies or helping with Little Suzie's bake sale.


The foreclosure scam was pretty easy to prove. While its not 100% for certain, 98% is close enough.
 
2014-01-05 10:56:19 AM  

zimbomba63: skeevy420: chopit: I sincerely hope it was the father of the teen girl. You forcibly fingerbang my little girl, I choke you to death and light you on fire. If you're lucky, I'll do it in that order.

Burn 'em on the stake with the logs going parallel to the ground --> best of both worlds.  Burned alive for 15 minutes or so, then a death by inhaling flames and your own burning flesh.

OK then, would you like some Xanax?


Oh HELL NO, that shiat makes me the meanest, worst, most dangerous person to be around.  Makes me very unstable and crazy.

Whenever I hear about someone burning alive, it reminds me of the documentary I watched about how the different angles of wood affected the person when burning at the stake.
 
2014-01-05 10:57:10 AM  
 
2014-01-05 11:01:36 AM  

buzzcut73: TheGregiss: Slumlord got what he had coming to him? No loss there. Bravo criminals who did this. May you go uncaught.

I wonder how hard the investigators are going to work this case. I'm getting the impression from what they were saying about the guy that if they do catch the person responsible, they might charge them with something like 'open burning without a permit' or some other petty offense.


Since scumbags are normally murdered by other scumbags, it's good to catch them anyways.  It gives society two for the price of one, or in this case, four for the price of one, since it seems like there was a group of people that grabbed this guy and pulled him into the van.

My guess, he was killed by some other shady business partners, so it wouldn't be a big loss to track them down, and put them away for life.
 
2014-01-05 11:01:53 AM  

Bob_Laublaw: Fissile: You have no idea of what goes on with New York Hasidim.

As an Arctic Circle dweller, I'm pretty far removed from the NY Hasidim scene. Embellish a little here.


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New York Hasidim....residing mainly in Brooklyn and Orange/Rockland counties, are an organized criminal cult.   This guy was not just stealing to make himself rich.  You can be sure million of those dollars were funneled to rabbis who use the money to build and maintain Frum schools, private security patrols, ambulance services,  health clinics...on and on it goes.  The rank and file Hasidim are totally dependent on these rabbis for everything.  They arrange marriages, provide housing, money, etc.  The rank and file then vote the way they are told to vote.  The Hasidim vote as a block, it's the most amazing thing I've ever seen.  The vote totals from the Hasidic communities look something like this:  78,345 for Candidate A -- 7 for Candidate B.  Those seven were probably people who forgot their glasses, or tripped inside the voting booth.  It's impossible to get elected dog catcher in the State of New York without the Hasidic vote.  In turn the politicians who are elected turn a blind eye to the blatant criminality taking place in the Hasidic community which includes, but is not limited to: Welfare fraud, insurance fraud, mortgage fraud, misuse of public funds, money laundering, etc, etc.

To sum up, the leaders of the Hasidim steal to provide for the rank and file so that everyone can live, but no one has to do any actual work.  In exchange, the dependent rank and file vote as a block, which gives the Hasidim enough political juice to keep stealing without fear of the pesky government taking an interest in what they are doing.
 
2014-01-05 11:02:07 AM  

K3rmy: gwowen: skeevy420: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

5. Forcefully touching a young teen girl

Don't forget:

6. Loan sharking
7. Home foreclosure scams

All of these are accusations have no basis in fact.  Of course people will spew them, especially Farkers, as 1) they are safe behind anonymity and 2) the accused is unable to defend himself (being dead)

What we do have here is a person who is dead under suspicious circumstances.  He did accumulate some material assets before his death.  He provided a place to live to others for a monthly fee.

Anything else is pure conjecture, be it kicking puppies or helping with Little Suzie's bake sale.


Well, there is the whole sealed document about touching a young teen girl.....the first 5 are facts, 6-7....well, yeah, I'll give ya that.
 
2014-01-05 11:03:50 AM  

jayphat: K3rmy: gwowen: skeevy420: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

5. Forcefully touching a young teen girl

Don't forget:

6. Loan sharking
7. Home foreclosure scams

All of these are accusations have no basis in fact.  Of course people will spew them, especially Farkers, as 1) they are safe behind anonymity and 2) the accused is unable to defend himself (being dead)

What we do have here is a person who is dead under suspicious circumstances.  He did accumulate some material assets before his death.  He provided a place to live to others for a monthly fee.

Anything else is pure conjecture, be it kicking puppies or helping with Little Suzie's bake sale.

The foreclosure scam was pretty easy to prove. While its not 100% for certain, 98% is close enough.


You need to add 'landlord' to that list. You pretty much have to "sell your soul to the devil" to live with that title.

This just in..Being devoutly religious is a very handy cover for evil people.

Just look at the mafioso types who make a huge deal about the RC church. It's good PR for them to be seen in mass every Sunday.
 
2014-01-05 11:05:10 AM  

Fissile: To sum up, the leaders of the Hasidim steal to provide for the rank and file so that everyone can live, but no one has to do any actual work.


What about the Diamond District?  Those guys appear to work.
 
2014-01-05 11:05:17 AM  

FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.



Make sure it's the kosher stuff. AND NO BACON BITS.
 
2014-01-05 11:05:45 AM  

tetsoushima: Really, the New York Post again?  Let's try the Daily News.   http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/man-body-found-long-isl a nd-feared-abducted-brooklyn-landlord-article-1.1566192



Based on the pictures of the buildings, I would be afraid for my life even if business was good!
 
2014-01-05 11:05:47 AM  
skeevy420
I was working for him a few years back (desperate and needed the $$$).  One evening he was trying to get us to work more hours, we were 9 hours in during a 100 degree day @ 8/hr, and I said no, I have to get home, my dogs have been locked up for about 10 hours now and I need to let them out.  He suggested that I take my dogs to the pound so they wouldn't be a distraction and I'd be able to work more hours and a "good" job.  I kindly explained how most employers pay skilled workers $15/hr+ for the same job and unskilled's at 10-12, told him to go fark himself, got in my truck, and left.  At the time I had had my dogs for 6 years from puppies, I'm not gonna abandon them so I can make an extra 16 dollars at the wo ...

I hate to be the one to break it to you but you were a bad employee.  You knew the conditions before you ever went to work for him, slum lord or not, and agreed by accepting his offer of employment.  I am not saying that you SHOULD have taken the dogs to the pound (though they probably would have found a better home that someone making only $8.00/hr) but don't white knight yourself for whining and going back on your word thus losing the trust of a job creator.
 
2014-01-05 11:06:21 AM  

foo monkey: Damn it. Not Trump.


Get out of my head!

/ saw American Hustle last night - thought Christian Bale's character was a young Trump at first.
// Wolf of Wall Street was a better movie.
 
2014-01-05 11:06:31 AM  
Police will rule it a suicide.
 
2014-01-05 11:07:02 AM  
Motherfarker still owed me money.
 
2014-01-05 11:07:15 AM  

tampaflacouple: That's some very stylish headgear.....


Looks like a brush from a car wash.
 
2014-01-05 11:07:20 AM  

foo monkey: Damn it. Not Trump.



Well, the slumlord was fired. Literally.
 
2014-01-05 11:08:18 AM  

zimbomba63: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

Hipsters are whacking people now?  I bet they killed him in a ironic fashion.



They killed him before he was popular.
 
2014-01-05 11:08:21 AM  

Tom_Slick: Fissile: To sum up, the leaders of the Hasidim steal to provide for the rank and file so that everyone can live, but no one has to do any actual work.

What about the Diamond District?  Those guys appear to work.


==========

Not all observant Jews are Hasidim.  Many people confuse Orthodox with Hasidim, not the same thing.  The Orthodox generally work at real jobs, or have real businesses.  The Hasidim are another story.
 
2014-01-05 11:08:53 AM  

K3rmy: skeevy420
I was working for him a few years back (desperate and needed the $$$).  One evening he was trying to get us to work more hours, we were 9 hours in during a 100 degree day @ 8/hr, and I said no, I have to get home, my dogs have been locked up for about 10 hours now and I need to let them out.  He suggested that I take my dogs to the pound so they wouldn't be a distraction and I'd be able to work more hours and a "good" job.  I kindly explained how most employers pay skilled workers $15/hr+ for the same job and unskilled's at 10-12, told him to go fark himself, got in my truck, and left.  At the time I had had my dogs for 6 years from puppies, I'm not gonna abandon them so I can make an extra 16 dollars at the wo ...

I hate to be the one to break it to you but you were a bad employee.  You knew the conditions before you ever went to work for him, slum lord or not, and agreed by accepting his offer of employment.  I am not saying that you SHOULD have taken the dogs to the pound (though they probably would have found a better home that someone making only $8.00/hr) but don't white knight yourself for whining and going back on your word thus losing the trust of a job creator.


8/10. Was going to go with 7 but gave you an extra point for job creator.
 
2014-01-05 11:09:53 AM  

CaliNJGuy: What a country!


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-05 11:10:20 AM  
Fissile - thanks for the embellishment. I find this type of community dynamic fascinating.
 
2014-01-05 11:11:51 AM  

Baryogenesis: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

I didn't realize 1,2 and 4 were fark hot buttons and I wouldn't have known that Williamsburg=hipsters without someone saying so.

I feel like a hot button bonanza would be more like an atheist off duty cop was enjoying a well done steak with plenty of A1 and a bud light stands his ground against a smoking hot hipster girl who was brought here as a child when her parents illegally immigrated and she was merely going door to door raising awareness for global warming.


Also, he ordered a specific brand of beer known to be better than your brand with the steak because the restaurant didn't have the type of scotch he prefers to mix with his coke.
 
2014-01-05 11:14:41 AM  
It's the "burned from the waist down" part that has piqued my interest.

Might not be about the money here...
 
2014-01-05 11:17:13 AM  

meathome: It's the "burned from the waist down" part that has piqued my interest.

Might not be about the money here...



Guys should know by now not to stick their dick in fiery.
 
2014-01-05 11:17:32 AM  
Hasidim mafia on Discovery Channel in 3,2,1....
 
2014-01-05 11:19:08 AM  

Mazzic518: Some real assholes on fark as usual....


Death isn't always a sad thing.
 
2014-01-05 11:22:06 AM  
I try really, really hard not to be prejudicial, but when I was in NYC, the Hasidic Jews made it difficult. With very few exceptions, they managed to validate every hateful stereotype leveled against Jews in general, and that really disappointed me, especially as I call several Jewish (non-Hasidic) people friends, and they have been incredible supports to lean on throughout my life. Somehow, I find this whole thing disgusting, but not surprising.
 
2014-01-05 11:22:59 AM  

meathome: Might not be about the money here...


===============

It's possible, but the fact remains that sex abuse is more prevalent in the Hasidic community than it is in the Catholic Church.  Usually it's a some powerful member of the community farking little boys or girls of the rank and file Hasidim, in which case it's ignored, and the victims don't dare call the police.   Maybe this joker was farking the wife or children of a powerful rabbi?  Could be.  The only thing that's known for sure is that Big Furry-Hat has screwed over so many people, in so many ways, there are probably dozens, if not hundreds, of people who would like to see him dead.
 
2014-01-05 11:23:22 AM  

chopit: I sincerely hope it was the father of the teen girl. You forcibly fingerbang my little girl, I choke you to death and light you on fire. If you're lucky, I'll do it in that order.


I doubt it. The mother and father are probably honest people.

This guy appears to have been severely disreputable. The cops probably see this, and filed it under: Solve when stars go cold.
 
2014-01-05 11:32:48 AM  

foo monkey: Damn it. Not Trump.


Came to say the same thing. I only read TFA to make sure.
 
2014-01-05 11:34:01 AM  

buckler: I try really, really hard not to be prejudicial, but when I was in NYC, the Hasidic Jews made it difficult. With very few exceptions, they managed to validate every hateful stereotype leveled against Jews in general, and that really disappointed me, especially as I call several Jewish (non-Hasidic) people friends, and they have been incredible supports to lean on throughout my life. Somehow, I find this whole thing disgusting, but not surprising.


Replace hasidic Jew with Indian and you get my experience. I have never believed in stereotypes until I moved to an area with a slightly higher than usual Indian population. Every single time they see an opportunity to screw you over, they will. Mostly because they would rather try to screw you over to resell what they're buying than try to actually sign up for the same vendor you use because the vendor won't give them as good a cost.

Example: Pepsi 2L 99¢, limit 5. They try to come back 5 times a day to buy it up because they want to resell it. No, limit is 5 per household for the entire sale, not each visit. I told you this last time, and the time before that, and the 15 times before that. And no, you can't use the coupon for a 24 pk can on it. Yes, it scans, no I won't accept it because I won't get reimbursed.
 
2014-01-05 11:34:09 AM  
One down, another thousand, two thousand or so to go.
How many are in the one percent? Yeah, that many to go.
 
2014-01-05 11:38:05 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: jayphat: K3rmy: gwowen: skeevy420: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

5. Forcefully touching a young teen girl

Don't forget:

6. Loan sharking
7. Home foreclosure scams

All of these are accusations have no basis in fact.  Of course people will spew them, especially Farkers, as 1) they are safe behind anonymity and 2) the accused is unable to defend himself (being dead)

What we do have here is a person who is dead under suspicious circumstances.  He did accumulate some material assets before his death.  He provided a place to live to others for a monthly fee.

Anything else is pure conjecture, be it kicking puppies or helping with Little Suzie's bake sale.

The foreclosure scam was pretty easy to prove. While its not 100% for certain, 98% is close enough.

You need to add 'landlord' to that list. You pretty much have to "sell your soul to the devil" to live with that title.

This just in..Being devoutly religious is a very handy cover for evil people.

Just look at the mafioso types who make a huge deal about the RC church. It's good PR for them to be seen in mass every Sunday.


They believe that God wouldn't have created "sheep", without, also, creating someone to "shear" them.

There a lot of scams in tight ultra-religious communities.  The scamster is one of them, so he has their trust, right from the start.  Then, all he needs are greedy people.  For a scam to work, the "mark" must be greedy.  So greedy, that it makes them stupid. Otherwise, how else would very successful people be taken for large amounts of money, by some of these idiotic schemes.
 
2014-01-05 11:40:15 AM  
This is what happens when you park in a spot that someone else just shoveled out.
 
2014-01-05 11:42:33 AM  

gwowen: skeevy420: FrancoFile: This has the potential to be an epic thread.  Let's see how many Fark hot-buttons we're touching.

1. NY Post
2. Hasidic Jew
3. Williamsburg aka hipsterville
4. Real estate

Excuse me while I got get the popcorn maker out of the pantry.

5. Forcefully touching a young teen girl

Don't forget:

6. Loan sharking
7. Home foreclosure scams


8. huge Rush fan
9. bicycled a lot
 
2014-01-05 11:42:53 AM  
There's always the obvious:

Somebody wanted to make a statement, the body was found.
I guarantee one thing, somebody felt like they had accomplished something at the end of the day.
 
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