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2014-01-05 01:20:58 AM  
I thought it was just a common courtesy to not run over people.  Are those who don't thank the drivers going to be fined?
 
2014-01-05 01:42:42 AM  

harleyquinnical: I thought it was just a common courtesy to not run over people.  Are those who don't thank the drivers going to be fined?


You'd think so, but no. I guess it depends on where you're from. When I was a senior at University of Arizona, my best friend, Greg, was from Queens. He had a friend visit him from New York who was also interested in going to school in Arizona. We were hanging out one day, walking around campus, Greg was telling his friend how different it was from New York. We got to a crosswalk that wasn't at an intersection, and Greg looks at his friend and says, "Watch this."

He stepped into the street, and all four lanes (it wasn't incredibly busy, but still...) of traffic came to a stop. His friend says, "Holy shiat! They stopped?" We crossed the street and Greg's friend was laughing his ass off.
 
2014-01-05 02:13:54 AM  
Okay, you have a point about geography playing a part.  I forget that the Seattle area is marginally less polite than Canada.
 
2014-01-05 02:30:27 AM  
If a car stops for me on a pedestrian crossing I always acknowledge them with a nod or a 'thank you'. I think it's just polite, and I think it helps for 'next time'

But I'm living on the outskirts of Sydney, not Miami, so I wouldn't know what was normal for them.
 
2014-01-05 02:35:58 AM  
Up next, a new line of Hallmark cards to thank people for bathing and wiping their ass.
 
2014-01-05 03:00:27 AM  

bunner: Up next, a new line of Hallmark cards to thank people for bathing and wiping their ass.


I don't think there will be much of a demand for those among Farkers.
 
2014-01-05 08:37:10 AM  
The most powerful I ever feel is waving pedestrians to walk in front of my car. "Go forth, and trust that I will not kill you."
 
2014-01-05 08:48:25 AM  
I wait until I get safely across the street and flip them off...
 
2014-01-05 08:54:49 AM  

ktybear: If a car stops for me on a pedestrian crossing I always acknowledge them with a nod or a 'thank you'. I think it's just polite, and I think it helps for 'next time'

But I'm living on the outskirts of Sydney, not Miami, so I wouldn't know what was normal for them.


I do the same, but I always find myself wondering if I shouldn't. They're SUPPOSED to stop for pedestrians. I do it when I drive, and don't expect thanks. It seems like the beginning of a slippery slope to me.
 
2014-01-05 08:56:12 AM  
I always give them a little thank you wave. I want to encourage that type of behavior.
 
2014-01-05 08:58:09 AM  

edmo: I always give them a little thank you wave. I want to encourage that type of behavior.


You also have to do the 3-step trot.  You can't just mosey across the road.
 
2014-01-05 09:04:00 AM  
I live in downtown DC, and most of crosswalks have a 'stop' sign that if a pedestrian is in the walk, you have to stop. I still wave to every driver that does because I want them to know I appreciate the courtesy.
 
2014-01-05 09:05:00 AM  

FrancoFile: edmo: I always give them a little thank you wave. I want to encourage that type of behavior.

You also have to do the 3-step trot.  You can't just mosey across the road.


I'm in Montreal, which is dangerous for pedestrians (and cyclists).

I use the old "make eye contact and make sure they see that you see them seeing you".

And then nervously eye the hood or the grill of their car as you hurry past.
 
2014-01-05 09:05:22 AM  

FrancoFile: edmo: I always give them a little thank you wave. I want to encourage that type of behavior.

You also have to do the 3-step trot.  You can't just mosey across the road.


That sort of courtesy and intelligence will not be tolerated here.
 
2014-01-05 09:06:42 AM  
Living in the heart of suburbia I find that rich white people are the worst when it comes to stopping for pedestrians in crosswalks. We even have signs at nearly every crosswalk saying "State law to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks"  or somesuch, but people blow through them without a second thought. Even cops. They want us to thank people for stopping? Hell no. If you see a Merc, BMW, Audi, or Lexus coming down the road you cross at the risk of your own life.
 
2014-01-05 09:07:28 AM  
Cross with the farking light you assholes.
 
2014-01-05 09:08:43 AM  
Crosswalk etiquette varies from town to town even within a state.  I hate people that kind of congregate near a crosswalk without showing any solid intention of what the hell they're doing.  The only trend I've seen lately is selfish clowns strolling slowly across a road with their face fixed firmly in the screen.  Stupid teens seniors people.

When I finally work out my supreme world dictator plan, it will be legal to shoot selfish people who waste your time with permanent staining paintball pellets.

Everyone should move briskly and attentively around crosswalks, except old people.  I once stopped for an old guy, he tried to rush across, lost his balance and did a face plant.  I had to stop and get him back on his feet, old people should take their time, but everyone else should just pretend they aren't the center of the universe.
 
2014-01-05 09:11:41 AM  

Night Night Cream Puff: Living in the heart of suburbia I find that rich white people are the worst when it comes to stopping for pedestrians in crosswalks. We even have signs at nearly every crosswalk saying "State law to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks"  or somesuch, but people blow through them without a second thought. Even cops. They want us to thank people for stopping? Hell no. If you see a Merc, BMW, Audi, or Lexus coming down the road you cross at the risk of your own life.


I can't find it now, but there was a piece in the Washington Post about how BMWs never stop for pedestrians or cyclists with the right of way. I find that to be a pretty solid rule.

/love how BMWs drive, but not how they're driven
 
2014-01-05 09:13:32 AM  
I do this, but I'm Canadian. Felt like I should apologize for making traffic stop at wait.
 
2014-01-05 09:19:50 AM  
They have the same exact crossing feature on a few places on the Pinellas Trail over here on the west coast of Fla.

It's not for a traffic light but for a blinking sign that says someone's trying to cross the trail.  Unlike a traffic signal, it does not go from green to yellow to red, but rather just begins to flash w/o warning to the driver.  And, as far as I know, is not an enforceable traffic signal.

So yeah, wave and thank the driver for stopping and paying attention to the multi-use trail that intersects the road. I don't see anything wrong with that.
 
2014-01-05 09:21:23 AM  
I'd like to extend this to all drivers anywhere. I wish there was some kind of anti-horn, or "good-job" horn. Every once in a while a driver does exactly the right thing (yielding the passing lane on the highway, for example) and I want to say thank you, but I'm always afraid that any gesture I make will come off wrong.
 
2014-01-05 09:21:49 AM  
When driving or walking, the best SOP is to act the way you would want other people to act if the roles were reversed. If a car stops for you at a crosswalk, walk briskly and don't waste that driver's time waiting for you. If you are in a left turn lane at a light, move as quickly as is safe so the line of cars behind you doesn't get stuck at the light. Put your turn-signal on BEFORE you use your brakes when approaching your turn. Do not be over-the-top courteous by stopping when making a left turn so the driver on the side street can make a left turn in front of you unless traffic is already slow, you may get rear-ended by surprising the driver behind you. Unexpected stops cause accidents. If you are in a spot in a parking lot, don't be the statistical asshole that purposely makes the driver waiting for the spot wait an additional 10 seconds for you to pull out. It all comes down to situational awareness and common courtesy.
 
2014-01-05 09:25:03 AM  

jakomo002: FrancoFile: edmo: I always give them a little thank you wave. I want to encourage that type of behavior.

You also have to do the 3-step trot.  You can't just mosey across the road.

I'm in Montreal, which is dangerous for pedestrians (and cyclists).

I use the old "make eye contact and make sure they see that you see them seeing you".

And then nervously eye the hood or the grill of their car as you hurry past.


This. It annoys me to see in Charlottesville dips hits walking out into the road without looking either way or only briefly noting there is a car present.

I even like to walk behind a lead car at one lane intersections so the front car can go if the cross traffic lets up.
 
2014-01-05 09:26:01 AM  

MarkEC: When driving or walking, the best SOP is to act the way you would want other people to act if the roles were reversed. If a car stops for you at a crosswalk, walk briskly and don't waste that driver's time waiting for you. If you are in a left turn lane at a light, move as quickly as is safe so the line of cars behind you doesn't get stuck at the light. Put your turn-signal on BEFORE you use your brakes when approaching your turn. Do not be over-the-top courteous by stopping when making a left turn so the driver on the side street can make a left turn in front of you unless traffic is already slow, you may get rear-ended by surprising the driver behind you. Unexpected stops cause accidents. If you are in a spot in a parking lot, don't be the statistical asshole that purposely makes the driver waiting for the spot wait an additional 10 seconds for you to pull out. It all comes down to situational awareness and common courtesy.


It's a trick. Get an axe.
 
2014-01-05 09:27:38 AM  

harleyquinnical: Okay, you have a point about geography playing a part.  I forget that the Seattle area is marginally less polite than Canada.


It is geographical, but it's even more localized than you might think.

Here in NJ, it is law all over to stop for pedestrians. But only at crosswalks. You can run them over if they are jaywalking. But even still... That law only seems to apply in places like Princeton or Trenton, where there are a ton of people walking. Drivers always obey the laws there. But outside of those areas, your playing with your life if you don't watch out.
 
2014-01-05 09:29:06 AM  
I always give a friendly wave to people who who stop for me. But for those who don't, I throw myself into their grill screaming and then roll my twitching blood-spattered body onto their hood. This sometimes gets their attention but sometimes I also have to text them about my health insurance provider, next of kin, etc...
 
2014-01-05 09:32:18 AM  

Lettuce Pray: I'd like to extend this to all drivers anywhere. I wish there was some kind of anti-horn, or "good-job" horn. Every once in a while a driver does exactly the right thing (yielding the passing lane on the highway, for example) and I want to say thank you, but I'm always afraid that any gesture I make will come off wrong.


It's like the 'Like' button on Facebook. Occasionally I want a button that says 'man, that sucks' like when someone's mom dies.
 
2014-01-05 09:37:16 AM  
CSB:
I was in Orlando, FL with my brother at an intersection waiting for the light. When the walk light (and the green light) came on, We started across the street and a Cadillac whipped in front of us and cut us off. I thumped the rear fender as it passed. The driver screeched to a halt and jumped out and started yelling at me. He looked like a linebacker. I yelled back something (from a safe distance) about pedestrians having the right of way. I was preparing to run when his wife said something like "Bruno, get back in the car and quit making a fool of yourself!" He thankfully followed his wife's instructions. When I thumped the car, I never thought he would actually stop and want to fight. I was much younger then.

/CSB
 
2014-01-05 09:40:44 AM  
Well. given the fact that so many Canadian "Snowbirds" like to overwinter down in the derp state is this surprising?
 
2014-01-05 09:41:26 AM  
When pedestrians pay road tax, they can use the road. Until then, they can stay on the sidewalk.
 
2014-01-05 09:55:25 AM  

SpdrJay: I wait until I get safely across the street and flip them off...


I'm okay with that, as I am not above driving on the sidewalk.  You are athletic right, if not you're about to be.
 
2014-01-05 09:56:03 AM  
I will tell you why people drive like shiat it in Miami.  And it ain't the snowbirds because they are too scared of the brown folk to winter their anymore, except for a few stalwart old Jews.

The problem is that the majority of the population in Miami is Latin American and either learned to drive in Latin America or was taught to drive by someone in Latin America.

So you have legions of people who do not pay attention to stop signs, speed limits, traffic signals, traffic laws or basic common courtesy when out motorvating.
 
2014-01-05 09:58:41 AM  
We thank them mostly because we're shocked they actually stopped for pedestrians.
 
2014-01-05 10:01:20 AM  

theflatline: I will tell you why people drive like shiat it in Miami.  And it ain't the snowbirds because they are too scared of the brown folk to winter their anymore, except for a few stalwart old Jews.

The problem is that the majority of the population in Miami is Latin American and either learned to drive in Latin America or was taught to drive by someone in Latin America.

So you have legions of people who do not pay attention to stop signs, speed limits, traffic signals, traffic laws or basic common courtesy when out motorvating.


Here in DC the messicans stop the second a light turns yellow, and leave like 10 feet in front of them at a stop light. In fact, they drive like they are afraid to get pulled over, if you know what I mean.
 
2014-01-05 10:05:38 AM  
I've never met worse drivers than in Miami. I was at a stop light and when the light turned green they started honking. These people have the reflexes of drag racers in order to see that shiat changing so fast. Of course that forced me to creep slowly through the stop light until it nearly turned yellow causing massive road rage behind me. Fark 'em, lay off the horn and don't be a douche canoe.
 
2014-01-05 10:13:43 AM  
This is also covered under another two laws.    Road Rage and Stand Your Ground.
 
2014-01-05 10:22:00 AM  
If you are going to thank the driver, please be sure to know what language they speak BECAUSE no one in Miami speaks English.
 
2014-01-05 10:23:06 AM  

Churchill92: I've never met worse drivers than in Miami. I was at a stop light and when the light turned green they started honking. These people have the reflexes of drag racers in order to see that shiat changing so fast. Of course that forced me to creep slowly through the stop light until it nearly turned yellow causing massive road rage behind me. Fark 'em, lay off the horn and don't be a douche canoe.


You don't see any problems with your behavior?  You're going to punish everyone behind you because one guy toots his horn?  What a paragon of virtue you are.
 
2014-01-05 10:27:24 AM  
In Portland, it's a law that drivers are to stop for any pedestrian taking a step onto the street. It's amazing to walk off the curb and see traffic stop cold. I don't know about anyone else, but I always say or wave my thanks.
 
2014-01-05 10:29:33 AM  
Not sure about any of you, but when I lived in LA and the surrounding areas, I'd frequently give a nod to drivers who'd stopped to let me cross the street or open my hand in the tiniest of waves.

Then again, maybe it was just one of those "I acknowledge" things that humans sometimes do.
 
opk
2014-01-05 10:31:51 AM  

Rueened: When pedestrians pay road tax, they can use the road. Until then, they can stay on the sidewalk.


Not that I want to be "that guy" or whatever, but, the gasoline tax is only a small portion of a highway departments funding.  A lot of it, especially at the local level, comes through property and sales taxes.
 
2014-01-05 10:32:29 AM  

Winterlight: The most powerful I ever feel is waving pedestrians to walk in front of my car. "Go forth, and trust that I will not kill you."


The best part is waiting for them to get halfway across, and then gunning the engine.
 
2014-01-05 10:43:28 AM  
Donté Stallworth nods in approval
 
2014-01-05 10:54:31 AM  
I declare shenanigans. Everybody knows there are no pedestrians in Florida.
 
2014-01-05 10:55:07 AM  

tampaflacouple: If you are going to thank the driver, please be sure to know what language they speak BECAUSE no one in Miami speaks English.


I wasn't aware a smile, nod, and/or simple wave differed by language.  FL must be a lost cause.
 
2014-01-05 11:17:21 AM  
I don't have a problem with this.  Saying thank you is just a way of being polite.  What is wrong with being polite to one another?  Only the greenie, envirodouche, hippie types see an issue there.  BTW, the road is for cars.  People on foot often slow down traffic by taking far too long to get across intersections.  They should be thankful and/or apologetic.
 
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2014-01-05 11:21:58 AM  
Somebody should invent a device that activates a rumble strip upstream of the crosswalk when a pedestrian presses a button.
 
2014-01-05 11:24:34 AM  

opk: Rueened: When pedestrians pay road tax, they can use the road. Until then, they can stay on the sidewalk.

Not that I want to be "that guy" or whatever, but, the gasoline tax is only a small portion of a highway departments funding.  A lot of it, especially at the local level, comes through property and sales taxes.


Which pedestrians obviously pay, since they so financially successful, right?
 
2014-01-05 11:36:16 AM  
I can't wait for the Stand Your Ground people to start plugging pedestrians for fear of carjackings.
 
2014-01-05 12:14:39 PM  

Ker_Thwap: Churchill92: I've never met worse drivers than in Miami. I was at a stop light and when the light turned green they started honking. These people have the reflexes of drag racers in order to see that shiat changing so fast. Of course that forced me to creep slowly through the stop light until it nearly turned yellow causing massive road rage behind me. Fark 'em, lay off the horn and don't be a douche canoe.

You don't see any problems with your behavior?  You're going to punish everyone behind you because one guy toots his horn?  What a paragon of virtue you are.


That's nothing.  He also failed to mention that he was staring down at his phone instead of watching the light.

I ride a motorcycle which sits me up a bit higher than most cars, so I can see when people are doing this, and they do it ALL the farking time.  Stopped in traffic?  Look down at the phone.  Red light?  Look down at the phone.  It's like their Facebook feed is vitally important, and operating a 2-ton piece of steel is an afterthought.

I used to give people three seconds after the light change, and then I'd honk.  Now, if I see them looking down while we're stopped, I just go around them as soon as the light changes.
 
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