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(New York Daily News)   Hello LaGuardia Airport: Can we have runway Major Deegan Expressway? We're coming in low   ( divider line
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2014-01-04 06:53:05 PM  
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LemSkroob: Cute, but those types of aircraft don't use LGA.

Teterboro would have been the closest airport that takes private aircraft.

Pilot was on tour of Statue of Liberty and ran into trouble, declared it, and headed to nearest airport. At that point he can use any airport he wants, he is in control. Also about 2% of LGA's traffic according to Airnav is general aviation and they do sell 100LL as well as JET-A
2014-01-05 09:56:35 PM  
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touchandgoes: inglixthemad: TuteTibiImperes: What's the aftermath of something like this?  Does the pilot get fined?  Do they do an investigation into what happened to the plane to see if he was at fault or if it was just a freak mechanical failure?  Or, does he just have to pay to have it towed away from the freeway and fly again as soon as its repaired?

NTSB checks the accident over, pilot files a report with NASA accident group, and it all depends. Likely he screwed up and gets an FAA ride (skills check) with a Pilot Examiner. He didn't do anything that was nuts, or act erratically.

This thing is parts now. Fined? Not likely, but his insurance is likely to take a jump.

I say he needs to work on his landings, that was terrible.

A small plane can land without power. Heck, you practice short power loss landings constantly in training. You're in the pattern, the instructor yanks the power (engine dead) and your ~1000' AGL, parallel to the runway. You have to get there without stalling, and land. After the first couple tries you should be able to recite the whole procedure in your head, and pull it off without trying. Small planes have an 8.5:1 to 10:1 glide ratio on average.

An accident investigation will undoubtedly take place.  The NTSB usually leads the investigations involving small GA aircraft.  If it wasn't pilot error (80% of accidents are), then no fines should be assessed.  The end result from the NTSB will have recommendations of items to fix that they forward to the FAA.  It's up to the FAA to provide further research or implement those recommendations.  Fun fact:  They usually do nothing.
It seems as if his engine quit.  If that is the case, then the next step is to find out why.  All engines have a TBO (Time between overhaul) measured in hours.  If this guy was operating his aircraft beyond the engine manufacturer's recommended TBO, then the owner of the aircraft / pilot in command is at fault.  If an aircraft does not fly many hours throughout the years, the on ...

I'm wagering fuel starvation due to lack of fuel planning or due to carb icing.

As far as TBO, it's a non-turbo, and I've seen guys flying them 3000+ hours (in that plane normal TBO would be 2000) if they take care of them. Unless it's 'for hire', the TBO is a recommendation, and even for hire 172's (flight school trainers) often get exemptions from the FAA to allow an engine in good order not be overhauled for extra time. Fun fact: infant mortality (250 hours or less on a new or overhauled engine) causes more inflight engine stoppages than being over TBO.

Turbo (and Turbo-Normalized) engines run properly only need more overhauls because the turbo itself (usually the exhaust inlet parts, bearings) are subjected to extreme temperatures and wear. Turbos spin FAST and that's what causes the wear on the pieces other than the exhaust blades. We learned a lot about turbos studying up when we purchased the Acclaim...

The gear looks like he pinned the landing hard. I've seen gear clipped in the trees, and then damaged further on landing, and they aren't bent like that. That looks like he hard-pinned one wheel and dragged the plane a bit to the side before pinning the other. That's more than a little scary because the 140/150/160 series of planes is used as trainers as well. They have pretty tough gear, hence why I think he needs a check ride for that landing.
2014-01-04 07:06:25 PM  
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LemSkroob: Cute, but those types of aircraft don't use LGA.

Teterboro would have been the closest airport that takes private aircraft.

You think people are gonna seriously use this thread to discuss things legitimately and not just post AIRPLANE! quotes? Surely you can't be serious.
2014-01-04 06:51:39 PM  
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The miracle part was they were not beaten to death by cutting off drivers in the Bronx.
2014-01-04 06:40:58 PM  
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That doesn't look like all that miraculous of a landing.
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