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(Guardian)   Massive weekend in the UK as the FA Cup goes into the third round. Notable games this weekend are Man City kicking off at Blackburn, Everton hosting QPR, Cardiff at Newcastle, and of course a North London Derby between Arsenal and Spurs   (theguardian.com) divider line 328
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2014-01-04 07:41:26 AM  
Also, the lowest-ranked competitor still in the competition is Macclesfield Town. The team is right on the edge of being broke, but if they somehow pull off a win today, it might keep them afloat for a little while longer. A win today against Sheffield Wednesday will help them meet their payroll through the end of next month.
 
2014-01-04 07:43:22 AM  
It's always the way that Arsenal get to play Spurs right as Spurs' fortunes begin to slightly improve. Usually previous form doesn't matter in games like this, but it's always nice to know that in the run up to a game you have an edge over your opponent.
 
2014-01-04 07:46:37 AM  
FFPL report to appear next week.

Why did this have to be Solskjaer's first game?
 
2014-01-04 07:48:38 AM  
I heard a good one yesterday - the FA Cup winner should get the 4th Champions League spot. Discuss
 
2014-01-04 07:48:57 AM  

Slaxl: It's always the way that Arsenal get to play Spurs right as Spurs' fortunes begin to slightly improve. Usually previous form doesn't matter in games like this, but it's always nice to know that in the run up to a game you have an edge over your opponent.


Tottenham has a bunch of injuries, so that might affect them a bit. Let's see if Arsenal's defense can handle and in-form Adebayor and Townsend's speed now that he's back. With all three of Arsenal's strikers out, who will play up top?
 
2014-01-04 07:53:48 AM  

SmackLT: Slaxl: It's always the way that Arsenal get to play Spurs right as Spurs' fortunes begin to slightly improve. Usually previous form doesn't matter in games like this, but it's always nice to know that in the run up to a game you have an edge over your opponent.

Tottenham has a bunch of injuries, so that might affect them a bit. Let's see if Arsenal's defense can handle and in-form Adebayor and Townsend's speed now that he's back. With all three of Arsenal's strikers out, who will play up top?


Walcott and Podolski should be available, so my guess is Podolski up front.
 
2014-01-04 07:55:45 AM  

Cajnik: I heard a good one yesterday - the FA Cup winner should get the 4th Champions League spot. Discuss


Not seeing it. The CL should be awarded based on long term performance. Teams have fluked cup wins for a long time, yet proven when it comes to the weekly grind, they've got nothing. Keep it Europa League. For example, Birmingham and Wigan.
 
2014-01-04 08:00:42 AM  

Cajnik: I heard a good one yesterday - the FA Cup winner should get the 4th Champions League spot. Discuss


I'm fairly sure that CL qualification is defined by UEFA* rather than national bodies/leagues.
That isn't me saying I'm against the idea, just that it is probably not practical.

* 2.04 on pg. 2 gives it as 'sporting merit':  http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/competitions / Regulations/01/63/02/44/1630244_DOWNLOAD.pdf which could be interpreted as allowing it, but 2.01 specifically sez league position.
 
2014-01-04 08:03:17 AM  

ADubs86: Cajnik: I heard a good one yesterday - the FA Cup winner should get the 4th Champions League spot. Discuss

Not seeing it. The CL should be awarded based on long term performance. Teams have fluked cup wins for a long time, yet proven when it comes to the weekly grind, they've got nothing. Keep it Europa League. For example, Birmingham and Wigan.


That's the first thing I thought of. Wigan would have in been in the CL - Wigan, who didn't do shiat with their Europa League spot this year. But that would have meant a lot of dirty CL money for the club who went down.

However, there's been a lot of comments this week now that the big boys dropped in the competition that it's not as illustrious as it used to be. Maybe the push for the 4th spot would force Prem League sides field full teams. Man City made 7 changes to today's team, for example.

But I also realize the majority of Farkers follow EPL clubs which every year have a realistic shot at breaking the top four, so I doubt there will be much love for that idea.
 
2014-01-04 08:08:45 AM  
sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Home against Watford today. We've made the 3rd round 8 seasons straight, and even qualified for it twice!
 
2014-01-04 08:08:53 AM  

Slaxl: Walcott and Podolski should be available, so my guess is Podolski up front.


Isn't he most effective as a winger, though? It seems that both Podolski and Walcott aren't particularly effective in the middle, but both are dangerous cutting in from wide.
 
2014-01-04 08:12:52 AM  

sephjnr: [sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk image 443x500]

Home against Watford today. We've made the 3rd round 8 seasons straight, and even qualified for it twice!


Gules on the sinister side a Castle with two towers domed all argent on each dome a Banner charged with the Cross of St. George the Castle on a Mount Vert the dexter base Water proper thereon a Ship of three masts Or the rigging Sable sailing from a port in the dexter tower her fore and main masts being visible and on each a round top of the fifth on the foremast a sail set and on the mainmast a sail furled of the second

The arms were officially granted on August 24, 1569.
The arms are based on the early seals of Bristol, from which the ship and castle theme (signifying a strongly fortified harbour) developed. The shield was in use from about the 14th century, and to this supporters and crest were added in 1569. 
The significance of these various items is recorded in the City Audit Books of this time:- the Unicorns will only do homage to men of virtue; the arms in the crest signify that good government depends on wisdom (the serpent) and justice (the scales) and that these are divine gifts from above.


http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Bristol
 
2014-01-04 08:12:55 AM  

Cajnik: I heard a good one yesterday - the FA Cup winner should get the 4th Champions League spot. Discuss


The reason they go to the Europa League is because that cup stepped in the vacuum created by the dissolving of the Cup Winners Cup. The CL's been expanded enough as it is, since it used to be pretty much champions-only. Give the small countries a chance to get a representative in. You never know when the next APOEL might happen.
 
2014-01-04 08:14:12 AM  

Cajnik: ADubs86: Cajnik: I heard a good one yesterday - the FA Cup winner should get the 4th Champions League spot. Discuss

Not seeing it. The CL should be awarded based on long term performance. Teams have fluked cup wins for a long time, yet proven when it comes to the weekly grind, they've got nothing. Keep it Europa League. For example, Birmingham and Wigan.

That's the first thing I thought of. Wigan would have in been in the CL - Wigan, who didn't do shiat with their Europa League spot this year. But that would have meant a lot of dirty CL money for the club who went down.

However, there's been a lot of comments this week now that the big boys dropped in the competition that it's not as illustrious as it used to be. Maybe the push for the 4th spot would force Prem League sides field full teams. Man City made 7 changes to today's team, for example.

But I also realize the majority of Farkers follow EPL clubs which every year have a realistic shot at breaking the top four, so I doubt there will be much love for that idea.


The problem is that the very top teams are going for the CL money so don't want or need the extra games and play the reserves, the teams at the bottom want to cling on to the Premier League like grim death for the money so throw everything into the league and the FA cup can hang, the only teams that can spare the reseources for a cup run are those mid table sides who can't make the CL spots but a day out at Wembly is a succesful season.

The way to get teams interested in a FA Cup run is money. if the winner gets £20 or £30 million then the accountants will make the managers play strong teams. For an example £30million will almost wipe out Chelsea's debt from last season for not making the knock out rounds of the CL
 
2014-01-04 08:18:07 AM  

midpoint: sephjnr: [sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk image 443x500]

Home against Watford today. We've made the 3rd round 8 seasons straight, and even qualified for it twice!

Gules on the sinister side a Castle with two towers domed all argent on each dome a Banner charged with the Cross of St. George the Castle on a Mount Vert the dexter base Water proper thereon a Ship of three masts Or the rigging Sable sailing from a port in the dexter tower her fore and main masts being visible and on each a round top of the fifth on the foremast a sail set and on the mainmast a sail furled of the second

The arms were officially granted on August 24, 1569.
The arms are based on the early seals of Bristol, from which the ship and castle theme (signifying a strongly fortified harbour) developed. The shield was in use from about the 14th century, and to this supporters and crest were added in 1569. 
The significance of these various items is recorded in the City Audit Books of this time:- the Unicorns will only do homage to men of virtue; the arms in the crest signify that good government depends on wisdom (the serpent) and justice (the scales) and that these are divine gifts from above.


http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Bristol


You're drunk this early?
 
2014-01-04 08:19:50 AM  
Also Mark Clattenburg was a stinky poo and called Adam Lallana names in a game. Southampton FC told teacher who told them to grow up and are now angry.
 
2014-01-04 08:23:58 AM  

Norfolking Chance: Also Mark Clattenburg was a stinky poo and called Adam Lallana names in a game. Southampton FC told teacher who told them to grow up and are now angry.


"You're different now you've played for England. You're better than this" != "You've played for England and now you think you're Bertie Big Bollocks".

I think it should be in a ref's remit to control behaviour as he sees it and as long as he's not resorting to name calling, violent behaviour or bias towards a team / towards an "even game".
 
2014-01-04 08:27:08 AM  

Norfolking Chance: Also Mark Clattenburg was a stinky poo and called Adam Lallana names in a game. Southampton FC told teacher who told them to grow up and are now angry.


I can see why they'd be annoyed, but trying to dismiss a referee entirely from all their matches just because he made a sharp comment in a game to one player seems a bit much.
 
2014-01-04 08:31:36 AM  

Norfolking Chance: Also Mark Clattenburg was a stinky poo and called Adam Lallana names in a game. Southampton FC told teacher who told them to grow up and are now angry.


Your interpretation was the same as mine - 'get a grip'.
 
2014-01-04 08:32:51 AM  

sephjnr: midpoint: sephjnr: [sephjnr.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk image 443x500]

Home against Watford today. We've made the 3rd round 8 seasons straight, and even qualified for it twice!

Gules on the sinister side a Castle with two towers domed all argent on each dome a Banner charged with the Cross of St. George the Castle on a Mount Vert the dexter base Water proper thereon a Ship of three masts Or the rigging Sable sailing from a port in the dexter tower her fore and main masts being visible and on each a round top of the fifth on the foremast a sail set and on the mainmast a sail furled of the second

The arms were officially granted on August 24, 1569.
The arms are based on the early seals of Bristol, from which the ship and castle theme (signifying a strongly fortified harbour) developed. The shield was in use from about the 14th century, and to this supporters and crest were added in 1569. 
The significance of these various items is recorded in the City Audit Books of this time:- the Unicorns will only do homage to men of virtue; the arms in the crest signify that good government depends on wisdom (the serpent) and justice (the scales) and that these are divine gifts from above.


http://www.ngw.nl/heraldrywiki/index.php?title=Bristol

You're drunk this early?


The language is the rather archaic jargon of heraldry. Devised sometime before full-colour laser printing.
 
2014-01-04 08:33:06 AM  
Blackburn loses concentration in the final seconds of the first half. Negredo reminds them why you don't do that
 
2014-01-04 08:50:12 AM  
Surprised City only has one goal in this so far.

Also, Keisuke Honda is finishing up signing for AC Milan and Lewandowski has signed a 5 year deal for Bayern.
 
2014-01-04 08:54:07 AM  

midpoint: Norfolking Chance: Also Mark Clattenburg was a stinky poo and called Adam Lallana names in a game. Southampton FC told teacher who told them to grow up and are now angry.

Your interpretation was the same as mine - 'get a grip'.


Yep, i would put a lot of money on Lallana and the rest of Southampton saying far far worse than that to Clattenburg so they need to stop this substandard SAF crap and stop being a laughing stock.
 
2014-01-04 08:59:03 AM  
That was a cracking header, but still the keeper has to be disappointed.
 
2014-01-04 09:01:59 AM  

ADubs86: Lewandowski has signed a 5 year deal for Bayern


Man, who saw that coming...

Besides everybody, I mean
 
2014-01-04 09:07:31 AM  
Well, it was nice knowing you, Blackburn. Citeh always goes to another level with Yaya on.
 
2014-01-04 09:10:15 AM  

SmackLT: ADubs86: Lewandowski has signed a 5 year deal for Bayern

Man, who saw that coming...

Besides everybody, I mean


I honestly thought he wasn't gone til summer.
That pretty much makes Bayern a lock for a CL final run now doesn't it? They've got top class starters and backups for almost every position.
 
2014-01-04 09:10:56 AM  

ADubs86: SmackLT: ADubs86: Lewandowski has signed a 5 year deal for Bayern

Man, who saw that coming...

Besides everybody, I mean

I honestly thought he wasn't gone til summer.
That pretty much makes Bayern a lock for a CL final run now doesn't it? They've got top class starters and backups for almost every position.


They can't use him for the CL though. Isn't he cup-locked?
 
2014-01-04 09:12:05 AM  

ADubs86: SmackLT: ADubs86: Lewandowski has signed a 5 year deal for Bayern

Man, who saw that coming...

Besides everybody, I mean

I honestly thought he wasn't gone til summer.
That pretty much makes Bayern a lock for a CL final run now doesn't it? They've got top class starters and backups for almost every position.


Scariest club team in the world right now.
 
2014-01-04 09:18:00 AM  

Princip's Sandwich: They can't use him for the CL though. Isn't he cup-locked?


He is, but what does Bayern care? They can play Lewa in the club games to give Mandžukić a rest so that he's sharp for Champions League games.
 
2014-01-04 09:18:08 AM  
I work in a pub about 10 minutes from Emirates stadium.

Today is going to suck.
 
2014-01-04 09:18:57 AM  
I'm hoping for a draw here, because the best chance of slowing City down is a fixture backlog.

However, my head says that City get one more, and then run out easy winners as Blackburn try too hard to get back into it and leave gaps at the back.
 
2014-01-04 09:22:17 AM  

gordoLDN: I work in a pub about 10 minutes from Emirates stadium.

Today is going to suck.


Why is it going to suck? People drinking too much and being rowdier than usual?
 
2014-01-04 09:25:36 AM  

Princip's Sandwich: They can't use him for the CL though. Isn't he cup-locked?


Yes, but they now have an incredible advantage that no one else has: They can basically field a top class league team AND a top class CL team without having to overextend themselves. Play Robert in the league, Mario in the CL.
 
2014-01-04 09:28:06 AM  
Citeh down to 10 men. That was a pretty shameless tackle.
 
2014-01-04 09:28:58 AM  
This game just got VERY interesting
 
2014-01-04 09:30:52 AM  

Princip's Sandwich: Citeh down to 10 men. That was a pretty shameless tackle.


He basically swept the leg.

And then turned to the ref, arms out, and said "What? What did I do?"
 
2014-01-04 09:32:21 AM  
This looks set to become a replay.
 
2014-01-04 09:32:52 AM  
Boyata sent packing. Cupset alert?
 
2014-01-04 09:34:39 AM  

czetie: I'm hoping for a draw here, because the best chance of slowing City down is a fixture backlog.


Looking very good for that at the moment, but how great would it be if Blackburn stole this?
 
2014-01-04 09:36:03 AM  

SmackLT: czetie: I'm hoping for a draw here, because the best chance of slowing City down is a fixture backlog.

Looking very good for that at the moment, but how great would it be if Blackburn stole this?


I wouldn't be sad. And Blackburn really have to go for this right now, or face a replay away with City back to full strength.
 
2014-01-04 09:36:15 AM  

SmackLT: gordoLDN: I work in a pub about 10 minutes from Emirates stadium.

Today is going to suck.

Why is it going to suck? People drinking too much and being rowdier than usual?


Well, we don't show the game and we allow both home and away fans in - so basically we get slammed for a few hours before and after the game whilst every douche bag from Tottenham and West London and the home counties (Arsenal fans don't actually live in north london) screams for '6 pints 'a lager!'. That and there's the potential for violence... but we've managed to avoid that thus far.
 
2014-01-04 09:37:21 AM  
Is Arsenal-Sp*rs really not on TV in the states?

Nice programming decision.
 
2014-01-04 09:37:43 AM  
Mission accomplished, Blackburn.
 
2014-01-04 09:39:31 AM  

mitchcumstein1: Is Arsenal-Sp*rs really not on TV in the states?

Nice programming decision.


It's on Fox.
 
2014-01-04 09:40:21 AM  
Replay at the Etihad. Hopefully the fixture list will keep most of City's first team away.
 
2014-01-04 09:41:48 AM  

ADubs86: Replay at the Etihad. Hopefully the fixture list will keep most of City's first team away.


Not that it did them any good for the Wigan game. I'm just hoping that Blackburn makes Citeh tire their team out on that game too.
 
2014-01-04 09:45:08 AM  
Spurs against Arsenal?

Do yourself a favor and pick up Marina Sirtis tweeting during the match. It is a hoot.
 
2014-01-04 09:58:49 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Spurs against Arsenal?

Do yourself a favor and pick up Marina Sirtis tweeting during the match. It is a hoot.


Oh, I'd love to see Marina Sirtis' tweets.
 
2014-01-04 09:59:24 AM  

gordoLDN: Well, we don't show the game and we allow both home and away fans in - so basically we get slammed for a few hours before and after the game whilst every douche bag from Tottenham and West London and the home counties (Arsenal fans don't actually live in north london) screams for '6 pints 'a lager!'. That and there's the potential for violence... but we've managed to avoid that thus far.


That blows. Here's to a profitable day for you with a minimum of douchebags and no fights inside the pub.
 
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