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(Des Moines Register)   One of Iowa's "People to Watch" is a 40 year old housewife who writes homosexual romance novels. No, really   (desmoinesregister.com) divider line 49
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2014-01-03 08:10:27 PM
Well they have 50 shades of grey for lonely housewives, why not 50 shades of brokeback mountain for "bill"?
 
2014-01-03 08:11:56 PM
www.solarnavigator.net
 
2014-01-03 08:12:01 PM

Misconduc: Well they have 50 shades of grey for lonely housewives, why not 50 shades of brokeback mountain for "bill"?


It's just Yaoi for people who think picture-books are for kids.
 
2014-01-03 08:12:01 PM
Cue the Flintstone's dinosaur saying, "Eh, it's a living."
 
2014-01-03 08:13:13 PM
*insert cornhole joke here*
 
2014-01-03 08:17:09 PM

ronaprhys: Cue the Flintstone's dinosaur saying, "Eh, it's a living."


This comment is brought to you by 100% Win
 
2014-01-03 08:18:53 PM
Somebodies got to do it - those things don't just write themselves.

And when I say "things" I mean the books.
 
2014-01-03 08:19:48 PM
Well duh there is a market for gay fiction like never before.
 
2014-01-03 08:20:01 PM

Agent Nick Fury: Somebodies got to do it - those things don't just write themselves.

And when I say "things" I mean the books.


I meant "Somebody's"

There's a reason I don't write homosexual romance novels.
 
2014-01-03 08:23:09 PM

dv-ous: Yaoi


This.
 
2014-01-03 08:25:49 PM
I, uh, I wrote a furry gay romance novel.

/30 years old
//not housewife
 
2014-01-03 08:29:55 PM
There was a thirst for something in the market, and she's got a waterbottle to give.  I'm not sure where the 'no, really' part comes in.
 
2014-01-03 08:30:39 PM
counciltucky, iowa city, ames....Iowa trifecta complete for the day
 
2014-01-03 08:32:09 PM
Good for her. I'd love to be able to make a living writing porn. Unfortunately I'm a terrible writer.

/but a good reader
 
2014-01-03 08:35:03 PM

Ringshadow: I, uh, I wrote a furry gay romance novel.

/30 years old
//not housewife


Congratulations on the gay furry romance novel?

/ I prefer 20 something fake lesbians
 
2014-01-03 08:36:16 PM

Misconduc: Well they have 50 shades of grey for lonely housewives, why not 50 shades of brokeback mountain for "bill"?


So Fifty Shades of Gay.

NTTAWWT
 
2014-01-03 08:37:46 PM

KhamanV: There was a thirst for something in the market, and she's got a waterbottle to give.  I'm not sure where the 'no, really' part comes in.


Maybe it has more to do with where she's from rather than what she wrote. In truth us pervs are all around and live everywhere; perhaps it's unexpected in the Midwest.

Maybe some people expect us to congregate in certain areas like some big perv con. Las Vegas? Sure. New York? LA? No prob.

Iowa? WTF?
 
2014-01-03 08:44:12 PM
This seems correct to me considering that most heterosexual romance novels are written by men with female pen names.
 
2014-01-03 08:46:48 PM

iheartscotch: Congratulations on the gay furry romance novel?

/ I prefer 20 something fake lesbians


I actually have an open challenge from another writer to do a story about lesbian dragon shapeshifters. This came out of a conversation about Twilight, naturally.

/and thank you, published is published I suppose
 
2014-01-03 08:52:39 PM
Mr. Garrison nods in approval.

/Penis
 
2014-01-03 09:01:04 PM

Random Internet Persona: KhamanV: There was a thirst for something in the market, and she's got a waterbottle to give.  I'm not sure where the 'no, really' part comes in.

Maybe it has more to do with where she's from rather than what she wrote. In truth us pervs are all around and live everywhere; perhaps it's unexpected in the Midwest.

Maybe some people expect us to congregate in certain areas like some big perv con. Las Vegas? Sure. New York? LA? No prob.

Iowa? WTF?


Eastern-central IA is pretty gay-friendly, actually.  Iowa has a huge drag queen circuit, Des Moines has a gay neighborhood, ditto Iowa City, and Ames (well, mostly ISU) has a lot of gay people.  My girlfriend's friend just moved back to IA from San Francisco because Des Moines is really gay-friendly and the CoL is lower, and Des Moines has really good schools, so she and her wife decided to settle down there.  Just stay clear of western IA (meth central) and you'll be fine.

\Former cabinet member of the ISU LGBTAA
\\ Writer of (unpublished for now) lesbian superhero fiction
\\\ Iowa has an awesome drag circuit - weekends at the Garden in Des Moines = AWESOME
 
2014-01-03 09:03:39 PM

madanimalscientist: Random Internet Persona: KhamanV: There was a thirst for something in the market, and she's got a waterbottle to give.  I'm not sure where the 'no, really' part comes in.

Maybe it has more to do with where she's from rather than what she wrote. In truth us pervs are all around and live everywhere; perhaps it's unexpected in the Midwest.

Maybe some people expect us to congregate in certain areas like some big perv con. Las Vegas? Sure. New York? LA? No prob.

Iowa? WTF?

Eastern-central IA is pretty gay-friendly, actually.  Iowa has a huge drag queen circuit, Des Moines has a gay neighborhood, ditto Iowa City, and Ames (well, mostly ISU) has a lot of gay people.  My girlfriend's friend just moved back to IA from San Francisco because Des Moines is really gay-friendly and the CoL is lower, and Des Moines has really good schools, so she and her wife decided to settle down there.  Just stay clear of western IA (meth central) and you'll be fine.

\Former cabinet member of the ISU LGBTAA
\\ Writer of (unpublished for now) lesbian superhero fiction
\\\ Iowa has an awesome drag circuit - weekends at the Garden in Des Moines = AWESOME


And so I'm corrected. Sorry, I've only been in the US the last few years, and I know nothing about Iowa. That'll teach me to take a guess :)
 
2014-01-03 09:04:37 PM

Ringshadow: iheartscotch: Congratulations on the gay furry romance novel?

/ I prefer 20 something fake lesbians

I actually have an open challenge from another writer to do a story about lesbian dragon shapeshifters. This came out of a conversation about Twilight, naturally.

/and thank you, published is published I suppose


Lesbian Dragon Shapeshifters, huh?

I've got a suggestion:

You could always go the whole hero's path route; like two best friend cheerleaders were wondering in the woods (queue the cheesy 80's pron music) and find a pair of magic swords that turn them into dragons (doesn't have to be swords; could be magic bows or something) and they have to save the world/whatever from the evil queen of mars (or whatever). That's not even THAT convoluted for a romance novel.
 
2014-01-03 09:11:31 PM
Cullinan's husband, Dan, reads each of his wife's novels.

"I wouldn't say I'm a connoisseur" of gay romance, he clarified. But he's a supportive husband who provides a first, light edit.



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2014-01-03 09:12:41 PM
I'm a bisexual punk rocker who enjoys writing love stories about two straight Mormon people who get married, have 7 children, and live together forever and never commit adultery.

I've never sold a single story.
 
2014-01-03 09:20:35 PM
Fujos gonna fujo. I can't knock it, I was watching YuruYuri earlier today and one of my favorite series is Marimite.

The market for this stuff is huge, if the anime/manga fandom is anything to go by. Or Star Trek fandom (Kirk/Spock has been a thing forever). Or pretty much anything... Yaoi goggles aren't something imported from Japan, despite the common name.
 
2014-01-03 09:26:24 PM
madanimalscientist:[...]
Eastern-central IA is pretty gay-friendly, actually.  Iowa has a huge drag queen circuit, Des Moines has a gay neighborhood, ditto Iowa City, and Ames (well, mostly ISU) has a lot of gay people.  My girlfriend's friend just moved back to IA from San Francisco because Des Moines is really gay-friendly and the CoL is lower, and Des Moines has really good schools, so she and her wife decided to settle down there.  Just stay clear of western IA (meth central) and you'll be fine.

\Former cabinet member of the ISU LGBTAA
\\ Writer of (unpublished for now) lesbian superhero fiction
\\\ Iowa has an awesome drag circuit - weekends at the Garden in Des Moines = AWESOME


But what are they doing to the soil?
 
2014-01-03 09:28:55 PM

alice_600: Well duh there is a market for gay fiction like never before.


No kidding. I write it, too, I just don't make any money because I don't want to be sued since mine is fan fic. I'd have to rework my two novels with made-up characters (like the woman who wrote 50 shades did with her Twilight fan fic) in order to be able to publish it.
 
2014-01-03 09:29:00 PM
On a semi-related note, there is a surprising amount of Criminal Minds fan fiction out there - most of it involving
Reid and Morgan or Reid and Hotch hooking up.

Who knew?
 
2014-01-03 09:32:01 PM

adamatari: Fujos gonna fujo. I can't knock it, I was watching YuruYuri earlier today and one of my favorite series is Marimite.

The market for this stuff is huge, if the anime/manga fandom is anything to go by. Or Star Trek fandom (Kirk/Spock has been a thing forever). Or pretty much anything... Yaoi goggles aren't something imported from Japan, despite the common name.


I used to churn out some really popular f/f fanfic back in the day.  Of course, I wasn't exactly "raunchy" as Ms. Clannahan's colleague describes their work.  But I suppose I could be, if it means another 50 large per year...

I wonder how similar the styles would be, f/f and m/m...
 
2014-01-03 09:32:39 PM
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2014-01-03 09:34:06 PM

adamatari: Fujos gonna fujo. I can't knock it, I was watching YuruYuri earlier today and one of my favorite series is Marimite.

The market for this stuff is huge, if the anime/manga fandom is anything to go by. Or Star Trek fandom (Kirk/Spock has been a thing forever). Or pretty much anything... Yaoi goggles aren't something imported from Japan, despite the common name.


Actually, the term "Slash" is far more common than "Yaoi" which usually refers only to m/m manga and anime. Slash refers to Kirk/Spock and any other m/m fan fic. I used to read and write X-Files slash, mainly Mulder/Krycek but also Mulder/Skinner on occasion back in the mid-90's, and besides TV and movie slash, there's a ton of Band slash fic if you aren't squicked by Real Person Slash (RPS).
 
2014-01-03 09:48:35 PM
SABLSTT
 
2014-01-03 10:25:11 PM
If you are posting on Fark at 22:24 on a Friday night, you are not a writer, despite how proud your mother is of you.
 
2014-01-03 10:37:35 PM

MemeSlave: If you are posting on Fark at 22:24 on a Friday night, you are not a writer, despite how proud your mother is of you.


How about at 20:24?  Or 19:24 - is that OK with you?  Or are all writers required to be partying, f*cking, drinking, or writing on certain days?

Just asking, here - didn't know there were rules.
 
2014-01-03 10:50:34 PM

MemeSlave: If you are posting on Fark at 22:24 on a Friday night, you are not a writer, despite how proud your mother is of you.


F*ck you I have bronchitis. What the hell else am I supposed to do besides take medicine and feel sorry for myself.

/also it's negative degrees outside
 
2014-01-03 10:52:48 PM
There was a time when publishers would send promotional copies of man on man erotic love stores about twice a month to my spouse.

The market really exploded around six years ago.
 
2014-01-03 11:26:39 PM
I know a 30something housewife who runs a site reviewing male-on-male romance books.  Was surprising, but she enjoys it and is getting a following, so why not.
 
2014-01-04 12:14:18 AM
... many of them involving Captain James Tiberius Kirk and Science Officer Mr. Spock getting it on up there in space.

Yes, Subby, sadly I knew about this curiosity of literature without having to consult the novelist and part-time PM Benjamin Disraeli's learned father, Isaac Disraeli.

Fan fic now does as well in print and electronic media as pulp crap used to do. There's a whole new sub-basement to literature which like the Bargain Basements of yesteryear, is far more profitable than High Literature and poetry.

In fact, in my native Canada, roughly five writers* of note can make a full living writing "good books" or "serious literature", while the average author earns less than $500 a year and stupid crap mongers make a tidy income writing Harlequin Romances, or millions writing this kind of web crap.

One of the professors at my first alma mater wrote Harlequins for almost as much or more than she earned teaching and publishing university-level crap.

There's an old saying:

Feed the masses, dine with the classes.

Which explains why a McDo franchise may make far more money than a clever little restaurant created by the wife of the Dean of Modern Literature.

If I thought I could write that badly I would be rich by now, rather than expending my bon mots and wisdom on Farkers for $5 a month.

The thing is, that for an intelligent person, it is as painful to be intentionally stupid as it is to be a genius in the world of Harry Bergeron. Being me (Brantgoose), is like living with a troop of coprophagous baboons (you). It's sort of fun in a Ladies of Primatology sort of way, but largely unprofitable in a scientific sort of way.

*Margaret Atwood, Farley Mowat, Michel Tremblay, Alice Munro,  and one or two others (formerly Pierre Berton and possibly somebody like Antonette Maillet or Margaret Lawrence.) I can name most of them, let alone count them on one hand.
 
2014-01-04 12:15:40 AM

SpdrJay: I'm a bisexual punk rocker who enjoys writing love stories about two straight Mormon people who get married, have 7 children, and live together forever and never commit adultery.

I've never sold a single story.


I came.
 
2014-01-04 02:03:31 AM
OMG, I could TOTALLY do this.  I could be the person to watch in Missouri!
 
2014-01-04 04:29:15 AM
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2014-01-04 04:34:58 AM
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2014-01-04 04:38:15 AM
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2014-01-04 09:01:28 AM
Let me guess... Much like Shades of Grey, it's about the same as a million poorly written 'erotic fiction' stories you can find on the internet?

And much like porn... Why do people pay for this? There's a ton of it floating around out there for free. An inexhaustible source.
 
2014-01-04 09:17:09 AM
Great... now the Fangirls are going to think they can make a living with their fan fics.
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"Wha-... it's a totally legitimate form of story"
 
2014-01-04 12:33:51 PM

Misconduc: Well they have 50 shades of grey for lonely housewives, why not 50 shades of brokeback mountain for "bill"?


An allegedly sexy book written by someone with no idea how the real deal actually works? Your metaphor works on many levels.
 
2014-01-04 01:57:29 PM

randomjsa: Let me guess... Much like Shades of Grey, it's about the same as a million poorly written 'erotic fiction' stories you can find on the internet?

And much like porn... Why do people pay for this? There's a ton of it floating around out there for free. An inexhaustible source.


I mentioned something in a previous thread about knowing someone who made over three million dollars in a couple of years, and I know others that have made nearly that much as well.  However, many more are those I know (yes, I know a lot of erotic romance writers) are barely scraping by.

If you don't like the material, it's hard to judge crap from decent.  Any niche entertainment product is going to seem indiscernible to someone that doesn't know the market.  If it's a big market, you can assume there's crap and there's decent.  Erotic romance is very big.  Describing the various sub-genres that I know people have made money in include werewolf raping women (while changing from man to werewolf).  There are others.  These aren't internet free stories, but yeah, some are really poorly written.  Just don't assume all of them are.

yes, people buy crap and make the crap makers a lot of money.  Just look at the line for any Transformer's movie.
 
2014-01-04 06:38:17 PM

Ringshadow: I, uh, I wrote a furry gay romance novel.

/30 years old
//not housewife


This does not surprise anyone here in the slightest.
 
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