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(Metro)   Breaking Bad creator casts doubt on 'Better Call Saul' spinoff   (metro.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-01-03 08:19:21 PM  
Ok, since you asked, first of all, no prequels. Second, Saul is not a main character. That would get old really fast. You have to create an entirely new drama series with Saul as a supporting character. Maybe get away from drugs because it's been done. But the focus should be a new story with all new characters with Saul as the only common element. You're welcome.
 
2014-01-03 09:47:28 PM  
The character that springs to mind [to bring back] would be Mike (Jonathan Banks).

Hope he can get a break from his teaching gig.
 
2014-01-03 10:08:20 PM  
They could just do it Perry Mason style where it's not really about HIS personal life and the episodes are just about the problems the clients are having.
 
2014-01-03 10:12:27 PM  
I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices
 
2014-01-03 10:18:23 PM  

Sobekneferu: They could just do it Perry Mason style where it's not really about HIS personal life and the episodes are just about the problems the clients are having.


Doesn't seem like his clients had any problems. The D.A. hardly, if ever, won a case. He was the Washington Generals of the legal profession.
 
2014-01-03 10:26:14 PM  
After Breaking Bad.
 
2014-01-03 10:32:55 PM  

Mugato: Ok, since you asked, first of all, no prequels. Second, Saul is not a main character. That would get old really fast. You have to create an entirely new drama series with Saul as a supporting character. Maybe get away from drugs because it's been done. But the focus should be a new story with all new characters with Saul as the only common element. You're welcome.


Pretty much this.
 
2014-01-03 10:37:48 PM  
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2014-01-03 10:46:18 PM  
Forget about this Saul character.

Just reboot X-Files already, Vince. You know you want to.
 
2014-01-03 11:01:16 PM  

you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices


Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.
 
2014-01-03 11:01:46 PM  
A side plot of how Mike became such a bad azz would be stellar.
 
2014-01-03 11:06:58 PM  

Karma Chameleon: you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices

Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.


Uh, speaking of things that never happened.....did you even watch the show?
 
2014-01-03 11:09:15 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: A side plot of how Mike became such a bad azz would be stellar.


We know the answer to that: it was the thing back in Philadelphia.
 
2014-01-03 11:16:58 PM  

Mugato: no prequels


www.fromscreentotheme.com

No George. Not Even more Dunk and Egg. NO ONE CARES. We Winter to come finally.
 
2014-01-03 11:23:23 PM  
Read the original article on EW.com. Vince is not casting doubt. Metro took things out of context.
 
2014-01-03 11:31:07 PM  

Sobekneferu: They could just do it Perry Mason style where it's not really about HIS personal life and the episodes are just about the problems the clients are having.


That's what I figured the show would be since first hearing about it. This week a thief, next week an indecent exposure, etc etc etc
 
2014-01-03 11:33:00 PM  
"Better get Sal!"
 
2014-01-03 11:34:41 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: A side plot of how Mike became such a bad azz would be stellar.

We know the answer to that: it was the thing back in Philadelphia.


Mike got in one little thing and his mom got scared and said youre moving in with Jesse and Walt in Albuquerque. He whistled for a van and when it came near Robert Forster was driving and there were two copies of Mr Magoriums Emporium in the mirror. If anything Mike could say that this van was rare but he thought nah forget it yo HOLMES(sp) to Albuquerque.
 
2014-01-03 11:34:45 PM  

Cymbal: Forget about this Saul character.

Just reboot X-Files already, Vince. You know you want to.


I'm still holding out for one more  X-Files movie that wraps up the alien story with the original cast. Come on, there are like 10 movie sequels in development that should have been made 15 years ago, what's one more?
 
2014-01-03 11:54:11 PM  

dark brew: Karma Chameleon: you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices

Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.

Uh, speaking of things that never happened.....did you even watch the show?


yep. they were definitely at Walt's house.
 
2014-01-03 11:57:47 PM  

Karma Chameleon: you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices

Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.


Man I miss those Breaking Bad threads.

I'm so sad, I might go smoke a ricin cigarette.
 
2014-01-04 12:27:32 AM  
I'm okay with this. I'd rather have nothing than something half-assed.
 
2014-01-04 12:31:18 AM  
cultspark.com

I'd rather see an "America's got Talent" style show, and if the auditioners can make Tyrus change his facial expression, they move on to the next round
 
2014-01-04 12:34:26 AM  

Sonnuvah: I'm okay with this. I'd rather have nothing than something half-assed.


e.g.
MASH and After MASH.
 
2014-01-04 12:35:49 AM  
Beginning and ending credits are just Huell still sitting in that room.
 
2014-01-04 12:48:06 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Beginning and ending credits are just Huell still sitting in that room.




"Really?"

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2014-01-04 12:58:01 AM  
http://youtu.be/D5v5_tUDxh8    This is the only Breaking Bad spin off needed. Your welcome.
 
2014-01-04 01:39:41 AM  

Epicfarker: http://youtu.be/D5v5_tUDxh8    This is the only Breaking Bad spin off needed. Your welcome.


My welcome what?
 
2014-01-04 04:07:50 AM  
Add David Cross.
 
2014-01-04 04:11:19 AM  

Karma Chameleon: you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices

Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.


I think you meant 'Hank's bathroom.'
 
2014-01-04 04:46:11 AM  
Am I the only one who thought Bob Odenkirk was the best thing about the show?  Saul was the only character whose actions were consistent and made sense.

It might be because I didn't watch as it ran, but binge watched on Netflix, but I got whiplash watching Walt's motivations go back and forth.  Saul always made sense to me.  Walt and Jesse not so much.
 
2014-01-04 07:33:21 AM  

Lenny and Carl: Am I the only one who thought Bob Odenkirk was the best thing about the show?  Saul was the only character whose actions were consistent and made sense.

It might be because I didn't watch as it ran, but binge watched on Netflix, but I got whiplash watching Walt's motivations go back and forth.  Saul always made sense to me.  Walt and Jesse not so much.


I did the same (binge watched) and had pretty much the same experience you did. There was a great deal more character consistency within episodes than there was between them. Saul excepted.

Really, instead of this show, I'm with those who would have preferred Cinnabon Saul. I'd look forward to that much more than this.
 
2014-01-04 08:09:10 AM  

dark brew: Karma Chameleon: you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices

Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.

Uh, speaking of things that never happened.....did you even watch the show?


Ummm...yes it did. Did you even watch the show?

I would like to see them go into Todd's FBI career and how he went undercover to bust Walt.
 
2014-01-04 08:16:48 AM  

Mugato: Ok, since you asked, first of all, no prequels. Second, Saul is not a main character. That would get old really fast. You have to create an entirely new drama series with Saul as a supporting character. Maybe get away from drugs because it's been done. But the focus should be a new story with all new characters with Saul as the only common element. You're welcome.


www-deadline-com.vimg.net

^ A 'dramedy' with jovial main character. It can be done.
 
2014-01-04 09:11:24 AM  

Lenny and Carl: Am I the only one who thought Bob Odenkirk was the best thing about the show?  Saul was the only character whose actions were consistent and made sense.

It might be because I didn't watch as it ran, but binge watched on Netflix, but I got whiplash watching Walt's motivations go back and forth.  Saul always made sense to me.  Walt and Jesse not so much.


That's why "binge watching" is bad.

Also, using the term "binge watching" in a non-ironic manner, should be punished with lashes.
 
2014-01-04 10:02:13 AM  
Duh,
Marie stole it because the book had a purple cover.

Karma Chameleon: you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices

Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.

 
2014-01-04 10:13:05 AM  

Cymbal: Forget about this Saul character.

Just reboot X-Files already, Vince. You know you want to.


And do it on Fx or Fxx.
 
2014-01-04 11:35:02 AM  

Jakesta: dark brew: Karma Chameleon: you are a puppet: I hope they finally explain how Walt slipped that ricin into Gus Fring's 11 herbs and spices

Um, did you even watch the show? That never happened. What I'd really like to see explained is why Walt took Gale's copy of Leaves of Grass to Hank's bathroom.

Uh, speaking of things that never happened.....did you even watch the show?

Ummm...yes it did. Did you even watch the show?

I would like to see them go into Todd's FBI career and how he went undercover to bust Walt.


He wasn't an FBI agent, you dolt!

He was undercover DEA.. That's why when Jesse shot Gale he moved his arm to the left and missed on purpose.
 
2014-01-04 12:11:20 PM  

jbrady3324: Read the original article on EW.com. Vince is not casting doubt. Metro took things out of context.


A media outlet taking something out of context to boost revenues? [casablanca-renault-shocked.jpg]
 
2014-01-04 12:20:54 PM  

rocky_howard: Lenny and Carl: Am I the only one who thought Bob Odenkirk was the best thing about the show?  Saul was the only character whose actions were consistent and made sense.

It might be because I didn't watch as it ran, but binge watched on Netflix, but I got whiplash watching Walt's motivations go back and forth.  Saul always made sense to me.  Walt and Jesse not so much.

That's why "binge watching" is bad.

Also, using the term "binge watching" in a non-ironic manner, should be punished with lashes.


I binge watched (oh shush) until the last season and did not have the same reaction whatsoever. It's a frame of reference thing + people do, you know, change. But as far as underlying traits go I think Walt and Jesse made perfect sense.

Hell, I really don't get Jesse criticism. I worked at a non profit with a 20 something who two years prior had been selling coke (amongst other things) for a living and making good money too. Punk ass kid, iirc got a GED. Somehow turned into a damn good person naturally and that was without dealing with the sh-t Jesse had to face. And even moving an hour away it was hard to make a clean break.

/shrug
 
2014-01-04 12:23:12 PM  

jbrady3324: Read the original article on EW.com. Vince is not casting doubt. Metro took things out of context.


http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/12/31/breaking-bad-vince-gilligan-better-c all-saul-community/
 
2014-01-04 01:00:33 PM  

Fista-Phobia: Add David Cross.


At LEAST as a deleted scene in character as Ronnie Dobbs. I'd watch it.
 
2014-01-04 04:15:52 PM  

rocinante721: Mugato: Ok, since you asked, first of all, no prequels. Second, Saul is not a main character. That would get old really fast. You have to create an entirely new drama series with Saul as a supporting character. Maybe get away from drugs because it's been done. But the focus should be a new story with all new characters with Saul as the only common element. You're welcome.

[www-deadline-com.vimg.net image 250x196]

^ A 'dramedy' with jovial main character. It can be done.


If the Better Call Saul folk really wanted to get creative they could make the new show Rosencrantz and Guildenstern style.  Fill a season or two, easily, showing all the background things Saul did during Breaking Bad.  Keep old BB viewers by keeping the traditional characters, use just enough of the old material to get viewers acclimated to the new show, and further add to the mythos.
 
2014-01-04 05:12:42 PM  
That's why "binge watching" is bad.

Not much of an argument there.  Your complaint is that I was too easily able to notice inconsistencies in the character development?

Also, using the term "binge watching" in a non-ironic manner, should be punished with lashes.

 Ok, I'll bite.  What term, two words or fewer, would you prefer to accurately and concisely describe that practice of consuming entertainment?

I binge watched (oh shush) until the last season and did not have the same reaction whatsoever. It's a frame of reference thing + people do, you know, change. But as far as underlying traits go I think Walt and Jesse made perfect sense.

Hell, I really don't get Jesse criticism. I worked at a non profit with a 20 something who two years prior had been selling coke (amongst other things) for a living and making good money too. Punk ass kid, iirc got a GED. Somehow turned into a damn good person naturally and that was without dealing with the sh-t Jesse had to face. And even moving an hour away it was hard to make a clean break.


My problem was that they went back and forth.  Walt sent Jesse to kill Spooge for stealing from them because they couldn't stand that kind of hit to their street cred, then later he's against Jesse killing the dealers who killed Combo because "that's not who we are."  There's no sense to character arc.

It's not that I dislike Walt or Jesse, but Saul always made sense in a way Walt and Jesse never did because their behavior was inconsistent from episode to episode.  If they followed a particular arc which demonstrated a particular change I'd be with you.  But they vacillated constantly.
 
2014-01-04 08:24:08 PM  
A prequel about Leonel & Marco Salamanca  would be good. I would like to write the dialogue.

Here's a sample:
 
2014-01-05 02:54:17 AM  
Lenny and Carl:
Also, using the term "binge watching" in a non-ironic manner, should be punished with lashes.

 Ok, I'll bite.  What term, two words or fewer, would you prefer to accurately and concisely describe that practice of consuming entertainment?


Marathon?

My problem was that they went back and forth.  Walt sent Jesse to kill Spooge for stealing from them because they couldn't stand that kind of hit to their street cred, then later he's against Jesse killing the dealers who killed Combo because "that's not who we are."  There's no sense to character arc.

It's not that I dislike Walt or Jesse, but Saul always made sense in a way Walt and Jesse never did because their behavior was inconsistent from episode to episode.  If they followed a particular arc which demonstrated a particular change I'd be with you.  But they vacillated constantly.


Jesse was erratic because of the meth/his conscience.  Walt was simply acting so as to manipulate Jesse into doing what he wanted (Spooge was bad for business; The guys who killed Combo were allied with the chicken dude (forget his name)).  That behavior of Walt's is why at the end of the series (Spoilers) Jesse was all like "Say this is what you want." and "Do it yourself."
 
2014-01-05 10:17:09 AM  
Marathon isn't a verb, so it doesn't describe the activity.  I can't see any reason why marathon watching would be less offensive than binge watching, but whatever.

Walt also wanted in and out of the business erratically for reasons that shifted without rational purpose.  Every time Saul did something you could say to yourself, "that makes sense based on his previous actions."  That was never the case with Walt.  I'll give you Jesse's addiction as a root cause of unpredictability.
 
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