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2014-01-03 07:05:16 PM
4 votes:

New Age Redneck: As someone who grew up in Saskatchewan


Regardless of what your flawed memory tells you, you didn't sit stationary for 4-5 hours in -40 even with your heavy gear on.
2014-01-03 08:19:44 PM
2 votes:
I am unfortunately considered an essential employee at a refinery on the southern tip of Lake Michigan. Worked outside 5 hrs. this morning and it was cold, but managable. -10 wind chill but went up as the day went on. If anybody cares I had to repair a large bucket crane used to scoop up coke.
2014-01-03 07:18:48 PM
2 votes:

Shame Us: iron_city_ap: This could be the quietest NFL game ever. Between all the layered clothing and face protection, they'll barely make a sound.

You'll be a ble to hear the kicker scream in agony when bones in his foot shatter as he attempts the game-winning FG.


Bones, nothing. The blood, ligaments, tendons, and muscles will also be frozen solid. I fully expect lower extremities to explode into shards, like a frozen steak dropped onto concrete from 20 meters high.
2014-01-03 07:16:29 PM
2 votes:
The game did sell out.
Not surprisingly my kid's high school announced it would not be open on Monday due to the cold.
2014-01-03 07:16:23 PM
2 votes:

grimlock1972: I have a feeling the NFL is going to have to waive the blackout rule as someof the games arenot going to dell out unless someone steps up and buys the unsold tickets.


Already happened.  Mainly corporations.  I know Kroger bought a big chunk for its hometown of Cincy.
2014-01-03 07:13:58 PM
2 votes:
I have a feeling the NFL is going to have to waive the blackout rule as someof the games arenot going to dell out unless someone steps up and buys the unsold tickets.
2014-01-03 07:11:02 PM
2 votes:

iron_city_ap: This could be the quietest NFL game ever. Between all the layered clothing and face protection, they'll barely make a sound.


You'll be a ble to hear the kicker scream in agony when bones in his foot shatter as he attempts the game-winning FG.
2014-01-03 07:10:01 PM
2 votes:

Lost Thought 00: netweavr: WILL CREATE DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILL VALUES IN THE 35 BELOW TO 55 BELOW ZERO RANGE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. FROSTBITE COULD OCCUR IN 10 MINUTES.

This feels like people at the game are approaching Darwin Award levels or stupidity

The only saving grace with that is that the advisory doesn't kick in until late sunday night. Though it's not like forcasts are always accurate down to the hour


The advisory starts Sat night and becomes a warning Sun night. The game should last until ~8pm Sunday night.

Honestly the NFL should move this to Saturday or they're risking a lot of lawsuits from fans/employees/NFLPA. They cannot claim ignorance here.
2014-01-03 07:07:43 PM
2 votes:
This could be the quietest NFL game ever. Between all the layered clothing and face protection, they'll barely make a sound.
2014-01-03 07:01:43 PM
2 votes:

netweavr: WILL CREATE DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILL VALUES IN THE 35 BELOW TO 55 BELOW ZERO RANGE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. FROSTBITE COULD OCCUR IN 10 MINUTES.

This feels like people at the game are approaching Darwin Award levels or stupidity


The only saving grace with that is that the advisory doesn't kick in until late sunday night. Though it's not like forcasts are always accurate down to the hour
2014-01-03 07:00:50 PM
2 votes:
As someone who grew up in Saskatchewan I am getting a kick out of the "life threatening weather".....nobody ever used to say a word about - 40C, they just dealt with it.....when did everyone become whiny little pussies about the f*cking weather?

/dry cold that -40   :D
//Mt. Rhuapehu New Zealand, minus 1 C, 100% humidity, 60 knot wind, that is life threatening....
2014-01-03 06:55:56 PM
2 votes:
2014-01-03 06:51:57 PM
2 votes:

Triumph: I remember hearing someone describe the Ice bowl. Many people were wearing sleeping bags and kept their beer bottles inside the bag so it didn't freeze. People were holding it so long that you could hear screams coming from the Men's room.


The ice bowl was so cold, the first referee's whistle froze to his lips (they used metal whistles back then). From then on, no whistles were blown and all plays were stopped with hand signals and shouting.

/they use plastic fox40 whistles now
2014-01-03 06:45:33 PM
2 votes:
The NFL is a cartel and demands constant payment. Your lives are not of their concern.
2014-01-03 06:30:09 PM
2 votes:

crotchgrabber: I remember a Raiders game that Microsoft bought a bunch of tickets for just to make sure it wasn't blacked out. They had some commercial time for something they were releasing and wanted to make sure it got aired. I foresee something like that happening. And I thought black-out rules were different for play off games.


Not sure on the playoff blackout rules. I live in Louisville and I'm a Bengals fan. I was thinking about driving up for the game but we're supposed to get -20F on Sunday with the wind chill. F*ck that. And I saw the NFL was threatening to blackout Cincy because - shocker here - it's hard to get 70,000 people to want to sit in that weather. Kroger swooped in and bought up all the remaining seats so I guess problem solved, but the NFL are still megadickwads.

I'm a Louisville football season ticket holder, and I'm usually the guy yelling at people to not leave before the game's over, brave the weather, etc. But -30F is just farking dangerous, man. Forget that, even for Green Bay.
2014-01-03 06:04:42 PM
2 votes:

imapirate: I think what a lot of people are missing out on here is that if that game doesn't sell out, the NFL (see: same assholes who sue churches for throwing Super Bowl watch parties as fund raisers to feed the poor) will black out the game locally. That means kids who idolize these athletes, seniors who can't brave the cold, etc., won't be able to see the game. Is it just a game? Of course, but football in Green Bay is religion. There's no chance in hell I'd take my kids to a game in that weather.


I remember a Raiders game that Microsoft bought a bunch of tickets for just to make sure it wasn't blacked out. They had some commercial time for something they were releasing and wanted to make sure it got aired. I foresee something like that happening. And I thought black-out rules were different for play off games.
2014-01-03 05:57:07 PM
2 votes:
I think what a lot of people are missing out on here is that if that game doesn't sell out, the NFL (see: same assholes who sue churches for throwing Super Bowl watch parties as fund raisers to feed the poor) will black out the game locally. That means kids who idolize these athletes, seniors who can't brave the cold, etc., won't be able to see the game. Is it just a game? Of course, but football in Green Bay is religion. There's no chance in hell I'd take my kids to a game in that weather.
2014-01-03 05:04:41 PM
2 votes:

simplicimus: Am I supposed to recognize the woman in the photo? Or the backdrop?


What someone who is cold may look like.
2014-01-03 04:59:14 PM
2 votes:
The NFL has ignored studies which link sitting outside in extremely cold temperatures to numbness, frostbite, and death.

The NFL has done its own studies which find NO link at all between drinking beer in a parking lot for 3 hours and dehydration or drunkenness.
2014-01-04 03:25:32 PM
1 votes:

Encodede: Mike3k22: We will be in section 348. This will be my first Packer playoff game. I couldn't pass up an opportunity like this one. It's not every day in Wisconsin that you can just order Packer tickets. fark the cold, that's why I bought some heavy duty insulated bibs today and will be layering like a madman. It will be difficult but it will also be a great time. I couldn't be more excited for Sunday.

Amen.  I grabbed some huge work boots and a Neoprene face mask and layers will be key.  My wife wants me to get ski google style eye protection but I think thats taking things to far.  My current plan for gear is:

Feet: 3 pairs of socks, Large work boots.
Legs: Normal boxer-briefs, long underwear, jeans + sweat pants on top.
Torso:Tee shirt, long underwear, possibly another long sleave shirt, hoodie, winter coat.
Head: Face mask, scarf + Hat
Hands: Fingerless Gloves + thick winter gloves.
For the cherry on top I'll be rocking a Mexican style Packers Poncho.  25 articles of clothing combined with booze and hand warmers should be sufficient.


If I may offer a suggestion (as someone who spent many years doing ice rescue -- including 4 years in your neck of the woods): Keep any wool or cotton off the skin.  First layer needs to be a wicking layer.  We used polypropylene, but I think there are better fabrics available.  This is especially true of the socks and shirt.  After that, go nuts with wool or cotton.  But if you don't have something that wicks away perspiration, it could be uncomfortable in those temps.

At any rate - good luck!
2014-01-04 01:13:36 AM
1 votes:
We will be in section 348. This will be my first Packer playoff game. I couldn't pass up an opportunity like this one. It's not every day in Wisconsin that you can just order Packer tickets. fark the cold, that's why I bought some heavy duty insulated bibs today and will be layering like a madman. It will be difficult but it will also be a great time. I couldn't be more excited for Sunday.
2014-01-03 10:15:51 PM
1 votes:
The NFL is encouraging fans to sit outside in weather classified as life threatening this Sunday for the remainder of the playoffs.

Guess you forgot all about where they are playing the Super Bowl, not to mention each playoff game not being played in a dome or in a warm weather city.

I look at it this way.  I love me some football as well as the next guy.  But why would you willingly pay inflated ticket prices to:  a) have your view obstructed, b) be so far away from the action that a 350 pound offensive lineman looks like an ant with shoulder pads on, c) develop frostbite?  Me, even if I were given tickets to any such a game, I would be found holed up in my man cave watching the action on my 60" HD set.
2014-01-03 09:51:50 PM
1 votes:

FriarReb98: Meanwhile, it will be a nice cozy 25 or so at the Linc Saturday night, and a balmy 40 at Cincy on Sunday.  And Indy will be indoors and Jim Irsay's mocking all the cold weather shiat.


Naw. He'll be biatching at people on twitter. "Don't like the weather? Go buy a planet and run it how you like!"  Even though, of course, he inherited his, along with all his money.
2014-01-03 09:30:25 PM
1 votes:

12349876: Minnesota's governor already cancelled school Monday for every single school in the entire state.


Which is significant because Minnesota schools are actually constructed out of ice.  True story.
2014-01-03 09:21:30 PM
1 votes:

New Age Redneck: As someone who grew up in Saskatchewan I am getting a kick out of the "life threatening weather".....nobody ever used to say a word about - 40C, they just dealt with it.....when did everyone become whiny little pussies about the f*cking weather?

/dry cold that -40   :D
//Mt. Rhuapehu New Zealand, minus 1 C, 100% humidity, 60 knot wind, that is life threatening....


Congrats, you live in a shiatty place.
2014-01-03 09:17:15 PM
1 votes:

buckeyebrain: ClavellBCMI: The 1981 AFC title game, while the air temperature was warmer (-9 F, or -23 C), had an even colder wind chill (-37 F under current standards). And the playing field? Think a slab of concrete disguised as a football field.

Did they recently change the standards for wind chill?  I've always heard -59 F for the Bengals game.


Yes, they did, in 2001.
2014-01-03 09:05:40 PM
1 votes:

ClavellBCMI: ChrisDe: BKITU: ChrisDe: Too bad that article didn't tell me how cold the coldest game was.

1967 NFC Championship -- "The Ice Bowl"

Unsurprisingly, also held at Lambeau.

/1981 AFC Championship in Cincinnati -- "The Freezer Bowl" -- is a close second.

Yes, but how cold was it?

1967 NFC title game, the air temp at Lambeau was -15 F (-26 C), with a wind chill (under current National Weather Service standards) of -36 F (-38 C). And the under-field heating system malfunctioned, which resulted in the moisture that was trapped under the tarp flash-freezing once the tarp was removed, which left the field an ice-skating rink disguised as a football field.

The 1981 AFC title game, while the air temperature was warmer (-9 F, or -23 C), had an even colder wind chill (-37 F under current standards). And the playing field? Think a slab of concrete disguised as a football field.


Thanks. I wouldn't have thought they had in-ground heating in 1967.
2014-01-03 08:53:14 PM
1 votes:

ClavellBCMI: The 1981 AFC title game, while the air temperature was warmer (-9 F, or -23 C), had an even colder wind chill (-37 F under current standards). And the playing field? Think a slab of concrete disguised as a football field.


Did they recently change the standards for wind chill?  I've always heard -59 F for the Bengals game.
2014-01-03 08:49:59 PM
1 votes:
Well, it's 40 below and I don't give a fark, got a heater in my truck, and I'm off to the  rodeo NFC playoff game
2014-01-03 08:33:48 PM
1 votes:

fatalvenom: White people problems?


White skin is a major sign of frostbite.
2014-01-03 08:33:15 PM
1 votes:

ChrisDe: BKITU: ChrisDe: Too bad that article didn't tell me how cold the coldest game was.

1967 NFC Championship -- "The Ice Bowl"

Unsurprisingly, also held at Lambeau.

/1981 AFC Championship in Cincinnati -- "The Freezer Bowl" -- is a close second.

Yes, but how cold was it?


1967 NFC title game, the air temp at Lambeau was -15 F (-26 C), with a wind chill (under current National Weather Service standards) of -36 F (-38 C). And the under-field heating system malfunctioned, which resulted in the moisture that was trapped under the tarp flash-freezing once the tarp was removed, which left the field an ice-skating rink disguised as a football field.

The 1981 AFC title game, while the air temperature was warmer (-9 F, or -23 C), had an even colder wind chill (-37 F under current standards). And the playing field? Think a slab of concrete disguised as a football field.
2014-01-03 08:07:22 PM
1 votes:
I'm just curious if the bikini girls are going to make a showing.
2014-01-03 08:02:40 PM
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: ghostfacekillahrabbit: Take a valium and put down the pearls folks. We'll be fine. You think football players and fans are the only ones working and playing outside up here? Life doesn't stop because its cold out.

Actually, all but essential services are being shut down. Its historic cold, even for WI


A lot of stuff is shutdown, mostly on Monday when it'll be colder. I have to work tho, and I'm not remotely essential.
2014-01-03 07:56:15 PM
1 votes:

ghostfacekillahrabbit: Take a valium and put down the pearls folks. We'll be fine. You think football players and fans are the only ones working and playing outside up here? Life doesn't stop because its cold out.


Actually, all but essential services are being shut down. Its historic cold, even for WI
2014-01-03 07:52:28 PM
1 votes:

ghostfacekillahrabbit: Take a valium and put down the pearls folks. We'll be fine. You think football players and fans are the only ones working and playing outside up here? Life doesn't stop because its cold out.


Yeah, only one fan died during the ice bowl.
2014-01-03 07:38:39 PM
1 votes:

imapirate: I think what a lot of people are missing out on here is that if that game doesn't sell out, the NFL (see: same assholes who sue churches for throwing Super Bowl watch parties as fund raisers to feed the poor) will black out the game locally. That means kids who idolize these athletes, seniors who can't brave the cold, etc., won't be able to see the game. Is it just a game? Of course, but football in Green Bay is religion. There's no chance in hell I'd take my kids to a game in that weather.


Its just business. You see take cinci for example. They have 65k seats. As of this morning, they only had 62k sold. Its a 20 million total ticket revenue. Most of the ones left were 85 (almost twice the normal cost). So 250k was still dangling out there that someone owes the nfl NFL. It sounds silly when you are talking about 1% of the ticket revenue for one game, but they are owed it. Luckily corporations stepped in and saved the NFL from having to black it out, because they would hate to do that. Who would want to black out the local fans who have sold out Two years of consecutive games over 1% of the gate? All those fans also buy tons of mmerchandise and support the team all over the place. I am really glad the NFL wasn't forced to step in and punish those fans for not paying almost $100 a head to buy the last few tickets.
2014-01-03 07:34:12 PM
1 votes:
"When they came out without sleeves, I knew it was over and we were going to the Super Bowl."
-Packers DE Sean Jones

"I hit Favre and he fumbled, but when I went to try and recover it my arms wouldn't move."
-Panthers LB Kevin Greene

Reminiscing about the '97 NFC Championship game
2014-01-03 07:32:43 PM
1 votes:
Well, just read that Lambeau will have an open Hot Cocoa bar for all attendants. So that's good.
2014-01-03 07:21:41 PM
1 votes:
Back in the day when Jim Kelly led the Bills to 4 straight Super Bowls I was a a couple of real cold one, but never as cold as -5°. I went and looked up the numbers:

On 12/26/93 the Bills beat the Jets 16-14 in their final home game of the season. It was 9° at kickoff, the windchill was a comfy -12°.We were allowed to bring insulated plastic mugs into the stadium back then, my beer was freezing solid inside my mug.

Three weeks later the Bills beat the Raiders 29-23 to advance in the playoffs. In the time between the games I went out and bought a set of boots rated to -80°, as my old boots didn't do the trick when I was standing on concrete and snow and not moving much. It was 3° at kickoff that day, with a windchill of -14°. I thought it wasn't too bad while we were standing around the fire tailgating, then we headed into the stadium....


/4th Super Bowl loss that season.
//I still hate the farking Cowboys
2014-01-03 07:21:34 PM
1 votes:

ChrisDe: Too bad that article didn't tell me how cold the coldest game was.


1967 NFC Championship -- "The Ice Bowl"

Unsurprisingly, also held at Lambeau.

/1981 AFC Championship in Cincinnati -- "The Freezer Bowl" -- is a close second.
2014-01-03 07:21:02 PM
1 votes:

exvaxman: The game did sell out.
Not surprisingly my kid's high school announced it would not be open on Monday due to the cold.


Minnesota's governor already cancelled school Monday for every single school in the entire state.
2014-01-03 07:20:10 PM
1 votes:
Also, SF is built much better for the cold than Green Bay.

Just throwing that out there.
2014-01-03 07:19:55 PM
1 votes:
Too bad that article didn't tell me how cold the coldest game was.
2014-01-03 07:19:25 PM
1 votes:
I'm as big a fan of cold, snowy, windy, muddy games as anyone, but this does seem like a bad idea for oh so many reasons.
2014-01-03 07:16:15 PM
1 votes:

grimlock1972: I have a feeling the NFL is going to have to waive the blackout rule as someof the games arenot going to dell out unless someone steps up and buys the unsold tickets.


That's already happened for these games.
2014-01-03 07:15:27 PM
1 votes:

Shame Us: netweavr: Lost Thought 00: netweavr: WILL CREATE DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILL VALUES IN THE 35 BELOW TO 55 BELOW ZERO RANGE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. FROSTBITE COULD OCCUR IN 10 MINUTES.

This feels like people at the game are approaching Darwin Award levels or stupidity

The only saving grace with that is that the advisory doesn't kick in until late sunday night. Though it's not like forcasts are always accurate down to the hour

The advisory starts Sat night and becomes a warning Sun night. The game should last until ~8pm Sunday night.

Honestly the NFL should move this to Saturday or they're risking a lot of lawsuits from fans/employees/NFLPA. They cannot claim ignorance here.

If you move it, it'd have to be postponed. The logistics of moving it up this quickly would be tough to pull off.


Postponing is worse considering the weather stays bad until Tuesday. It'd have to go earlier. Granted at this point their best bet might be finding a dome to play in.

Feels like there's something missing here. That or the NFL is gambling that the weather improves.
2014-01-03 07:12:59 PM
1 votes:

netweavr: Lost Thought 00: netweavr: WILL CREATE DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILL VALUES IN THE 35 BELOW TO 55 BELOW ZERO RANGE SUNDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. FROSTBITE COULD OCCUR IN 10 MINUTES.

This feels like people at the game are approaching Darwin Award levels or stupidity

The only saving grace with that is that the advisory doesn't kick in until late sunday night. Though it's not like forcasts are always accurate down to the hour

The advisory starts Sat night and becomes a warning Sun night. The game should last until ~8pm Sunday night.

Honestly the NFL should move this to Saturday or they're risking a lot of lawsuits from fans/employees/NFLPA. They cannot claim ignorance here.


If you move it, it'd have to be postponed. The logistics of moving it up this quickly would be tough to pull off.
2014-01-03 07:07:27 PM
1 votes:

Lost Thought 00: New Age Redneck: As someone who grew up in Saskatchewan

Regardless of what your flawed memory tells you, you didn't sit stationary for 4-5 hours in -40 even with your heavy gear on.


I propose a forced halftime walk.  Everyone gets up and walks around the bowl until their back where they started.
2014-01-03 07:06:35 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com

They bought their tickets. I say let 'em freeze.

/Will be watching the game from the comfort of my centrally heated house 1000 miles south of Wisconsin.
//love watching football in the snow.
2014-01-03 07:00:59 PM
1 votes:
Neat. I predict a death on the field during this game
2014-01-03 06:55:40 PM
1 votes:

imapirate: Bengals fan. I was thinking about driving up for the game but we're supposed to get -20F on Sunday with the wind chill.


It won't get that cold in Cincy until the middle of the night Sunday.  Right now, Weather Channel hourly has 36 feel like 29 at 1PM and 26 feel like 15 at 6PM, though there could be several inches of snow during the game.
2014-01-03 06:52:12 PM
1 votes:

imapirate: Warlordtrooper: But they had no problem delaying the first game of the season....

They did? Where'd I miss that?


It was delayed due to lightning.
2014-01-03 06:47:25 PM
1 votes:
farking hell am I glad I came back down south.  Worst I ever dealt with was something like 5F in DC.  Wind tunnel in the Metro probably made it about -10 with wind chill, but walking made it bearable for the 5 minutes it took to get to my building.

Sitting outside at a football game for four hours in worse than that is wrong.
2014-01-03 06:41:12 PM
1 votes:
But they had no problem delaying the first game of the season....
2014-01-03 06:39:56 PM
1 votes:
Was reading that Wind Chill may play this game at -53 deg F. That'd be enough to cause injury.

There's a point where the NFL or possibly OSHA cancels the game due to elements, right?
2014-01-03 06:36:57 PM
1 votes:

imapirate: crotchgrabber: I remember a Raiders game that Microsoft bought a bunch of tickets for just to make sure it wasn't blacked out. They had some commercial time for something they were releasing and wanted to make sure it got aired. I foresee something like that happening. And I thought black-out rules were different for play off games.

Not sure on the playoff blackout rules. I live in Louisville and I'm a Bengals fan. I was thinking about driving up for the game but we're supposed to get -20F on Sunday with the wind chill. F*ck that. And I saw the NFL was threatening to blackout Cincy because - shocker here - it's hard to get 70,000 people to want to sit in that weather. Kroger swooped in and bought up all the remaining seats so I guess problem solved, but the NFL are still megadickwads.

I'm a Louisville football season ticket holder, and I'm usually the guy yelling at people to not leave before the game's over, brave the weather, etc. But -30F is just farking dangerous, man. Forget that, even for Green Bay.


There's another article on it over in the total fark cue about it. NFL has shortened the blackout cut off to 48 hours before the game instead of the usual 72. I'm thinking this is the last year of that rule.
2014-01-03 06:02:42 PM
1 votes:
I remember hearing someone describe the Ice bowl. Many people were wearing sleeping bags and kept their beer bottles inside the bag so it didn't freeze. People were holding it so long that you could hear screams coming from the Men's room.
2014-01-03 05:11:00 PM
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: "Temperatures will be in the single digits and dropping when the San Francisco 49ers and Green Bay Packers kick off Sunday afternoon.

Really?  Because, living here in Northern Canada, I have gear for temperatures much colder than that.  Normal winter coats here are rated to -45 or so.  This may be my chance to get playoff tickets for cheap!  Of course, it'd be damned expensive to get there...


Just looked on the secondary market, and you can get 50 yard line seats in the first 25 rows for $175.  What a deal, if you have the gear for it...
2014-01-03 05:03:28 PM
1 votes:
"Temperatures will be in the single digits and dropping when the San Francisco 49ers and Green Bay Packers kick off Sunday afternoon.

Really?  Because, living here in Northern Canada, I have gear for temperatures much colder than that.  Normal winter coats here are rated to -45 or so.  This may be my chance to get playoff tickets for cheap!  Of course, it'd be damned expensive to get there...
2014-01-03 04:57:03 PM
1 votes:
Am I supposed to recognize the woman in the photo? Or the backdrop?
2014-01-03 04:55:03 PM
1 votes:
Do it for FOOTBALL!

It's your patriotic duty.
 
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