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(Wired)   Arachnophobia is cultural. This was proven with Doctor Who pictures. No, really   (wired.com) divider line 58
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2014-01-03 04:17:13 PM
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2014-01-03 04:25:45 PM
BS. It's instinct, like a healthy fear of heights and English cooking.
 
2014-01-03 04:30:30 PM
I don't know, I feel like our culture has largely forgotten that movie.
 
2014-01-03 04:33:00 PM
Why do so many people hate spiders?

It's not a big mystery. Spiders and snakes are the two most commonly encountered animals that have the capacity to kill humans, so we evolved an irrational fear of them as a survival mechanism.
 
2014-01-03 04:33:02 PM

Mentalpatient87: I don't know, I feel like our culture has largely forgotten that movie.


Not me. I love that movie even though I HATE spiders. I'm drawn to it like I am all these spider threads. I credit John Goodman.

Also, I've always noticed that Arachnophobia is visible on Jerry's movie shelf in Seinfeld.
 
2014-01-03 04:33:39 PM
So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

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2014-01-03 04:35:11 PM
Not buying it.  The test doesn't necessarily prove that aversion to spiders is cultural, ionly that the end result is the same as cultural aversion.
 
2014-01-03 04:35:58 PM

Ishkur: Why do so many people hate spiders?

It's not a big mystery. Spiders and snakes are the two most commonly encountered animals that have the capacity to kill humans, so we evolved an irrational fear of them as a survival mechanism.


Or you could read the article....
 
2014-01-03 04:36:15 PM

soporific: So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

whynotboth.jpg


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2014-01-03 04:36:40 PM
I find it curious/interesting that they used a picture of a jumping spider, which is the only spider that does not set off a berserker-like rage in me, in an article about arachnophobia.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-01-03 04:36:55 PM
One of the author's previous contributions to the internet is titled "Musical Genitals."
 
2014-01-03 04:38:08 PM
static1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-01-03 04:38:16 PM
so...I'm not super fluent in the scientific process, but what dafuq does Dr. Who have to do with this?
 
2014-01-03 04:38:17 PM
This doesn't prove it's cultural at all, it just proves that not everyone is afraid of spiders. Presumably many of those people who weren't afraid shared the same culture, if not all the same subcultures, as those who were afraid.
 
2014-01-03 04:39:00 PM

Ishkur: Why do so many people hate spiders?

It's not a big mystery. Spiders and snakes are the two most commonly encountered animals that have the capacity to kill humans, so we evolved an irrational fear of them as a survival mechanism.


Bees are wasps are both more deadly and more commonly encountered, but we seem to be a little less averse to them than to snakes and spiders.  Not saying that necessarily disproves evolutionary fear (evolution doesn't always make perfect sense).
 
2014-01-03 04:39:29 PM
Could have done this in the 80s with D&D nerds.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-03 04:40:59 PM
I wasn't raised around a fear of spiders, snakes, or any other crawly things... and I'm not.  I understand that doesn't work for everyone, but it did for me and my siblings.
 
2014-01-03 04:41:36 PM

HighZoolander: Or you could read the article....


The only thing the article did was remind me how awful that Christmas episode was (The Runaway Bride). Seriously, that spider woman wasn't scary at all. She was so campy and over-the-top she reminded me of Rita Repulsa from Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
 
2014-01-03 04:41:57 PM
Was this the picture?

doctorher.com
 
2014-01-03 04:42:54 PM
I would've run with the results showing that David Tennant is as distracting as a spider, but I guess that's why I'm not a scientist.
 
2014-01-03 04:44:36 PM
Watch Arachnophobia in 7th grade at school (last day before summer break). Been scared ever since. Slowly getting better but got a spider bite recently so that set me back a little.

//I was saving the bugger too
//they would never allow a movie like that in school today, methinks.
 
2014-01-03 04:47:44 PM

ghettodwarf: so...I'm not super fluent in the scientific process, but what dafuq does Dr. Who have to do with this?


Three groups tried to pick a horse out of a series of images - that included a spider, the Doctor, and a spider - as fast as possible. The control group didn't care about Doctor Who or spiders, and they finished the fastest. The group that liked Doctor Who (and weren't afraid of spiders) finished slower because they were distracted by David Tennant. The group that hated spiders (and didn't care about Doctor Who) finished slower because they were distracted by spiders. Ergo we've either evolved to focus on the threat both Doctor Who and spiders cause to us, or we're culturally conditioned to fixate on both of them.
 
2014-01-03 04:48:06 PM
img.fark.net
Are you instead of a spider, was a time beetle?
 
2014-01-03 04:53:17 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: ghettodwarf: so...I'm not super fluent in the scientific process, but what dafuq does Dr. Who have to do with this?

Three groups tried to pick a horse out of a series of images - that included a spider, the Doctor, and a spider - as fast as possible. The control group didn't care about Doctor Who or spiders, and they finished the fastest. The group that liked Doctor Who (and weren't afraid of spiders) finished slower because they were distracted by David Tennant. The group that hated spiders (and didn't care about Doctor Who) finished slower because they were distracted by spiders. Ergo we've either evolved to focus on the threat both Doctor Who and spiders cause to us, or we're culturally conditioned to fixate on both of them.


OHHHHHH I get it, you see, I only skimmed the article because I don't care about doctor who and spiders give me the hebes (hee-bee-gee-bee's not hebrews). Thanks for paying enough attention to 'splain it to us dumbs.
 
2014-01-03 04:53:44 PM

aerojockey: Bees are wasps are both more deadly and more commonly encountered, but we seem to be a little less averse to them than to snakes and spiders. Not saying that necessarily disproves evolutionary fear (evolution doesn't always make perfect sense).


On the contrary, bees and wasps are encountered so frequently that a lot of people (it may be cultural) have little to no reaction to their stings (I'm one of them). Sure, others are allergic, but it does appear that familiarity defines how we react to the danger as a species. Also, bees are useful. It's the only insect successfully domesticated by man. That eliminates the fear. Wasps, however, are assholes (and many people possess... sphexophobia? whatever the fear of wasps would be).

Certain tribes in the Amazon are immune to tarantulas and fire ants, and eat them in abundance. Because they've gone through the necessary trials of familiarity, adaptation, and then immunity, the once-prevalent fear has been eliminated by beneficial properties.

So an argument can be made that anything encountered that poses a risk to life is to be feared, except when it is encountered so frequently that immunity develops. This would take hundreds of generations, however.
 
2014-01-03 04:54:11 PM
So what will Whovians notice first in the future if there is(unlikely)another gendered doctor or a doctor from an ethnicity other than Anglo-Saxon?
 
2014-01-03 04:54:23 PM

Russ1642: BS. It's instinct,


This. I show no fear of spiders ( I used to be quite afraid of them but got over it...as long as they stay off me) and neither does my husband but my 3 year old son sure hates them. He got a bag of plastic spiders on his birthday and he's afraid to touch them.
 
2014-01-03 04:56:28 PM
A more pertinent question would be why Australians (who live where spiders kill people on a daily basis) are not afraid of spiders and midwestern Americans (most of whom spend their whole lives without ever seeing a black widow or a brown recluse) freak out and run around like crazy people when they spot a house spider?

/grew up in the land of clock spider
//and foot-long heat-seeking centipedes
///centipedes scary, spiders not so much
 
2014-01-03 04:58:32 PM

Satanic_Hamster: soporific: So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

whynotboth.jpg

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I'm pretty sure the middle and right pics are from an episode of Merlin, but whatever...
 
2014-01-03 05:02:06 PM

Pilikia: A more pertinent question would be why Australians (who live where spiders kill people on a daily basis) are not afraid of spiders and midwestern Americans (most of whom spend their whole lives without ever seeing a black widow or a brown recluse) freak out and run around like crazy people when they spot a house spider?

/grew up in the land of clock spider
//and foot-long heat-seeking centipedes
///centipedes scary, spiders not so much


Experience. If you were to be regularly confronted with poisonous spiders, and you survive every encounter, you would be less inclined to overestimate the danger of said spider. Yet in a country where every dangerous spider gets hyped, people tend to have a skewed view of how dangerous spiders actually are.

/Not exactly afraid of spiders
//Still won't pet a tarantula
 
2014-01-03 05:03:22 PM

DerAppie: Pilikia: A more pertinent question would be why Australians (who live where spiders kill people on a daily basis) are not afraid of spiders and midwestern Americans (most of whom spend their whole lives without ever seeing a black widow or a brown recluse) freak out and run around like crazy people when they spot a house spider?

/grew up in the land of clock spider
//and foot-long heat-seeking centipedes
///centipedes scary, spiders not so much

Experience. If you were to be regularly confronted with poisonous spiders, and you survive every encounter, you would be less inclined to overestimate the danger of said spider. Yet in a country where every dangerous spider gets hyped, people tend to have a skewed view of how dangerous spiders actually are.

/Not exactly afraid of spiders
//Still won't pet a tarantula


Your reply makes perfect sense. What the hell are you doing on Fark?
 
2014-01-03 05:03:43 PM
Arachnohobia(the movie) gave me nightmares. As in woke up flailing in bed kind of nightmares.

/CSS

I came downstairs once and found a brown spider as big as my hand sitting on the kitchen counter. The thing was farkin' ginormous! It was probably harmless but I flipped my shiat and proceeded to kill it poison, fire, and big heavy objects.
 
2014-01-03 05:13:32 PM

Ishkur: Why do so many people hate spiders?

It's not a big mystery. Spiders and snakes are the two most commonly encountered animals that have the capacity to kill humans, so we evolved an irrational fear of them as a survival mechanism.


... But that's not what it takes to love me.
 - C. Twitty
 
2014-01-03 05:13:52 PM

Ishkur: Certain tribes in the Amazon are immune to tarantulas


Tarantulas in the Amazon, while venomous, aren't significantly venomous to humans. You have to go to the eastern hemisphere to find those.

Not saying there aren't significantly venomous spiders in the western hemisphere, they just aren't tarantulas.

These guys are like puppys:
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2014-01-03 05:14:29 PM

Pilikia: Your reply makes perfect sense. What the hell are you doing on Fark?


I am bringing culture to barbarians.
 
2014-01-03 05:16:39 PM

r1niceboy: Satanic_Hamster: soporific: So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

whynotboth.jpg

[media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm pretty sure the middle and right pics are from an episode of Merlin, but whatever...


More of; it's the same woman.
 
2014-01-03 05:18:41 PM

Pilikia: DerAppie: Pilikia: A more pertinent question would be why Australians (who live where spiders kill people on a daily basis) are not afraid of spiders and midwestern Americans (most of whom spend their whole lives without ever seeing a black widow or a brown recluse) freak out and run around like crazy people when they spot a house spider?

/grew up in the land of clock spider
//and foot-long heat-seeking centipedes
///centipedes scary, spiders not so much

Experience. If you were to be regularly confronted with poisonous spiders, and you survive every encounter, you would be less inclined to overestimate the danger of said spider. Yet in a country where every dangerous spider gets hyped, people tend to have a skewed view of how dangerous spiders actually are.

/Not exactly afraid of spiders
//Still won't pet a tarantula

Your reply makes perfect sense. What the hell are you doing on Fark?


Boobies: 2011-11-11 20:03:28 (2 years ago). Give it a while longer.
 
2014-01-03 05:34:30 PM
soporific
So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

whynotboth.jpg


I could add Sherlock Holmes.
As a little kid I was a bit afraid of spiders - or rather air ducts - because I was too young when I watched that Basil Rathbone Holmes story where people are murdered in their sleep via a large spider that is made to crawl through the air duct into the victim's bedroom.
 
2014-01-03 05:38:21 PM
Just here to say this is the first time I've seen the WIRED banner next to the Weird tag.  Cool, and yet it's one of those situations where I cannot stop my mind from immediately falling victim to a bout of dyslexia.
 
2014-01-03 05:52:32 PM

Satanic_Hamster: r1niceboy: Satanic_Hamster: soporific: So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

whynotboth.jpg

[media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm pretty sure the middle and right pics are from an episode of Merlin, but whatever...

More of; it's the same woman.


Have that spider makeup cleaned off and send her to my chambers.
 
2014-01-03 06:27:29 PM
There is a spider on the screen?
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2014-01-03 06:30:08 PM

verbaltoxin: Satanic_Hamster: r1niceboy: Satanic_Hamster: soporific: So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

whynotboth.jpg

[media.tumblr.com image 500x333]

I'm pretty sure the middle and right pics are from an episode of Merlin, but whatever...

More of; it's the same woman.

Have that spider makeup cleaned off and send her to my chambers.


What, you don't want her dressed up like she was in the middle photo?
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2014-01-03 06:45:32 PM
I love spiders. They are great for my garden and spin really cool webs sometimes. Inside the house, they are dead meat if I see them, but that goes for any insect, unless it is very easy to get them outside. Their domain is outside, inside is mine. Oh, and the two cats don't let anything but humans live long in here.

Also a Whovian and had to Google why the TARDIS has remained a police box. Fourth or fifth hit down gave the most thorough explanation. Cool!
 
2014-01-03 07:13:37 PM

I want your skull: [Toilet spiders. Giant toilet spiders. Sleep tight.]


In addition to the 'Smart' and 'Funny' vote buttons, Fark needs a 'HolyJebusGetItOffGetItOffGetItOff!!!' button.
 
2014-01-03 07:19:18 PM
They should have used one of the questions from The Book of Stupid Questions:

Q. Would you rather:
a) share a sleeping bag with an 800-pound tarantula or
b) drink a bottle of Clorox?

I'm going with (b).
 
2014-01-03 07:34:31 PM

Russ1642: BS. It's instinct, like a healthy fear of heights and English cooking.



Both fear of heights and fear of spiders are learned, or at least not instinctual. The former I'm less familiar with but, fairly convinced by the literature and the latter is basically inarguable if you've read Karen Adolph's research.
 
2014-01-03 07:36:51 PM
I'm much more frightened of Colin Baker than spiders.
 
2014-01-03 08:09:03 PM
 
2014-01-03 09:49:24 PM
Been living in Australia for the last year or so. Huntsmen spiders inside (Yes, they are harmless but still) , redbacks in the garden, and in the new place the basement was fumigated a while ago after the neighbors found a bunch of funnelwebs there. Irrational fear? I´m not so sure.
 
2014-01-03 10:00:39 PM

The Voice of Doom: soporific
So is this a Doctor Who thread or a Spider thread?

whynotboth.jpg

I could add Sherlock Holmes.
As a little kid I was a bit afraid of spiders - or rather air ducts - because I was too young when I watched that Basil Rathbone Holmes story where people are murdered in their sleep via a large spider that is made to crawl through the air duct into the victim's bedroom.


Pretty sure that was The Speckled Band, which was a large venemous snake crawling through the air duct.

Also, I can joke that after seeing Arachnophobia with my ex girlfriend, I promptly started dating boys, since I'll forever associate women with that sheer horror of that movie.

(Ok, not really, but I did break up with her not long after seeing it. But I already had a bf. She was just a beard anyway.)
 
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