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2014-01-03 11:39:40 AM
Just make sure you don't mistake Starbucks for St<a>rbucks:

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2014-01-03 01:42:35 PM

SmackLT: Just make sure you don't mistake Starbucks for St<a>rbucks:

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I don't know, some people would want to make that mistake.
 
2014-01-03 01:46:41 PM
Or you could just keep the Starbucks gift cards, get a coffee while you surf all the free porn all the internet. Not that I would do such a thing! I only use my internets for fark and cats!
 
2014-01-03 01:49:02 PM
gives whole new meaning to "jacked up on coffee"
 
2014-01-03 01:50:14 PM
I'll have the fapaccino with cream
 
2014-01-03 01:50:15 PM
There are a number of services that exchange gift cards for cash... and at good rates.

You can even sell your gift cards on ebay for around 95% of face value.
 
2014-01-03 01:50:53 PM

bbfreak: Or you could just keep the Starbucks gift cards, get a coffee while you surf all the free porn all the internet. Not that I would do such a thing! I only use my internets for fark and cats!


Pretty much this. Do people that write these articles know that there is a whole world out there of free porn?
 
2014-01-03 01:53:11 PM
so, there was a link at the bottom to see famous porn stars without make up.  i never knew there were famous porn stars.
 
2014-01-03 02:00:41 PM

pute kisses like a man: so, there was a link at the bottom to see famous porn stars without make up.  i never knew there were famous porn stars.


You have obviously never met the professional porn detectives of the internet.
 
2014-01-03 02:09:41 PM
Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.

So I actually use the GCs (I only take Amazon) but from a limited number of people, since it doesn't pay my rent/bills.

But I've been seeing it as an open alt payment for awhile now, and not just in porn. But anything that allows clients to protect their privacy, I'm a fan of.
 
2014-01-03 02:16:01 PM

pute kisses like a man: so, there was a link at the bottom to see famous porn stars without make up.  i never knew there were famous porn stars.


Came for this (not literally...this time)

It was interesting for a couple dozen until I got bored.
 
2014-01-03 02:19:10 PM

Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.



If you're paying 30% for credit card processing, your doing it wrong.

My paypal account allows me to take credit cards and the charge rate is 3%. Whether I get $50 or $750.

Never tried anything higher than that.
 
2014-01-03 02:31:39 PM

Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.

So I actually use the GCs (I only take Amazon) but from a limited number of people, since it doesn't pay my rent/bills.

But I've been seeing it as an open alt payment for awhile now, and not just in porn. But anything that allows clients to protect their privacy, I'm a fan of.


This is what bugged me about Star Trek. So the Federation and her citizens don't have or use money? Bullshiat. There's always some cloaking device or tribbles that you want to smuggle around, so you need a discreet currency to trade with. I bet holodeck sex minutes would be about as good of a currency as any.
 
2014-01-03 02:33:39 PM

Frankentots: pute kisses like a man: so, there was a link at the bottom to see famous porn stars without make up.  i never knew there were famous porn stars.

You have obviously never met the professional porn detectives of the internet.


you mean fark?
 
2014-01-03 02:57:40 PM

pute kisses like a man: Frankentots: pute kisses like a man: so, there was a link at the bottom to see famous porn stars without make up.  i never knew there were famous porn stars.

You have obviously never met the professional porn detectives of the internet.

you mean fark?


Every site has their own porn detective bureau.  Someone should consider setting up a porn detective convention, complete with contests.  Like those radio contests to see who can identify a song the fastest, but with buttholes.
 
2014-01-03 03:27:01 PM

bbfreak: Or you could just keep the Starbucks gift cards, get a coffee while you surf all the free porn all the internet. Not that I would do such a thing! I only use my internets for fark and cats!


I initially read that as "farking cats!"

And,...um..oh my!
 
2014-01-03 03:54:03 PM

Trocadero: Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.

So I actually use the GCs (I only take Amazon) but from a limited number of people, since it doesn't pay my rent/bills.

But I've been seeing it as an open alt payment for awhile now, and not just in porn. But anything that allows clients to protect their privacy, I'm a fan of.

This is what bugged me about Star Trek. So the Federation and her citizens don't have or use money? Bullshiat. There's always some cloaking device or tribbles that you want to smuggle around, so you need a discreet currency to trade with. I bet holodeck sex minutes would be about as good of a currency as any.


They don't use currency because they live in a post-scarcity economy, thanks to the replicators fed by abundant free energy. Holodeck minutes are free as long as a holodeck is available... If not, just replicate the parts for one. I don't know exactly why anyone in the rest of the universe trades in anything but replicators, but I'm sure the Star Trek wiki or something has the answer.
 
2014-01-03 04:11:56 PM

Pangea: Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.


If you're paying 30% for credit card processing, your doing it wrong.

My paypal account allows me to take credit cards and the charge rate is 3%. Whether I get $50 or $750.

Never tried anything higher than that.


Paypal does not allow you to bill for adult services. And most platforms have that exception (due they claim to fraud issues). So you can use paypal on the downlow but if it's discovered you will lose your paypal account, and I know one sex worker who (claims, as I can't/don't verify it personally) she also lost $5k that paypal seized from her account.

Adult services billing is a huge issue and problem in the industry, and that's just for legal services.

And yes, I'm well aware that many use conventional platforms on the downlow...I do too. But you take your risks doing so and you do not have the protections everyone else has doing biz. And that's why ppl use platforms that take such a huge chunk...we don't have to deal with chargebacks, fraud, or the money being randomly seized because we have no recourse.
 
2014-01-03 04:18:08 PM

Trocadero: Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.

So I actually use the GCs (I only take Amazon) but from a limited number of people, since it doesn't pay my rent/bills.

But I've been seeing it as an open alt payment for awhile now, and not just in porn. But anything that allows clients to protect their privacy, I'm a fan of.

This is what bugged me about Star Trek. So the Federation and her citizens don't have or use money? Bullshiat. There's always some cloaking device or tribbles that you want to smuggle around, so you need a discreet currency to trade with. I bet holodeck sex minutes would be about as good of a currency as any.


Gold pressed latinum. But it's an interesting thought exercise, in a society where all 'needs' can be met, and are met...what then holds value beyond that? Things that people create, of course. With duplication, everyone can have 'copies' of creations...but if you want something made especially for you, or an original...then that holds a specific value related to the time, talent, scarcity, etc.

Thus there will always be a need for currency that reflects that. I very much enjoy creating general releases of my work...but I also very much enjoy the challenge of creating private custom work for clients. I could do the former in a society where all my needs and most of my wants were easily met. There would have to be a value system though for the latter.

Of course, one could also have programs that could create very customized works too. But there will *always* be a market for the human element, IMHO.

And yes, I would farking love to create holodeck porn and in a Star Trek universe, I'd do it for free.
 
2014-01-03 04:45:47 PM

Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons.


Um... why don't they just pay in cash?
 
2014-01-03 04:54:40 PM

pute kisses like a man: so, there was a link at the bottom to see famous porn stars without make up.  i never knew there were famous porn stars.


See what Lily Thai has been up to.
 
2014-01-03 05:34:03 PM

Jument: Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons.

Um... why don't they just pay in cash?


It's a little suspicious on a joint account if one party takes out a large cash withdrawal.
 
2014-01-03 05:42:11 PM

Lady Indica: Pangea: Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.


If you're paying 30% for credit card processing, your doing it wrong.

My paypal account allows me to take credit cards and the charge rate is 3%. Whether I get $50 or $750.

Never tried anything higher than that.

Paypal does not allow you to bill for adult services. And most platforms have that exception (due they claim to fraud issues). So you can use paypal on the downlow but if it's discovered you will lose your paypal account, and I know one sex worker who (claims, as I can't/don't verify it personally) she also lost $5k that paypal seized from her account.

Adult services billing is a huge issue and problem in the industry, and that's just for legal services.

And yes, I'm well aware that many use conventional platforms on the downlow...I do too. But you take your risks doing so and you do not have the protections everyone else has doing biz. And that's why ppl use platforms that take such a huge chunk...we don't have to deal with chargebacks, fraud, or the money being randomly seized because we have no recourse.


Well that's out of my realm. Seems like gouging just cause they can get away with it though.
 
2014-01-03 05:51:25 PM

Pangea: Lady Indica: Pangea: Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons. When you consider most banks/platforms take at *least* 30% for payment processing, then what you lose selling GCs to a 3rd party (usually you can get around 80% of value) it ends up a wash with the effort, etc.


If you're paying 30% for credit card processing, your doing it wrong.

My paypal account allows me to take credit cards and the charge rate is 3%. Whether I get $50 or $750.

Never tried anything higher than that.

Paypal does not allow you to bill for adult services. And most platforms have that exception (due they claim to fraud issues). So you can use paypal on the downlow but if it's discovered you will lose your paypal account, and I know one sex worker who (claims, as I can't/don't verify it personally) she also lost $5k that paypal seized from her account.

Adult services billing is a huge issue and problem in the industry, and that's just for legal services.

And yes, I'm well aware that many use conventional platforms on the downlow...I do too. But you take your risks doing so and you do not have the protections everyone else has doing biz. And that's why ppl use platforms that take such a huge chunk...we don't have to deal with chargebacks, fraud, or the money being randomly seized because we have no recourse.

Well that's out of my realm. Seems like gouging just cause they can get away with it though.


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All they got from Paulie was protection from other guys looking to rip them off. That's what it's all about. That's what the FBI can never understand - that what Paulie and the organization offer is protection for the kinds of guys who can't go to the cops. They're like the police department for wiseguys.
 
2014-01-03 07:07:29 PM

Trocadero: Jument: Lady Indica: Been going on awhile. I have a small number of clients who pay with gift cards for privacy reasons.

Um... why don't they just pay in cash?

It's a little suspicious on a joint account if one party takes out a large cash withdrawal.


I guess but wouldn't a number of unusually large purchases at Starbucks and other stores also be suspicious?

I have joint finances with my wife and no money of my own. If I needed money for something I would probably start making small cashback withdrawals over time at Safeway.
 
2014-01-04 01:34:32 AM
Will try to answer all in one post.

Sounds like gouging? Yeah, it is. Many biz shy away from any association with porn, even design agencies when you want graphics. So there's that aspect. There was also (as I understand it) quite a bit of money laundering at various times too, so that's another issue that banking gives a shiat about if it impacts them adversely in any way. And credit card fraud was another issue. However, all those problems aside, it is a much bigger issue of just being gouged in a 'vice' industry that is deeply looked down upon in ways that are really insidious.

Why not just always take cash? Not all sex workers are doing PIV (penis in vagina) person to person work. I don't meet with my clients in person, all my work currently is done via phone and/or cam. And I only do cam with a very limited number of clients. That's just my one on one work, I also produce and sell my own fetish porn. And every platform I sell THAT through takes an even bigger cut. (yay :(). 40% is average there. That's generally because they're not only processing payment, but they're also 'charging' you their fees for allowing your stuff on their site, etc. And there are many out there who get ripped off selling through shiatty vendors. I use a very limited number but I've never had problems getting ripped off, so there's that. Even person to person sex workers don't always want to do a cash transaction. My work doesn't involve this, so this is all second hand accounts from sex workers I know personally. But there's a lot of flakes out there, people who will set and not keep appointments. So it's a good idea esp w/ new clients (that you've cleared via various ways, the best is referrals from other sex workers, but many are happy w/ just verifying you work somewhere somewhat public [where it couldn't be faked]. You're less likely to beat and murder someone if you know they have your real name and place of employement to leave w/ a friend.) Anyhoo due to the wankers (intentional time wasters) and flakes, most in person sex workers will require payment in part or full up front to even set the appt. And may keep to this policy beyond a first session. It's also awkward at times for one or both parties to discuss payment right before or after. Making the biz transaction of payment separate (outside of D/s themes or fin domme, or other fetishes) is generally MUCH easier for most sex workers.

GC wouldn't hide cash from spouses: If you're using a pay per view or membership site that runs basic around $25 a month, it's probably not an issue. And some will use GC just for privacy not in their marriage but because they are paranoid about porn being on their billing. And many people in a marriage tend to have a 'don't ask, don't tell' porn policy, where the spouse isn't concerned about it specifically but they want nothing to do with it.

I bill at $180/hr for phone and most of my titles average about $30 each. No one is hiding that expense from their partner via GC spending. It's typically privacy freaks or people who have to worry about background checks revealing their completely legal fetish. Or in some cases b/c they can't use the billing platforms w/ their CC and they don't wish to use more direct on the downlow methods b/c it would expose their information to the sex worker.

Basically anything that makes it easier for people to legally buy and distribute porn...yay. Esp if the money is going right to the actual performers. The only aspect I dislike is the problem of age verification. I get that teens are going to watch porn, but I really don't want it to be easy for them to acquire mine.
 
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