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(eMarkets Daily)   Ford plans to release solar hybrid concept car, also known as the Douchemobile in honor of the smug, superior, obnoxiously holier-than-though target demo   ( emarketsdaily.com) divider line
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2014-01-03 08:58:40 AM  
Damn those self-centered douches, buying cars that make the world better for everyone.
 
2014-01-03 09:02:23 AM  
...as opposed to the completely non-douchey F-150 target demographic.
 
2014-01-03 09:11:09 AM  

UberDave: ...as opposed to the completely non-douchey F-150 target demographic.


Now, this is coming from someone who drives a Hyundai Accent that has so many antennas on it it looks like some sort of giant, metallic pleistocene hedgehog, but I find that F-150 drivers, on the whole, tend to be less douchey than, say, Prius or Volt drivers.
 
2014-01-03 09:11:34 AM  

Diogenes: Damn those self-centered douches, buying cars that make the world better for everyone.


Caring about the world is for losers!
 
2014-01-03 09:11:41 AM  
subby sounds republican.
 
2014-01-03 09:12:02 AM  
God dammit, what part of 1200w/m^2 doesn't everyone understand?
 
2014-01-03 09:12:24 AM  
"Holier than though?"
"Forget it - he's rolling."

www.sondrakistan.com
 
2014-01-03 09:15:20 AM  
Let's just face it--anyone who might even in passing consider buying a more energy efficient car than what subby drives is a scourge upon society and should be socially stigmatized and mocked.  In fact, it wouldn't be too far out of line to simply euthanize anyone who has ever driven, manufactured, designed or even viewed a car more efficient than the current US fleet average MPG.  Imagine how much better off we would be if we just simply applied this euthanasia policy on a continual basis, just adjusting the fleet average MPG after each round of trimming.
 
2014-01-03 09:17:13 AM  
Holy cow! Take my money! Well, take some of my money. That sounds fantastic, but I'm a cheap ass when it comes to cars.
 
2014-01-03 09:18:22 AM  

Jodeo: "Holier than though?"
"Forget it - he's rolling."

[www.sondrakistan.com image 575x308]


If thighn eye offends thee, pluck it out.
 
2014-01-03 09:20:34 AM  
So BMW bought Ford, then?
 
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2014-01-03 09:22:29 AM  
I suspect that in the real world this thing will give one day of driving for every month parked in a sunny spot.  (except for Februaries).

I'll bet it would be great if you live in London and work near that magnifying building that melts cars.
 
2014-01-03 09:23:34 AM  

Diogenes: Damn those self-centered douches, buying cars that make the world better for everyone.


Doubt they will actually do that with this.

Its a hybrid with solar panels too small to charge anything within a reasonable timespan.
Its more of a "look at me, I care about the environment so I bolted alot of unnecessarily heavy crap on my car to advertise how very fuel efficient I'm being!" car.

Get a sensible econo-box or a diesel and you'd be doing more good for the environment.
Getting this nonsense is hipster-useless levels of environmentalism.
 
2014-01-03 09:24:28 AM  
So Smitts - did you sh*t yourself via forcing all those farts in your Hummer on the way to work this morning?
 
2014-01-03 09:28:21 AM  
When you people make a judgement about someone's character, do you immediately then ask them what kind of car they drive? Or are you actually talking to them while they're in their cars? How else do you know if drivers of certain cars tend to be a certain way?
 
2014-01-03 09:28:52 AM  

dittybopper: UberDave: ...as opposed to the completely non-douchey F-150 target demographic.

Now, this is coming from someone who drives a Hyundai Accent that has so many antennas on it it looks like some sort of giant, metallic pleistocene hedgehog, but I find that F-150 drivers, on the whole, tend to be less douchey than, say, Prius or Volt drivers.


I've never seen a Prius done up like this:

wonkette.com

/yes, I know that's not an F150
//but I tend to see pickup trucks of all makes and models with a bunch of shiat like that on there
///and, as proven in Shortpacked, the more bumper stickers you have, the bigger douchebag you are
 
2014-01-03 09:32:34 AM  

way south: Diogenes: Damn those self-centered douches, buying cars that make the world better for everyone.

Doubt they will actually do that with this.

Its a hybrid with solar panels too small to charge anything within a reasonable timespan.
Its more of a "look at me, I care about the environment so I bolted alot of unnecessarily heavy crap on my car to advertise how very fuel efficient I'm being!" car.

Get a sensible econo-box or a diesel and you'd be doing more good for the environment.
Getting this nonsense is hipster-useless levels of environmentalism.


According to TFA, Ford is claiming the car can run off of solar power only 75% of the time.  Of course, that's marketing and probably comes with a ton of caveats, but it sounds like they're banking on this not being "hipster-useless"

/and does "hipster" actually mean anything anymore besides "I don't like these people"?
 
2014-01-03 09:37:06 AM  

dittybopper: UberDave: ...as opposed to the completely non-douchey F-150 target demographic.

Now, this is coming from someone who drives a Hyundai Accent that has so many antennas on it it looks like some sort of giant, metallic pleistocene hedgehog, but I find that F-150 drivers, on the whole, tend to be less douchey than, say, Prius or Volt drivers.


Come to Houston.  They don't install turn signals on F150s or Chevy Silverados...apparently.  And I don't think I've ever seen a Prius or Volt purposely block traffic or gun their engine to simply keep people from getting in front of them even though those other drivers/vehicles were not going to have *any* effect on their commute....or break-checking people, or consistently ride people's asses, etc.  And they certainly don't weave a behemoth vehicle in out of traffic at breakneck speed on a regular basis and drive like merging responsibility is something everyone else is supposed to do.  They're not alone for sure and maybe it's just a numbers things plus being in a big city but I could, at this very moment, drive from Clear Lake to downtown Houston at this very moment and see at *least* half of what I describe perpetrated by some dick driving one of those trucks.  And to be fair Luxury SUV and Chevy Suburban drivers are probably worse.
 
2014-01-03 09:42:30 AM  
A lot of automotive experts here who know this thing won't work.  I think we'd be a lot farther with this sort of technology and electric cars if certain groups of people wasn't fighting it tooth and nail.

/oil ftw!
 
2014-01-03 09:43:34 AM  

way south: Diogenes: Damn those self-centered douches, buying cars that make the world better for everyone.

Doubt they will actually do that with this.

Its a hybrid with solar panels too small to charge anything within a reasonable timespan.
Its more of a "look at me, I care about the environment so I bolted alot of unnecessarily heavy crap on my car to advertise how very fuel efficient I'm being!" car.

Get a sensible econo-box or a diesel and you'd be doing more good for the environment.
Getting this nonsense is hipster-useless levels of environmentalism.


Except that having ANY help charging the electric part of the hybrid is just that-help. Less work done by the gasoline engine=better. Jesus, it's not rocket science. Seriously, sitting 8 hours in a parking lot is a great time to add a charge to the batteries.
 
2014-01-03 09:48:27 AM  
HeartBurnKid:

I've never seen a Prius done up like this:

A few years ago, during Bush's last term, someone had an Insight (if I remember correctly) in our parking garage (work) and they decided to put an "M - The Moron" sticker on their back window.  That lasted about two weeks before someone broke the window.
 
2014-01-03 09:49:58 AM  
I bought a Ford Escape Hybrid.  Not to save the planet, although fuel emission was a consideration, along with the savings in fuel costs.  The Volvo Division did some of the engineering, and it's still a great car.  I believe that Ford discontinued the hybrid line in favor of other fuel-efficient systems, but they keep moving in the right direction.

I suspect that the "Hybrid" logo pisses off some people, by the way they hammer the accelerator when they pass me.  I be rolling, and they be hatin'?

/not a douche
 
2014-01-03 09:50:13 AM  
They're only going to announce it on Firday, which is only officially recognized in Canada, so we're all good.
 
2014-01-03 09:53:39 AM  

Mikey1969: sitting 8 hours in a parking lot is a great time to add a charge to the batteries.


Fair enough but the original post was abolut how carrying the weight probably didn`t cover the energy gained,

You could get about 300W from the roof of a car, about 2.4k in 8 hours assuming no cloud (most people live where there are clouds)

Most electric cars AFAIK use about 1.2Kw per Km so you would get 2Km of travel every 8 hours of full sun.

That`s fine if the shops/work is 1km from your house on a really sunny day and you stay for 8 hours.

Wouldn`t it be better to cover the garage roof in panels and transfer the power to the car overnight?
 
2014-01-03 09:54:05 AM  

Mikey1969: way south: Diogenes: Damn those self-centered douches, buying cars that make the world better for everyone.

Doubt they will actually do that with this.

Its a hybrid with solar panels too small to charge anything within a reasonable timespan.
Its more of a "look at me, I care about the environment so I bolted alot of unnecessarily heavy crap on my car to advertise how very fuel efficient I'm being!" car.

Get a sensible econo-box or a diesel and you'd be doing more good for the environment.
Getting this nonsense is hipster-useless levels of environmentalism.

Except that having ANY help charging the electric part of the hybrid is just that-help. Less work done by the gasoline engine=better. Jesus, it's not rocket science. Seriously, sitting 8 hours in a parking lot is a great time to add a charge to the batteries.


Don't invoke his name. He would never drive one of these pansy mobiles!
 
2014-01-03 09:55:37 AM  

way south: Get a sensible econo-box or a diesel and you'd be doing more good for the environment.
Getting this nonsense is hipster-useless levels of environmentalism.


Well, you're definitely smug, you think you're superior, and you're definitely obnoxiously holier-than-thou, but I'm not sure you're the target demographic for this car. Perhaps Ford needs to improve its market research.
 
2014-01-03 09:56:13 AM  

SoupJohnB: I suspect that the "Hybrid" logo pisses off some people, by the way they hammer the accelerator when they pass me. I be rolling, and they be hatin'?


It depends, are you going 10-20mph slower than the rest of the traffic even causing trucks to overtake you (as I have seen many times)?

If you are then it is that, not the hybrid sticker.
 
2014-01-03 09:59:42 AM  

HeartBurnKid: I've never seen a Prius done up like this:


I have:

www.riffraffgregg.com
 
2014-01-03 10:01:12 AM  

dittybopper: HeartBurnKid: I've never seen a Prius done up like this:

I have:

[www.riffraffgregg.com image 500x428]


Fair enough.

In my defense, it has a Florida plate, and everybody's a douchebag in Florida.
 
2014-01-03 10:01:19 AM  

UberDave: dittybopper: UberDave: ...as opposed to the completely non-douchey F-150 target demographic.

Now, this is coming from someone who drives a Hyundai Accent that has so many antennas on it it looks like some sort of giant, metallic pleistocene hedgehog, but I find that F-150 drivers, on the whole, tend to be less douchey than, say, Prius or Volt drivers.

Come to Houston.  They don't install turn signals on F150s or Chevy Silverados...apparently.  And I don't think I've ever seen a Prius or Volt purposely block traffic or gun their engine to simply keep people from getting in front of them even though those other drivers/vehicles were not going to have *any* effect on their commute....or break-checking people, or consistently ride people's asses, etc.  And they certainly don't weave a behemoth vehicle in out of traffic at breakneck speed on a regular basis and drive like merging responsibility is something everyone else is supposed to do.  They're not alone for sure and maybe it's just a numbers things plus being in a big city but I could, at this very moment, drive from Clear Lake to downtown Houston at this very moment and see at *least* half of what I describe perpetrated by some dick driving one of those trucks.  And to be fair Luxury SUV and Chevy Suburban drivers are probably worse.


There is exactly one (1) reason to own a Hummer: I buy it, replace the bumpers with 12" sewer pipe filled with concrete and re-bar, then drive around Houston obeying the law other than demonstrating to those idiots what "right of way" means.
 
2014-01-03 10:02:28 AM  
Subby could stave off CTS by simply typing "liberals".


/liberal
 
2014-01-03 10:06:23 AM  

dready zim: SoupJohnB: I suspect that the "Hybrid" logo pisses off some people, by the way they hammer the accelerator when they pass me. I be rolling, and they be hatin'?

It depends, are you going 10-20mph slower than the rest of the traffic even causing trucks to overtake you (as I have seen many times)?

If you are then it is that, not the hybrid sticker.


Nah, not guilty. Those people piss me off, too. I go with the traffic flow, or run about 5mph over the speed limit when traffic is light.  It's probably just people in more of a farkin' hurry than me.
 
2014-01-03 10:06:43 AM  

way south: Diogenes: Damn those self-centered douches, buying cars that make the world better for everyone.

Doubt they will actually do that with this.

Its a hybrid with solar panels too small to charge anything within a reasonable timespan.
Its more of a "look at me, I care about the environment so I bolted alot of unnecessarily heavy crap on my car to advertise how very fuel efficient I'm being!" car.

Get a sensible econo-box or a diesel and you'd be doing more good for the environment.
Getting this nonsense is hipster-useless levels of environmentalism.



Not really.  My best friend would in no way fit that definition (lives on acreage, owns a couple of firearms classified as assault rifles (among other guns), has a big truck, hunting lease, etc.).  He has been trying to reduce his footprint for quite some time.  His dream is to have a total electric conversion Ford Ranger-sized truck.  He was actually set to purchase what he needed for conversion but needed to convince his boss to get a solar charging station that could have dual purpose (he worked for the school district) and it ended up falling through.  According to his research, his truck would use most of its "juice" (about $75%) on the drive to work...I want to say the drive was 30-35 miles.  The solar charging station would replenish it in 4 hours providing the batteries to the station hadn't been drained.  But he could go to grid power in such a situation.  He would keep a similar but cheaper charging station at home....homemade if possible.  It feel through because of the cost of solar panels.

Personally, I would love this.  I need the power and versatility of my Jeep for the things I do but for work commute and running errands, it would be nice to go totally electric if I can charge off the grid.  And in a few years, I will probably at least get something more efficient if the numbers look good.
 
2014-01-03 10:07:37 AM  

HeartBurnKid: dittybopper: HeartBurnKid: I've never seen a Prius done up like this:

I have:

[www.riffraffgregg.com image 500x428]

Fair enough.

In my defense, it has a Florida plate, and everybody's a douchebag in Florida.


I'd be more offended if it weren't true.
 
2014-01-03 10:14:36 AM  

way south: Get a sensible econo-box or a diesel and you'd be doing more good for the environment.
Getting this nonsense is hipster-useless levels of environmentalism.


It's not just the environment, Cletus. We have to at least lessen our dependence on foreign oil at some point.
 
2014-01-03 10:16:04 AM  

UberDave: I don't think I've ever seen a Prius or Volt purposely block traffic or gun their engine to simply keep people from getting in front of them even though those other drivers/vehicles were not going to have *any* effect on their commute.


Never been behind a hyper-miling asshole,  I see.

Now, I'm all about saving money which is why I bought a small commuter econobox car, so I can understand that, but if you aren't going at some approximate version of the flow of traffic, and you don't have your flashers on, then you're actually a danger.

Don't get me wrong:  I'm not saying pick'em up drivers can't be assholes, but I suspect there is a bit of selection bias here in people's attitudes.

Vehicles I've owned, in order:
1972 Triumph Spitfire
1987 Subaru wagon
1986 Nissan Sentra
1982 Yamaha 650 Maxim
1985 Ford Escort
1987 Ford Escort
1996 Geo Prizm
1999 Chevy Malibu
2002 Hyundai Accent
2005 Hyundai Sonata
2010 Hyundai Accent

As you can see, there really isn't a lot of implied doucheyness in my car ownership habits.

BTW, that 2002 Accent was pretty amazing.  It got 39 MPG from an automatic transmission, and with the back seats folded down it had almost as much room as a pick-up truck.  I once carried a full-size clothes dryer in the box in the back of it.  It fit entirely within the car, with no overhang, but I did have to tie down the hatch.
 
2014-01-03 10:16:42 AM  

dready zim: Mikey1969: sitting 8 hours in a parking lot is a great time to add a charge to the batteries.

Fair enough but the original post was abolut how carrying the weight probably didn`t cover the energy gained,

You could get about 300W from the roof of a car, about 2.4k in 8 hours assuming no cloud (most people live where there are clouds)

Most electric cars AFAIK use about 1.2Kw per Km so you would get 2Km of travel every 8 hours of full sun.

That`s fine if the shops/work is 1km from your house on a really sunny day and you stay for 8 hours.

Wouldn`t it be better to cover the garage roof in panels and transfer the power to the car overnight?


I was in Az for Christmas, and saw that they are putting up parking awnings with solar panels on top. Not charging cars, but I couldn't think of a better place, building rooftops still need access for maintenance, whereas a parking awning is just wasted flat space. Of course, they need to cover EVERY parking space in the Az Dersert, if you ask me, but a start is a start.
 
2014-01-03 10:16:44 AM  
www.imcdb.org
 
2014-01-03 10:17:31 AM  

HeartBurnKid: dittybopper: HeartBurnKid: I've never seen a Prius done up like this:

I have:

[www.riffraffgregg.com image 500x428]

Fair enough.

In my defense, it has a Florida plate, and everybody's a douchebag in Florida.


Heh.  I've seen them up in the Albany, NY area.

Doucheyness knows no boundaries.
 
2014-01-03 10:19:07 AM  

waterrockets: There is exactly one (1) reason to own a Hummer: I buy it, replace the bumpers with 12" sewer pipe filled with concrete and re-bar, then drive around Houston obeying the law other than demonstrating to those idiots what "right of way" means.


H1 Hummers are AWESOME, and there are plenty of reasons to own one if you can afford it. Of cpourse, none of those reasons are "Drive on the highway every day to work", but the H1 is actually a great SUV.
 
2014-01-03 10:20:38 AM  
I thought that I would want a car which didn't cost me too much at the pump but then FARK told me that only a douch would want to use free, clean, safe solar. I guess I dodged a bullet there.
 
2014-01-03 10:22:23 AM  
dready zim:

Wouldn`t it be better to cover the garage roof in panels and transfer the power to the car overnight

Yes. Putting solar cells on a car is a gimmick. And I say that as someone who makes solar cells for a living.
 
2014-01-03 10:26:53 AM  

dittybopper: 1972 Triumph Spitfire
1987 Subaru wagon
1986 Nissan Sentra
1982 Yamaha 650 Maxim
1985 Ford Escort
1987 Ford Escort
1996 Geo Prizm
1999 Chevy Malibu
2002 Hyundai Accent
2005 Hyundai Sonata
2010 Hyundai Accent


Is it me, or have you owned a crap ton of cars? Until this year, I have had the same car since 2001. I'm guessing those were all beater used cars? Good for you. Buying a new cars is for morons and assholes.

I have tried and tried, but I can never figure out how a new car is worth the money. They math never works out.
 
2014-01-03 10:29:39 AM  

SoupJohnB: I suspect that the "Hybrid" logo pisses off some people, by the way they hammer the accelerator when they pass me. I be rolling, and they be hatin'?


I don't know about that, but I've learned to instantly hate anybody in a Prius with the power of a billion suns. I have never seen a car that so reliably indicates that the driver will plant themselves in the left lane of the interstate dead-on the speed limit and block it up for a mile behind them for the next 45 minutes because they won't pass anybody and move the fark over.

An Escape Hybrid? Meh...

But a Prius? I will put the pedal to the floor and fly past them as fast as possible first chance I get because fark every last one of those people I hope they crash and die.
 
2014-01-03 10:30:06 AM  

HeartBurnKid: dittybopper: UberDave: ...as opposed to the completely non-douchey F-150 target demographic.

Now, this is coming from someone who drives a Hyundai Accent that has so many antennas on it it looks like some sort of giant, metallic pleistocene hedgehog, but I find that F-150 drivers, on the whole, tend to be less douchey than, say, Prius or Volt drivers.

I've never seen a Prius done up like this:

[wonkette.com image 500x272]

/yes, I know that's not an F150
//but I tend to see pickup trucks of all makes and models with a bunch of shiat like that on there
///and, as proven in Shortpacked, the more bumper stickers you have, the bigger douchebag you are


It's missing the Liberal Hunting Permit.
 
2014-01-03 10:31:00 AM  

way south: Its a hybrid with solar panels too small to charge anything within a reasonable timespan.
Its more of a "look at me, I care about the environment so I bolted alot of unnecessarily heavy crap on my car to advertise how very fuel efficient I'm being!" car.


This car is clearly a concept car.  The real market is electrics and hybrids.

The kinds of PV panels they will put on production electric/hybrid cars weigh next to nothing.  They will be conformal thin-film panels, which are around 0.1mm thick.  They need to be encapsulated, but any car roof gets encapsulated anyway to resist scratching and UV damage.

The tradeoff is a one-time cost for energy.  The panels will just charge the battery, and you'll get a little more range just by parking in sunny spots during the day while you're at work or whatever.

If the panels are cheap enough, there's really no downside here.

And if you think that the person driving this car is the "douche", the problem is with you.  In most areas of life, creating less of a mess while you visit a place is considered polite.
 
2014-01-03 10:33:18 AM  
Subby, you sound butthurt. When a prius comes through the Wendy's drive-thru, do you call the driver a smug douche after you take their order?
 
2014-01-03 10:50:03 AM  

dittybopper: I find that F-150 drivers, on the whole, tend to be less douchey than, say, Prius or Volt drivers.


Based on what?  Because Rush said so?
 
2014-01-03 10:51:42 AM  

skozlaw: don't know about that, but I've learned to instantly hate anybody in a Prius with the power of a billion suns. I have never seen a car that so reliably indicates that the driver will plant themselves in the left lane of the interstate dead-on the speed limit and block it up for a mile behind them for the next 45 minutes because they won't pass anybody and move the fark over.


People are constantly talking about this, and it's accepted as some kind of fundamental truth, but I literally have never seen it, and I live in the hybrid capital of the world.  When I'm stuck behind someone going way under the speed limit, it's almost always a codger in a mid 80s Chrysler.
 
2014-01-03 10:52:11 AM  
People who drive economic cars are "smug douches"
People who drive Porsches or other nice cars have "small penises"

I think maybe people who drive shiatty cars just have inferiority issues.
 
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