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(Deadspin)   Despite blowing high profile call after high profile call all season long, somehow Jeff Triplette is working the NFL playoffs. Have fun, Chargers and Bengals   (deadspin.com) divider line 78
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2014-01-02 04:49:01 PM
And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....
 
2014-01-02 04:53:48 PM

Donnchadha: And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....


Is he missing an arm or something?
 
2014-01-02 04:56:26 PM

exick: Donnchadha: And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....

Is he missing an arm or something?


See... Bengals fans are so dumb that they can't even spell "incompetent"
 
2014-01-02 05:04:52 PM
I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.
 
2014-01-02 05:18:21 PM

exick: Donnchadha: And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....

Is he missing an arm or something?


Maybe he had his gallbladder removed, or something.
 
2014-01-02 05:19:58 PM
Is everyone else that bad? I can't believe that...
 
2014-01-02 05:20:32 PM

Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.


He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.
 
2014-01-02 05:27:15 PM

netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.


To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.
 
2014-01-02 05:29:21 PM
 
2014-01-02 05:35:58 PM
I'm having a hard time seeing what was wrong with the Bengals-Colts call.  I thought the running back's knee hitting the ground was instantaneous with the ball hitting the goal line.  Or am I missing something?

//Wears thick glasses
 
2014-01-02 05:36:31 PM
Well, I'm off to the patent office to get "Cincinnati Screwjob" copyrighted! >.>
 
2014-01-02 05:37:17 PM

Shame Us: netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.

To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.


It'd be fun to look over the data and methodology used by the NFL. Granted, I cannot see any rationale reason the NFL would choose to release that information.
 
2014-01-02 05:39:20 PM
In fairness, if you were limited to refs that hadn't been trainwrecks this season, you wouldn't be able to have any playoff games.
 
2014-01-02 05:43:07 PM

netweavr: Shame Us: netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.

To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.

It'd be fun to look over the data and methodology used by the NFL. Granted, I cannot see any rationale reason the NFL would choose to release that information.


Football Outsiders keeps their own refs stats. As do a few other places. I'm sure you could cobble together a reasonable approximation from that data.
 
2014-01-02 05:47:53 PM

piledhigheranddeeper: I'm having a hard time seeing what was wrong with the Bengals-Colts call.  I thought the running back's knee hitting the ground was instantaneous with the ball hitting the goal line.  Or am I missing something?

//Wears thick glasses


You are missing the fact that the ball was a half-yard short of the goal line when BJGE was down by contact. Triplette's explanation was that no one touched BJGE after he hit the ground, so he was still a live runner when he scooted into the endzone. He over-turned a correct no TD call on the field because he never looked at the part of the play where BJGE went down due to contact in the backfield. His statement after the game was that he never even looked at that aspect of the play.

I'd actually find it less troublesome if he had just been blind as a f*cking bat and said the ball was over the line rather than a situation where he completely failed to know how to do his job.
 
2014-01-02 05:49:36 PM
Ref-haters are so so dramatic and flamboyant; it just makes me want to set myself on fire.

// Guns Hochuli and Wrong-Way Carey are the best refs of all time
// OF
// ALL
// TIME
 
2014-01-02 05:52:17 PM

Lost Thought 00: Football Outsiders


Thanks I was looking for something...

netweavr: Shame Us: netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.

To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.

It'd be fun to look over the data and methodology used by the NFL. Granted, I cannot see any rationale reason the NFL would choose to release that information.


yeah but didn't he have 2 big blown calls in back to back weeks this year?
 
2014-01-02 05:53:25 PM

Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.


That tells you all you need to know about everyone else.

/reffin' ain't easy
//I do love the thought process some seem to have that they're all terrible and should all be replaced with...who exactly? All referees make mistakes, these guys are the best of them, it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle
///prepared for massive referee playoff and super bowl butthurt
 
2014-01-02 05:56:58 PM
Somehow, I'm ok with this.

/Almost makes up for the Hochuli game.
//Almost
 
2014-01-02 06:08:30 PM
Triplette is a good company man. That's why. Does what he's told.
 
2014-01-02 06:08:32 PM

js34603: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

That tells you all you need to know about everyone else.

/reffin' ain't easy
//I do love the thought process some seem to have that they're all terrible and should all be replaced with...who exactly? All referees make mistakes, these guys are the best of them, it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle
///prepared for massive referee playoff and super bowl butthurt


I know it is a very tough job that gets little if any "Good job!" kinds of things but one of the reasons you cannot name who should replace him is because they are doing their jobs, the less you know about or see the refs the better.
 
2014-01-02 06:11:15 PM
You're missing the fact that Josh Chapman, the Colts DT who broke through the line clearly trips him up in the backfield, causing the running back to fall short of the goal line, and then bounce forward into the end zone.
 
2014-01-02 06:14:16 PM

js34603: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

That tells you all you need to know about everyone else.

/reffin' ain't easy
//I do love the thought process some seem to have that they're all terrible and should all be replaced with...who exactly? All referees make mistakes, these guys are the best of them, it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle
///prepared for massive referee playoff and super bowl butthurt


1) They replace refs in every off season.
2) No one is disputing that refs will make mistakes. It comes with the territory and is to be expected.
3) Fans of every team in the league complain about "getting screwed" by refs. Last week it was STL, KC & (indirectly) PIT. FWIW, all 3 had legitimate gripes and in KC's situation a (inconsequential) win was taken from them, having a direct effect on the AFC playoff picture.
4) I'm a SEA fan.
 
2014-01-02 06:18:06 PM

js34603: it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle


Hey, the replacements helped us out with both a 4th timeout AND that Touchception. Regular refs NEVER gave us any of those types of calls, and yes, they DID screw us with calls of that nature favoring opponents.
 
2014-01-02 06:19:23 PM

Shame Us: FWIW, all 3 had legitimate gripes and in KC's situation a (inconsequential) win was taken from them, having a direct effect on the AFC playoff picture.


But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.
 
2014-01-02 06:30:25 PM
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2014-01-02 06:52:15 PM
Some FARKER predicted exactly this. Don't remember who it was...
 
2014-01-02 07:16:10 PM
Sigh, Are they going to give the superb owl to Blakeman?
 
2014-01-02 07:17:58 PM
If I had my way this joker would not only nit be working the playoffs he would not be working for the NFL.
 
2014-01-02 07:56:00 PM

HideAndGoFarkYourself: You're missing the fact that Josh Chapman, the Colts DT who broke through the line clearly trips him up in the backfield, causing the running back to fall short of the goal line, and then bounce forward into the end zone.


It appears that he lands on the goal line, then bounces further in the end zone.  But whatever, this argument shall travel through the ages till time travelers can be set back to settle a bar bet.

I find it more entertaining to no longer care who wins, just cheer for the zebras.  They always win.

Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.
 
2014-01-02 08:44:26 PM
lack of warmth:
It appears that he lands on the goal line, then bounces further in the end zone.

No and it wasn't really that close.
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2014-01-02 08:45:12 PM

lack of warmth: HideAndGoFarkYourself: You're missing the fact that Josh Chapman, the Colts DT who broke through the line clearly trips him up in the backfield, causing the running back to fall short of the goal line, and then bounce forward into the end zone.

It appears that he lands on the goal line, then bounces further in the end zone.  But whatever, this argument shall travel through the ages till time travelers can be set back to settle a bar bet.

I find it more entertaining to no longer care who wins, just cheer for the zebras.  They always win.

Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.


Pause it at 1:02. He's not down and not even close to the end zone.
 
2014-01-02 08:47:06 PM
This is nothing, the MLB puts CB farging Bucknor in the Playoffs.
 
2014-01-02 08:47:11 PM
This guy is terrible and should not be reffing on the nfl level. That said, my perspective on refs completely changed after I tried it in hockey. It is farking HARD, way harder than I thought. Granted, I was the only official on the ice in a college club game but still, you can't see eveything at all times.

For that reason, I cut them some slack. But this guy tab out long ago.

/I used to be a "the refs are screwing us!" guy
//not anymore, they have more to focus on than throwing a game
///then again, benefit of the doubt, the nba on the other hand
 
2014-01-02 08:53:19 PM

Shame Us: piledhigheranddeeper: I'm having a hard time seeing what was wrong with the Bengals-Colts call.  I thought the running back's knee hitting the ground was instantaneous with the ball hitting the goal line.  Or am I missing something?

//Wears thick glasses

You are missing the fact that the ball was a half-yard short of the goal line when BJGE was down by contact. Triplette's explanation was that no one touched BJGE after he hit the ground, so he was still a live runner when he scooted into the endzone. He over-turned a correct no TD call on the field because he never looked at the part of the play where BJGE went down due to contact in the backfield. His statement after the game was that he never even looked at that aspect of the play.

I'd actually find it less troublesome if he had just been blind as a f*cking bat and said the ball was over the line rather than a situation where he completely failed to know how to do his job.


So this is the ref I was screaming obscenities at the TV when he made that godawful call.

Glad I know his name now.
 
2014-01-02 09:00:35 PM
NotGreenBayNotGreenBayNotGreenBayNotGr eenBayNotGreenBayNotGreenBayNotG reenBayNotGreenBay

*checks tfa*
*sigh of relief*
*follows link in tfa* "Green Bay: Hochuli."

D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D' OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
 
2014-01-02 09:05:36 PM
In b4 Koman Coulibaly.
 
2014-01-02 09:10:55 PM

pregerstheHobo: This guy is terrible and should not be reffing on the nfl level. That said, my perspective on refs completely changed after I tried it in hockey. It is farking HARD, way harder than I thought. Granted, I was the only official on the ice in a college club game but still, you can't see eveything at all times.

For that reason, I cut them some slack. But this guy tab out long ago.

/I used to be a "the refs are screwing us!" guy
//not anymore, they have more to focus on than throwing a game
///then again, benefit of the doubt, the nba on the other hand


See, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt now on regular plays...but when you have replay and still screw it up? Then it's either a) you're incompetent and shouldn't be employed or b) you're doing exactly what the league wants you to do. And since they don't get fired, there's only one option left.
 
2014-01-02 09:12:53 PM

lack of warmth: Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.


I'm pretty sure the Lions do far more damage to themselves than the Zebras ever could.
 
2014-01-02 09:22:05 PM

Joe_diGriz: lack of warmth: Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.

I'm pretty sure the Lions do far more damage to themselves than the Zebras ever could.


Is that your mane argument?
 
2014-01-02 09:36:03 PM

IAmRight: pregerstheHobo: This guy is terrible and should not be reffing on the nfl level. That said, my perspective on refs completely changed after I tried it in hockey. It is farking HARD, way harder than I thought. Granted, I was the only official on the ice in a college club game but still, you can't see eveything at all times.

For that reason, I cut them some slack. But this guy tab out long ago.

/I used to be a "the refs are screwing us!" guy
//not anymore, they have more to focus on than throwing a game
///then again, benefit of the doubt, the nba on the other hand

See, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt now on regular plays...but when you have replay and still screw it up? Then it's either a) you're incompetent and shouldn't be employed or b) you're doing exactly what the league wants you to do. And since they don't get fired, there's only one option left.


Exactly. This guy should not be employed as a referee anymore. I can't imagine what it must be like having a team to help you do your ref job.
 
2014-01-02 10:01:35 PM

jaylectricity: Joe_diGriz: lack of warmth: Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.

I'm pretty sure the Lions do far more damage to themselves than the Zebras ever could.

Is that your mane argument?


Nay. They just hoof it halfheartedly. As for the refs, are we to stripe them of their duties?
 
2014-01-02 10:03:45 PM

IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.


Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.
 
2014-01-02 10:05:03 PM
Shame Us:


3) Fans of every team in the league complain about "getting screwed" by refs. Last week it was STL, KC & (indirectly) PIT. FWIW, all 3 had legitimate gripes and in KC's situation a (inconsequential) win was taken from them, having a direct effect on the AFC playoff picture.

I'm from StL and didn't see it as getting screwed. The Rams had it coming due to their behavior. The problem was the jawing and attitude (on both sides) started early, and Triplett et. al. didn't do anything about it. And then it escalated quickly. All the shenanigans in the 2nd half could have been prevented by decent officiating in the 1st half.

I coach HS football, and have rarely seen a crew (even at my level) that completely lost control of the game like those guys did Sunday.
 
2014-01-02 10:22:31 PM
Oh Jeebus Chryst...As a Chargers fan, I fully realize we used up all of our "benefit from a bad call" credit in the last game.  Now I fully expect a shiat-storm of incompetence from the officials on Sunday, probably all of which will benefit the Bengals.

It's hard being a Chargers fan sometimes.

/Still remember Hochuli-gate
//Nevar Forget
 
2014-01-02 10:47:30 PM

SubBass49: Oh Jeebus Chryst...As a Chargers fan, I fully realize we used up all of our "benefit from a bad call" credit in the last game.  Now I fully expect a shiat-storm of incompetence from the officials on Sunday, probably all of which will benefit the Bengals.

It's hard being a Chargers fan sometimes.

/Still remember Hochuli-gate
//Nevar Forget


Nah, the Chargers were screwed by the refs against the Texans, so now the balance has been restored. Think positive.
 
2014-01-02 10:49:01 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.


Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?
 
2014-01-02 10:54:05 PM

jaylectricity: Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.

Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?


Pittsburgh hardly ever plays in meaningful games? If that's what you think I'd like to see your idea of a team that does.
 
2014-01-02 10:55:37 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: jaylectricity: Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.

Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?

Pittsburgh hardly ever plays in meaningful games? If that's what you think I'd like to see your idea of a team that does.


The Ravens lately. The Patriots since the beginning of the century.
 
2014-01-02 10:57:36 PM

jaylectricity: Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.

Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?


Are you too dumb to not read the NFL threads when the Seahawks are losing or lost a game?  If they're down in a game or losing, it's always two things: 1) The refs, 2) 10:00am start times.

The Cardinals exposed them, GB/SF/NO will learn from that.  Not saying the Trollhawks will lose, they're a good team, but just watch the excuses fly if they do lose.
 
2014-01-02 11:11:00 PM
Having watched the Seahawks flail about for many a long year.. it's a rather strange sensation having so many people actively hating them. There have been decades where they were lucky to get noticed.
 
2014-01-02 11:25:34 PM
Ed Hoculii seems to be a good ref but he has a "look" with the tight shirt and guns that no other ref has.  Not that he is a bad ref by any means, but he has rock star type marketing on his side.  I always like to watch games by Mike Carey's team which seems very underrated when you think about how much attention EdHoc gets.  Carey's crew doesnt seem to make any mistakes and he has as good or better TV presence as Ed. The one black guy with the really thick southern accent seems to decent on the field as well but his TV presence is horrible.
 
2014-01-02 11:48:33 PM

harleyquinnical: jaylectricity: Joe_diGriz: lack of warmth: Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.

I'm pretty sure the Lions do far more damage to themselves than the Zebras ever could.

Is that your mane argument?

Nay. They just hoof it halfheartedly. As for the refs, are we to stripe them of their duties?


No, but people keep braying over decisions which aren't always so black-and-white.

/Yes, I know, I'm horrid at this.
 
2014-01-02 11:50:33 PM

IAmRight: Shame Us: FWIW, all 3 had legitimate gripes and in KC's situation a (inconsequential) win was taken from them, having a direct effect on the AFC playoff picture.

But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.


As a Steelers fan, we got what we deserved. The call sucked, but that wasn't why the Steelers didn't make it into the playoffs. As I said to Seattle fans during their Superb Owl loss to Pittsburgh, better teams overcome bad calls and better teams don't let other influence the outcome.

No tears here or from all of the Steelers fans I know.

So sorry to disappoint you.
 
2014-01-03 12:02:21 AM
What ref is working my team's game?


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Guns Hochuli, that's who.
 
2014-01-03 12:35:40 AM

vento: As I said to Seattle fans during their Superb Owl loss to Pittsburgh, better teams overcome bad calls and better teams don't let other influence the outcome.


And it's still the stupidest argument ever. I'm going to sell you a boxing match, but before the match, I'm going to tie one boxer's arm behind his back. I mean hey, if the guy's so great, he should still be able to knock the other guy out.

/yeah, he COULD but the objection is that it's not a fair fight. All we want to see is a fair fight. Second-best is when the guy who's fighting all the handicapped boxers, then gloating about it gets HIS hand tied behind his back and knocked out.
 
2014-01-03 01:17:26 AM

IAmRight: vento: As I said to Seattle fans during their Superb Owl loss to Pittsburgh, better teams overcome bad calls and better teams don't let other influence the outcome.

And it's still the stupidest argument ever. I'm going to sell you a boxing match, but before the match, I'm going to tie one boxer's arm behind his back. I mean hey, if the guy's so great, he should still be able to knock the other guy out.

/yeah, he COULD but the objection is that it's not a fair fight. All we want to see is a fair fight. Second-best is when the guy who's fighting all the handicapped boxers, then gloating about it gets HIS hand tied behind his back and knocked out.


It's not "the stupidest argument ever". I don't think he's saying blown calls are irrelevant, but they're just another factor of the game. If a bad call was the only farkup and/or was completely over-the-top boneheaded, then you can say it determined the game. But fans who tend to blame lost games on bad calls also tend to overlook their own team's farkups, as if the rest of the team did nothing to seal its own fate. You never hear the following from those fans...

"If the QB hadn't thrown that pick-six in the first quarter, we would have won the game."
"If that cornerback hadn't been called for PI at the one yard line, we would have won the game."
"If our team hadn't been penalized 11 times for 165 yards, we would have won the game."

But of course it's never those things, it's always the ref's (or kicker's) fault.
 
2014-01-03 01:25:33 AM

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: But fans who tend to blame lost games on bad calls also tend to overlook their own team's farkups, as if the rest of the team did nothing to seal its own fate. You never hear the following from those fans...


In a game where both teams played awful, when a ref crew swings it based on several calls, yeah, you can be pissed about it.

Yeah, we did plenty wrong. But the other team played far, far worse.
 
2014-01-03 02:18:55 AM
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2014-01-03 06:57:08 AM

DaintySavage: [i.imgur.com image 640x960]


That is not nice... First time since 1999 that neither the Steelers nor the Ravens made the playoffs. It's not right!
 
2014-01-03 08:11:45 AM

geoduck42: Having watched the Seahawks flail about for many a long year.. it's a rather strange sensation having so many people actively hating them. There have been decades where they were lucky to get noticed.


This.

 Must be the success. Some people seem to hate that.
 
2014-01-03 08:16:03 AM

cuzsis: geoduck42: Having watched the Seahawks flail about for many a long year.. it's a rather strange sensation having so many people actively hating them. There have been decades where they were lucky to get noticed.

This.

 Must be the success. Some people seem to hate that.


Not me. I've hated the Seahawks ever since they joined the NFC West, and became a foe of my Rams. Hell, I still hate Atlanta, just because they used to be in the NFC West!

It's going to be fun watching the Fail-Niners and Seachickens lose in the playoffs! Go [Insert teams playing SEA or SF]!
 
2014-01-03 08:22:02 AM

Flying Lasagna Monster: What ref is working my team's game?




Guns Hochuli, that's who.


i237.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-03 10:09:25 AM

cuzsis: geoduck42: Having watched the Seahawks flail about for many a long year.. it's a rather strange sensation having so many people actively hating them. There have been decades where they were lucky to get noticed.

This.

 Must be the success. Some people seem to hate that.



Or...

It could be that Seahawk fans are the whinest fan base of them all.  They flip out every time a call goes against them (it's a conspiracy!!), they claim  the NFL deliberately schedules against them, and let's not even bring up that time they got lucky and made it to the Super Bowl and it wasn't handed to them on a silver platter.  And, of course,  you're the worst kind of hater if you happen to mention how many Seahawk players have been suspended for PED/drug use during the last few years.

In other words, the whiny, attacking fans of a cheating team cause other fans not to like their team.  Guys, bad calls go against all teams, move the team to Okalahoma City if you want a better schedule, stop obsessing about the past, and accept the fact that Seahawk players use more "Adderall" than anyone else.

Have fun!!
 
2014-01-03 12:44:57 PM
It turned into the profootballtalk comment section in here.
 
2014-01-03 01:56:56 PM
Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?
 
2014-01-03 02:05:25 PM
Triplette must have dirt on someone. How the hell could this happen? He was atrocious this year.
 
2014-01-03 02:10:29 PM

Elian Mindprobe: Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?


I don't remember that but I'm pretty sure the guy's career ended the moment he signed with the Browns.
 
2014-01-03 02:13:49 PM

Elian Mindprobe: Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?


Yes.
 
2014-01-03 03:41:39 PM

Shame Us: Elian Mindprobe: Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?

Yes.


The eye incident happened in 1999, and Orlando Brown played for the Ravens from 2003-2006, so no.
 
2014-01-03 03:43:40 PM

The Singing Bush: Shame Us: Elian Mindprobe: Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?

Yes.

The eye incident happened in 1999, and Orlando Brown played for the Ravens from 2003-20062005, so no.


FTFM
 
2014-01-03 04:30:26 PM

The Singing Bush: The Singing Bush: Shame Us: Elian Mindprobe: Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?

Yes.

The eye incident happened in 1999, and Orlando Brown played for the Ravens from 2003-20062005, so no.

FTFM


Triplette's flag still busted his eye all up and kept him out of the league for years.
 
2014-01-03 04:56:09 PM

Shame Us: The Singing Bush: The Singing Bush: Shame Us: Elian Mindprobe: Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?

Yes.

The eye incident happened in 1999, and Orlando Brown played for the Ravens from 2003-20062005, so no.

FTFM

Triplette's flag still busted his eye all up and kept him out of the league for years.


But you said it ended his career, and that didn't happen. It was bad, but there's no reason to make things up to make it seem worse.
 
2014-01-03 05:09:20 PM

Joe_diGriz: No, but people keep braying over decisions which aren't always so black-and-white.

/Yes, I know, I'm horrid at this.


Trotting out jokes like that?  You're  better than you think.

Baelz: Triplette must have dirt on someone. How the hell could this happen? He was atrocious this year.


He did an okay job during the Hawks/Rams game.  It wasn't perfect as an ejection should have happened in the first half rather than the second and to someone actually causing problems rather than the guy accidentally gesturing his hands that stuck a hat from an officials head (I understand there is zero tolerance for striking a ref like that, but still).  The reason for those personal fouls against the Rams: they were baiting the Hawks and the Hawks didn't bite.
 
2014-01-03 05:39:10 PM

The Singing Bush: Shame Us: The Singing Bush: The Singing Bush: Shame Us: Elian Mindprobe: Isn't this the same guy who threw the flag into a Cleveland Browns player's eyeball a few years ago and ended his career?

Yes.

The eye incident happened in 1999, and Orlando Brown played for the Ravens from 2003-20062005, so no.

FTFM

Triplette's flag still busted his eye all up and kept him out of the league for years.

But you said it ended his career, and that didn't happen. It was bad, but there's no reason to make things up to make it seem worse.


I actually just said "yes".
 
2014-01-03 05:46:48 PM

harleyquinnical: The reason for those personal fouls against the Rams: they were baiting the Hawks and the Hawks didn't bite.


I liked how the announcers cried hard because the Rams' player had his helmet popped off by Lynch and Lynch kept stiff-arming him. They were so damn outraged...what's Lynch supposed to do, just let the guy tackle him then? You want to keep playing with your helmet off, you get everything that comes to you, including stiff-arms to your face. Buckle your damn chin strap up next time if you don't like it.
 
2014-01-03 05:55:31 PM

harleyquinnical: He did an okay job during the Hawks/Rams game. It wasn't perfect as an ejection should have happened in the first half rather than the second and to someone actually causing problems rather than the guy accidentally gesturing his hands that stuck a hat from an officials head (I understand there is zero tolerance for striking a ref like that, but still). The reason for those personal fouls against the Rams: they were baiting the Hawks and the Hawks didn't bite.


There has been some talk that the ejection was not actually for the knocking the hat off but for shoving an official's arm down after that. IDK if any of that stuff is/has been made public, but I've seen it floated as a possibility.
 
2014-01-03 06:07:35 PM
Also, he got the Chargers-Bengals game because it's not like anyone's going to be making an effort to watch that game anyway.

Shame Us: There has been some talk that the ejection was not actually for the knocking the hat off but for shoving an official's arm down after that. IDK if any of that stuff is/has been made public, but I've seen it floated as a possibility.


Honestly if you're out there going into the referee huddles and using your hands to simulate yapping at the refs, you should GTFO anyway. I hate continually having to play the Rams at the end of the season, especially when the main goal is making sure everyone stays healthy. Cortland Finnegan is probably one of their cleanest players. Did enjoy watching Tate beat 'em down all day though, no matter how often they tried to light him up or knock him out.
 
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