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(Deadspin)   Despite blowing high profile call after high profile call all season long, somehow Jeff Triplette is working the NFL playoffs. Have fun, Chargers and Bengals   (deadspin.com) divider line 78
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2014-01-02 04:49:01 PM
And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....
 
2014-01-02 04:53:48 PM

Donnchadha: And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....


Is he missing an arm or something?
 
2014-01-02 04:56:26 PM

exick: Donnchadha: And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....

Is he missing an arm or something?


See... Bengals fans are so dumb that they can't even spell "incompetent"
 
2014-01-02 05:04:52 PM
I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.
 
2014-01-02 05:18:21 PM

exick: Donnchadha: And when the Bengals lose this game, it'll be because Jeff Triplette is an incomplete ref, and not because the Bengals lost the game....

Is he missing an arm or something?


Maybe he had his gallbladder removed, or something.
 
2014-01-02 05:19:58 PM
Is everyone else that bad? I can't believe that...
 
2014-01-02 05:20:32 PM

Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.


He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.
 
2014-01-02 05:27:15 PM

netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.


To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.
 
2014-01-02 05:29:21 PM
 
2014-01-02 05:35:58 PM
I'm having a hard time seeing what was wrong with the Bengals-Colts call.  I thought the running back's knee hitting the ground was instantaneous with the ball hitting the goal line.  Or am I missing something?

//Wears thick glasses
 
2014-01-02 05:36:31 PM
Well, I'm off to the patent office to get "Cincinnati Screwjob" copyrighted! >.>
 
2014-01-02 05:37:17 PM

Shame Us: netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.

To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.


It'd be fun to look over the data and methodology used by the NFL. Granted, I cannot see any rationale reason the NFL would choose to release that information.
 
2014-01-02 05:39:20 PM
In fairness, if you were limited to refs that hadn't been trainwrecks this season, you wouldn't be able to have any playoff games.
 
2014-01-02 05:43:07 PM

netweavr: Shame Us: netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.

To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.

It'd be fun to look over the data and methodology used by the NFL. Granted, I cannot see any rationale reason the NFL would choose to release that information.


Football Outsiders keeps their own refs stats. As do a few other places. I'm sure you could cobble together a reasonable approximation from that data.
 
2014-01-02 05:47:53 PM

piledhigheranddeeper: I'm having a hard time seeing what was wrong with the Bengals-Colts call.  I thought the running back's knee hitting the ground was instantaneous with the ball hitting the goal line.  Or am I missing something?

//Wears thick glasses


You are missing the fact that the ball was a half-yard short of the goal line when BJGE was down by contact. Triplette's explanation was that no one touched BJGE after he hit the ground, so he was still a live runner when he scooted into the endzone. He over-turned a correct no TD call on the field because he never looked at the part of the play where BJGE went down due to contact in the backfield. His statement after the game was that he never even looked at that aspect of the play.

I'd actually find it less troublesome if he had just been blind as a f*cking bat and said the ball was over the line rather than a situation where he completely failed to know how to do his job.
 
2014-01-02 05:49:36 PM
Ref-haters are so so dramatic and flamboyant; it just makes me want to set myself on fire.

// Guns Hochuli and Wrong-Way Carey are the best refs of all time
// OF
// ALL
// TIME
 
2014-01-02 05:52:17 PM

Lost Thought 00: Football Outsiders


Thanks I was looking for something...

netweavr: Shame Us: netweavr: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

He's possibly not that bad, just high-profile.

Kinda like having a coworker who only makes one mistake a year, but when she does it's something like hitting "reply all" on a company-wide email.

To be fair, not all blown calls are equal. I'm not sure of the rating process the NFL uses, but if they're treating every blown call simply as a tally mark with no regard for severity or consequences of the individual call, that's a problem. Screwing up what down it is, ejecting a player for a minor offense from a game that got out of hand because your own crew let it happen, and simply f*cking up a reviewed non-TD every way possible are egregious errors that should be judged more harshly than missing/calling a ticky-tack holding call on a 3 yard run on 2nd and 10 at the 42 yardline.

If those three plays only count as 3 downgrades the same as missing a run of the mill holding/neutral zone infraction/PI, the system needs to be fixed.

It'd be fun to look over the data and methodology used by the NFL. Granted, I cannot see any rationale reason the NFL would choose to release that information.


yeah but didn't he have 2 big blown calls in back to back weeks this year?
 
2014-01-02 05:53:25 PM

Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.


That tells you all you need to know about everyone else.

/reffin' ain't easy
//I do love the thought process some seem to have that they're all terrible and should all be replaced with...who exactly? All referees make mistakes, these guys are the best of them, it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle
///prepared for massive referee playoff and super bowl butthurt
 
2014-01-02 05:56:58 PM
Somehow, I'm ok with this.

/Almost makes up for the Hochuli game.
//Almost
 
2014-01-02 06:08:30 PM
Triplette is a good company man. That's why. Does what he's told.
 
2014-01-02 06:08:32 PM

js34603: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

That tells you all you need to know about everyone else.

/reffin' ain't easy
//I do love the thought process some seem to have that they're all terrible and should all be replaced with...who exactly? All referees make mistakes, these guys are the best of them, it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle
///prepared for massive referee playoff and super bowl butthurt


I know it is a very tough job that gets little if any "Good job!" kinds of things but one of the reasons you cannot name who should replace him is because they are doing their jobs, the less you know about or see the refs the better.
 
2014-01-02 06:11:15 PM
You're missing the fact that Josh Chapman, the Colts DT who broke through the line clearly trips him up in the backfield, causing the running back to fall short of the goal line, and then bounce forward into the end zone.
 
2014-01-02 06:14:16 PM

js34603: Piizzadude: I just do not get it. I thought they rated these guys, and Triplette has to have more than one black mark against him.

That tells you all you need to know about everyone else.

/reffin' ain't easy
//I do love the thought process some seem to have that they're all terrible and should all be replaced with...who exactly? All referees make mistakes, these guys are the best of them, it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle
///prepared for massive referee playoff and super bowl butthurt


1) They replace refs in every off season.
2) No one is disputing that refs will make mistakes. It comes with the territory and is to be expected.
3) Fans of every team in the league complain about "getting screwed" by refs. Last week it was STL, KC & (indirectly) PIT. FWIW, all 3 had legitimate gripes and in KC's situation a (inconsequential) win was taken from them, having a direct effect on the AFC playoff picture.
4) I'm a SEA fan.
 
2014-01-02 06:18:06 PM

js34603: it's not like there's a vast untapped resource of perfect referees to replace these guys with and they're using these guys to screw your team *cough* Seattle


Hey, the replacements helped us out with both a 4th timeout AND that Touchception. Regular refs NEVER gave us any of those types of calls, and yes, they DID screw us with calls of that nature favoring opponents.
 
2014-01-02 06:19:23 PM

Shame Us: FWIW, all 3 had legitimate gripes and in KC's situation a (inconsequential) win was taken from them, having a direct effect on the AFC playoff picture.


But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.
 
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2014-01-02 06:52:15 PM
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2014-01-02 07:16:10 PM
Sigh, Are they going to give the superb owl to Blakeman?
 
2014-01-02 07:17:58 PM
If I had my way this joker would not only nit be working the playoffs he would not be working for the NFL.
 
2014-01-02 07:56:00 PM

HideAndGoFarkYourself: You're missing the fact that Josh Chapman, the Colts DT who broke through the line clearly trips him up in the backfield, causing the running back to fall short of the goal line, and then bounce forward into the end zone.


It appears that he lands on the goal line, then bounces further in the end zone.  But whatever, this argument shall travel through the ages till time travelers can be set back to settle a bar bet.

I find it more entertaining to no longer care who wins, just cheer for the zebras.  They always win.

Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.
 
2014-01-02 08:44:26 PM
lack of warmth:
It appears that he lands on the goal line, then bounces further in the end zone.

No and it wasn't really that close.
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2014-01-02 08:45:12 PM

lack of warmth: HideAndGoFarkYourself: You're missing the fact that Josh Chapman, the Colts DT who broke through the line clearly trips him up in the backfield, causing the running back to fall short of the goal line, and then bounce forward into the end zone.

It appears that he lands on the goal line, then bounces further in the end zone.  But whatever, this argument shall travel through the ages till time travelers can be set back to settle a bar bet.

I find it more entertaining to no longer care who wins, just cheer for the zebras.  They always win.

Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.


Pause it at 1:02. He's not down and not even close to the end zone.
 
2014-01-02 08:47:06 PM
This is nothing, the MLB puts CB farging Bucknor in the Playoffs.
 
2014-01-02 08:47:11 PM
This guy is terrible and should not be reffing on the nfl level. That said, my perspective on refs completely changed after I tried it in hockey. It is farking HARD, way harder than I thought. Granted, I was the only official on the ice in a college club game but still, you can't see eveything at all times.

For that reason, I cut them some slack. But this guy tab out long ago.

/I used to be a "the refs are screwing us!" guy
//not anymore, they have more to focus on than throwing a game
///then again, benefit of the doubt, the nba on the other hand
 
2014-01-02 08:53:19 PM

Shame Us: piledhigheranddeeper: I'm having a hard time seeing what was wrong with the Bengals-Colts call.  I thought the running back's knee hitting the ground was instantaneous with the ball hitting the goal line.  Or am I missing something?

//Wears thick glasses

You are missing the fact that the ball was a half-yard short of the goal line when BJGE was down by contact. Triplette's explanation was that no one touched BJGE after he hit the ground, so he was still a live runner when he scooted into the endzone. He over-turned a correct no TD call on the field because he never looked at the part of the play where BJGE went down due to contact in the backfield. His statement after the game was that he never even looked at that aspect of the play.

I'd actually find it less troublesome if he had just been blind as a f*cking bat and said the ball was over the line rather than a situation where he completely failed to know how to do his job.


So this is the ref I was screaming obscenities at the TV when he made that godawful call.

Glad I know his name now.
 
2014-01-02 09:00:35 PM
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*sigh of relief*
*follows link in tfa* "Green Bay: Hochuli."

D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!D' OH!D'OH!D'OH!D'OH!
 
2014-01-02 09:05:36 PM
In b4 Koman Coulibaly.
 
2014-01-02 09:10:55 PM

pregerstheHobo: This guy is terrible and should not be reffing on the nfl level. That said, my perspective on refs completely changed after I tried it in hockey. It is farking HARD, way harder than I thought. Granted, I was the only official on the ice in a college club game but still, you can't see eveything at all times.

For that reason, I cut them some slack. But this guy tab out long ago.

/I used to be a "the refs are screwing us!" guy
//not anymore, they have more to focus on than throwing a game
///then again, benefit of the doubt, the nba on the other hand


See, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt now on regular plays...but when you have replay and still screw it up? Then it's either a) you're incompetent and shouldn't be employed or b) you're doing exactly what the league wants you to do. And since they don't get fired, there's only one option left.
 
2014-01-02 09:12:53 PM

lack of warmth: Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.


I'm pretty sure the Lions do far more damage to themselves than the Zebras ever could.
 
2014-01-02 09:22:05 PM

Joe_diGriz: lack of warmth: Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.

I'm pretty sure the Lions do far more damage to themselves than the Zebras ever could.


Is that your mane argument?
 
2014-01-02 09:36:03 PM

IAmRight: pregerstheHobo: This guy is terrible and should not be reffing on the nfl level. That said, my perspective on refs completely changed after I tried it in hockey. It is farking HARD, way harder than I thought. Granted, I was the only official on the ice in a college club game but still, you can't see eveything at all times.

For that reason, I cut them some slack. But this guy tab out long ago.

/I used to be a "the refs are screwing us!" guy
//not anymore, they have more to focus on than throwing a game
///then again, benefit of the doubt, the nba on the other hand

See, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt now on regular plays...but when you have replay and still screw it up? Then it's either a) you're incompetent and shouldn't be employed or b) you're doing exactly what the league wants you to do. And since they don't get fired, there's only one option left.


Exactly. This guy should not be employed as a referee anymore. I can't imagine what it must be like having a team to help you do your ref job.
 
2014-01-02 10:01:35 PM

jaylectricity: Joe_diGriz: lack of warmth: Zebras do far more damage to Lions every year, but that is okay, this little call should be disputed forever.

I'm pretty sure the Lions do far more damage to themselves than the Zebras ever could.

Is that your mane argument?


Nay. They just hoof it halfheartedly. As for the refs, are we to stripe them of their duties?
 
2014-01-02 10:03:45 PM

IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.


Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.
 
2014-01-02 10:05:03 PM
Shame Us:


3) Fans of every team in the league complain about "getting screwed" by refs. Last week it was STL, KC & (indirectly) PIT. FWIW, all 3 had legitimate gripes and in KC's situation a (inconsequential) win was taken from them, having a direct effect on the AFC playoff picture.

I'm from StL and didn't see it as getting screwed. The Rams had it coming due to their behavior. The problem was the jawing and attitude (on both sides) started early, and Triplett et. al. didn't do anything about it. And then it escalated quickly. All the shenanigans in the 2nd half could have been prevented by decent officiating in the 1st half.

I coach HS football, and have rarely seen a crew (even at my level) that completely lost control of the game like those guys did Sunday.
 
2014-01-02 10:22:31 PM
Oh Jeebus Chryst...As a Chargers fan, I fully realize we used up all of our "benefit from a bad call" credit in the last game.  Now I fully expect a shiat-storm of incompetence from the officials on Sunday, probably all of which will benefit the Bengals.

It's hard being a Chargers fan sometimes.

/Still remember Hochuli-gate
//Nevar Forget
 
2014-01-02 10:47:30 PM

SubBass49: Oh Jeebus Chryst...As a Chargers fan, I fully realize we used up all of our "benefit from a bad call" credit in the last game.  Now I fully expect a shiat-storm of incompetence from the officials on Sunday, probably all of which will benefit the Bengals.

It's hard being a Chargers fan sometimes.

/Still remember Hochuli-gate
//Nevar Forget


Nah, the Chargers were screwed by the refs against the Texans, so now the balance has been restored. Think positive.
 
2014-01-02 10:49:01 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.


Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?
 
2014-01-02 10:54:05 PM

jaylectricity: Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.

Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?


Pittsburgh hardly ever plays in meaningful games? If that's what you think I'd like to see your idea of a team that does.
 
2014-01-02 10:55:37 PM

Adolf Oliver Nipples: jaylectricity: Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.

Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?

Pittsburgh hardly ever plays in meaningful games? If that's what you think I'd like to see your idea of a team that does.


The Ravens lately. The Patriots since the beginning of the century.
 
2014-01-02 10:57:36 PM

jaylectricity: Adolf Oliver Nipples: IAmRight: But making Pittsburgh fans complain about refereeing warmed all our hearts. As well as made us laugh into near unconsciousness.

Since you brought it up (as usual) I'm simply going to say that I will piss myself laughing when Seattle loses and you predictably blame the refs for it. My vintage bottle of Seahawk fan tears is almost empty, it'll be good to get a refill.

Haha, is this what it comes down to? Your team hardly ever plays in meaningful games so you excite yourself with other teams' fans' negative emotions?


Are you too dumb to not read the NFL threads when the Seahawks are losing or lost a game?  If they're down in a game or losing, it's always two things: 1) The refs, 2) 10:00am start times.

The Cardinals exposed them, GB/SF/NO will learn from that.  Not saying the Trollhawks will lose, they're a good team, but just watch the excuses fly if they do lose.
 
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