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(Deadspin)   Chris Kluwe tells the story of how he was an NFL player until he was fired by "two cowards and a bigot"   (deadspin.com) divider line 253
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2014-01-03 12:26:56 AM  
Hell, Mat McBriar keeps getting paid. He was the worst punter in the NFL (net) in 2012, and 2nd worst to Sav Rocca in 2013 (Rocca's got team coverage issues - has lots downed inside the 20 and a good gross average, but teams average 16 yards/return against the 'Skins).

/hey, he was tied for 28th best in 2011, and...1st in 2010. *checks* Well, that was a hell of a cyst he had removed. Took him from consistently one of the league's best punters to consistently one of the worst. But if it were all about performance, he wouldn't keep getting hired.
 
2014-01-03 12:32:50 AM  

Gosling: bluenote13: And why did they keep all those guys instead of Kluwe? $$$. As an 8 year yet he gets 1.2 million versus 500k for the other guys. When there is a cap, every cent counts and unless you have Andy Lee or Shane Lechtler you don't pay punters that kind of money.

They certainly didn't keep those guys over Kluwe because of talent. Kluwe may not be the best punter around, but I'd absolutely want him over Podlesh, Moorman or Powell. A good punter may not need to cost you money, but a bad one's going to cost you games.


The problem as I think you stated but others missed is that any team that signed him would have had to take a $1.2M hit and keep him on the roster all year which would have meant he had to have a hell of a tryout.

Now he had a good shot at coming back next year, at a reduced rate, except now that hes shot his mouth off most teams wouldnt touch him thinking hes going to be a problem in the locker room. Basically hes a moron.
 
2014-01-03 12:42:00 AM  

steamingpile: The problem as I think you stated but others missed is that any team that signed him would have had to take a $1.2M hit and keep him on the roster all year which would have meant he had to have a hell of a tryout.


No, they wouldn't. But keep making things up!
 
2014-01-03 12:43:16 AM  

steamingpile: Gosling: bluenote13: And why did they keep all those guys instead of Kluwe? $$$. As an 8 year yet he gets 1.2 million versus 500k for the other guys. When there is a cap, every cent counts and unless you have Andy Lee or Shane Lechtler you don't pay punters that kind of money.

They certainly didn't keep those guys over Kluwe because of talent. Kluwe may not be the best punter around, but I'd absolutely want him over Podlesh, Moorman or Powell. A good punter may not need to cost you money, but a bad one's going to cost you games.

The problem as I think you stated but others missed is that any team that signed him would have had to take a $1.2M hit and keep him on the roster all year which would have meant he had to have a hell of a tryout.

Now he had a good shot at coming back next year, at a reduced rate, except now that hes shot his mouth off most teams wouldnt touch him thinking hes going to be a problem in the locker room. Basically hes a moron.


or he's not a moron and doesn't really care if he plays again and would rather point out how much of a bigoted asshat that the vikings' special teams coach is.

/he says he realizes his career is most likely done.
 
2014-01-03 12:44:07 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: boyofd: On the other hand, his replacement had almost identical stats, so it seems like a stretch to believe that he was replaced solely for talent/production reasons.

His replacement had identical stats and cost one-third as much.

Would you rather play $9 for a sandwich or $3 for a sandwich if you knew they would taste the same?


Not exactly the same thing, though. In this case, the Vikings had to draft a punter to replace Kluwe - they took one of the best collegiate punters to replace him. The salary was the same, but the pick means they missed out on an opportunity to improve the team elsewhere.

The real issue is that the Vikings were just about over the cap as it was, and entered the season less than a million under after all was said and done. The would certainly have been over it if they were paying Kluwe. Kluwe was a slightly above average punter by most measures, but slightly above average players don't stick around forever when their veteran minimum salary means that teams can get a younger, cheaper and more projectible replacement via the draft.
 
2014-01-03 12:48:14 AM  

A Fark Handle: or he's not a moron and doesn't really care if he plays again and would rather point out how much of a bigoted asshat that the vikings' special teams coach is.

/he says he realizes his career is most likely done.


Except unless he has proof he said all these things it will never come out and look more like Kluwe is a bitter former player, he could have kept his mouth shut until he got others to come out with him or catch him at a moment when he farked up.

And his career wasnt done, he wouldnt be making his old salary sure but he would have been in the 500k-700k range, but now its done thanks to saying shiat that cant be proven.
 
2014-01-03 12:50:48 AM  

IAmRight: Hell, Mat McBriar keeps getting paid. He was the worst punter in the NFL (net) in 2012, and 2nd worst to Sav Rocca in 2013 (Rocca's got team coverage issues - has lots downed inside the 20 and a good gross average, but teams average 16 yards/return against the 'Skins).

/hey, he was tied for 28th best in 2011, and...1st in 2010. *checks* Well, that was a hell of a cyst he had removed. Took him from consistently one of the league's best punters to consistently one of the worst. But if it were all about performance, he wouldn't keep getting hired.


I have to admit that you have swayed me. Looking at everything, Kluwe was not that bad as a punter and the contract wasn't exorbitant. Weird that they would pick a punter in the 5th round and only one of two punters in the 2005 draft, say it was an open competition then release Kluwe like ?two week later?. But didn't they pretty much do the same thing with the K position in the draft with Blair Walsh?
 
2014-01-03 12:56:25 AM  

steamingpile: A Fark Handle: or he's not a moron and doesn't really care if he plays again and would rather point out how much of a bigoted asshat that the vikings' special teams coach is.

/he says he realizes his career is most likely done.

Except unless he has proof he said all these things it will never come out and look more like Kluwe is a bitter former player, he could have kept his mouth shut until he got others to come out with him or catch him at a moment when he farked up.

And his career wasnt done, he wouldnt be making his old salary sure but he would have been in the 500k-700k range, but now its done thanks to saying shiat that cant be proven.


He couldn't get paid in the 500k-700k range. The NFLPA would have thrown a fit. As a 10 year vet his minimum was over 950k.
 
2014-01-03 01:05:25 AM  
Kluwe is a typical politically correct type convinced he is a better person than everyone else. So, he is entitled to whatever he wants. Always.

Anyone that says different is this, that and the other thing. Tell us now how you don't own a TV or drink bottled water. Gosh, we are impressed.
 
2014-01-03 01:08:24 AM  
This is just a preview of how a gay player is expected to be treated in the NFL.

Give him what he wants, always. Always start him, NEVER cut him or trade him. Because that is phobic or something.

Nobody hit him too hard, and don't shiat talk him on the field or anywhere else. That's a lawsuit.
 
2014-01-03 01:11:06 AM  

Neeek: He couldn't get paid in the 500k-700k range. The NFLPA would have thrown a fit. As a 10 year vet his minimum was over 950k.


He hasnt met that yet has he? He didnt come in until 2005 and didnt play last year which means he wouldnt meet 10 years of service until 2016, if Im doing the math right and Im not sure how that works and if he has to be with the team at the start or from the pre-season on. He didnt come to the vikings until after seattle wanted to put him on their practice squad then he didnt pass waivers, weirdly he would have fit in better there.
 
2014-01-03 01:13:15 AM  

Flying Lasagna Monster: [zurevla.nl image 290x394]

...and a shiatty punter.


Suddenly, I'm hungry for a peach.
 
2014-01-03 01:14:04 AM  

barneyfifesbullet: This is just a preview of how a gay player is expected to be treated in the NFL.

Give him what he wants, always. Always start him, NEVER cut him or trade him. Because that is phobic or something.

Nobody hit him too hard, and don't shiat talk him on the field or anywhere else. That's a lawsuit.


8/10... just enough for a bite...

Kluwe called out a coach who wished for the killing of all gay people on the planet.

How do you get whateverthefark your just derped up out of Kluwe wanting someone to be held accountable for hateful and violent rhetoric?
 
2014-01-03 01:21:33 AM  
KEEP ME AROUND AND PAY ME THREE TIMES WHAT A BETTER REPLACEMENT MAKES OR YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GAY HATING BIGOTS!!!!

If he was half as courageous as he purports to be he would have spoke up when he supposedly heard those anti-gay remarks. Not wait around for it to be painfully obvious that his career was over because he's no longer capable of justifying his paycheck with his skill.

I'm sure this will get a bunch of the perpetually outraged to run out and buy his book though so good on him for that.
 
2014-01-03 01:21:43 AM  

BigOle8point: But didn't they pretty much do the same thing with the K position in the draft with Blair Walsh?


Longwell was pretty old.

But I did find an interesting quote from Kluwe from when Longwell was released:

"Sad to see Ryan go, both as a teammate and as a friend," Kluwe said on Twitter. "Unfortunately, that's the business of the NFL; we all get replaced eventually."
 
2014-01-03 01:25:38 AM  

Transpogue: Kluwe called out a coach who wished for the killing of all gay people on the planet.


Allegedly, nobody has backed up his claims and no audio recordings have come out.
 
2014-01-03 01:27:05 AM  

steamingpile: A Fark Handle: or he's not a moron and doesn't really care if he plays again and would rather point out how much of a bigoted asshat that the vikings' special teams coach is.

/he says he realizes his career is most likely done.

Except unless he has proof he said all these things it will never come out and look more like Kluwe is a bitter former player, he could have kept his mouth shut until he got others to come out with him or catch him at a moment when he farked up.

And his career wasnt done, he wouldnt be making his old salary sure but he would have been in the 500k-700k range, but now its done thanks to saying shiat that cant be proven.


turns out "proof" will be up to other special team players risking being fired.  it's not common practice for a punter to record all his meetings with various coaches.  and he had to get at least $850K or so as an 8 year vet.  that said, is it really hard to believe that a football coach could be bigoted?  it's he said, he said.  the one thing that kluwe has going for him is a track record of being open, honest, and thoughtful.  the coach has a track record of being a special teams coach for a shiatty team. also, who the fark drafts a punter?  is al davis corpse running the vikings?
 
2014-01-03 01:27:48 AM  
I can't help but wonder if the Duck Dynasty fans are up in arms about this guy's 1st Amendment rights here.

Remember, as they understand it, if your job fires you for speaking your mind, it's a sign that Obama has suspended the Constitution. Someone had better call Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal immediately.
 
2014-01-03 01:31:34 AM  

steamingpile: Transpogue: Kluwe called out a coach who wished for the killing of all gay people on the planet.

Allegedly, nobody has backed up his claims and no audio recordings have come out.


nixon was the last fool stupid enough to audio record all meetings.
 
2014-01-03 01:33:21 AM  

Mikey1969: I can't help but wonder if the Duck Dynasty fans are up in arms about this guy's 1st Amendment rights here.

Remember, as they understand it, if your job fires you for speaking your mind, it's a sign that Obama has suspended the Constitution. Someone had better call Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal immediately.


to be fair that one duck dynasty dude (not the openly bigoted one - i think?) was a better quarterback than terry bradshaw.  and a good quarterback is a lot more important than a punter.
 
2014-01-03 01:35:19 AM  

A Fark Handle: it's not common practice for a punter to record all his meetings with various coaches.


In retrospect, though, he probably should've done it if he was planning on doing this at some point anyway. Also, it's not THAT rare for teams to draft punters. A couple get drafted every year.
 
2014-01-03 01:38:55 AM  

IAmRight: Also, it's not THAT rare for teams to draft punters. A couple get drafted every year.


i know.  granted that means you're looking at an expect draft rate of one punter every 11-16 years per team.  and yet the vikings had a punter that was performing decently and still did.
 
2014-01-03 01:39:55 AM  

Mikey1969: I can't help but wonder if the Duck Dynasty fans are up in arms about this guy's 1st Amendment rights here.

Remember, as they understand it, if your job fires you for speaking your mind, it's a sign that Obama has suspended the Constitution. Someone had better call Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal immediately.


Is there a show that will cost A&E 1/3 as much and get equal or higher ratings than Duck Dynasty with the added benefit of appeasing the OUTRAGED BECAUSE SOME GUY ON SOME SHOW SAID SOMETHING IN A MAGAZINE crowd waiting in the wings for A&E to pickup instead? Of course not. Stupid straw-man is stupid.
 
2014-01-03 01:43:18 AM  

MoeSzyslak: Is there a show that will cost A&E 1/3 as much and get equal or higher ratings than Duck Dynasty with the added benefit of appeasing the OUTRAGED BECAUSE SOME GUY ON SOME SHOW SAID SOMETHING IN A MAGAZINE crowd waiting in the wings for A&E to pickup instead? Of course not.


Probably. If there's one thing we've learned from reality TV it's that people LOVE stupid things that don't cost much money or require any brains to create/consume.
 
2014-01-03 01:48:10 AM  
For everyone but Kluwe himself apparently. Replace him with an equally good but 1/3 the price player and you're all cowards and bigots. Chris Kluwe would by wise to get the fark over himself.

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2014-01-03 01:48:19 AM  

A Fark Handle: steamingpile: A Fark Handle: or he's not a moron and doesn't really care if he plays again and would rather point out how much of a bigoted asshat that the vikings' special teams coach is.

/he says he realizes his career is most likely done.

Except unless he has proof he said all these things it will never come out and look more like Kluwe is a bitter former player, he could have kept his mouth shut until he got others to come out with him or catch him at a moment when he farked up.

And his career wasnt done, he wouldnt be making his old salary sure but he would have been in the 500k-700k range, but now its done thanks to saying shiat that cant be proven.

turns out "proof" will be up to other special team players risking being fired.  it's not common practice for a punter to record all his meetings with various coaches.  and he had to get at least $850K or so as an 8 year vet.  that said, is it really hard to believe that a football coach could be bigoted?  it's he said, he said.  the one thing that kluwe has going for him is a track record of being open, honest, and thoughtful.  the coach has a track record of being a special teams coach for a shiatty team. also, who the fark drafts a punter?  is al davis corpse running the vikings?


I wouldnt mind being the special teams coach for the Vikings for a year. I'm sure I'd get fired, probably in pre season. But it'd be a lot of fun I think, so perspective.

And yeah, teams draft punters every year.
 
2014-01-03 01:49:25 AM  

IAmRight: Probably. If there's one thing we've learned from reality TV it's that people LOVE stupid things that don't cost much money or require any brains to create/consume.



Very true...
 
2014-01-03 02:02:11 AM  

MoeSzyslak: KEEP ME AROUND AND PAY ME THREE TIMES WHAT A BETTER REPLACEMENT MAKES OR YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GAY HATING BIGOTS!!!!


The Vikings also spent a 5th-round draft pick. I'd say that's a rather high price to be paying for a punter.
 
2014-01-03 02:16:59 AM  

Gosling: MoeSzyslak: KEEP ME AROUND AND PAY ME THREE TIMES WHAT A BETTER REPLACEMENT MAKES OR YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GAY HATING BIGOTS!!!!

The Vikings also spent a 5th-round draft pick. I'd say that's a rather high price to be paying for a punter.


A price that has no bearing on the salary cap unlike Kluwe's salary. Who else would they have drafted in the 5th-round that would have had a bigger impact than a serviceable to good rookie punter who costs 1/3 of what you're paying the old guy with knee problems and theoretically could be around just as long as Kluwe was until needing to be replaced?

It wasn't some conspiracy to throw away a draft pick in order to justify getting rid of the outspoken gay rights punter who just so happens to also have knee issues and is only mediocre at best by league standards. Oh and also costs three times as much. Yeah the only possible reason for getting rid of him must have been some sort of anti-gay conspiracy to get rid of him while making the team worse off by completely wasting a draft pick.

This is a bunch of butthurt sour grapes.
 
2014-01-03 07:43:53 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: boyofd: On the other hand, his replacement had almost identical stats, so it seems like a stretch to believe that he was replaced solely for talent/production reasons.

His replacement had identical stats and cost one-third as much.

Would you rather play $9 for a sandwich or $3 for a sandwich if you knew they would taste the same?


Right.  In other words, you agree that it wasn't solely for his production.  Notice how I put that word in italics.  And how many times do NFL teams cut the veteran to replace him with an unknown rookie when the production looks similar?  NFL teams aren't exactly cut-rate type employers.
 
2014-01-03 07:55:31 AM  

Gosling: MoeSzyslak: KEEP ME AROUND AND PAY ME THREE TIMES WHAT A BETTER REPLACEMENT MAKES OR YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GAY HATING BIGOTS!!!!

The Vikings also spent a 5th-round draft pick. I'd say that's a rather high price to be paying for a punter.


Not really. That is just bad drafting if anything; most punters go undrafted then get signed as rookie free agents.

If anything, it shows how much Minnesota wanted a better punter. Stats show that Kluwe was not a very good punter, which is likely the main reason he got cut.
 
2014-01-03 08:26:51 AM  
Hmmm, I'm an otherwise obscure punter who's been cut by his last team, and can't catch on with a new one. No one cares about kickers, so how do I garner attention to myself? Let's see...
 
2014-01-03 08:37:48 AM  

MoeSzyslak: Mikey1969: I can't help but wonder if the Duck Dynasty fans are up in arms about this guy's 1st Amendment rights here.

Remember, as they understand it, if your job fires you for speaking your mind, it's a sign that Obama has suspended the Constitution. Someone had better call Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal immediately.

Is there a show that will cost A&E 1/3 as much and get equal or higher ratings than Duck Dynasty with the added benefit of appeasing the OUTRAGED BECAUSE SOME GUY ON SOME SHOW SAID SOMETHING IN A MAGAZINE crowd waiting in the wings for A&E to pickup instead? Of course not. Stupid straw-man is stupid.


You wouldn't know a straw man If it was on its knees giving you head.

This is a perfectly valid comparison, right down to someone getting cannned due to their beliefs on gay marriage.

You need a lot more practice at the art of deflection, you really suck at it.
 
2014-01-03 08:51:40 AM  
This is a perfectly valid comparison, right down to someone getting cannned due to their beliefs on gay marriage.


If the duck guy and his whole show been canceled due to low ratings, and then he claimed later it was because of his political beliefs, then perhaps you would have an accurate comparison. Unfortunately...
 
2014-01-03 09:23:39 AM  

doubled99: This is a perfectly valid comparison, right down to someone getting cannned due to their beliefs on gay marriage.


If the duck guy and his whole show been canceled due to low ratings, and then he claimed later it was because of his political beliefs, then perhaps you would have an accurate comparison. Unfortunately...


... I agree with doubled99 100%.

... I think this of the End Times.

/dogs and cats, living together
 
2014-01-03 09:34:40 AM  

machoprogrammer: Gosling: MoeSzyslak: KEEP ME AROUND AND PAY ME THREE TIMES WHAT A BETTER REPLACEMENT MAKES OR YOU ARE A BUNCH OF GAY HATING BIGOTS!!!!

The Vikings also spent a 5th-round draft pick. I'd say that's a rather high price to be paying for a punter.

Not really. That is just bad drafting if anything; most punters go undrafted then get signed as rookie free agents.

If anything, it shows how much Minnesota wanted a better punter. Stats show that Kluwe was not a very good punter, which is likely the main reason he got cut.


And Kluwe has said before that it wasn't surprising that he got cut, it was going to happen sooner rather than later.  What the sleestaks are ignoring is how the Vikings coaching staff handled the personnel move.  The special teams coach had less than no business injecting his opinions into this matter, clearly took a severe dislike to Kluwe because Kluwe wasn't taking kindly to his bigoted objections.

I don't have reason to doubt that his side of the story is mostly accurate; he's always been honest about the sport (at times brutally so) but he clearly is also aware that his statements can have ramifications.  I don't blame him for waiting until now to tell the story, he's absolutely right about causing a distraction.

So if Kluwe's version of the story is accurate, it means the people on the coaching staff and in the front office, who are all life-long products of a sport that naturally perpetuates a hyper-machismo, alpha-male attitude, did not like what Kluwe was saying and acted in an irresponsible and completely unprofessional manner while evaluating whether or not to bring him back the following season.

Kluwe may be spinning his play ability a bit, but I also don't blame him for that when a lot of people's knee-jerk reaction is "Dude wasn't even that good of a player, therefore I don't care what he says."  (I've heard a statement like that before, in a completely different setting.  About a decade ago Colorado coach Gary Barnett responded to an accusation that female kicker Katie Hnida was sexually assaulted by a teammate - he said she wasn't that great of a kicker.  They're both classless and deflecting responses.)

We all need to take his declining performance, and the Vikings' desire to find a replacement as good but cheaper, and put it to the side.  Spending a 5th round pick on a punter is strange (it's easy to find an UDFA punter), but not crucial to the point.  Employees of the Vikings demonstrated a complete lack of professionalism in dealing with Kluwe, and the public and future employers need to be aware of it.
 
2014-01-03 10:03:35 AM  

Gosling: I should also toss in for the record, in addition to Oakland, Kluwe tried out for the Bears, Bills and Bengals.

*The Bears brought in six punters to try out for Adam Podlesh's job, Kluwe included. They stuck with Podlesh.
*The Bills had cut Shawn Powell. Kluwe tried out. They went with Adam Moorman instead.
*The Bengals watched Kevin Huber get decapitated. Kluwe tried out. They went with freshly-cut Shawn Powell instead.


And guess who was just cut by the Bengals after shanking a 10-yard punt into the stands?  They have Mesko now.
 
2014-01-03 10:12:29 AM  
That fact that so many people know so much about punters is disturbing.
 
2014-01-03 10:29:18 AM  

Crewmannumber6: That fact that so many people know so much about punters is disturbing.


Meh.

Name your favorite hobby and/or pasttime.

Bet you know enough about it that someone else could say the same kind of thing about you.
 
2014-01-03 10:46:43 AM  

MoeSzyslak: A price that has no bearing on the salary cap unlike Kluwe's salary. Who else would they have drafted in the 5th-round that would have had a bigger impact than a serviceable to good rookie punter who costs 1/3 of what you're paying the old guy with knee problems and theoretically could be around just as long as Kluwe was until needing to be replaced?


The Packers drafted Micah Hyde four picks after Locke. Pretty sure the Vikings could have used Hyde.
 
2014-01-03 11:05:46 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Crewmannumber6: That fact that so many people know so much about punters is disturbing.

Meh.

Name your favorite hobby and/or pasttime.

Bet you know enough about it that someone else could say the same kind of thing about you.


Your favorite hobby/passtime is punters?
 
2014-01-03 11:55:16 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Jim from Saint Paul: Crewmannumber6: That fact that so many people know so much about punters is disturbing.

Meh.

Name your favorite hobby and/or pasttime.

Bet you know enough about it that someone else could say the same kind of thing about you.

Your favorite hobby/passtime is punters?


Yes.

That's exactly right.

You totally got the point.
 
2014-01-03 12:12:20 PM  

Gosling: MoeSzyslak: A price that has no bearing on the salary cap unlike Kluwe's salary. Who else would they have drafted in the 5th-round that would have had a bigger impact than a serviceable to good rookie punter who costs 1/3 of what you're paying the old guy with knee problems and theoretically could be around just as long as Kluwe was until needing to be replaced?

The Packers drafted Micah Hyde four picks after Locke. Pretty sure the Vikings could have used Hyde.


Drafting a punter in general is stupid, since you can get them as undrafted free agents, but 5th round isn't exactly a high pick.
 
2014-01-03 12:14:33 PM  

machoprogrammer: Gosling: MoeSzyslak: A price that has no bearing on the salary cap unlike Kluwe's salary. Who else would they have drafted in the 5th-round that would have had a bigger impact than a serviceable to good rookie punter who costs 1/3 of what you're paying the old guy with knee problems and theoretically could be around just as long as Kluwe was until needing to be replaced?

The Packers drafted Micah Hyde four picks after Locke. Pretty sure the Vikings could have used Hyde.

Drafting a punter in general is stupid, since you can get them as undrafted free agents, but 5th round isn't exactly a high pick.


For a punter? They normall go 6th or 7th ish. It wasn;t a TOTAL reach. Still, it was a bit higher then the league norm.
 
2014-01-03 01:12:12 PM  

smerfnablin: Even if he was becoming too much if a PR problem and his numbers were fading, who the hell drafts a punter in the 4th round?



3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-01-03 01:13:21 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: machoprogrammer: Gosling: MoeSzyslak: A price that has no bearing on the salary cap unlike Kluwe's salary. Who else would they have drafted in the 5th-round that would have had a bigger impact than a serviceable to good rookie punter who costs 1/3 of what you're paying the old guy with knee problems and theoretically could be around just as long as Kluwe was until needing to be replaced?

The Packers drafted Micah Hyde four picks after Locke. Pretty sure the Vikings could have used Hyde.

Drafting a punter in general is stupid, since you can get them as undrafted free agents, but 5th round isn't exactly a high pick.

For a punter? They normall go 6th or 7th ish. It wasn;t a TOTAL reach. Still, it was a bit higher then the league norm.


True. 

Also, for those saying Kluwe was a good punter, check this link to compare versus the rest:  http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/punting/sort/netAvgPu n tYards/year/2012

He claims his yardage is low because of a request for higher punts for longer hang time. Well, if that was the case, his fair catches should be higher (12 fair catches in a season is really bad). His stats are pretty much all near the bottom, with a few average. The average retard yard per punt is pretty good, actually, but other than that, he was just not a good punter.
 
2014-01-03 01:40:15 PM  
OtherLittleGuy:
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Poor Jason Campbell.   Such a disrespected QB he got stuck with a punter's number with the Raiders.
 
2014-01-03 01:48:30 PM  

machoprogrammer: The average retard yard per punt is pretty good, actually, but other than that, he was just not a good punter.


It is quite important to me that my kicker have low retard yards as well.
 
2014-01-03 02:17:59 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: machoprogrammer: The average retard yard per punt is pretty good, actually, but other than that, he was just not a good punter.

It is quite important to me that my kicker have low retard yards as well.


lol wow my bad. Well done
 
2014-01-03 02:42:37 PM  

smerfnablin: Even if he was becoming too much if a PR problem and his numbers were fading, who the hell drafts a punter in the 4th round?

Seriously that's just strange to me given there are about 50 of them looking for a job every year



The Jags took Brian Anger in the third last year.
While both Russell Wilson and Nick Foles were still on the board.
 
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