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(NPR)   Being locked in a cell, beaten by other inmates, and possibly pounded in the arse is one thing, but it's nothing compared to the horror of...The Loaf   (npr.org) divider line 224
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2014-01-02 01:29:44 PM
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CALIFORNIA RECIPE FOR DISCIPLINARY DIET LOAF

INGREDIENTS

2 1/2 oz. nonfat dry milk
4 1/2 oz. raw grated potato
4 1/2 oz. raw carrots, chopped or grated fine
1 1/2 oz. tomato juice or puree
4 1/2 oz. raw cabbage, chopped fine
7 oz. lean ground beef, turkey or rehydrated, canned or frozen 2 1/2 fl. oz. oil
1 1/2 oz. whole wheat flour
1/4 tsp. salt
4 tsp. raw onion, chopped
1 egg
6 oz. dry red beans, precooked before baking (or 16 oz. canned or cooked red kidney beans) 4 tsp. chili powder
DIRECTIONS
Shape into a loaf and bake at 350-375 degrees for 50-70 minutes.
 
2014-01-02 01:34:09 PM
I turned on the radio in the middle of this piece this morning and briefly thought they were forcing inmates to listen to Meatloaf, also a cruel and unusual punishment.
 
2014-01-02 01:43:49 PM
I had a friend (no really) that talked about this during his short stint in a local county jail. He said that the smell is even worse than the taste.

The thing is though, this is usually only given out when there are issues like the article stated. What gets me is that it is just as easy to throw the loaf (and maybe more deadly) as it is any other food, so yeah, it is just a punishment.

I really think it is a bit overkill and I would more than likely blow chunks.
 
2014-01-02 01:49:13 PM
I'll put this on the list with "The Tossed Salad Man" of reason why I don't do shiat that could put me in jail.
 
2014-01-02 01:50:17 PM
Can't be as bad as the cabbage rolls at the Terre Haute Federal Pen.
 
2014-01-02 01:50:49 PM
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mmmmmmmmmmmm food loaf......
 
2014-01-02 01:56:57 PM

foo monkey: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 360x286]

CALIFORNIA RECIPE FOR DISCIPLINARY DIET LOAF

INGREDIENTS

2 1/2 oz. nonfat dry milk
4 1/2 oz. raw grated potato
4 1/2 oz. raw carrots, chopped or grated fine
1 1/2 oz. tomato juice or puree
4 1/2 oz. raw cabbage, chopped fine
7 oz. lean ground beef, turkey or rehydrated, canned or frozen 2 1/2 fl. oz. oil
1 1/2 oz. whole wheat flour
1/4 tsp. salt
4 tsp. raw onion, chopped
1 egg
6 oz. dry red beans, precooked before baking (or 16 oz. canned or cooked red kidney beans) 4 tsp. chili powder
DIRECTIONS
Shape into a loaf and bake at 350-375 degrees for 50-70 minutes.


That does not sound completely awful. Not delicious by any means, but edible. I'm tempted to make it for the family one night to see if they'll eat it.

Enough ketchup, and I'm betting they will.
 
2014-01-02 01:57:15 PM
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2014-01-02 01:57:53 PM
I would, however, not want to share a cell with someone who's been eating that.
 
2014-01-02 02:00:18 PM
I could make this for my mother and she'd just drench it in Frank's Hot Sauce and declare it to be the most delicious meal ever.

/seriously, that shiat makes you forget what actual food tastes like
//it also makes you a lazy cook because you no longer care about imparting flavor during the cooking process
 
2014-01-02 02:04:49 PM

namegoeshere: hat does not sound completely awful. Not delicious by any means, but edible. I'm tempted to make it for the family one night to see if they'll eat it.

Enough ketchup, and I'm betting they will.


That's just it:  It's edible, but exceedingly bland, and you get the same thing, day in and day out, as a punishment.

With no ketchup.

And I'm actually OK with it.  If it's used as TFA states, mainly as a punishment for infractions, that seems like an appropriate use.
 
2014-01-02 02:04:50 PM
Sounds like a great, non-violent way to punish inmates who misbehave and deter future misbehavior.

"But when we started to use this in the disciplinary pods, all of a sudden the incidence of fights, disorder, of attacks against our staff started to drop tremendously. The word got around - we knew it would. And we'll often hear from inmates, 'Please, please, I won't do that anymore. Don't put me in the disciplinary pod. I don't want to eat nutraloaf.' "
 
2014-01-02 02:07:15 PM

dittybopper: namegoeshere: hat does not sound completely awful. Not delicious by any means, but edible. I'm tempted to make it for the family one night to see if they'll eat it.

Enough ketchup, and I'm betting they will.

That's just it:  It's edible, but exceedingly bland, and you get the same thing, day in and day out, as a punishment.

With no ketchup.

And I'm actually OK with it.  If it's used as TFA states, mainly as a punishment for infractions, that seems like an appropriate use.


Exactly. I mean, I'd have a problem with it if the prisons fed it to EVERYONE, but for disciplinary cases? Bon appetit!
 
2014-01-02 02:15:15 PM
I thought that was some kind of fraternity initiation.
 
2014-01-02 02:15:20 PM

foo monkey: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 360x286]

CALIFORNIA RECIPE FOR DISCIPLINARY DIET LOAF


(Here's one that didn't get some ingredients cut off):

2-1/2 oz. nonfat dry milk
4-1/2 oz. raw grated potato
4-1/2 oz. raw carrots, chopped or grated fine
1-1/2 oz. tomato juice or puree
4-1/2 oz. raw cabbage, chopped fine
7 oz. lean ground beef, turkey or re-hydrated, canned or frozen Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP)
2-1/2 fl. oz. oil
1-1/2 oz. whole wheat flour
1/4 tsp. salt
4 tsp. raw onion, chopped
1 egg
6 oz. dry red beans, pre-cooked before baking (or 16 oz. canned or cooked red kidney beans)
4 tsp. chili powder

Shape into a loaf and bake at 350-375 degrees for 50-70 minutes.

SOURCE: California Code of Regulations Title 15

That doesn't sound terrible at all, actually.  I'd replace the chili powder with garlic, but only because I can't have the chili.  I'll bet if I made this with the TVP as vegetarian meatballs, people would think they were great.
 
2014-01-02 02:24:15 PM

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It doesn't have everything the body needs...
 
2014-01-02 02:27:23 PM
It doesnt sound that bad. Have you ever tried tofurkey loaf or the veggie patties at Subway? They are pretty good.
 
2014-01-02 02:32:41 PM
Sure, Paradise by the Dashboard lights is overplayed but he's got some other great songs.
 
2014-01-02 02:32:49 PM
Oh

While I was down in W.D.C.
Certain folks were not glad to see me
I just tried to get out the vote
But some little weasel must 'a dropped 'em a note
It said, "Check out the politics
Practiced by this oaf
And if they ain't just right
Feed him Confinement Loaf"

They wanna be
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Loaf, loaf
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Loaf, loaf
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Feedin' 'em, feedin' 'em
Loaf, loaf
 
2014-01-02 02:33:33 PM
It's not made with love, though, which is what makes it taste so bad.
 
2014-01-02 02:34:32 PM
Breaking news - if you don't commit a crime, you won't go to jail. If you don't goto jail, you won't have to eat some horrible ass foods. Stay out of jail, and make sure you don't drop soap either.
 
2014-01-02 02:35:55 PM
Hear I was thinking it'd be about them blaring "I'll do anything for love, but not that." on repeat in solitary.
 
2014-01-02 02:36:04 PM
If I ever reconnect with a pedophyle "friend", I'll be sure to have this on hand to feed him.
/no intention to
//he still calls every now and then...
/// no, I don't pick up
 
2014-01-02 02:36:55 PM
If they have decent hot sauce in their canteen they can make anything taste better than 'edible'.
/and boo farking hoo, they're offenders
 
2014-01-02 02:37:41 PM

bearded clamorer: Can't be as bad as the cabbage rolls at the Terre Haute Federal Pen.


Cook County does a wicked pepper steak on Thursdays.
 
2014-01-02 02:37:48 PM

LeroyBourne: If they have decent hot sauce in their canteen they can make anything taste better than 'edible'.
/and boo farking hoo, they're offenders


They don't.  Throw that in a someone's eyes, and it's a very effective weapon.
 
2014-01-02 02:38:15 PM
They talked about this on an episode of MSNBC's 'Lockup.' The documentary crew actually tried some and said it wasn't too bad (but an inmate who was working in the kitchens said it was the worst). It looked pretty gross.
 
2014-01-02 02:39:31 PM
I've always wished some Cable-TV-Cooking-Channel would take this up as a challenge, i.e., "how tasty a meal can you make using [only] these ingredients?"

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On a separate, related note: an acquaintance once developed/oversaw foods for Oscar Mayer. Sometimes batches of "loaf" sorts of lunch meats (bologna, etc.) wouldn't quite meet the exact percentages as stated on the package--but they were otherwise just fine, and probably didn't taste a bit different. Those got sent (donated?) to penal institutions; at O.M., their nickname for these was "con loaf."
 
2014-01-02 02:40:03 PM

Misconduc: Breaking news - if you don't commit a crime, you won't go to jail. If you don't goto jail, you won't have to eat some horrible ass foods. Stay out of jail, and make sure you don't drop soap either.


You must not have a problem being surveilled by the government and corporations then, either. You aren't doing anything wrong, so you must not have anything to hide, what's the problem?
 
2014-01-02 02:40:41 PM
I posted the recipe for Loaf on the fridge and decreed that the next person who biatched about what I cooked would be getting Loaf for a week.

There was no corresponding increase in gratitude, but the biatching ceased.

Which is all I was asking for, really.
 
2014-01-02 02:40:49 PM
When I was a prison guard at Moore Haven Correctional (S. Florida) we called it the "Management Meal"  and the inmates only got it when they threw their food and food trays.
It looked worse than the smell and the smell would make a goat go off it's feed.
 
2014-01-02 02:41:06 PM
With some pepper and good preparation that could taste ok.  The wheat flour would cause reflux and i hate turkey but the rest of the ingredients seem ok.
 
2014-01-02 02:41:08 PM
Well, the diarrhea it would cause makes a good lube.
 
2014-01-02 02:42:13 PM
When I was in prison, nutraloaf would be a Godsend. Most of the time I just got buttloaf. It wasn't provided by the prision, it was made by other inmates.


/not really
 
2014-01-02 02:42:23 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: That doesn't sound terrible at all, actually. I'd replace the chili powder with garlic, but only because I can't have the chili. I'll bet if I made this with the TVP as vegetarian meatballs, people would think they were great.


I'm sure it doesn't sound terrible, but try eating that - and only that - three times a day.
 
2014-01-02 02:42:56 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: foo monkey: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 360x286]

CALIFORNIA RECIPE FOR DISCIPLINARY DIET LOAF

(Here's one that didn't get some ingredients cut off):

2-1/2 oz. nonfat dry milk
4-1/2 oz. raw grated potato
4-1/2 oz. raw carrots, chopped or grated fine
1-1/2 oz. tomato juice or puree
4-1/2 oz. raw cabbage, chopped fine
7 oz. lean ground beef, turkey or re-hydrated, canned or frozen Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP)
2-1/2 fl. oz. oil
1-1/2 oz. whole wheat flour
1/4 tsp. salt
4 tsp. raw onion, chopped
1 egg
6 oz. dry red beans, pre-cooked before baking (or 16 oz. canned or cooked red kidney beans)
4 tsp. chili powder

Shape into a loaf and bake at 350-375 degrees for 50-70 minutes.

SOURCE: California Code of Regulations Title 15

That doesn't sound terrible at all, actually.  I'd replace the chili powder with garlic, but only because I can't have the chili.  I'll bet if I made this with the TVP as vegetarian meatballs, people would think they were great.


Watch this will become a delicasy in 100 years.

They used to serve prisoners Lobster in the 1800s.
 
2014-01-02 02:44:47 PM
That's Mr. Loaf to you.
www.virginmedia.com
 
2014-01-02 02:44:55 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: LeroyBourne: If they have decent hot sauce in their canteen they can make anything taste better than 'edible'.
/and boo farking hoo, they're offenders

They don't.  Throw that in a someone's eyes, and it's a very effective weapon.


Ahh a mace, I suppose.  There has to be some herbs or spices available to them.
 
2014-01-02 02:45:27 PM
Maybe this makes me a insensitive jerk, but this is what I consider an acceptable negative reinforcement.

Only inmates with discipline problems get the loaf. Stop being troublesome and you won't get the loaf.

This is far preferable to a beating in a cell as a form of encouragement.
 
2014-01-02 02:45:28 PM
I'm sure there are inmates in places like China and N. Korea that would be very appreciative of that loaf.
 
2014-01-02 02:45:36 PM
It that photo at the top of the thread of the loaf before it's eaten, or after it comes out?
 
2014-01-02 02:45:40 PM
If you're in jail there's a good chance you deserve to be. Don't want to eat it? Don't go to jail.
 
2014-01-02 02:45:49 PM

Misconduc: Breaking news - if you don't commit a crime, you won't go to jail.*


*probably
 
2014-01-02 02:45:53 PM
The for-profit prisons are much worse.  The cost of food for the inmates hits the bottom line.  So they feed them accordingly.
 
2014-01-02 02:46:12 PM

grinding_journalist: Misconduc: Breaking news - if you don't commit a crime, you won't go to jail. If you don't goto jail, you won't have to eat some horrible ass foods. Stay out of jail, and make sure you don't drop soap either.

You must not have a problem being surveilled by the government and corporations then, either. You aren't doing anything wrong, so you must not have anything to hide, what's the problem?


www.integratorsacademy.com
 
2014-01-02 02:47:16 PM

Misconduc: Breaking news - if you don't commit a crime, you won't go to jail


That's some world class trolling there.  10/10.
 
2014-01-02 02:49:12 PM
Prisoners used to eat grue?  What sort of bizarro world is this where a grue gets eaten by you?
 
2014-01-02 02:50:49 PM
Yeah, I listened to that story on the way in to work. Now, I'm enough of a bleeding-heart liberal that I keep a couple of emergency cardiac tampons in the glove-box, but by the time they got to the end of this story, I was thinking "that's gonna be waaay down on my priority list of injustices to fight."

"Cruel and unusual" to give inmates nutritious but boring/unappealing food? Please.
 
2014-01-02 02:50:57 PM
I'd pinch it!
 
2014-01-02 02:51:00 PM
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