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(Deadspin)   Third-and-14 from your own one-yard line, what play do you call? Off tackle hand off? Nope. Up the middle draw play? Guess again (w/video)   (deadspin.com) divider line 41
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2014-01-02 10:59:27 AM  
Sigh. I look forward to a year when things we do are highlights.
 
2014-01-02 11:02:42 AM  
There's one thing that was made abundantly clear yesterday: Aaron Murray is underrated.
 
2014-01-02 11:02:49 AM  
I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares?  You basically just punted anyway.
 
2014-01-02 11:13:19 AM  
That was a pretty baller call.  Yesterday had a bunch of big plays and run-backs like that.  It made for some quite choice couch-surfing.
 
2014-01-02 11:24:24 AM  

Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares falls incomplete?  You basically just punted anyway. gave them a touchdown.


FTFthat'swhy
 
2014-01-02 11:27:08 AM  

millia: Sigh. I look forward to a year when things we do are highlights.


And as I said yesterday, its so nice to know the secondary learned not to let a WR get behind you on crucial plays.

Grantham needs to go.
 
2014-01-02 11:28:04 AM  
Don't think you're going to find many coaches calling an up the middle draw play when they're backed up on their own goal line.
 
2014-01-02 11:29:50 AM  

grinding_journalist: Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares falls incomplete?  You basically just punted anyway. gave them a touchdown.

FTFthat'swhy


OK I'm not an amchair QB by any means but why would you call such a risky play when you're ahead and it's only the 3rd quarter?
 
2014-01-02 11:33:18 AM  

hitmanric: grinding_journalist: Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares falls incomplete?  You basically just punted anyway. gave them a touchdown.

FTFthat'swhy

OK I'm not an amchair QB by any means but why would you call such a risky play when you're ahead and it's only the 3rd quarter?


Because Unleash the Dragon™.
 
2014-01-02 11:35:20 AM  

grinding_journalist: Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares falls incomplete?  You basically just punted anyway. gave them a touchdown.

FTFthat'swhy


Or you punt on 4th down.

Reading is fundamental.
 
2014-01-02 11:40:20 AM  

Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares?  You basically just punted anyway.


Because it's not the same as a punt.  Let's say on this play, the safety isn't asleep and plays it properly, comes over and makes the pick.  If the receiver isn't in position to tackle him, the next available player to tackle the safety is about 30 yards away.

So instead of 'netting' about 35-40 yards via a punt, you net 10 or 20, if not a TD.
 
2014-01-02 11:41:51 AM  

PowerSlacker: grinding_journalist: Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares falls incomplete?  You basically just punted anyway. gave them a touchdown.

FTFthat'swhy

Or you punt on 4th down.

Reading is fundamental.



Beat me to it.
 
2014-01-02 11:45:46 AM  
Approves.
funkatron.com
 
2014-01-02 11:45:51 AM  

Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares?  You basically just punted anyway.


A play like that takes time to develop, meaning that your risks of giving up a sack are pretty high.
 
2014-01-02 11:49:20 AM  
A buddy of mine came over to eat some grub and watch that game.  He is a Georgia alum.  He left after that play and didn't say a word out the door.
 
2014-01-02 11:56:08 AM  

JusticeandIndependence: A buddy of mine came over to eat some grub and watch that game.  He is a Georgia alum.  He left after that play and didn't say a word out the door.


Sounds pretty mature.  Did he go cry in the treehouse and eat a lunchable with a juicebox?
 
2014-01-02 12:03:46 PM  

grinding_journalist: Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares falls incomplete?  You basically just punted anyway. gave them a touchdown.

FTFthat'swhy


Not sure if stupid or stupidest.
 
2014-01-02 12:08:45 PM  

Lou Brown: Don't think you're going to find many coaches calling an up the middle draw play when they're backed up on their own goal line.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You've never rooted for a team with Bill Musgrave or Dan Henning as your OC.
 
2014-01-02 12:15:19 PM  

flak attack: Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares?  You basically just punted anyway.

A play like that takes time to develop, meaning that your risks of giving up a sack are pretty high.


Which, in this case, would have been a safety. The second-down play prior to this was actually reviewed to make sure it wasn't two points for the Bulldogs... the ball was placed less than half a football length away from the goal line.

This throw was an extremely gutsy call, given how conservative Nebraska's first-half offense had been... and that Armstrong is the weakest passer among Nebraska's quarterback stable. Good choice going to Enunwa though... he isn't as explosive as Bell or Turner, but he's far more sure-handed.
 
2014-01-02 12:17:08 PM  
In the NFL,the call in that situation is beyond obvious:


PITCH IT TO TASHARD CHOICE!
 
2014-01-02 12:19:36 PM  

steamingpile: millia: Sigh. I look forward to a year when things we do are highlights.

And as I said yesterday, its so nice to know the secondary learned not to let a WR get behind you on crucial plays.

Grantham needs to go.


Why? It wasn't that long ago when Richt said the defense had "turned a corner".
 
2014-01-02 12:20:54 PM  

Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares?  You basically just punted anyway.


You can much more reliably contain a punt return than an interception return.

Don't get me wrong, there is a time and a place for it and I do believe that high level football coaches tend to play too conservatively (primarily because big risks will bite you on the ass sometimes and will be laid directly on your feet). Hell, in the Bengals game on Sunday one of Flacco's throws netted them 35 yards on a 4th down interception.

This type of play was probably not intended to get a first down, just to get a few more yards for the punter.
 
2014-01-02 12:27:50 PM  

clkeagle: flak attack: Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares?  You basically just punted anyway.

A play like that takes time to develop, meaning that your risks of giving up a sack are pretty high.

Which, in this case, would have been a safety. The second-down play prior to this was actually reviewed to make sure it wasn't two points for the Bulldogs... the ball was placed less than half a football length away from the goal line.

This throw was an extremely gutsy call, given how conservative Nebraska's first-half offense had been... and that Armstrong is the weakest passer among Nebraska's quarterback stable. Good choice going to Enunwa though... he isn't as explosive as Bell or Turner, but he's far more sure-handed.


It depends. Giving up 2 is certainly not the end of the world. And it likely improves field position over a punt from the back of your endzone. Depending on the game situation the actual cost of a safety can vary greatly. At some point you may as well try a play with a higher safety risk for the huge upside and minimal downside if field position is more valuable than the points.
 
2014-01-02 12:31:55 PM  

LucklessWonder: In the NFL,the call in that situation is beyond obvious:


PITCH IT TO TASHARD CHOICE!


Lane Kiffin would have trotted out Seabass for a 119-yard field goal attempt.
 
2014-01-02 12:44:09 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Lou Brown: Don't think you're going to find many coaches calling an up the middle draw play when they're backed up on their own goal line.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You've never rooted for a team with Bill Musgrave or Dan Henning as your OC.


You're crazy.

Bill would call a play action pass where his qb would roll out and have to throw it off his back foot.
 
2014-01-02 12:46:53 PM  
I just came in here to point and laugh at UGA.
 
2014-01-02 12:53:17 PM  
I too came here to point and laugh at UGA.

SEC SEC SEC  BigTen too slow.
 
2014-01-02 01:10:40 PM  
NU's defense had been playing well, held UGA to mostly FG's the entire game.  Offense is backed up in their own end zone.  Why not throw a bomb?  Make them defend all 99 yards.

/GBR!
//Huskers and Sparty were the only B1G teams to show up in bowl games so far.
 
2014-01-02 01:13:51 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: UNC_Samurai: Lou Brown: Don't think you're going to find many coaches calling an up the middle draw play when they're backed up on their own goal line.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You've never rooted for a team with Bill Musgrave or Dan Henning as your OC.

You're crazy.

Bill would call a play action pass where his qb would roll out and have to throw it off his back foot.


Maybe someone reversed the polarity in his brain, then. Or he had PTSD from almost getting Biakabatuka killed.
 
2014-01-02 01:14:20 PM  

chuggernaught: //Huskers and Sparty were the only B1G teams to show up in bowl games so far.


Wisky kept it very close with the Gamecocks, and as did Iowa with LSU.  Not every loss is a choke, after all.  Michigan was predictably embarrassing, however.
 
2014-01-02 01:17:37 PM  
I didn't recognize the QB for Georgia - I didn't realize Murray was hurt.

I was also thoroughly unimpressed with LSU's backup QB.
 
2014-01-02 01:20:18 PM  

factoryconnection: and as did Iowa with LSU.



For the past several years, every time I've seen LSU play, I've been underwhelmed by the play of their QBs.
 
2014-01-02 01:26:22 PM  
It's not as high-risk as it might seem. Georgia's regular starting safety Josh Harvey-Clemons was benched because he "done forgot" to take a final exam, evidently a huge team no-no.

In his place was an inexperienced undersized freshman safety. It seems the safety bit on the wrong receiver to start, then had to catch up to his man, you can see him basically bounce off him. Not the best tackling form, I think he was going "hero time" and trying to strip the ball. Obviously, it didn't work.
 
2014-01-02 02:00:18 PM  

RobDownSouth: It's not as high-risk as it might seem. Georgia's regular starting safety Josh Harvey-Clemons was benched because he "done forgot" to take a final exam, evidently a huge team no-no.

In his place was an inexperienced undersized freshman safety. It seems the safety bit on the wrong receiver to start, then had to catch up to his man, you can see him basically bounce off him. Not the best tackling form, I think he was going "hero time" and trying to strip the ball. Obviously, it didn't work.


Well, the risk isn't downfield (well, not much more than any other down). The risk is from the pass rush.

I suppose the weak safety makes it easier to get a pass off faster.

But even the safety is trading 2 points for 30 yards and a better kick (no rush)
 
2014-01-02 03:35:18 PM  

Lou Brown: Don't think you're going to find many coaches calling an up the middle draw play when they're backed up on their own goal line.


Pat Fitzgerald unfortunately does it a lot. He is great at recruiting and player development, which is why he generally keeps a decent overall record, but he would be winning his division of he weren't such a bad gameday tactician.
 
2014-01-02 03:41:07 PM  

Realms of the Colon: I never understood why coaches are otherwise so conservative with playcalling when it's 3rd-and-a-million.  Why not bomb it?  If it gets picked off 45 yards downfield, who cares?  You basically just punted anyway.


That was our intramural team's basic strategy -- two worthless plays then "fark it, we're going nowhere.  I'll throw the long interception."  (It's important to do that on 3rd down, and not wait for 4th.)
 
2014-01-02 04:41:40 PM  

RobDownSouth: It's not as high-risk as it might seem. Georgia's regular starting safety Josh Harvey-Clemons was benched because he "done forgot" to take a final exam, evidently a huge team no-no.

In his place was an inexperienced undersized freshman safety. It seems the safety bit on the wrong receiver to start, then had to catch up to his man, you can see him basically bounce off him. Not the best tackling form, I think he was going "hero time" and trying to strip the ball. Obviously, it didn't work.


It looked to me like the safety never did catch up with Enunwa. He attempted that tackle from about three yards out... which almost never works. There was no way to get a line on him for a good tackle.

Hell, even if Enunwa had been tackled at the spot of the reception, it would have still been a big momentum-swinging catch. Taking it to the house just got the broken Husker offense off the field and the broken Georgia offense back onto it sooner.
 
2014-01-02 04:41:47 PM  

hitmanric: OK I'm not an amchair QB by any means but why would you call such a risky play when you're ahead and it's only the 3rd quarter?


Because the team hadnt been playing that well and the other team had just turned to shiat inside the 10 yard line in shiatty weather, it was dumb and if it hadnt worked they would have been calling for Bo's head today. As it was NU fans didnt show up until the game was won to gloat.

KingKauff: Why? It wasn't that long ago when Richt said the defense had "turned a corner".


Yeah, the secondary has been the same shiat heap it was at the start, they have shown zero improvement so either the secondary coach at the least has to go or he needs to go, if there were any improvement it wouldnt be an issue but all day there were guys out of position or just not paying attention trying to sneak a look into the backfield.

chuggernaught: NU's defense had been playing well, held UGA to mostly FG's the entire game.  Offense is backed up in their own end zone.  Why not throw a bomb?  Make them defend all 99 yards.

/GBR!
//Huskers and Sparty were the only B1G teams to show up in bowl games so far.


Yet you waited to talk smack until the game was over, classic NU.

Did you shut up yesterday because of all the evidence posted showing NU was a steroid factory in the 80s-90s? Tom Osbourne is a scumbag and the state should feel bad for worshiping him.
 
2014-01-02 05:27:11 PM  
SEC tackling right there.
 
2014-01-03 01:13:59 AM  
steamingpile:

Did you shut up yesterday because of all the evidence posted showing NU was a steroid factory in the 80s-90s? Tom Osbourne is a scumbag and the state should feel bad for worshiping him.

Are your feelings that hurt?

/GBR
 
2014-01-03 02:20:34 AM  
steamingpile:
Yet you waited to talk smack until the game was over, classic NU.

I don't know about anybody else but I was watching the game and cheering for my team. Can't be on fark trolling all the time.

/gbr
 
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