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(Yahoo)   Three of the four NFL playoff games this weekend that are not yet sellouts. It is so bad the Green Bay Packers might be blacked out locally. Shelling out a few hundred and sitting in frigid temperatures just isn't appealing anymore   (sports.yahoo.com ) divider line 25
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2014-01-02 10:11:34 AM  
2 votes:
The NFL will not allow playoff games to get blacked out. They'll buy as many tickets as they have to themselves.

But yeah, games have just been priced out of people's budgets, and all the stadium policies and the shiat you have to put up with. Blackout threat or no blackout threat, playoffs or no playoffs, eventually people simply do not have the money anymore to show up.
2014-01-02 08:46:20 AM  
2 votes:

MmmmBacon: Problem is, as awesome as watching at home can be, if people all start staying home, then the television broadcasts will eventually go to pay-per-view, rather than free networks. Especially the playoffs. So while I'm perfectly happy to stay at home (my team is not even in the playoffs, and about 2000 miles away), I think fans should support their team if they can and attend in person.


Yeah cause it's not like they're supporting them with stadium subsidies and tax write offs.

/we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched
///look at their anti-trust exemption too
2014-01-02 08:51:27 PM  
1 vote:

mjbok: tenton: No, we don't want the Rams back.

Statements like that is why LA doesn't deserve an NFL team.


Perfectly content with no team in l.a. Unless the owner is willing to foot the bill for the entire stadium the nfl can go fark itself. Taxpayers should not be expected to pay for billionaires toys.
2014-01-02 01:33:09 PM  
1 vote:
Build a dome, you psychos
2014-01-02 01:11:04 PM  
1 vote:

ShadowKamui: poughdrew: poughdrew: eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years

If this is a back loaded contract with little guaranteed money, I'm OK with this.

Hmm, $17.6M, $50M guaranteed.  F-that.

Its about what Stafford makes, unless you wanna roll the dice on some rookie drafting you aren't getting a QB as good as Cutler for less than that

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/92548/nfl-nation-says-qb -b ang-for-buck


And they'd have really no one to overpay this offseason anyway. I suppose they could go with McCown short term, but if he started tailing off Emery would be excoriated for it. Frankly outside of one *amazing* playoff run and some durability issues, this situation really isn't much different than Flacco's.  His cap hit is a bit less per year and has 2 million or so less in guaranteed money. Seems pretty reasonable to me once you realize that any semi-good QB is going to get overpaid by his team in order to keep him.
2014-01-02 12:50:15 PM  
1 vote:

mjohnson71: I think the tides are turning and pro sports will be facing a big problem. With $100 tickets, $20 parking, $10 beers and $7 sodas they've pushed the average person too far.


I want to believe, but I feel like I read this every year. The problem is not simply the stadium prices. The problem is the TV experience is just superior in every way (including price). Not to mention, avoiding obnoxians, crowds, bathrooms, seeing the other football games, post-game traffic. There is nothing but upside to enjoying the game at home or in your favorite townie bar.
2014-01-02 11:42:15 AM  
1 vote:

antidisestablishmentarianism: Boykin, Cobb, whatever.


I know it's tough to remember who is who since they're both quick shifty guys with numbers between 10 and 20. Let me help.

Boykin (#11): Picked up the Rodgers fumble after everyone was standing around picking their asses and brought it in for a score.

Cobb (#18)
2014-01-02 11:32:18 AM  
1 vote:

pueblonative: MmmmBacon: Problem is, as awesome as watching at home can be, if people all start staying home, then the television broadcasts will eventually go to pay-per-view, rather than free networks. Especially the playoffs. So while I'm perfectly happy to stay at home (my team is not even in the playoffs, and about 2000 miles away), I think fans should support their team if they can and attend in person.

Yeah cause it's not like they're supporting them with stadium subsidies and tax write offs.

/we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched
///look at their anti-trust exemption too


You seriously need to stop misunderstanding how the NFL is setup.  Every individual team is a separate for profit company and they are taxed accordingly.

The only non-profit part is Goodell and his minions (IE the middle-men not affiliated w/ any team).
2014-01-02 10:57:26 AM  
1 vote:

pueblonative: //anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched


The NFL is an association of 32 for-profit tax paying franchises. The "NFL Headquarters" is a very small corporate office that handles things like the schedule, etc and it is a non-profit association entity.
2014-01-02 10:39:14 AM  
1 vote:

chachi88: Sissies! The lot of youse. Poor sissies at that.

Vince Lombardi would be rolling over in his grave.


You mean Mr. "Run It And Let's Get The Hell Out Of Here"?
2014-01-02 10:38:53 AM  
1 vote:

machoprogrammer: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

It was Boykin, not Cobb.

And do you know what you call a division champion team that loses in the first round of the playoffs? Division Champions.


They should put an asterisk by the Eagles and Green Bay's Division Champions record like this -- *of truly crappy division.  Are you really proud that Green Bay beat out Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago?
2014-01-02 09:41:27 AM  
1 vote:

mjbok: Rocky (the fights shown in the movies) had a losing record.


He won Rocky 2.
2014-01-02 09:16:27 AM  
1 vote:

thecpt: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

I live with my mom

Go home. You know, like your shiatty team


5/10 I don't think that was even close to trolling and it still got a bite.
2014-01-02 09:11:43 AM  
1 vote:

RedPhoenix122: MugzyBrown: pueblonative: /we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched

The NFL organization is non-profit.  Even though you can't fathom how it works, it's still non-profit.

I know exactly how it works.  The organization itself doesn't turn a profit for tax reasons.  The money just gets bled out into the pockets of all the executives.


I don't think I've ever seen someone white knight the NFL as an organization.

It amazes me that you can still possibly defend them as a non-profit, when the entire league (and Goodell's tenure) has been about increasing revenue. Sure, fine, technically the parent organization of the teams is a "non-profit", but when the ENTIRE PURPOSE of that organization is to increase revenue for its' owners and teams, how could you possibly see their status as anything but a scam?
2014-01-02 09:09:57 AM  
1 vote:

RedPhoenix122: MugzyBrown: pueblonative: /we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched

The NFL organization is non-profit.  Even though you can't fathom how it works, it's still non-profit.

I know exactly how it works.  The organization itself doesn't turn a profit for tax reasons.  The money just gets bled out into the pockets of all the executives.


Yep.  Mugsy is right.  You can't fathom how it works.
2014-01-02 08:55:58 AM  
1 vote:

MugzyBrown: pueblonative: /we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched

The NFL organization is non-profit.  Even though you can't fathom how it works, it's still non-profit.


I know exactly how it works.  The organization itself doesn't turn a profit for tax reasons.  The money just gets bled out into the pockets of all the executives.
2014-01-02 08:52:55 AM  
1 vote:
One can forgive Packers fans, because they didn't know they were even going to be in the playoffs until the last week.

Bengals and Colts fans, who had their divisions locked up for weeks? No. Farking. Excuse.
2014-01-02 08:48:26 AM  
1 vote:
The NFL lost me for good (when it comes to attending games) with the insert of PSLs. So let me get this straight, I have to pay you a ridiculous amount of money to have the privilege of handing you a lesser ridiculous amount of money to buy season tickets? Isn't that what a season ticket is? That I have X seats, and if I continue to renew them, I keep X seats? No? Ok, go fark yourselves.
2014-01-02 08:43:59 AM  
1 vote:
I'm surprised about Green Bay, considering this is a fan base dumb enough to buy worthless shares just so they can call themselves "share holders".

What does the NFL expect?  Attending a football game is boooorrring.  Kill about half the TV timeouts, and the tortureous replay rule time outs, and you might have an interesting live experience.
2014-01-02 08:36:04 AM  
1 vote:
Decisions decisions, do I spend $200+ per ticket for nose bleed seats where I can barely see the jumbotron or do I watch the game on my 60" plasma with the surround sound that can make the house sound like the stadium? Do I wait in a long line to piss or walk down the hall? Overpriced half warm beer with a limited selection or my sweet holiday ale home brew that will be ready just in time? $8 hotdogs or filet mignon on the grill? Boy this is a hard choice.
2014-01-02 08:33:32 AM  
1 vote:
The NFL has been very good at widening its fan base but those new fans are fickle. The core fans have been treated badly in favor of the corporate crowd who sees athletic events as a fun backdrop for meetings. Too many tickets are bought up in huge blocks and get handed out as employee rewards or as kickbacks to vendors. They've used pink shoes to try to get more casual female fans and endless marketing tricks to get tepid fans to tune in. But that support is a mile wide and an inch deep. These new fans are starting to get bored and are looking for the next entertainment fix. The NFL and it's cronies in the stadium replacement business have built up based on an ever increasing fan base. They're not set up for a return to the old mostly blue collar crowd. They need millions of eyes on the tv that are starting to get fatigued and they need corporate expense accounts covering the cost of attending games. They have built a league that can't go back to its blue collar roots. Financially they're not designed for it and from the perspective of the longtime fans, the league has told them to go away, they want the yuppie purchasing manager to buy their tickets. The hardcore fans will stay since they'll put up with almost any abuse but they're not enough to support the overbuilt overpriced monstrosity the NFL has become.

The NFL is in overshoot. They probably have another five years before everything really starts to fall apart. But like most organizations in severe overshoot, they're not going to realize what is going on until it's way too late to do anything about it.
2014-01-02 08:04:12 AM  
1 vote:
I'd love to go to the Green Bay game and wouldn't mind the cold, but it's the $120/ticket that's stopping me. I'd rather spend that cash on a nice party and watch at home.
2014-01-02 07:54:09 AM  
1 vote:

Klivian: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."

A few years of miserable play and you start to be concerned with how much shiat the fans will put up with.

Also, odds are low they host more than this game, since they only way they host the NFCCG is if they win, take out the Panthers in round 2, and whoever else knocks off the Seahawks in Seattle.


That's why I'm impressed. A few years back when Andy Reid fell ass-backwards into the playoffs they charged us up-front for two home games even though as the 6 seed there was no way possible to host even a single game. This year my credit card didn't get hit until after the Dallas game.

I think given the conditions this Saturday the Eagles can beat the Saints -- Jimmy Graham may have something to say about that, of course -- but this Eagles team just isn't good enough to beat the Panthers the way the Panthers are playing on defense of late, and even if a fluke win were to happen in Charlotte there's no way they can beat Seattle in Seattle.

Still - if you would have told me in September that I'd be strapping on the long johns and bringing the fire pit to a home game in January I'd have assumed that during the Giants-Cowboys game the Redskins plane must have crashed into the field.
2014-01-02 07:39:44 AM  
1 vote:
The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."
2014-01-02 07:37:33 AM  
1 vote:
One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

I've been to two NFL games in my life, one in Charlotte and one in Cincy.  Both times it was because a friend was generous enough to give us tickets.  If I lived much closer than four hours away from the nearest NFL stadium, it might be different...but I sure as hell wouldn't spend ~$75 per ticket, ~$30 per person in concessions, and (in the case of Charlotte) ~$10 to park anywhere in sight of the stadium.  And that's for the  regularseason; I'm sure the ticket prices for the playoffs are way above and beyond that.  Mrs. Samurai and I were aghast when we saw the face value of the tickets to the Cincy-Cleveland game (still had an amazing time, thanks MJ!), and there's just us; if we had a kid or two, it just wouldn't be feasible.  And we're certainly not alone.

/I gotta give Cincinnati/Newport a shout-out, though; aside from the in-stadium costs, that area is wonderful, plenty of food and shopping, and you can park for $3 at the aquarium and ride the ferry across the river.
 
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