If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Yahoo)   Three of the four NFL playoff games this weekend that are not yet sellouts. It is so bad the Green Bay Packers might be blacked out locally. Shelling out a few hundred and sitting in frigid temperatures just isn't appealing anymore   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 202
    More: Obvious, Green Bay, NFL, playoffs, sell out, home games, Green Bay Press-Gazette, tv blackouts, Ashes test  
•       •       •

1439 clicks; posted to Sports » on 02 Jan 2014 at 7:20 AM (49 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



202 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2014-01-02 07:27:39 AM  
There is no point in doing it. Sit in a warm house or bar and watch the game for free and drink and eat for half the price.
 
2014-01-02 07:37:33 AM  
One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

I've been to two NFL games in my life, one in Charlotte and one in Cincy.  Both times it was because a friend was generous enough to give us tickets.  If I lived much closer than four hours away from the nearest NFL stadium, it might be different...but I sure as hell wouldn't spend ~$75 per ticket, ~$30 per person in concessions, and (in the case of Charlotte) ~$10 to park anywhere in sight of the stadium.  And that's for the  regularseason; I'm sure the ticket prices for the playoffs are way above and beyond that.  Mrs. Samurai and I were aghast when we saw the face value of the tickets to the Cincy-Cleveland game (still had an amazing time, thanks MJ!), and there's just us; if we had a kid or two, it just wouldn't be feasible.  And we're certainly not alone.

/I gotta give Cincinnati/Newport a shout-out, though; aside from the in-stadium costs, that area is wonderful, plenty of food and shopping, and you can park for $3 at the aquarium and ride the ferry across the river.
 
2014-01-02 07:39:44 AM  
The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."
 
2014-01-02 07:43:47 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."


A few years of miserable play and you start to be concerned with how much shiat the fans will put up with.

Also, odds are low they host more than this game, since they only way they host the NFCCG is if they win, take out the Panthers in round 2, and whoever else knocks off the Seahawks in Seattle.
 
2014-01-02 07:44:38 AM  

UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.


Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

/I miss Foxboro Stadium
 
2014-01-02 07:49:58 AM  

tommyl66: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

/I miss Foxboro Stadium


Honestly, they should make it an absolute luxury experience, but then drop the price to a ridiculously low level. Going to the stadium needs to be a better football experience than playing at home, or stadiums will eventually be worthless.
 
2014-01-02 07:50:37 AM  
Eagles!

/wouldn't go for free
 
2014-01-02 07:53:38 AM  
Going to be like fifty-below in Green Bay this weekend. Can't say I'd want a $300 ticket to sit in that.
 
2014-01-02 07:54:09 AM  

Klivian: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."

A few years of miserable play and you start to be concerned with how much shiat the fans will put up with.

Also, odds are low they host more than this game, since they only way they host the NFCCG is if they win, take out the Panthers in round 2, and whoever else knocks off the Seahawks in Seattle.


That's why I'm impressed. A few years back when Andy Reid fell ass-backwards into the playoffs they charged us up-front for two home games even though as the 6 seed there was no way possible to host even a single game. This year my credit card didn't get hit until after the Dallas game.

I think given the conditions this Saturday the Eagles can beat the Saints -- Jimmy Graham may have something to say about that, of course -- but this Eagles team just isn't good enough to beat the Panthers the way the Panthers are playing on defense of late, and even if a fluke win were to happen in Charlotte there's no way they can beat Seattle in Seattle.

Still - if you would have told me in September that I'd be strapping on the long johns and bringing the fire pit to a home game in January I'd have assumed that during the Giants-Cowboys game the Redskins plane must have crashed into the field.
 
2014-01-02 07:55:12 AM  
a blackout won't be as bad as years ago. now with streaming from overseas unless no one in the fan group knows how to do it or has a decent speed internet connection they will be able to make do. i'm disappointed here in the usa the sports channels plan to carry few world cup soccer matches. my dad and i are retired and we are going to stream every time they are on. we'd have bought a soccer package in a instant.
 
2014-01-02 07:56:02 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Klivian: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."

A few years of miserable play and you start to be concerned with how much shiat the fans will put up with.

Also, odds are low they host more than this game, since they only way they host the NFCCG is if they win, take out the Panthers in round 2, and whoever else knocks off the Seahawks in Seattle.

That's why I'm impressed. A few years back when Andy Reid fell ass-backwards into the playoffs they charged us up-front for two home games even though as the 6 seed there was no way possible to host even a single game. This year my credit card didn't get hit until after the Dallas game.

I think given the conditions this Saturday the Eagles can beat the Saints -- Jimmy Graham may have something to say about that, of course -- but this Eagles team just isn't good enough to beat the Panthers the way the Panthers are playing on defense of late, and even if a fluke win were to happen in Charlotte there's no way they can beat Seattle in Seattle.

Still - if you would have told me in September that I'd be strapping on the long johns and bringing the fire pit to a home game in January I'd have assumed that during the Giants-Cowboys game the Redskins plane must have crashed into the field.


Forgot to be clear: the credit card only got hit for the first round game, not two home playoff games. The trade-off is you print your tickets at home instead of being sent traditional tickets.
 
2014-01-02 08:03:47 AM  

tommyl66: Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?


My local MLS stadium is all whizz-banged out with all that tech-stuff. The cheaper seats are still in the $30-$35 range and parking is free.
 
2014-01-02 08:04:12 AM  
I'd love to go to the Green Bay game and wouldn't mind the cold, but it's the $120/ticket that's stopping me. I'd rather spend that cash on a nice party and watch at home.
 
2014-01-02 08:06:17 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Klivian: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."

A few years of miserable play and you start to be concerned with how much shiat the fans will put up with.

Also, odds are low they host more than this game, since they only way they host the NFCCG is if they win, take out the Panthers in round 2, and whoever else knocks off the Seahawks in Seattle.

That's why I'm impressed. A few years back when Andy Reid fell ass-backwards into the playoffs they charged us up-front for two home games even though as the 6 seed there was no way possible to host even a single game. This year my credit card didn't get hit until after the Dallas game.

I think given the conditions this Saturday the Eagles can beat the Saints -- Jimmy Graham may have something to say about that, of course -- but this Eagles team just isn't good enough to beat the Panthers the way the Panthers are playing on defense of late, and even if a fluke win were to happen in Charlotte there's no way they can beat Seattle in Seattle.

Still - if you would have told me in September that I'd be strapping on the long johns and bringing the fire pit to a home game in January I'd have assumed that during the Giants-Cowboys game the Redskins plane must have crashed into the field.


I chuckled.

Still, if that plane could just happen to smash directly into Jerry's suite (and provided the heirs apparent were present there also), it could do wonders for the Dallas organization.

/with my luck, Trump would snag the team.
 
2014-01-02 08:06:58 AM  
Also: A big plus of living in Kenosha is if the game does get blacked out, I'll just pull it from WFLD instead.
 
2014-01-02 08:07:03 AM  
As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia
 
2014-01-02 08:09:51 AM  
maybe because they jack up the prices?
 
2014-01-02 08:13:33 AM  

Lawnchair: tommyl66: Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

My local MLS stadium is all whizz-banged out with all that tech-stuff. The cheaper seats are still in the $30-$35 range and parking is free.


If I lived in DC I'd absolutely drop the money on the Screaming Eagles club. It's what, about $250? But that gets you season tickets, a pre-game tailgate with craft beers on tap, and a replica jersey.
 
2014-01-02 08:13:58 AM  
Yeah. It ain't the weather, it's the prices, the surly cursing drunks, and the prices.
 
2014-01-02 08:19:55 AM  
A friend offered me tickets at $115 a piece and with pretty good locations seating wise for the Packer game. The 5 hour drive (coming from the Twin Cities) plus frigid temps really turned me off for this one. If I had never been to Lambeau I would have jumped at the opportunity but not this time. Warmth, beers of my choice, watching with friends, and the ability to act like Ramsey from that commercial int he comfort of my own home all make me want to stay in.

/I still think they will find a way to sell the remaining tickets.
//Go Pack Go!!!
 
2014-01-02 08:20:09 AM  

eagles95: E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


This is the real reason I don't think people want to go.

But stranger things have happened. Your team might be getting hot at the right time.
 
2014-01-02 08:22:36 AM  

tommyl66: Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?


Went to  a Dallas game a few years ago and couldn't believe the bullshiat that went on during the game. Mind you the last NFL game I had been to was an Oiler's game in the 80's but it just seemed like there was a whole lot of standing around while Jerry was hawking Lite beer or Ford trucks. I kept thinking that there used to be more football at a football game.
 
2014-01-02 08:23:24 AM  
I paid HUNDREDS to watch the Colts/Broncos regular season game this year in the nosebleeds. Colts playoff tickets are still going for $85. Hilarious.
 
2014-01-02 08:31:08 AM  
Even if it weren't going to be ice cold and snowing, who can afford to go?
 
2014-01-02 08:31:56 AM  
This is pretty much what St. Louis goes through every week in the regular season, fans that won't attend the games in person. Good thing the Rams will be coming back to LA, after the 2014 season.
 
2014-01-02 08:33:25 AM  
It is more fun to watch at home.  You get a better view of the action at home, the food and beer are cheaper and there's is no standing in 2 inches of urine when you've got to take a piss.
 
2014-01-02 08:33:32 AM  
The NFL has been very good at widening its fan base but those new fans are fickle. The core fans have been treated badly in favor of the corporate crowd who sees athletic events as a fun backdrop for meetings. Too many tickets are bought up in huge blocks and get handed out as employee rewards or as kickbacks to vendors. They've used pink shoes to try to get more casual female fans and endless marketing tricks to get tepid fans to tune in. But that support is a mile wide and an inch deep. These new fans are starting to get bored and are looking for the next entertainment fix. The NFL and it's cronies in the stadium replacement business have built up based on an ever increasing fan base. They're not set up for a return to the old mostly blue collar crowd. They need millions of eyes on the tv that are starting to get fatigued and they need corporate expense accounts covering the cost of attending games. They have built a league that can't go back to its blue collar roots. Financially they're not designed for it and from the perspective of the longtime fans, the league has told them to go away, they want the yuppie purchasing manager to buy their tickets. The hardcore fans will stay since they'll put up with almost any abuse but they're not enough to support the overbuilt overpriced monstrosity the NFL has become.

The NFL is in overshoot. They probably have another five years before everything really starts to fall apart. But like most organizations in severe overshoot, they're not going to realize what is going on until it's way too late to do anything about it.
 
2014-01-02 08:34:52 AM  

Nadie_AZ: eagles95: E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again

This is the real reason I don't think people want to go.

But stranger things have happened. Your team might be getting hot at the right time.


Oh hell no....they need to get shredded so we get the rotting corpse of Dom Capers fired as DC
 
2014-01-02 08:36:04 AM  
Decisions decisions, do I spend $200+ per ticket for nose bleed seats where I can barely see the jumbotron or do I watch the game on my 60" plasma with the surround sound that can make the house sound like the stadium? Do I wait in a long line to piss or walk down the hall? Overpriced half warm beer with a limited selection or my sweet holiday ale home brew that will be ready just in time? $8 hotdogs or filet mignon on the grill? Boy this is a hard choice.
 
2014-01-02 08:41:18 AM  
Problem is, as awesome as watching at home can be, if people all start staying home, then the television broadcasts will eventually go to pay-per-view, rather than free networks. Especially the playoffs. So while I'm perfectly happy to stay at home (my team is not even in the playoffs, and about 2000 miles away), I think fans should support their team if they can and attend in person.
 
2014-01-02 08:43:17 AM  

INeedAName: tommyl66: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

/I miss Foxboro Stadium

Honestly, they should make it an absolute luxury experience, but then drop the price to a ridiculously low level. Going to the stadium needs to be a better football experience than playing at home, or stadiums will eventually be worthless.


The crackdown on binge drinking also helps ruin the experience
 
2014-01-02 08:43:59 AM  
I'm surprised about Green Bay, considering this is a fan base dumb enough to buy worthless shares just so they can call themselves "share holders".

What does the NFL expect?  Attending a football game is boooorrring.  Kill about half the TV timeouts, and the tortureous replay rule time outs, and you might have an interesting live experience.
 
2014-01-02 08:44:13 AM  
Maybe if NFL tickets weren't so ungodly expensive more people might be able to buy them.
 
2014-01-02 08:44:31 AM  

UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.


See I don't necessarily think it's the price....tickets are expensive but they've been expensive for 25 years. It's just that fans now prefer the comforts of home/their den, to all the hastle involved in going to a game. You go to an NFL game, it's an all day thing. You watch at home, it's ~3 hours and you've still got the rest of the day to watch another game or play with the kids or whatever.
 
2014-01-02 08:46:20 AM  

MmmmBacon: Problem is, as awesome as watching at home can be, if people all start staying home, then the television broadcasts will eventually go to pay-per-view, rather than free networks. Especially the playoffs. So while I'm perfectly happy to stay at home (my team is not even in the playoffs, and about 2000 miles away), I think fans should support their team if they can and attend in person.


Yeah cause it's not like they're supporting them with stadium subsidies and tax write offs.

/we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched
///look at their anti-trust exemption too
 
2014-01-02 08:47:25 AM  

eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia


I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?
 
2014-01-02 08:48:26 AM  
The NFL lost me for good (when it comes to attending games) with the insert of PSLs. So let me get this straight, I have to pay you a ridiculous amount of money to have the privilege of handing you a lesser ridiculous amount of money to buy season tickets? Isn't that what a season ticket is? That I have X seats, and if I continue to renew them, I keep X seats? No? Ok, go fark yourselves.
 
2014-01-02 08:51:00 AM  

Patronick313: The NFL lost me for good (when it comes to attending games) with the insert of PSLs. So let me get this straight, I have to pay you a ridiculous amount of money to have the privilege of handing you a lesser ridiculous amount of money to buy season tickets? Isn't that what a season ticket is? That I have X seats, and if I continue to renew them, I keep X seats? No? Ok, go fark yourselves.


Yo dawg, I heard you like paying for seats...
 
2014-01-02 08:51:01 AM  

EngineerAU: The NFL has been very good at widening its fan base but those new fans are fickle. The core fans have been treated badly in favor of the corporate crowd who sees athletic events as a fun backdrop for meetings. Too many tickets are bought up in huge blocks and get handed out as employee rewards or as kickbacks to vendors. They've used pink shoes to try to get more casual female fans and endless marketing tricks to get tepid fans to tune in. But that support is a mile wide and an inch deep. These new fans are starting to get bored and are looking for the next entertainment fix. The NFL and it's cronies in the stadium replacement business have built up based on an ever increasing fan base. They're not set up for a return to the old mostly blue collar crowd. They need millions of eyes on the tv that are starting to get fatigued and they need corporate expense accounts covering the cost of attending games. They have built a league that can't go back to its blue collar roots. Financially they're not designed for it and from the perspective of the longtime fans, the league has told them to go away, they want the yuppie purchasing manager to buy their tickets. The hardcore fans will stay since they'll put up with almost any abuse but they're not enough to support the overbuilt overpriced monstrosity the NFL has become.

The NFL is in overshoot. They probably have another five years before everything really starts to fall apart. But like most organizations in severe overshoot, they're not going to realize what is going on until it's way too late to do anything about it.


So you're saying the NFL went full NASCAR?

/Never go full NASCAR
 
2014-01-02 08:52:55 AM  
One can forgive Packers fans, because they didn't know they were even going to be in the playoffs until the last week.

Bengals and Colts fans, who had their divisions locked up for weeks? No. Farking. Excuse.
 
2014-01-02 08:54:30 AM  

pueblonative: /we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched


The NFL organization is non-profit.  Even though you can't fathom how it works, it's still non-profit.
 
2014-01-02 08:55:58 AM  

MugzyBrown: pueblonative: /we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched

The NFL organization is non-profit.  Even though you can't fathom how it works, it's still non-profit.


I know exactly how it works.  The organization itself doesn't turn a profit for tax reasons.  The money just gets bled out into the pockets of all the executives.
 
2014-01-02 08:57:39 AM  

Muta: It is more fun to watch at home.  You get a better view of the action at home, the food and beer are cheaper and there's is no standing in 2 inches of urine when you've got to take a piss.


Beg to differ. Watching football on TV is boring as sh*t. I'd rather be there or just listen on the radio - and by radio, I mean stream over the internet.
 
2014-01-02 09:02:36 AM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?


0/10

Go home. You know, like your shiatty team
 
2014-01-02 09:09:57 AM  

RedPhoenix122: MugzyBrown: pueblonative: /we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched

The NFL organization is non-profit.  Even though you can't fathom how it works, it's still non-profit.

I know exactly how it works.  The organization itself doesn't turn a profit for tax reasons.  The money just gets bled out into the pockets of all the executives.


Yep.  Mugsy is right.  You can't fathom how it works.
 
2014-01-02 09:10:45 AM  

RedPhoenix122: I know exactly how it works.  The organization itself doesn't turn a profit for tax reasons.  The money just gets bled out into the pockets of all the executives.


No, the money goes to the franchises.  Don't worry, there are lots and lots of taxes being paid.
 
2014-01-02 09:11:29 AM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?


It was Boykin, not Cobb.

And do you know what you call a division champion team that loses in the first round of the playoffs? Division Champions.
 
2014-01-02 09:11:43 AM  

RedPhoenix122: MugzyBrown: pueblonative: /we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched

The NFL organization is non-profit.  Even though you can't fathom how it works, it's still non-profit.

I know exactly how it works.  The organization itself doesn't turn a profit for tax reasons.  The money just gets bled out into the pockets of all the executives.


I don't think I've ever seen someone white knight the NFL as an organization.

It amazes me that you can still possibly defend them as a non-profit, when the entire league (and Goodell's tenure) has been about increasing revenue. Sure, fine, technically the parent organization of the teams is a "non-profit", but when the ENTIRE PURPOSE of that organization is to increase revenue for its' owners and teams, how could you possibly see their status as anything but a scam?
 
2014-01-02 09:13:09 AM  

starlost: a blackout won't be as bad as years ago. now with streaming from overseas unless no one in the fan group knows how to do it or has a decent speed internet connection they will be able to make do. i'm disappointed here in the usa the sports channels plan to carry few world cup soccer matches. my dad and i are retired and we are going to stream every time they are on. we'd have bought a soccer package in a instant.


What? ESPN is showing every single match on one channel or another
 
2014-01-02 09:13:25 AM  
Wow.  Just because your quarterback is gay is no reason not to go to the game.
 
2014-01-02 09:14:42 AM  

IlGreven: One can forgive Packers fans, because they didn't know they were even going to be in the playoffs until the last week.

Bengals and Colts fans, who had their divisions locked up for weeks? No. Farking. Excuse.


I don't think Colts fans give the team much chance, and Cincy fans are cheap.
 
2014-01-02 09:14:45 AM  

under a mountain: I'm surprised about Green Bay, considering this is a fan base dumb enough to buy worthless shares just so they can call themselves "share holders".


That's funny.
My "worthless share" was gifted to me a few years ago by a Bears fan.

/Thanks Lenny
//Go Pack
 
2014-01-02 09:15:03 AM  

Muta: It is more fun to watch at home.  You get a better view of the action at home, the food and beer are cheaper and there's is no standing in 2 inches of urine when you've got to take a piss.


I enjoy watching games at home, but I much prefer being at Saints games than just watching them. The game atmosphere at the dome can't be beat, and I don't have to listen to awful FOX announcers.
 
2014-01-02 09:16:27 AM  

thecpt: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

0/10

Go home. You know, like your shiatty team


5/10 I don't think that was even close to trolling and it still got a bite.
 
2014-01-02 09:22:26 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."


Wait a second.  That's not what my buddy who owns our season tickets is telling me.  You were only charged for the first game?

How much are the tickets if (in the extremely unlikely event) that the Eagles host the NFC championship game?
 
2014-01-02 09:23:31 AM  

grinding_journalist: It amazes me that you can still possibly defend them as a non-profit, when the entire league (and Goodell's tenure) has been about increasing revenue. Sure, fine, technically the parent organization of the teams is a "non-profit", but when the ENTIRE PURPOSE of that organization is to increase revenue for its' owners and teams, how could you possibly see their status as anything but a scam?


The profits go to the teams.  They are the ones who pay the income taxes.

The NFL is just the front for the teams which are all, technically, individual businesses.
 
2014-01-02 09:24:48 AM  
The Giants made the playoffs during the Jim Fassel years one year after it looked like they wouldn't. It was the "putting all my chips on the table" season. Anyway, things were not looking good earlier in the season, so a ton of season tickerholders didn't even bother applying for playoff tickets, which wound up going on sale to the general public.

I wound up scoring tickets for the Giants/Eagles game that was easily the best time I've ever had a sporting event. Awesome experience.

Before the game, they're playing the usual "pump up the crowd" stuff on the jumobtron. Our seats were right next to a second of Eagles fans. Basically the only Eagles fans there were all in one section, upper deck in the corner. They're showing these pump-up videos and the last one is a clip from Rocky. Rocky is running through the streets, they're playing the music. The Eagles fans are loving. They're all, "Look at this! These dumbass Giants don't even know that Rocky is a Philadelphia thing! This is great! Go Rocky! E-A-G-L-" *SMASH* A giant foot comes down and smashes Rocky as he gets to the top of the steps. The crowd EXPLODED. I mean, people went nuts like we just scored. High fives all around. The Eagles section had the wind knocked out of them. It was hilarious.

Next thing you know, Ron Dixon returns opening kick 97-yards for a touchdown with the already pumped-up crowd taking it to a whole other level. Insane stuff. To this day, I'll insist that that return happened 75% because of that video.

/also the game where Jason Sehorn did this.
 
2014-01-02 09:27:31 AM  

Warlordtrooper: INeedAName: tommyl66: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

/I miss Foxboro Stadium

Honestly, they should make it an absolute luxury experience, but then drop the price to a ridiculously low level. Going to the stadium needs to be a better football experience than playing at home, or stadiums will eventually be worthless.

The crackdown on binge drinking also helps ruin the experience


You can still binge drink and go to games. Unless you can't handle your alcohol, and at that point I'm glad they get kicked out.

It's the little things that add up to me. Used to be able to pull into the lot an hour before it "opened" and get a spot on the edge at the treeline. Even hold a few spots for people coming in when the lot actually opens. You could spread out and nature's bathroom is right there, nice. Now everything is paved and marked, and you have to stay in your space and no, you and three of your buddies can't park next to each other so you can have a decent tailgate. The walk into the stadium used to be decent, a short wait in line but they had it figured out. Now you need to budget an extra 45 minutes to get through because a brand new stadium only has four entrances to it. Time to run to the bathroom? See you next quarter, unless you're a woman in which case you have 4 empty bathrooms that are all yours. Home team is in a tough spot and could use some help from the crowd! But where is everybody in the middle section? Oh, those are luxury suites so they're all inside watching the game on TV...
 
2014-01-02 09:29:52 AM  

JerseyTim: This is great! Go Rocky! E-A-G-L-" *SMASH* A giant foot comes down and smashes Rocky as he gets to the top of the steps. The crowd EXPLODED. I mean, people went nuts like we just scored. High fives all around. The Eagles section had the wind knocked out of them. It was hilarious.


Wow.  I had always figured Giants fans were simple-minded.  Thanks for the evidence.


FWIW, I recall they were playing the Rocky theme for some reason in the stadium during the timeout before  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjbBvJHsIko
 
2014-01-02 09:34:32 AM  
I live in walking distance of a mlb stadium and an NFL stadium. I go to 5 tO ten baseball games a year. I go to a NFL game about every. Years when I get invited by someone. I can get baseball tickets for around 10. I think some are only 7. Even after a few beers its easy for a couple to get a fun game for 60 or so. the best tickets are around 60 each I think.

The football ones start in the 70s and go into the 200 plus range. Tack on that same 40 or so for a few drinks and its a 200 to 500 event. I actually like football better, they just priced me out. ITs not that much funner for me to be there to justify that much money. I think I am kind of in the majority of this. I know a few folks who have cancelled season tickets this season, its just getting rediculously expensive for an entertainment option. You can take an actual decent vacation for what a lot of the season tickets cost.
 
2014-01-02 09:34:56 AM  
I find it hard to believe that the Packers game won't be sold out.  Even in lean years every game has been sold out.
 
2014-01-02 09:36:32 AM  
MugzyBrown:
FWIW, I recall they were playing the Rocky theme for some reason in the stadium during the timeout before  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjbBvJHsIko

It always amuses me when other teams play anything from Rocky when they're playing the Philadelphia Eagles.
 
2014-01-02 09:38:24 AM  
JerseyTim: \

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4z_-uo1ncE

Watching Couglin throw down his clipboard was the funniest thing about that video.
 
2014-01-02 09:39:48 AM  

BunkyBrewman: It always amuses me when other teams play anything from Rocky when they're playing the Philadelphia Eagles.


Rocky (the fights shown in the movies) had a losing record.

Rocky:  loss
Rocky II:  loss
Rocky III: loss/win
Rocky IV: win
Rocky V:  DNF
Rocky Balboa:  loss

That's a 2-4 record.
 
2014-01-02 09:41:12 AM  

mjbok: BunkyBrewman: It always amuses me when other teams play anything from Rocky when they're playing the Philadelphia Eagles.

Rocky (the fights shown in the movies) had a losing record.

Rocky:  loss
Rocky II:  loss
Rocky III: loss/win
Rocky IV: win
Rocky V:  DNF
Rocky Balboa:  loss

That's a 2-4 record.


You're posting the record of a fictional boxer?  Congrats.  You must be from ohio.
 
2014-01-02 09:41:27 AM  

mjbok: Rocky (the fights shown in the movies) had a losing record.


He won Rocky 2.
 
2014-01-02 09:44:03 AM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?


Actually that was Boykin, Mr. Sour Grapes. And even with slim chances in the playoffs, I much prefer ending the season with a division championship and a win over a rival than having them shiat the bed like da bears

/going to the game. Free tickets
 
d3
2014-01-02 09:47:56 AM  

eagles95: Nadie_AZ: eagles95: E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again

This is the real reason I don't think people want to go.

But stranger things have happened. Your team might be getting hot at the right time.

Oh hell no....they need to get shredded so we get the rotting corpse of Dom Capers fired as DC


And now the real reason this bandwagon fan doesn't want to go to the game. He's scared. What is different about DC's defense from the SB 3 years ago to now? His scheme hasn't changed, his calling and aggressiveness haven't really changed, but the players have. He's making due with no true outside linebacker now that Matthews is hurt. His big men in the middle are either hurting or out and the safeties can't figure out how to keep themselves in position to make a play on the deep ball. DC is the same coach who got us some awesome defensive plays in the SB, he isn't the problem, the players aren't making the plays.

$120/ticket is nothing. I live in Maryland and tickets to the GB/Ravens game were going to cost $200/seat in the nose bleed section of the end zone because of scalpers and the fact the Ravens were defending SB champs. I'd gladly watch a Packers playoff game in the stadium if it didn't mean spending 3x as much on airfare as the ticket cost. How are you going to feel if they win on Sunday and had the chance to be there but skipped? I'm going to wish I'd found a deal on plane tickets myself. Every time I meet someone who was at the "Ice Bowl" gets a special gleam in their eye when they tell about it. You won't ever get that from watching on TV.
 
2014-01-02 09:50:22 AM  
Sounds like a lot of delicate men here don't want to actually go to the game and prefer to watch it on TV in their slippers and jammies.

There is a lot to be said for seeing a game live.

For starters it is like golf - a chance to get out of the house for the day with a set recreational agenda. Tailgating, watching the game, a few beers after.

Secondly although you may not get to see every replay broken down by the TV talking heads, typically you can see a lot more at a game than on TV - you usually have a view of the entire field and can look where you want rather than where the director thinks is important.

Finally the atmosphere at a live game is second to none. The crowd noise, the obnoxious high fiving of those in the seats around you as the team does something impressive...all good stuff.

I guess it depends on your perspective. If you are not a fan of either team then I understand not wanting to take time other than watching the game. The best way to do that in my experience is to start the DVR at kickoff and jump in about 1.25 hours in to the game. Fast forward all the commercials and the game is much more watchable and doesn't carve out an entire afternoon / evening.

But if you want to, you know, cheer for your team. Really much more fun to be there. Even if you have to wear a ski mask and stuff heated insoles into your shoes.
 
2014-01-02 09:53:08 AM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?


I like the cut of your jib.
 
2014-01-02 09:54:15 AM  

Big 900: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

Actually that was Boykin, Mr. Sour Grapes. And even with slim chances in the playoffs, I much prefer ending the season with a division championship and a win over a rival than having them shiat the bed like da bears

/going to the game. Free tickets


At least you didn't shiat the bed and the walls and the ceiling like the lions.

/Lions fan
//So glad Schwartz is gone
 
2014-01-02 10:02:31 AM  
Boykin, Cobb, whatever.
 
2014-01-02 10:03:26 AM  

MmmmBacon: This is pretty much what St. Louis goes through every week in the regular season, fans that won't attend the games in person. Good thing the Rams will be coming back to LA, after the 2014 season.


So we should keep selling the place out after 10 straight losing seasons (including stuff like 1-15 and 2-14.)
 
2014-01-02 10:03:36 AM  

JerseyTim: The Giants made the playoffs during the Jim Fassel years one year after it looked like they wouldn't. It was the "putting all my chips on the table" season. Anyway, things were not looking good earlier in the season, so a ton of season tickerholders didn't even bother applying for playoff tickets, which wound up going on sale to the general public.

I wound up scoring tickets for the Giants/Eagles game that was easily the best time I've ever had a sporting event. Awesome experience.

Before the game, they're playing the usual "pump up the crowd" stuff on the jumobtron. Our seats were right next to a second of Eagles fans. Basically the only Eagles fans there were all in one section, upper deck in the corner. They're showing these pump-up videos and the last one is a clip from Rocky. Rocky is running through the streets, they're playing the music. The Eagles fans are loving. They're all, "Look at this! These dumbass Giants don't even know that Rocky is a Philadelphia thing! This is great! Go Rocky! E-A-G-L-" *SMASH* A giant foot comes down and smashes Rocky as he gets to the top of the steps. The crowd EXPLODED. I mean, people went nuts like we just scored. High fives all around. The Eagles section had the wind knocked out of them. It was hilarious.

Next thing you know, Ron Dixon returns opening kick 97-yards for a touchdown with the already pumped-up crowd taking it to a whole other level. Insane stuff. To this day, I'll insist that that return happened 75% because of that video.

/also the game where Jason Sehorn did this.


I watched that game with my grandmother. After that play, I told her that he was married (or engaged, whatever) to the woman from Law & Order (Grandma got me hooked on Law & Order in the early 90s). She didn't seem to care one way or the other. He goes over to the sidelines and takes off his helmet. Grandma said, "You didn't tell me he was white!"
 
2014-01-02 10:03:45 AM  

UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

I've been to two NFL games in my life, one in Charlotte and one in Cincy.  Both times it was because a friend was generous enough to give us tickets.  If I lived much closer than four hours away from the nearest NFL stadium, it might be different...but I sure as hell wouldn't spend ~$75 per ticket, ~$30 per person in concessions, and (in the case of Charlotte) ~$10 to park anywhere in sight of the stadium.  And that's for the  regularseason; I'm sure the ticket prices for the playoffs are way above and beyond that.  Mrs. Samurai and I were aghast when we saw the face value of the tickets to the Cincy-Cleveland game (still had an amazing time, thanks MJ!), and there's just us; if we had a kid or two, it just wouldn't be feasible.  And we're certainly not alone.

/I gotta give Cincinnati/Newport a shout-out, though; aside from the in-stadium costs, that area is wonderful, plenty of food and shopping, and you can park for $3 at the aquarium and ride the ferry across the river.


You got off cheap, most stadiums are more expensive.

But then I remember somewhere that Carolina is like 3rd cheapest tickets.
 
2014-01-02 10:03:56 AM  

AntonChigger: Big 900: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

Actually that was Boykin, Mr. Sour Grapes. And even with slim chances in the playoffs, I much prefer ending the season with a division championship and a win over a rival than having them shiat the bed like da bears

/going to the game. Free tickets

At least you didn't shiat the bed and the walls and the ceiling like the lions.

/Lions fan
//So glad Schwartz is gone


Yeah, it mostly makes up for getting smoked on Thanksgiving. That was definitely ugly.
 
2014-01-02 10:04:52 AM  
My Vikings playoff tickets are cheap. Nonexistence costs nothing.
 
2014-01-02 10:06:18 AM  

sammyk: Decisions decisions, do I spend $200+ per ticket for nose bleed seats where I can barely see the jumbotron or do I watch the game on my 60" plasma with the surround sound that can make the house sound like the stadium? Do I wait in a long line to piss or walk down the hall? Overpriced half warm beer with a limited selection or my sweet holiday ale home brew that will be ready just in time? $8 hotdogs or filet mignon on the grill? Boy this is a hard choice.


You don't have any of those things. Except the hall
 
2014-01-02 10:06:27 AM  

INeedAName: tommyl66: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

/I miss Foxboro Stadium

Honestly, they should make it an absolute luxury experience, but then drop the price to a ridiculously low level. Going to the stadium needs to be a better football experience than playing at home, or stadiums will eventually be worthless.


What killed the NFL's stadium experience was HDTV and the networks scrambling to make everything HD.  Why pay for lousy seats, overpriced food and some leatherlunged asshole drunk out of his gourd when you can sit on your couch in front of a 40-60" HDTV with all the food and drink you want to consume and the only leatherlunged assholes in attendance are your friends.
 
2014-01-02 10:09:56 AM  

starlost: a blackout won't be as bad as years ago. now with streaming from overseas unless no one in the fan group knows how to do it or has a decent speed internet connection they will be able to make do. i'm disappointed here in the usa the sports channels plan to carry few world cup soccer matches. my dad and i are retired and we are going to stream every time they are on. we'd have bought a soccer package in a instant.


Well when the games barely receive an MLB level rating in the states and the world cup people won't lower their demand for premium pricing you can't blame the stations. Blame world cup organizers who won't lower their prices to get into the most lucrative market, sure there are fewer in the states but we buy crap like crazy.

Personally I would just rather have rugby matches shown since there's more action in those.
 
2014-01-02 10:10:18 AM  

Big 900: AntonChigger: Big 900: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

Actually that was Boykin, Mr. Sour Grapes. And even with slim chances in the playoffs, I much prefer ending the season with a division championship and a win over a rival than having them shiat the bed like da bears

/going to the game. Free tickets

At least you didn't shiat the bed and the walls and the ceiling like the lions.

/Lions fan
//So glad Schwartz is gone

Yeah, it mostly makes up for getting smoked on Thanksgiving. That was definitely ugly.


Whadya talking about?  That was a great game :)
 
2014-01-02 10:11:34 AM  
The NFL will not allow playoff games to get blacked out. They'll buy as many tickets as they have to themselves.

But yeah, games have just been priced out of people's budgets, and all the stadium policies and the shiat you have to put up with. Blackout threat or no blackout threat, playoffs or no playoffs, eventually people simply do not have the money anymore to show up.
 
2014-01-02 10:13:23 AM  

mjbok: I find it hard to believe that the Packers game won't be sold out.  Even in lean years every game has been sold out.


I think it is a combination of the cost, timing and temperature.

The cost is an obvious one, but the timing isn't good. A month ago, when the people put their playoff ticket request in, they had to pay for their deposit up front as well. If the Packers hadn't made the playoffs, instead of getting the money back, they just get credited to next season's ticket cost. A month ago people thought the Packers had a snowballs chance in hell of making it, so not many people put in a request.

The temperature Sunday, in Green Bay is a high of 0 and a low of -18. That is without the wind chill.
 
2014-01-02 10:14:33 AM  
Hi guys.

For those of you not attending this game in person and for whatever reason unable watch it on TV, rejoice, for I have pre-created the matchup in XOR NFL Challenge, a simulation known to predict the future with 127% accuracy.  To enhance your viewing experience I also added Bruckner's 4th symphony as the soundtrack.

Er, one caveat, though - I only changed the 49ers roster, not the Packers.  Sorry, it took like an hour and a half to even do that much.
 
2014-01-02 10:17:27 AM  

jayhawk88: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

See I don't necessarily think it's the price....tickets are expensive but they've been expensive for 25 years. It's just that fans now prefer the comforts of home/their den, to all the hastle involved in going to a game. You go to an NFL game, it's an all day thing. You watch at home, it's ~3 hours and you've still got the rest of the day to watch another game or play with the kids or whatever.


Its been more recent the uptick of the prices, its like the NBA, who used to have affordable tickets but now unless you pay $50+ you will be sitting in the bleachers near the rafters. Wanna sit near the court? $75-175 at the cheap places, fark that shiat.
 
2014-01-02 10:21:41 AM  
I'm not sure how it works fort the packers, but for the giants and jets, there are a huge unsold number of tickets for every game. The reason it doesn't result in blackouts is because they have a huge number of the seats classified as luxury seats, which don't count against you for "sellout" purposes.

Before the new stadium, the wait list for season tickets for either team was on the order of decades. People would fight over the rights in court when someone died. Now they run commercials touting how great seats are still available.
 
2014-01-02 10:21:54 AM  

Lawnchair: tommyl66: Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

My local MLS stadium is all whizz-banged out with all that tech-stuff. The cheaper seats are still in the $30-$35 range and parking is free.


There's a reason for that, nobody wants to go for a higher price or if they can't afford the game and parking.
 
2014-01-02 10:22:52 AM  

BunkyBrewman: You're posting the record of a fictional boxer? Congrats. You must be from ohio.


Philadelphia looks at Rocky as a hero...and as you pointed out, he is fictional.  Congrats on that.

MugzyBrown: He won Rocky 2.


Ugh, don't know how I screwed that one up.
 
2014-01-02 10:23:30 AM  

machoprogrammer: mjbok: I find it hard to believe that the Packers game won't be sold out.  Even in lean years every game has been sold out.

I think it is a combination of the cost, timing and temperature.

The cost is an obvious one, but the timing isn't good. A month ago, when the people put their playoff ticket request in, they had to pay for their deposit up front as well. If the Packers hadn't made the playoffs, instead of getting the money back, they just get credited to next season's ticket cost. A month ago people thought the Packers had a snowballs chance in hell of making it, so not many people put in a request.

The temperature Sunday, in Green Bay is a high of 0 and a low of -18. That is without the wind chill.


At game time, Weather Underground says it ought to be 1 degree and a wind chill of around -16.

But let's put it this way. Monday in Milwaukee, the wind chill is supposed to get into -40, -45. I checked the wind chill at about 1:30 AM last night in Alert, Nunavut. It was -43. That's what's on our mind right now up here. Literally, without hyperbole, Arctic conditions.
 
2014-01-02 10:26:51 AM  
The NFL is also pushing retractable roofs/domes where they can get away with it. They sell it part and parcel with the SB hosting carrot. Last Colts playoff game I went to was 2009 AFC CG. I think those tickets were just north of $100 in the nose bleeds, so they weren't *too* bad except I was pretty poor at the time. However between the hotel, tickets, refreshments, and some other stuff, I think my buddies and I stayed south of $200 apiece, so it wasn't all that bad. Weather was nice enough we could tailgate in the parking lot too. I've been to sporting events in pretty cold weather and I've sat in a deer stand for 8 hours in 15 degree weather doing nothing, so cold weather isn't too much of a killer for me. However I'd be pretty hard pressed to want to go to the GB game this weekend, even if I got free tickets (also not a Packers fan so there's that).

I've gone to a bunch of Bulls games and Pacers games, when back in Indy, the last few years and it's a lot more affordable. I realize the relative scarcity of NFL games drives the prices up, but like many others here have said, the NFL is really pricing a lot of fans, especially middle class ones, out of tickets. It's easier now to just wait for them to hit the secondary market and grab ones where you want. You can upgrade or downgrade based on opponent.

Also NFL owners, get rid of the preseason "tax" and quit forcing people to put up 2 games worth of money in MID DECEMBER to guarantee playoff tickets. I know some teams don't do that but many do. A few of my buddies didn't buy playoff tickets because they didn't want to spend a thousand dollars in the middle of xmas season, knowing that they wouldn't get an immediate refund if the Colts didn't get a 2nd home game. That money would have been applied to next year's season tickets.
 
2014-01-02 10:34:11 AM  

italie: Going to be like fifty-below in Green Bay this weekend. Can't say I'd want a $300 ticket to sit in that.


Exactly.
 
2014-01-02 10:34:27 AM  
Sissies! The lot of youse. Poor sissies at that.

Vince Lombardi would be rolling over in his grave.
 
2014-01-02 10:38:15 AM  
They're giving away a couple of playoff tickets to the Green Bay game where I work.  Checked the forecast.  NO THANK YOU!
 
2014-01-02 10:38:53 AM  

machoprogrammer: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

It was Boykin, not Cobb.

And do you know what you call a division champion team that loses in the first round of the playoffs? Division Champions.


They should put an asterisk by the Eagles and Green Bay's Division Champions record like this -- *of truly crappy division.  Are you really proud that Green Bay beat out Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago?
 
2014-01-02 10:39:14 AM  

chachi88: Sissies! The lot of youse. Poor sissies at that.

Vince Lombardi would be rolling over in his grave.


You mean Mr. "Run It And Let's Get The Hell Out Of Here"?
 
2014-01-02 10:39:27 AM  

mjbok: BunkyBrewman: You're posting the record of a fictional boxer? Congrats. You must be from ohio.

Philadelphia looks at Rocky as a hero...and as you pointed out, he is fictional.  Congrats on that.

MugzyBrown: He won Rocky 2.

Ugh, don't know how I screwed that one up.


No. We think Rocky is a good tourist draw for people from Ohio.
 
2014-01-02 10:39:58 AM  

fonebone77: They should put an asterisk by the Eagles and Green Bay's Division Champions record like this -- *of truly crappy division.  Are you really proud that Green Bay beat out Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago?


Considering the NFL has about 5 good teams, all of the divisions are pretty crappy.
 
2014-01-02 10:40:37 AM  
My girlfriend's dad has tickets in row 2 for the Packers game that he's trying to sell.

/no, he won't give them to us
 
2014-01-02 10:51:45 AM  

VvonderJesus: My girlfriend's dad has tickets in row 2 for the Packers game that he's trying to sell.

/no, he won't give them to us


Because he's under the impression they're valuable.

I never knew season ticket holders had to pay for playoff tickets in advance like that, never cared enough to get season tickets. I bet the owners love it since that means they have all that cash sitting in the bank earning them interest for 7-8 months.
 
2014-01-02 10:52:01 AM  
I live in Green Bay and will be at the game on Sunday. Despite the cold, the atmosphere at a playoff game is pretty hard to beat.

/Was at 2007 NFC title game at Lambeau too w/-20 windchill.
//Colder than a sorceress's teat etc. etc.
///Bleed green and gold.
 
2014-01-02 10:53:11 AM  

jayhawk88: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

See I don't necessarily think it's the price....tickets are expensive but they've been expensive for 25 years. It's just that fans now prefer the comforts of home/their den, to all the hastle involved in going to a game. You go to an NFL game, it's an all day thing. You watch at home, it's ~3 hours and you've still got the rest of the day to watch another game or play with the kids or whatever.


Exactly. The last time I went to an NFL game was '98 or '99. Tickets at the top of Mt. Davis back then were about $60 or so. At least Oakland has that Bart stop at the stadium and the weather is usually pleasant. Of course, there is also Raiders fans.

Even 15ish years ago, the product was best consumed at home and that was before everyone had a flat screen with HD. Add in Sunday Ticket and Red Zone and it really has become even better for the fans to stay at home.

//buddy is a Raiders fan and we made a couple of trips from So Cal to Oakland for the Raiders-Broncos game.
//he was pissed off at the Bay Area Raiders fans on the BART that day. The Broncos won a close game and all we heard on the train was "at least the 49ers lost". For a guy raised on the LA Raiders he couldn't believe they cared more about the 49ers losing than the Raiders losing to their rivals.
 
2014-01-02 10:53:26 AM  

fonebone77: machoprogrammer: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

It was Boykin, not Cobb.

And do you know what you call a division champion team that loses in the first round of the playoffs? Division Champions.

They should put an asterisk by the Eagles and Green Bay's Division Champions record like this -- *of truly crappy division.  Are you really proud that Green Bay beat out Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago?


Honestly yes, better than listening to Bear fan all offseason crow about it. And to whomever mentioned it, HDTV is mostly to blame for this in Green Bay. I used to live 5 blocks from the stadium so i get the fan experience. But I'm not down with getting frostbite.

/CSB: NFL did blackout Packers home playoff game in 1982
 
2014-01-02 10:56:58 AM  

BunkyBrewman: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."

Wait a second.  That's not what my buddy who owns our season tickets is telling me.  You were only charged for the first game?

How much are the tickets if (in the extremely unlikely event) that the Eagles host the NFC championship game?


You had the opportunity to give a credit card number to be charged when the playoffs were achieved OR you could pay everything up-front. It was your choice. Your buddy might have gone with the latter just to have things paid for and the money collected before things even started. Did you get actual physical tickets or print-at-home? I had to do print-at-home with my option. My upper-deck seats ($75 regular season face) are $95 for Saturday and would be $175 for the NFC title game.
 
2014-01-02 10:57:26 AM  

pueblonative: //anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched


The NFL is an association of 32 for-profit tax paying franchises. The "NFL Headquarters" is a very small corporate office that handles things like the schedule, etc and it is a non-profit association entity.
 
2014-01-02 11:00:50 AM  

eagles95: fonebone77: machoprogrammer: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?

It was Boykin, not Cobb.

And do you know what you call a division champion team that loses in the first round of the playoffs? Division Champions.

They should put an asterisk by the Eagles and Green Bay's Division Champions record like this -- *of truly crappy division.  Are you really proud that Green Bay beat out Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago?

Honestly yes, better than listening to Bear fan all offseason crow about it. And to whomever mentioned it, HDTV is mostly to blame for this in Green Bay. I used to live 5 blocks from the stadium so i get the fan experience. But I'm not down with getting frostbite.

/CSB: NFL did blackout Packers home playoff game in 1982


Yeah don't listen to asterisk dude. He's an idiot. The Colts backed into the playoffs at 8-4 because the Broncos crushed the Titans. The Colts were in the middle of being destroyed by the Cardinals, Bengals, and Rams iirc. The Colts went 6-0 against probably the weakest division in football. I'm glad they won the division. Now they are hosting a football game they have a pretty good chance at winning. I'll take a 50% chance or better at 2 extra games than the team sitting at home during the playoffs.
 
2014-01-02 11:02:47 AM  
The price is obviously a big part why I don't go to too many live sporting events, but so is the fact that half the people in the stadium have to decided to get completely shiat-faced. I mean, seriously, when did we all start thinking

Person A: "Hey, I got tickets to the big game!"
Person B: "Super, I'll go get a keg for the two of us!"
 
2014-01-02 11:05:04 AM  

under a mountain: I'm surprised about Green Bay, considering this is a fan base dumb enough to buy worthless shares just so they can call themselves "share holders".

What does the NFL expect?  Attending a football game is boooorrring.  Kill about half the TV timeouts, and the tortureous replay rule time outs, and you might have an interesting live experience.


So you'd kill TV (where they make 85% of their revenue) to moderately increase the live experience?
 
2014-01-02 11:07:34 AM  

Gosling: The NFL will not allow playoff games to get blacked out. They'll buy as many tickets as they have to themselves.


Neither will the local network affiliates.  For years the local affiliates in KC would guarantee to purchase any unsold tickets needed to lift the blackout so they could get the ratings and commercial sales.
 
2014-01-02 11:08:00 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: BunkyBrewman: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).

I'm impressed with the way they handled it this year -- my tickets for my season ticket seats for Saturday are only $20 over regular season face value AND for the first time the team is charging season ticket holders on an "as we make it" basis instead of "just give us $1,000 and if we don't make the playoffs or we flame out in the first game then billionaire owner Jeff Lurie would be HAPPY to hold onto all the money as a credit towards next season."

Wait a second.  That's not what my buddy who owns our season tickets is telling me.  You were only charged for the first game?

How much are the tickets if (in the extremely unlikely event) that the Eagles host the NFC championship game?

You had the opportunity to give a credit card number to be charged when the playoffs were achieved OR you could pay everything up-front. It was your choice. Your buddy might have gone with the latter just to have things paid for and the money collected before things even started. Did you get actual physical tickets or print-at-home? I had to do print-at-home with my option. My upper-deck seats ($75 regular season face) are $95 for Saturday and would be $175 for the NFC title game.


that would explain things. thank you for the explanation
 
2014-01-02 11:16:12 AM  
In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years
 
2014-01-02 11:23:07 AM  

eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years


They kind of had to do it, and I'm sure there's no way the Bears end up paying for all 7 years, but holy crap..can you imagine 37 year old Jay Cutler in 2020, Favre'ing his way to 18-35, 235 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT games?
 
2014-01-02 11:26:12 AM  

eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years


As much as they probably ended up overpaying, they didn't have much of an option. This is a non-exhaustive list of who else was available:

McCown - Bears backup did great, but 34 and wants to retire soon
Vick - ex-con benched for performance, injury prone, kinda old
Schaub - completely Delhommed and tanked the Texans; probably completely shot, kinda old
Cousins - Looked good 2 years ago, not good this year, pretty much a crapshoot
Mallett - Been a brady backup for the last few years, total crapshoot
Sanchez - butt fumble and a bad QB
Freeman (probably available) - Great two years ago, horrible this year, not a Schiano man

I mean looking at this list, the only real option for me would be Freeman if he hits the market. Nothing else would be worth investing in long term and has at least a modicum of productivity in the NFL.
 
2014-01-02 11:29:16 AM  

redmid17: Vick - ex-con benched for performance, injury prone, kinda old


Vick lost his job to a hammy injury and because Foles played lights-out..not really due to performance.

/So glad he's finally (almost) gone
 
2014-01-02 11:30:19 AM  

TheLopper: The price is obviously a big part why I don't go to too many live sporting events, but so is the fact that half the people in the stadium have to decided to get completely shiat-faced. I mean, seriously, when did we all start thinking

Person A: "Hey, I got tickets to the big game!"
Person B: "Super, I'll go get a keg for the two of us!"


This started at least 40 years ago, from what I can tell. Although you still get beer spilled on you, at least you aren't surrounded by chain smokers anymore.
 
2014-01-02 11:32:18 AM  

pueblonative: MmmmBacon: Problem is, as awesome as watching at home can be, if people all start staying home, then the television broadcasts will eventually go to pay-per-view, rather than free networks. Especially the playoffs. So while I'm perfectly happy to stay at home (my team is not even in the playoffs, and about 2000 miles away), I think fans should support their team if they can and attend in person.

Yeah cause it's not like they're supporting them with stadium subsidies and tax write offs.

/we need to look at the NFL's tax status
//anybody who can say with a straight face that the NFL is a non profit organization or a trade association deserves to be cockpunched
///look at their anti-trust exemption too


You seriously need to stop misunderstanding how the NFL is setup.  Every individual team is a separate for profit company and they are taxed accordingly.

The only non-profit part is Goodell and his minions (IE the middle-men not affiliated w/ any team).
 
2014-01-02 11:36:10 AM  

MugzyBrown: redmid17: Vick - ex-con benched for performance, injury prone, kinda old

Vick lost his job to a hammy injury and because Foles played lights-out..not really due to performance.

/So glad he's finally (almost) gone


Probably a bit harsh since he started out the season well, but he also fell into a tailspin the few weeks before he was injured.
 
2014-01-02 11:37:12 AM  

eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years


They want a guy with a strong arm to throw to those huge wideouts.
 
2014-01-02 11:41:56 AM  
Also....who wants Josh McCown? Bidding starts at a 2nd round pick...Looking at you, Oakland!
 
2014-01-02 11:42:15 AM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Boykin, Cobb, whatever.


I know it's tough to remember who is who since they're both quick shifty guys with numbers between 10 and 20. Let me help.

Boykin (#11): Picked up the Rodgers fumble after everyone was standing around picking their asses and brought it in for a score.

Cobb (#18)
 
2014-01-02 11:44:53 AM  
Reminder: I'm doing a FARK NFL.Com Playoff Perfect challenge group

Group name: fark da Shanaclan
password: farkistan

Putting this link in all the NFL threads before the games start on Saturday

I'm playing NFL Fantasy Playoff Challenge, come and join my Group! http://t.co/PWEmEVMUrl
- Lost Limey (@lost_limey) January 2, 2014
 
2014-01-02 11:48:35 AM  

BunkyBrewman: No. We think Rocky is a good tourist draw for people from Ohio.


It's not.  Nothing is a tourist draw to Philly.
 
2014-01-02 11:50:15 AM  

mjbok: BunkyBrewman: No. We think Rocky is a good tourist draw for people from Ohio.

It's not.  Nothing is a tourist draw to Philly.


I would think the $5 entry fee on the PA turnpike would make them think twice
 
2014-01-02 11:51:43 AM  
redmid17:Freeman (probably available) - Great two years ago, horrible this year, not a Schiano man

Oh, sing us a song, you're the Schiano man... sing us a song tonight!

/Probably been done.
 
2014-01-02 11:57:18 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Maybe if NFL tickets weren't so ungodly expensive more people might be able to buy them.


I went to the Chiefs @ Redskins game this year solely because the tickets were free. It was 200 level seatin sonder the overhang to avoid getting snowed on. Face price was circa $120. Didn't buy beer, concessions or merchandise as didn't want to give Dan Snyder more revenue than he'd already gotten for the tickets. I did laugh that they were selling 10o hot chocolates for $6 a cup (snow game, after all) and how the PA guy was trying to get teh fans to make some noise despite a) the Redskins being blown out by 30+ points and b) the lowest ever attendance at FedExField (y'all saw the empty stadium picture. I'm actually still there then...)

I do like the live game experience, but I wouldn't ever pay more than $60 a pop for the seat I was in. And the NFL experience is purely built for TV at this point, so it's hardly surprising that more people opt for warm houses, cheap beer and better food at home, and just have friends over if they want a social atmosphere.
 
2014-01-02 11:57:43 AM  

eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years


If this is a back loaded contract with little guaranteed money, I'm OK with this.
 
2014-01-02 12:03:50 PM  
Philadelphia is actually a world class city but keep up the irrational hatred. We feed on it. Go Iggles.
 
2014-01-02 12:05:31 PM  

Lutwidge: Hi guys.

For those of you not attending this game in person and for whatever reason unable watch it on TV, rejoice, for I have pre-created the matchup in XOR NFL Challenge, a simulation known to predict the future with 127% accuracy.  To enhance your viewing experience I also added Bruckner's 4th symphony as the soundtrack.

Er, one caveat, though - I only changed the 49ers roster, not the Packers.  Sorry, it took like an hour and a half to even do that much.


That was interesting.
 
2014-01-02 12:05:40 PM  

This Looks Fun: redmid17:Freeman (probably available) - Great two years ago, horrible this year, not a Schiano man

Oh, sing us a song, you're the Schiano man... sing us a song tonight!

/Probably been done.


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/30/5242342/sing-us-a-song-youre- th e-schiano-man

I thought I saw this earlier than the 30th, but here it is.
 
2014-01-02 12:11:42 PM  
redmid17:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/12/30/5242342/sing-us-a -song-youre- th e-schiano-man

Well ok then. Been done better! Thanks!
 
2014-01-02 12:17:34 PM  

steamingpile: jayhawk88: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

See I don't necessarily think it's the price....tickets are expensive but they've been expensive for 25 years. It's just that fans now prefer the comforts of home/their den, to all the hastle involved in going to a game. You go to an NFL game, it's an all day thing. You watch at home, it's ~3 hours and you've still got the rest of the day to watch another game or play with the kids or whatever.

Its been more recent the uptick of the prices, its like the NBA, who used to have affordable tickets but now unless you pay $50+ you will be sitting in the bleachers near the rafters. Wanna sit near the court? $75-175 at the cheap places, fark that shiat.



It's $110 per ticket for nosebleed seats at Lambeau this Sunday.  And if I can convince my wife, I'm gonna go.  I guarantee it sells out.  I bet part of the reason it hasn't so far is lots of fans like me didn't bother even looking because it's impossible to get Packers tickets.  The only way you can get in is if you go to a crappy preaseason game.
 
2014-01-02 12:19:03 PM  
FWIW, I got my ticket for Sunday on Ticketmaster at face value.  $122 to be on the ten yard line, twelfth row.  I've been to a lot of games at Lambeau, but this is the closest I've ever been to the field.  Can't wait.  Now, off to Fleet Farm for some Smartwool™ socks and hand/foot warmers.
 
2014-01-02 12:23:25 PM  

lennavan: steamingpile: jayhawk88: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

See I don't necessarily think it's the price....tickets are expensive but they've been expensive for 25 years. It's just that fans now prefer the comforts of home/their den, to all the hastle involved in going to a game. You go to an NFL game, it's an all day thing. You watch at home, it's ~3 hours and you've still got the rest of the day to watch another game or play with the kids or whatever.

Its been more recent the uptick of the prices, its like the NBA, who used to have affordable tickets but now unless you pay $50+ you will be sitting in the bleachers near the rafters. Wanna sit near the court? $75-175 at the cheap places, fark that shiat.

It's $110 per ticket for nosebleed seats at Lambeau this Sunday.  And if I can convince my wife, I'm gonna go.  I guarantee it sells out.  I bet part of the reason it hasn't so far is lots of fans like me didn't bother even looking because it's impossible to get Packers tickets.  The only way you can get in is if you go to a crappy preaseason game.


My guess is weather-related, not lack of interest. Plenty of people don't want to suffer the cold for a long-shot game (even though the line is close +-3).

/will be there
//section 736s
 
2014-01-02 12:29:20 PM  

Scaevola: FWIW, I got my ticket for Sunday on Ticketmaster at face value.  $122 to be on the ten yard line, twelfth row.  I've been to a lot of games at Lambeau, but this is the closest I've ever been to the field.  Can't wait.  Now, off to Fleet Farm for some Smartwool™ socks and hand/foot warmers.



Have fun.
 
2014-01-02 12:41:02 PM  

IlGreven: One can forgive Packers fans, because they didn't know they were even going to be in the playoffs until the last week.

Bengals and Colts fans, who had their divisions locked up for weeks? No. Farking. Excuse.


The Bengals clinched their division in week 16, so it's not like that gave them a ton of extra time to sell tickets. Couple that with the fact that Christmas and New Year's both fell in that timespan, plus the fact that they had to spend a lot of energy trying to sell out the final home game in week 17 and I think it's pretty excusable.

The Bengals have actually done a really good job finding a price point that works for fans in the area. They've got prices the last couple of seasons despite the playoff appearances (which is typically the opposite of what happens) and they've put together a decent little sell-out streak. Honestly if it were up to the Bengals to set playoff prices this wouldn't be an issue, but the NFL sets the prices and it's blowing up in their faces at the moment.

Here in Cincinnati they're calling for a rain-to-snow mix with temperatures starting in the 30s and dropping from there. That's not as bad as what Green Bay is expected to get but it's not exactly appealing weather to go sit in for 3+ hours. It's not like they can expect to sell any tickets to visiting fans either because nobody from San Diego is going to fly cross country for that. Compare that to Indy, where the game will be inside and I would anticipate lots of Chiefs fans making the trip... but still no sell out.

As for Philly, if you knew there'd be 4 games played on a weekend and they'd be in Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Green Bay, and Philadelphia it's pretty obvious which would sell out first. No real surprise there.

/Have my tickets.
//WHO DEY!
 
2014-01-02 12:43:14 PM  
I think the tides are turning and pro sports will be facing a big problem. With $100 tickets, $20 parking, $10 beers and $7 sodas they've pushed the average person too far.
 
2014-01-02 12:45:59 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?


Why would a Packers fan wish the Bears had won? So the Bears could make the playoffs instead? I don't get it.
 
2014-01-02 12:48:59 PM  

poughdrew: eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years

If this is a back loaded contract with little guaranteed money, I'm OK with this.


Hmm, $17.6M, $50M guaranteed.  F-that.
 
2014-01-02 12:49:06 PM  
I went to the Packer, Lions game where the Lions clinched 0-16. Looked up the weather, and it only got down to 22, but the wind was fierce. I probably wouldn't go to a playoff game as there is no way I could get all of the people that I watch the games with there too, but I have been to 2 games at GB, and there is no way I'd pay to go to any NFL stadium. Baseball, on the other hand, it is on my bucket list to make it to every MLB field. 2 and counting. Well, 3, including County Stadium, but that would count the Brewers twice. Chavez Ravine is a giant toilet full of Dodgers.
 
2014-01-02 12:49:56 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: Why would a Packers fan wish the Bears had won? So the Bears could make the playoffs instead? I don't get it.


The thought is that by missing the playoffs they would avoid being embarrassed by the 9ers.  Of course Bears fans know all about being embarrassed after the Philly game the week prior.
 
2014-01-02 12:50:15 PM  

mjohnson71: I think the tides are turning and pro sports will be facing a big problem. With $100 tickets, $20 parking, $10 beers and $7 sodas they've pushed the average person too far.


I want to believe, but I feel like I read this every year. The problem is not simply the stadium prices. The problem is the TV experience is just superior in every way (including price). Not to mention, avoiding obnoxians, crowds, bathrooms, seeing the other football games, post-game traffic. There is nothing but upside to enjoying the game at home or in your favorite townie bar.
 
2014-01-02 12:50:43 PM  

Oliver Twisted: Wow.  Just because your quarterback is gay is no reason not to go to the game.


Perhaps, but his center is feeling nervous.
 
2014-01-02 12:52:02 PM  
I'm trying to figure out who would buy them from the teams anyways at the moment.  At least for the bengals, stub hub is reselling starting around $70 and they are $86 from the team.
 
2014-01-02 12:52:39 PM  

roc6783: County Stadium


Man...  I miss that dump.  You needed a tetanus shot just to watch a game there.

/RIP Gray Lady.
 
2014-01-02 12:56:35 PM  

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Philadelphia is actually a world class city but keep up the irrational hatred. We feed on it. Go Iggles.


Now that right there is funny.
 
2014-01-02 12:59:31 PM  

poughdrew: poughdrew: eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years

If this is a back loaded contract with little guaranteed money, I'm OK with this.

Hmm, $17.6M, $50M guaranteed.  F-that.


Its about what Stafford makes, unless you wanna roll the dice on some rookie drafting you aren't getting a QB as good as Cutler for less than that

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/92548/nfl-nation-says-qb -b ang-for-buck
 
2014-01-02 01:04:55 PM  

ShadowKamui: Its about what Stafford makes, unless you wanna roll the dice on some rookie drafting you aren't getting a QB as good as Cutler for less than that


I would take Stafford any day of the week over Cutler, plus Stafford has his best years in front of him, I doubt that Cutler does.
 
2014-01-02 01:07:39 PM  

redmid17: A few of my buddies didn't buy playoff tickets because they didn't want to spend a thousand dollars in the middle of xmas season, knowing that they wouldn't get an immediate refund if the Colts didn't get a 2nd home game. That money would have been applied to next year's season tickets.


Strange, it used to be that way five or six years ago.  For us (Seahawks) you don't pay till they play.  I had to reserve my tickets back in November but it wasn't till this week that I had a charge show up on my card.

And how much are their regular season tickets?  Divisional round of the playoffs is only about 1.35x more expensive than my regular season ticket.
 
2014-01-02 01:11:04 PM  

ShadowKamui: poughdrew: poughdrew: eagles95: In the meantime, Bears just resigned Smokin Jay for 7 more years

If this is a back loaded contract with little guaranteed money, I'm OK with this.

Hmm, $17.6M, $50M guaranteed.  F-that.

Its about what Stafford makes, unless you wanna roll the dice on some rookie drafting you aren't getting a QB as good as Cutler for less than that

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/92548/nfl-nation-says-qb -b ang-for-buck


And they'd have really no one to overpay this offseason anyway. I suppose they could go with McCown short term, but if he started tailing off Emery would be excoriated for it. Frankly outside of one *amazing* playoff run and some durability issues, this situation really isn't much different than Flacco's.  His cap hit is a bit less per year and has 2 million or so less in guaranteed money. Seems pretty reasonable to me once you realize that any semi-good QB is going to get overpaid by his team in order to keep him.
 
2014-01-02 01:14:03 PM  

stappawho: redmid17: A few of my buddies didn't buy playoff tickets because they didn't want to spend a thousand dollars in the middle of xmas season, knowing that they wouldn't get an immediate refund if the Colts didn't get a 2nd home game. That money would have been applied to next year's season tickets.

Strange, it used to be that way five or six years ago.  For us (Seahawks) you don't pay till they play.  I had to reserve my tickets back in November but it wasn't till this week that I had a charge show up on my card.

And how much are their regular season tickets?  Divisional round of the playoffs is only about 1.35x more expensive than my regular season ticket.


It wasn't the cost of the tickets as much as how many they had. One guy has four tickets. The other guy has 3 slightly better tickets. As far as the pay up or pay later option, I'm pretty sure the team has the discretion on how to implement it. The Colts just forced it. Apparently, per my friend's text, they needed to pay up in full for both games by Dec 12.
 
2014-01-02 01:19:40 PM  

eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia


This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.
 
2014-01-02 01:19:44 PM  
Don't really remember County Stadium (only went to 3 or so games from age 6 to 9, then none from 9 to 16 when it was torn down), but since 2006 I have been to near 100 games at Miller Park, including all of the playoff games. That was a freaking marathon, but sooo worth it.
 
2014-01-02 01:29:52 PM  

greentea1985: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.


They banned seat cushions?  This I didn't know.  But I think if you are wearing 20 layers of clothes, you could smuggle in a seat cusion.
 
2014-01-02 01:30:00 PM  
Here's a Buster Olney retweet: "imagine the "baseball is dying" narratives if 75% of LDS games didn't sell out"

...uh, half of LDS games already don't sell out. Especially if the Braves and Rays are hosting.
 
2014-01-02 01:30:11 PM  

redmid17: It wasn't the cost of the tickets as much as how many they had. One guy has four tickets. The other guy has 3 slightly better tickets. As far as the pay up or pay later option, I'm pretty sure the team has the discretion on how to implement it. The Colts just forced it. Apparently, per my friend's text, they needed to pay up in full for both games by Dec 12.


The prepaying for playoffs tickets has been around forever, and isn't unique to football. The damn met's would do it back in the late 90s.

Only then they would make you pay for all 3 series upfront and, assume that each series would go the maximum number of home games possible, and would want the money in early september when there was still a good shot they wouldn't even make the playoffs. There was one season where my post season package cost more than my regular season one, and they didn't make the playoffs. They would sit on it as a "credit" towards next year, and getting your money back meant writing a letter and waiting 6 months.
 
2014-01-02 01:32:04 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?


Well seeing the Bears just signed Jay Cutler I have a feeling Bears fans won't get the last laugh.

(btw, I was born in Appleton, live in Neenah) :-)
 
2014-01-02 01:33:09 PM  
Build a dome, you psychos
 
2014-01-02 01:35:30 PM  

mjbok: SkittlesAreYum: Why would a Packers fan wish the Bears had won? So the Bears could make the playoffs instead? I don't get it.

The thought is that by missing the playoffs they would avoid being embarrassed by the 9ers.  Of course Bears fans know all about being embarrassed after the Philly game the week prior.


I see. That's a pretty sad attitude - I might lose, therefore I don't want a chance at winning.
 
2014-01-02 01:38:47 PM  

under a mountain: greentea1985: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.

They banned seat cushions?  This I didn't know.  But I think if you are wearing 20 layers of clothes, you could smuggle in a seat cusion.


It was a big issue during the offseason this year. The NFL has banned all bags, purses etc that are not 1 gallon and clear (of course while selling handy clear gallon bags with team logos) as well as seat cushions. It was a wonderful way to give the middle finger to all of the female fans they worked so hard to get, fans who take public transit from work or to a tailgate, and all of the fans of teams with outdoor stadiums (particularly Bears, Packers, Steelers, Bengals, Giants and Jets fans). The NFL is going out of its way to drive away all of its fans by making the stadium experience miserable.
 
2014-01-02 01:50:40 PM  

greentea1985: under a mountain: greentea1985: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.

They banned seat cushions?  This I didn't know.  But I think if you are wearing 20 layers of clothes, you could smuggle in a seat cusion.

It was a big issue during the offseason this year. The NFL has banned all bags, purses etc that are not 1 gallon and clear (of course while selling handy clear gallon bags with team logos) as well as seat cushions. It was a wonderful way to give the middle finger to all of the female fans they worked so hard to get, fans who take public transit from work or to a tailgate, and all of the fans of teams with outdoor stadiums (particularly Bears, Packers, Steelers, Bengals, Giants and Jets fans). The NFL is going out of its way to drive away all of its fans by making the stadium experience miserable.


They drove me off by making the home viewing experience too expensive. I was ok with Sunday Ticket at $99/season, but that was never enough for the NFL. Got tired of being at the bars on Sunday mornings. Now I barely watch NFL at all. I used to be pretty die-hard about NFL, but don't care much anymore.
 
2014-01-02 01:56:42 PM  

mjbok: ShadowKamui: Its about what Stafford makes, unless you wanna roll the dice on some rookie drafting you aren't getting a QB as good as Cutler for less than that

I would take Stafford any day of the week over Cutler, plus Stafford has his best years in front of him, I doubt that Cutler does.


Most people would, but that isn't an option for the Bears right now. Chicago remembers the McNown/Grossman/Kordell Stewart era all to well, they're skittish about taking changes with QBs.

mjbok: SkittlesAreYum: Why would a Packers fan wish the Bears had won? So the Bears could make the playoffs instead? I don't get it.

The thought is that by missing the playoffs they would avoid being embarrassed by the 9ers.  Of course Bears fans know all about being embarrassed after the Philly game the week prior.


No Bears fans with more than 2 brain cells would expect anyone to hope for a loss to avoid embarrassment, that dude is talking nonsense. But it isn't an exclusive club, the Packers D is about on par which Chicago's and lost to Detroit by 30 a month ago.

/I'll blasphemously root for Green Bay on Sunday b/c I hate 49ers organization/coach
 
2014-01-02 02:07:11 PM  

Electromax: /I'll blasphemously root for Green Bay on Sunday b/c I hate 49ers organization/coach


I rooted for the Bears (shudder) in their last SB appearance solely because I wanted Manning to lose.

Electromax: No Bears fans with more than 2 brain cells would expect anyone to hope for a loss to avoid embarrassment, that dude is talking nonsense. But it isn't an exclusive club, the Packers D is about on par which Chicago's and lost to Detroit by 30 a month ago.


The last time I felt the Packers didn't belong in the playoffs they won the SB.  The Packers D is terrible, but the awful weather should make it a closer game. 

stewbert: I was ok with Sunday Ticket at $99/season, but that was never enough for the NFL.


The best deal ever was the Madden special edition for $80 this last season, because it came with Sunday ticket for free.  Sold the game for $50, so it was $30 for the entire year.  Much more reasonable than the $300 plus Directv now asks for.
 
2014-01-02 02:14:23 PM  
I miss red zone already. Football with commercials? Ugh.
 
2014-01-02 02:15:25 PM  

Vodka Zombie: roc6783: County Stadium

Man...  I miss that dump.  You needed a tetanus shot just to watch a game there.

/RIP Gray Lady.


Seconded. And $4 seats in the outfield.
 
2014-01-02 02:18:50 PM  

Cheesehead_Dave: Also: A big plus of living in Kenosha is if the game does get blacked out, I'll just pull it from WFLD instead.


That has to be the  only advantage of living in Kenosha.
 
2014-01-02 02:37:49 PM  

greentea1985: under a mountain: greentea1985: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.

They banned seat cushions?  This I didn't know.  But I think if you are wearing 20 layers of clothes, you could smuggle in a seat cusion.

It was a big issue during the offseason this year. The NFL has banned all bags, purses etc that are not 1 gallon and clear (of course while selling handy clear gallon bags with team logos) as well as seat cushions. It was a wonderful way to give the middle finger to all of the female fans they worked so hard to get, fans who take public transit from work or to a tailgate, and all of the fans of teams with outdoor stadiums (particularly Bears, Packers, Steelers, Bengals, Giants and Jets fans). The NFL is going out of its way to drive away all of its fans by making the stadium experience miserable.


There is an exemption for Lambeau, as it is all bleachers. A seat that meets certain requirements (max size, no armrests or compartments, etc) can still be brought in. Used mine at the Detroit game this year.
 
2014-01-02 02:49:03 PM  

greentea1985: under a mountain: greentea1985: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.

They banned seat cushions?  This I didn't know.  But I think if you are wearing 20 layers of clothes, you could smuggle in a seat cusion.

It was a big issue during the offseason this year. The NFL has banned all bags, purses etc that are not 1 gallon and clear (of course while selling handy clear gallon bags with team logos) as well as seat cushions. It was a wonderful way to give the middle finger to all of the female fans they worked so hard to get, fans who take public transit from work or to a tailgate, and all of the fans of teams with outdoor stadiums (particularly Bears, Packers, Steelers, Bengals, Giants and Jets fans). The NFL is going out of its way to drive away all of its fans by making the stadium experience miserable.


It would appear that the terrorists have actually won.
 
2014-01-02 02:51:11 PM  

Big 900: greentea1985: under a mountain: greentea1985: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.

A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again


Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia

This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.

They banned seat cushions?  This I didn't know.  But I think if you are wearing 20 layers of clothes, you could smuggle in a seat cusion.

It was a big issue during the offseason this year. The NFL has banned all bags, purses etc that are not 1 gallon and clear (of course while selling handy clear gallon bags with team logos) as well as seat cushions. It was a wonderful way to give the middle finger to all of the female fans they worked so hard to get, fans who take public transit from work or to a tailgate, and all of the fans of teams with outdoor stadiums (particularly Bears, Packers, Steelers, Bengals, Giants and Jets fans). The NFL is going out of its way to drive away all of its fans by making the stadium experience miserable.

There is an exemption for Lambeau, as it is all bleachers. A seat that meets certain requirements (max size, no armrests or compartments, e ...


I didn't know that Lambeau managed to get an exception. It still sucks for all of the other cold-weather outdoor stadiums. Still, the NFL has made the experience of going to a stadium miserable and expensive when compared to watching it at home, a very dumb move.
 
2014-01-02 03:02:26 PM  

born_yesterday: Yeah. It ain't the weather, it's the prices, the surly cursing drunks, and the prices.


Plus I think that every time we hear about some violence among the fans after a game, it dampens enthusiasm. I don't want to get stabbed in the parking lot or hit over the head with something and end up in a coma.

I've only been to two games in my life, even though I live near both the 49ers and the Raiders, because of all you said and the potential for violence, especially in Oakland.

I was given tickets to two games at Candlestick but I would have turned down free Raiders tickets because I won't go to Oakland.
 
2014-01-02 03:07:39 PM  
In 50 years, football stadiums will be like live studio audiences; free entry just to make the TV product more enjoyable.
 
2014-01-02 03:18:19 PM  
In addition to sitting in the cold and snow for hours, many people have to drive for hours in it to get to the game as well, making the experience even more miserable. I mean, the Seahawks game is already sold out, but I might've tried to go if I thought there was a good chance I'd actually be able to make it through the passes.

/of course, when you have HFA and can only really afford to go once, there's this conundrum: See this week's game, knowing you'll either see a loss (sucks) or that your team will have another home game that now you won't be able to afford, or gamble that you'll make it to the next game and try to get to that one
 
2014-01-02 03:24:36 PM  
All of this brings up an interesting question of what will happen with the Superb Owl.  If the weather is crappy (sub-zero, snow, etc) as I hope it is, will there be a problem filling the stadium in Jersey?  Imagine a KC/Seattle SB.  Not big, marquee teams.  Terrible weather.  It could be (hopefully would be) a disaster for the NFL.
 
2014-01-02 03:26:56 PM  

Scaevola: Vodka Zombie: roc6783: County Stadium

Man...  I miss that dump.  You needed a tetanus shot just to watch a game there.

/RIP Gray Lady.

Seconded. And $4 seats in the outfield.


$3 gen admission on Tuesday nights with a neck label from Henri's salad dressing when I was in Madison in the mid-90s.  My buddy Tim and I went every chance we got--never had more fun at a major league ballpark.
 
2014-01-02 03:29:16 PM  

mjbok: All of this brings up an interesting question of what will happen with the Superb Owl.  If the weather is crappy (sub-zero, snow, etc) as I hope it is, will there be a problem filling the stadium in Jersey?  Imagine a KC/Seattle SB.  Not big, marquee teams.  Terrible weather.  It could be (hopefully would be) a disaster for the NFL.


The only people that would hurt are scalpers
 
2014-01-02 03:31:13 PM  

Dogpants: $3 gen admission on Tuesday nights with a neck label from Henri's salad dressing when I was in Madison in the mid-90s. My buddy Tim and I went every chance we got--never had more fun at a major league ballpark.


There was something awesomely low-rent about County Stadium.  It fit the Brewers perfectly.  Can't afford to keep Molitor and Yount?  Check. Get rid of Molitor (who will win a championship elsewhere).  Have a slugger with a drinking problem?  Check.  Have a 2nd baseman with less than 10 career home runs?  Check (might be slight exaggeration, but not much of one).

The ending of that saga was perfect as Bud Selig tried to blackmail the public into a new stadium (remember the Charlotte Brewers threats?), having it voted down, only to have a local politician institute it anyway costing him his job, but not saving the taxpayers money.
 
2014-01-02 03:32:54 PM  

ElwoodCuse: The only people that would hurt are scalpers


Economically sure, but from a PR standpoint empty seats at the SB would not bode well for the NFL.  You have to remember this is an organization that raised prices on SB tickets solely because of what scalpers are getting for them in the secondary market.
 
2014-01-02 03:35:55 PM  
My SIL works for the team so tickets are never an issue, but I really do like Miller Park, despite the character I have been told it lacks, the tickets can always be had cheap if you look, and there is no bad seat in the place. One of the worst seats is actually in the on field section in right. Great food, but it is awful for actually seeing the game.
 
2014-01-02 03:50:24 PM  

robbiex0r: My guess is weather-related, not lack of interest. Plenty of people don't want to suffer the cold for a long-shot game (even though the line is close +-3).


Could be.  I'd think people in Wisconsin are up for it.  As I said before, I'm sure it will sell out.

Scaevola: Vodka Zombie: roc6783: County Stadium

Man...  I miss that dump.
 You needed a tetanus shot just to watch a game there.

/RIP Gray Lady.
Seconded. And $4 seats in the outfield.


They used to have $1 bleacher days.  When I was a kid I went there with $5 and bought my ticket, a soda and a hot dog and I had money left over.  Never seen the Packers play at Lambeau but I did see them play the Vikings at County Stadium.  That was awesome.
 
2014-01-02 03:51:02 PM  

Gosling: The NFL will not allow playoff games to get blacked out. They'll buy as many tickets as they have to themselves.

But yeah, games have just been priced out of people's budgets, and all the stadium policies and the shiat you have to put up with. Blackout threat or no blackout threat, playoffs or no playoffs, eventually people simply do not have the money anymore to show up.


So because of the policies and actions of some businesses, other businesses are losing money. Hmmm.  I wonder if the losing business will do something about it with their vast stores of wealth? After all, the NFL can't offshore.

Since the 90's with offshoring and downsizing, this situation was entirely predictable, but no one has done anything about it. Now that people in America don't have the money to spend on things like tickets to games, what will those corporations that can't offshore do? Will they settle for less and less money because their customers have less and less to spend? Or will there be a backlash? Will it suddenly become politically expedient to stop the "sochalizms" and "class warfare" bullshiat and start trying to fix the income inequality in this country?

No one will do it because it is the right thing to do, but they might do it because it is finally hitting their bottom line.
 
2014-01-02 04:09:52 PM  
Ouch, the Colts just got a second extension to sell their tickets and they have 3,000 left to sell to avoid a blackout. I'm half-hoping at least one of the games does get blacked out, just to force the NFL to re-evaluate all of their recent cash grabs.
 
2014-01-02 04:12:51 PM  
The wife and I try to get to a game every third season or so, just to have the experience. Too expensive to justify going more often than that, when we can watch at home for free or drop $30 on food and booze for the family at the local.

/Not really that much of an experience.
//Probably take the kid to a couple of college games, when she's old enough.
 
2014-01-02 04:32:44 PM  
I just go to the Stadium for other events and watch the games at home. I like it much better that way.
 
2014-01-02 04:35:48 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The only one that's sold-out is the Eagles game (so far).


The tickets to the Panthers game on 12-Jan went on sale yesterday, and sold out in 3 minutes.
 
2014-01-02 04:37:36 PM  

greentea1985: Ouch, the Colts just got a second extension to sell their tickets and they have 3,000 left to sell to avoid a blackout. I'm half-hoping at least one of the games does get blacked out, just to force the NFL to re-evaluate all of their recent cash grabs.


Living in Chicago, I'm luckily going to be able to watch it no matter what. If I hadn't just dropped some serious coin on xmas and a vacation in 4 weeks, then I would definitely be going to the game. As it is, I'm likely going to have set up a Slingbox or something similar for my parents if the game gets blacked out locally.
 
2014-01-02 04:43:18 PM  

lennavan: It's $110 per ticket for nosebleed seats at Lambeau this Sunday. And if I can convince my wife, I'm gonna go. I guarantee it sells out. I bet part of the reason it hasn't so far is lots of fans like me didn't bother even looking because it's impossible to get Packers tickets. The only way you can get in is if you go to a crappy preaseason game.


I just wouldnt do it, as most probably wouldnt but then I hate the cold, being raised in the south will do that to you.
 
2014-01-02 05:12:48 PM  
GB/SF on schedule to be 3rd coldest game in NFL history.

//2nd place is Ice Bowl
//Wisconsin-Arctic in January, Tropic in July
 
2014-01-02 05:16:43 PM  

MmmmBacon: This is pretty much what St. Louis goes through every week in the regular season, fans that won't attend the games in person. Good thing the Rams will be coming back to LA, after the 2014 season.


No, we don't want the Rams back.

You know what LA doesn't have to deal with? Blacked out playoff games. Well, maybe if the Chargers host a game, but who cares about that? :P
 
2014-01-02 05:17:03 PM  

robbiex0r: GB/SF on schedule to be 3rd coldest game in NFL history.

//2nd place is Ice Bowl
//Wisconsin-Arctic in January, Tropic in July


back to potential arctic. My grandpa played a football game in late august where it snowed 6". Don't recall the name of the town, but he said it was about an hour north of Madison. Would have been in the early 40s or so.
 
2014-01-02 05:21:24 PM  

tenton: No, we don't want the Rams back.


Statements like that is why LA doesn't deserve an NFL team.
 
2014-01-02 05:48:24 PM  

redmid17: robbiex0r: GB/SF on schedule to be 3rd coldest game in NFL history.

//2nd place is Ice Bowl
//Wisconsin-Arctic in January, Tropic in July

back to potential arctic. My grandpa played a football game in late august where it snowed 6". Don't recall the name of the town, but he said it was about an hour north of Madison. Would have been in the early 40s or so.


Stevens Point?
 
2014-01-02 05:52:22 PM  

robbiex0r: redmid17: robbiex0r: GB/SF on schedule to be 3rd coldest game in NFL history.

//2nd place is Ice Bowl
//Wisconsin-Arctic in January, Tropic in July

back to potential arctic. My grandpa played a football game in late august where it snowed 6". Don't recall the name of the town, but he said it was about an hour north of Madison. Would have been in the early 40s or so.

Stevens Point?


That might be it. Definitely fits the bill distance-wise.
 
2014-01-02 06:10:15 PM  

tommyl66: UNC_Samurai: One wonders if the NFL is fully aware of just how much they've priced themselves out of most people's budgets.

Nope, the NFL is more concerned with what doohickeys they can add to the "in-stadium experience" to justify the cost of the tickets. Hey, how about we put fantasy stats and WiFi in the stadium? Or personal wireless device connectors at every seat? How about more music and sound effects between every play?

/I miss Foxboro Stadium


I do a little, but I really like the new stadium.

What I really miss is being in the Garden and feeling the building sway
 
2014-01-02 06:28:56 PM  
Lennavan, highly recommend going to Lambeau just for the experience at least once
 
2014-01-02 08:20:19 PM  
I grew up out by wittenberg, went to high school at everest, and college at stevens point, and i can confirm there are recorded instances of snow on the ground in september, not all terribly rare.
 
2014-01-02 08:33:06 PM  
So long as the puppy bowl isn't blacked out.   http://animalplanet.com/puppybowl

/also, get in on the fantasy puppy bowl action!
//get well Michael Schumacher!
 
2014-01-02 08:51:27 PM  

mjbok: tenton: No, we don't want the Rams back.

Statements like that is why LA doesn't deserve an NFL team.


Perfectly content with no team in l.a. Unless the owner is willing to foot the bill for the entire stadium the nfl can go fark itself. Taxpayers should not be expected to pay for billionaires toys.
 
2014-01-02 09:02:44 PM  
and there should not be any such thing as a 'blackout'
 
2014-01-02 09:44:51 PM  

xaks: and there should not be any such thing as a 'blackout'


I'm probably going to have one after the game...maybe during
 
2014-01-02 11:26:36 PM  

mrmyxolodian: Cheesehead_Dave: Also: A big plus of living in Kenosha is if the game does get blacked out, I'll just pull it from WFLD instead.

That has to be the  only advantage of living in Kenosha.


Youse guys still gots the Brat Stop don't youse?
 
2014-01-03 01:43:10 AM  
fonebone77: machoprogrammer: antidisestablishmentarianism: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.
A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again
Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia
I"m not a Packer fan at all but my wife and kid are and we live in Appleton. Even as a Bears fan I have considered taking advantage of the cheap tickets for Sunday's game and taking them to the game and I will sit there in my Bears gear and smile as I watch the 49ers destroy the Packers at home. Betcha wish Cobb hadn't picked up that ball off the ground now don't ya?
It was Boykin, not Cobb.
And do you know what you call a division champion team that loses in the first round of the playoffs? Division Champions.
They should put an asterisk by the Eagles and Green Bay's Division Champions record like this -- *of truly crappy division.
Are you really proud that Green Bay beat out Minnesota, Detroit, and Chicago?


Yes. Yes I am.

Go PACKERS!
!!!!!!

/I'm in Acapulco, Mexico and will be watching the game at a sweet little bar on the beach.....
 
2014-01-03 01:57:07 AM  

stewbert: greentea1985: under a mountain: greentea1985: eagles95: As a Packer fan no longer living in Green Bay I can say that there would be 0% chance I would go to this game if I still lived there.
A) Below zero temps at game time while sitting on a metal bleacher
B) Snow the day before so metal bleacher is snow covered
C) Every fat ass in the stadium wearing 50 layers of clothes to stay warm so you barely have your 4 inches of seat space
D) Overpriced EVERYTHING
E) Our defense getting shredded by 49ers again
Seriously NFL, why would I go when i have normal priced beer, brats, 50+in HD tv with heat in my house if I live in GB? Want a fan experience? Invite friends over and chant Go Pack Go. Better than hypothermia
This is why it was a dumb decision by the NFL to ban seat cushions. At a game like the upcoming Packers one (or had the Bears actually made the playoff, sigh) cushions are a god-send because they let you sit on cold, recently snowed on seats comfortably. However, the NFL wants to gouge the fans for everything they are worth. Over-priced tickets, parking, concessions, and a chilly ass to boot.
They banned seat cushions?  This I didn't know.  But I think if you are wearing 20 layers of clothes, you could smuggle in a seat cusion.
It was a big issue during the offseason this year. The NFL has banned all bags, purses etc that are not 1 gallon and clear (of course while selling handy clear gallon bags with team logos) as well as seat cushions. It was a wonderful way to give the middle finger to all of the female fans they worked so hard to get, fans who take public transit from work or to a tailgate, and all of the fans of teams with outdoor stadiums (particularly Bears, Packers, Steelers, Bengals, Giants and Jets fans). The NFL is going out of its way to drive away all of its fans by making the stadium experience miserable.
They drove me off by making the home viewing experience too expensive. I was ok with Sunday Ticket at $99/season, but that was never enough ...



irst fay
ow ray
orts spay
otday
omcay
 
2014-01-03 02:04:47 AM  

robbiex0r: GB/SF on schedule to be 3rd coldest game in NFL history.

//2nd place is Ice Bowl
//Wisconsin-Arctic in January, Tropic in July



yes. I was back in WIsco for the first time in 7 years this past July, and as I was driving from Milwaukee to Green Bay (for the Shareholders meeting) I was wondering 'WHY don't I live here again?!?!?'  Then I remembered.
Winter.
 
2014-01-03 04:17:28 PM  
Playoffs or not, the current NFL stadium experience sucks diarrhetic ass. Stadiums that have regular seats jam them so close together that I have to become a double amputee to sit there. An overpriced-everything zone that begins at the bars and parking lots within a couple of miles of the stadium. Entry procedures that make a trip to county jail look like a church visit. Pay-or-I'll-move-the-team-to-L.A. tax ripoffs.

Blecch. And to think I love this game. Just not enough to submit myself to their torture-in-a-bowl.
 
Displayed 202 of 202 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter





In Other Media


Report