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(The Atlantic)   Saving the dying art of, um...talking and stuff   (theatlantic.com) divider line 39
    More: Interesting, Boylston Street, Sherry Turkle, social environment  
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2014-01-01 10:53:47 PM  
NO U!
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-01-01 10:58:49 PM  
Bite me!
 
2014-01-01 11:44:56 PM  
Admiral is derived from the Arabic Emir
 
2014-01-02 12:09:55 AM  

VelcroFez: Admiral is derived from the Arabic Emir


Thanks, Cliffy.
 
2014-01-02 01:07:23 AM  
So's your face!
 
2014-01-02 03:28:37 AM  

HawgWild: So's your face!


Your mom's face maybe!
 
2014-01-02 03:28:39 AM  
imageshack.us
 
2014-01-02 03:29:12 AM  
tl;dr
 
2014-01-02 03:30:38 AM  
Worlds Worst Ad Campaign:

IF You're lacking... in... self... confiden...

www.oocities.org
 
2014-01-02 03:47:14 AM  
Ah yes, this article again from that one person who can't keep up.
 
2014-01-02 03:50:37 AM  
If you're having trouble communicating, try a typewriter. They beat the hell out of cursive writing.
 
2014-01-02 03:53:24 AM  
FTA :

As we chat, it becomes clear that Turkle is not just not boring-she's an exceptionally skilled conversationalist. After tea, we take a walk around her Back Bay neighborhood. Throughout our conversation, she occasionally touches my forearm. She speaks deliberately, pausing often. She laughs easily and heartily, a sign more of her warmth than of my wit. She has at her disposal what the best conversationalists have: a wealth of experience to draw from.

www.movieactors.com


"A bit verbose!"
 
2014-01-02 03:54:55 AM  

Point02GPA: If you're having trouble communicating, try a typewriter. They beat the hell out of cursive writing.


What's cursive writing?
 
2014-01-02 04:08:10 AM  
The data are everywhere: The pair of high-school-age girls walking down Boylston Street, silent, typing.

Yeah right. I wish. The little vixens never stop with the yappin'.
 
2014-01-02 04:10:37 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Worlds Worst Ad Campaign:

IF You're lacking... in... self... confiden...

[www.oocities.org image 223x199]


He should have been on the American Version of Whose Line.
 
2014-01-02 04:10:47 AM  

robohobo: Point02GPA: If you're having trouble communicating, try a typewriter. They beat the hell out of cursive writing.

What's cursive writing?


It's whatfarkshiat people without Tourettei'vekilledbeforeandi'lldoitagain Syndrome callingallguards writing. Balls.
 
2014-01-02 04:15:20 AM  

robohobo: Point02GPA: If you're having trouble communicating, try a typewriter. They beat the hell out of cursive writing.

What's cursive writing?


Writing that has curves...sort'a sexy letters. You can all most masturbate to some peoples B's.
 
2014-01-02 04:16:20 AM  
Do they even teach kids to write in cursive anymore? Also on one hand I feel left out from all the people sitting and clicking on their phones constantly but on the other I'm glad I'm not a phone zombie.
 
2014-01-02 04:18:47 AM  
OMG, The author forgot about texting and stuff.  OMG!
 
2014-01-02 04:22:08 AM  
I spend nearly all of my time in public trying to unhook bras with my mind. Not much time left over for anything else.
 
2014-01-02 04:23:04 AM  

A Terrible Human: DarkSoulNoHope: Worlds Worst Ad Campaign:

IF You're lacking... in... self... confiden...

[www.oocities.org image 223x199]

He should have been on the American Version of Whose Line.


Alot of them should have been in addition to Steve Frost. Tony Slattery, Paul Merton, Josie Lawrence (much more often than two episodes), Steven Fry, and Mike McShane (shocked that Mike didn't go on the US version of whose line, but I guess that was to honor his friend Tony who got blacklisted due to his mental problems :( )
 
2014-01-02 04:24:33 AM  

A Terrible Human: Do they even teach kids to write in cursive anymore? Also on one hand I feel left out from all the people sitting and clicking on their phones constantly but on the other I'm glad I'm not a phone zombie.



Cursive was big back in the 50's. I can remember setting in school with one hand above the desk and the other hand down below.
 
2014-01-02 04:28:25 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: A Terrible Human: DarkSoulNoHope: Worlds Worst Ad Campaign:

IF You're lacking... in... self... confiden...

[www.oocities.org image 223x199]

He should have been on the American Version of Whose Line.

Alot of them should have been in addition to Steve Frost. Tony Slattery, Paul Merton, Josie Lawrence (much more often than two episodes), Steven Fry, and Mike McShane (shocked that Mike didn't go on the US version of whose line, but I guess that was to honor his friend Tony who got blacklisted due to his mental problems :( )


Wait Tony Slattery was blacklisted to due mental illness? That's pretty farking shiatty cause he was hilarious.
/Watched both version of Whose Line but still haven't caught up with the new episodes cause I don't have CW.
 
2014-01-02 04:35:32 AM  

VelcroFez: Admiral is derived from the Arabic Emir


That was a question Jeopardy last night. I didn't get that one.
 
2014-01-02 04:35:39 AM  
U totes cray jelly, peeps.
 
2014-01-02 04:39:44 AM  
Yawn.

Families don't always converse because at some point you are just rehashing old conversation.

I don't keep up with sports, my parents don't care about video games, I don't care to gossip about family, and damn near everything else is political.

I've had enough discussions where some bigot turns a discussion about damn near anything into an excuse to say gay marriage is wrong for.. um.. reasons.

Worse, I find the average person sorely lacking in logical consistency. So I wind up saying 'well you just said x earlier and now you contradict yourself..' and if they are bright enough to comprehend the disparity they will claim they never said the first part.

I can speak just fine, I simply have no interest in the self-absorbed blathering, gossip, sports, or politics that encompasses 90% of what most people I meet irl have to say.

That leaves tv I guess, but I tend to watch shows only after a season completes, so no I don't want to know what the governor is up to or who kills geoffrey (sp? /shrug).

It isn't ability to gab thats the problem, it is the complete lack of shared knowledge and interests.

Ymmv.

/grumpy today
 
2014-01-02 05:20:25 AM  
*sigh* Another of the untold millions of unknown Obamascare victims. There will be many more.
 
2014-01-02 05:22:03 AM  
Everyone should join a diner Meetup. Choose your company before your fare, and the food is but a footnote.
 
2014-01-02 06:37:59 AM  

Smackledorfer: I can speak just fine, I simply have no interest in the self-absorbed blathering, gossip, sports, or politics that encompasses 90% of what most people I meet irl have to say.


So much this. It gets to the point where people are so out of touch with the world around them that you need to be, too.
 
2014-01-02 07:02:38 AM  
People are losing their conversational skills?

Good! Maybe they'll shut the fark up and leave me be.
/grumpycat.jpg
 
2014-01-02 07:07:35 AM  

Smackledorfer: Worse, I find the average person sorely lacking in logical consistency. So I wind up saying 'well you just said x earlier and now you contradict yourself..' and if they are bright enough to comprehend the disparity they will claim they never said the first part.


that sad feeling you get when you realize you can't win an argument using 'facts'

"facts are meaningless. you can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true... facts, shmacts" - homer


Smackledorfer: I can speak just fine, I simply have no interest in the self-absorbed blathering, gossip, sports, or politics that encompasses 90% of what most people I meet irl have to say.


so why exactly do you hang around on fark? :P
 
2014-01-02 07:15:09 AM  

Smackledorfer: Yawn.

Families don't always converse because at some point you are just rehashing old conversation.

I don't keep up with sports, my parents don't care about video games, I don't care to gossip about family, and damn near everything else is political.

I've had enough discussions where some bigot turns a discussion about damn near anything into an excuse to say gay marriage is wrong for.. um.. reasons.

Worse, I find the average person sorely lacking in logical consistency. So I wind up saying 'well you just said x earlier and now you contradict yourself..' and if they are bright enough to comprehend the disparity they will claim they never said the first part.

I can speak just fine, I simply have no interest in the self-absorbed blathering, gossip, sports, or politics that encompasses 90% of what most people I meet irl have to say.

That leaves tv I guess, but I tend to watch shows only after a season completes, so no I don't want to know what the governor is up to or who kills geoffrey (sp? /shrug).

It isn't ability to gab thats the problem, it is the complete lack of shared knowledge and interests.

Ymmv.

/grumpy today


Maybe its you and not everybody else?
 
2014-01-02 07:16:16 AM  
blog.wfmu.org

Some people have a way with words and others...oh...um...not have way.
 
2014-01-02 08:31:57 AM  
I can converse just fine, when I give a crap about what you're saying. But I'm short on f*cks to give this year, so make it good.
 
2014-01-02 08:52:54 AM  

Smackledorfer: Yawn.

Families don't always converse because at some point you are just rehashing old conversation.

I don't keep up with sports, my parents don't care about video games, I don't care to gossip about family, and damn near everything else is political.

I've had enough discussions where some bigot turns a discussion about damn near anything into an excuse to say gay marriage is wrong for.. um.. reasons.

Worse, I find the average person sorely lacking in logical consistency. So I wind up saying 'well you just said x earlier and now you contradict yourself..' and if they are bright enough to comprehend the disparity they will claim they never said the first part.

I can speak just fine, I simply have no interest in the self-absorbed blathering, gossip, sports, or politics that encompasses 90% of what most people I meet irl have to say.

That leaves tv I guess, but I tend to watch shows only after a season completes, so no I don't want to know what the governor is up to or who kills geoffrey (sp? /shrug).

It isn't ability to gab thats the problem, it is the complete lack of shared knowledge and interests.

Ymmv.

/grumpy today


You do realize that you just brought up several interesting conversational topics.  For instance, you could tell a few amusing anecdotes about the racist family members and the crazy stuff they say.  You could talk about the trend of "binging" on previous seasons of popular-now television shows.

/glass is half-full today.
 
2014-01-02 09:13:42 AM  

divgradcurl: Smackledorfer: Worse, I find the average person sorely lacking in logical consistency. So I wind up saying 'well you just said x earlier and now you contradict yourself..' and if they are bright enough to comprehend the disparity they will claim they never said the first part.


that sad feeling you get when you realize you can't win an argument using 'facts'

"facts are meaningless. you can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true... facts, shmacts" - homer


"Facts are stupid things."  ~  St. Ronald of Reagan
 
2014-01-02 10:02:35 AM  
And then she was like...

And then i was like...

And then she was like...
 
2014-01-02 11:53:42 AM  

divgradcurl: Smackledorfer: Worse, I find the average person sorely lacking in logical consistency. So I wind up saying 'well you just said x earlier and now you contradict yourself..' and if they are bright enough to comprehend the disparity they will claim they never said the first part.


that sad feeling you get when you realize you can't win an argument using 'facts'

"facts are meaningless. you can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true... facts, shmacts" - homer


Smackledorfer: I can speak just fine, I simply have no interest in the self-absorbed blathering, gossip, sports, or politics that encompasses 90% of what most people I meet irl have to say.

so why exactly do you hang around on fark? :P


Chronic insomnia and a job where I am alone for ten hours a day but have massive downtime.
 
2014-01-02 02:49:28 PM  

Smackledorfer: Yawn.

Families don't always converse because at some point you are just rehashing old conversation.

I don't keep up with sports, my parents don't care about video games, I don't care to gossip about family, and damn near everything else is political.

I've had enough discussions where some bigot turns a discussion about damn near anything into an excuse to say gay marriage is wrong for.. um.. reasons.

Worse, I find the average person sorely lacking in logical consistency. So I wind up saying 'well you just said x earlier and now you contradict yourself..' and if they are bright enough to comprehend the disparity they will claim they never said the first part.

I can speak just fine, I simply have no interest in the self-absorbed blathering, gossip, sports, or politics that encompasses 90% of what most people I meet irl have to say.

That leaves tv I guess, but I tend to watch shows only after a season completes, so no I don't want to know what the governor is up to or who kills geoffrey (sp? /shrug).

It isn't ability to gab thats the problem, it is the complete lack of shared knowledge and interests.

Ymmv.

/grumpy today


I know, right? Can you imagine something like the Algonquin Club today? Would never happen. I agree with the premise of the article, and I also agree with you. I don't see the two points of view as contradictory. I think we are in the process of losing the art of conversation, and I think it has something to do with your point that, despite the constant "connection" between all of us due to technology, ironically, we are all so disparate in our interests that we have little or no shared knowledge anymore.

I think that contributes to how polarized our politics has become. Everyone is in separate, small silos/echo chambers where either we reject what anyone else has to say or we already know what someone is going to say because we think the same thing -- there is no sharing and no need to share.

Not that I have any idea what to do about it because I'm guilty of the same thing. Over the holidays, my daughter and son-in-law were up visiting and many times the four of us were in the same room, all of us staring at and interacting with our own screens. I was on my computer, my husband next to me on his laptop, my daughter on the floor with hers, and my son-in-law on his tablet, none of us talking to each other. Sigh.
 
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