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(Calgary Sun)   If you end up in a ditch after getting lost on country roads and think you are going to freeze to death it's probably better to bundle up and stay inside the car instead of, say, lighting your car on fire to stay warm   (calgarysun.com) divider line 76
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2014-01-01 06:30:48 PM  
A quick search of the area located the two occupants of the car at a nearby house.

wait, what?
 
2014-01-01 07:20:04 PM  
Maybe he could've found someone to keep warm with in the personals.
 
2014-01-01 07:30:22 PM  
In the morning, the two men discovered that they were within easy walking distance of a nearby house and set off to find help...Feist said both men had cellphones.

I think we can all safely assume we're dealing with two stellar intellects here.
 
2014-01-01 07:39:09 PM  
Don't set your car on fire. Switch to DirecTV.
 
2014-01-01 07:42:42 PM  

Pocket Ninja: In the morning, the two men discovered that they were within easy walking distance of a nearby house and set off to find help...Feist said both men had cellphones.

I think we can all safely assume we're dealing with two stellar intellects here.


Well, they could have burned those, too...
 
2014-01-01 07:54:36 PM  
Probably a survival tip they got watching Bear Grylls.

i39.tinypic.com
 
2014-01-01 07:56:36 PM  
mock all you like, but had those guys stayed in their seats, they would have been warm for the rest of their lives.
 
2014-01-01 07:58:35 PM  
They must have been driving home after watching this movie:

samepageteam.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-01 07:59:54 PM  
Well, they did survive.
 
2014-01-01 08:00:35 PM  
Pincher creek?
Ernie Scar is that you?
/Clayton Magnet.  Now there was a guy.
 
2014-01-01 08:04:44 PM  
If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.
 
2014-01-01 08:05:11 PM  
Dead San Francisco tech guru, on snowy forest road, burning tires, dead of hallucinations after 2 days and exposure while his wife( and kid?) live in the car, from beyond the grave, calls these morans the King of Morans.


/Damn, that was hard to write.
//Enjoy your reignited hangover.
 
2014-01-01 08:06:29 PM  
I heard a story today about a lady who tried lighting a fire on the road to get help when her boyfriend was pinned in the car.   Gas leaking from the wreck spread the fire with predictable results.
 
2014-01-01 08:08:41 PM  
Or at the very least pull a tire off and light it.
 
2014-01-01 08:10:04 PM  
At least they got found before they set the house on fire.
 
2014-01-01 08:12:00 PM  

talkertopc: At least they got found before they set the house on fire.


Win.
 
2014-01-01 08:12:49 PM  
FTA- "They actually had two fires going," RCMP Cpl. Jeffrey Feist said.

Wow... facepalm.
 
2014-01-01 08:13:49 PM  
This is what socialized medicine will do to this country.
 
2014-01-01 08:14:55 PM  
Set a car on fire and it stays warm the rest of its life
 
2014-01-01 08:16:55 PM  

iheartscotch: If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.


Two persons are not going to freeze to death from one night at -15C in a car except maybe if they're dressed for +15C. People frequently pass that much time outside at lower temperatures.
 
2014-01-01 08:18:59 PM  

talkertopc: iheartscotch: If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.

Two persons are not going to freeze to death from one night at -15C in a car except maybe if they're dressed for +15C. People frequently pass that much time outside at lower temperatures.


Yeah unless the car was about to explode I'd stay put to avoid the wind until morning. Then I could get a look at my surroundings better and notice that house within walking distance.
 
2014-01-01 08:28:41 PM  
FTFA:
Pincher Creek RCMP said the pair were travelling home to Lethbridge, Alta., from Crowsnest Pass, Alta., overnight Saturday when they got lost on country roads east of Pincher Creek, eventually losing control and ending up in a ditch...
...on a rural road between Pincher Creek and the Piikani First Nation.
The pair were taken to hospital where they were treated and released for minor burn and frostbite. One was arrested on outstanding warrants.


Close proximity to a res
"Lost control" while driving overnight
Outstanding warrants
2 men
A quick Wiki of Crowsnest shows that it's a former mining town
...

My spidey-sense says drugs (probably meth) may have been a factor

/do they have meth in Canada?
 
2014-01-01 08:36:15 PM  

Brainsick: FTFA:
Pincher Creek RCMP said the pair were travelling home to Lethbridge, Alta., from Crowsnest Pass, Alta., overnight Saturday when they got lost on country roads east of Pincher Creek, eventually losing control and ending up in a ditch...
...on a rural road between Pincher Creek and the Piikani First Nation.
The pair were taken to hospital where they were treated and released for minor burn and frostbite. One was arrested on outstanding warrants.

Close proximity to a res
"Lost control" while driving overnight
Outstanding warrants
2 men
A quick Wiki of Crowsnest shows that it's a former mining town
...

My spidey-sense says drugs (probably meth) may have been a factor

/do they have meth in Canada?


You beat me to it. The article didn't say anything, but the meth likely wore off by then.

I'd say 100% of people not on drugs would not burn their cars intentionally.

/meth is prevalent everywhere. Just not everyone realizes that's why certain people act the way they do.
 
2014-01-01 08:36:18 PM  

talkertopc: At least they got found before they set the house on fire.


Maybe they did, and the article merely didn't cover the house fire.
 
2014-01-01 08:36:51 PM  
Rising smoke from the burned-out hulk attracted the attention of a passerby, who called 911.

Well, it worked.
 
2014-01-01 08:37:14 PM  
Or, you can just do like this guy did in Switzerland and install a better heater:

i2.asntown.net

i2.asntown.net

i2.asntown.net


i2.asntown.net
 
2014-01-01 08:37:50 PM  

ReverendJynxed: Or at the very least pull a tire off and light it.


DNRTFA, huh?
 
2014-01-01 08:38:41 PM  

Brainsick: FTFA:
Pincher Creek RCMP said the pair were travelling home to Lethbridge, Alta., from Crowsnest Pass, Alta., overnight Saturday when they got lost on country roads east of Pincher Creek, eventually losing control and ending up in a ditch...
...on a rural road between Pincher Creek and the Piikani First Nation.
The pair were taken to hospital where they were treated and released for minor burn and frostbite. One was arrested on outstanding warrants.

Close proximity to a res
"Lost control" while driving overnight
Outstanding warrants
2 men
A quick Wiki of Crowsnest shows that it's a former mining town
...

My spidey-sense says drugs (probably meth) may have been a factor

/do they have meth in Canada?


Yep. Meth is also a huge problem in rural Canada they just dont say much about it to the rest of the world.
 
2014-01-01 08:39:42 PM  

iheartscotch: If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.


And in my case I usually have camping gear in there in case I want to hit an event that weekend.
 
2014-01-01 08:42:00 PM  

Wake Up Sheeple: meth is prevalent everywhere. Just not everyone realizes that's why certain people act the way they do


Unfortunately, I had enough experience with the stuff in 'the bad old days', I can recognize the signs

/8 years clean!
 
2014-01-01 08:43:51 PM  

Hrist: Brainsick: FTFA:
Pincher Creek RCMP said the pair were travelling home to Lethbridge, Alta., from Crowsnest Pass, Alta., overnight Saturday when they got lost on country roads east of Pincher Creek, eventually losing control and ending up in a ditch...
...on a rural road between Pincher Creek and the Piikani First Nation.
The pair were taken to hospital where they were treated and released for minor burn and frostbite. One was arrested on outstanding warrants.

Close proximity to a res
"Lost control" while driving overnight
Outstanding warrants
2 men
A quick Wiki of Crowsnest shows that it's a former mining town
...

My spidey-sense says drugs (probably meth) may have been a factor

/do they have meth in Canada?

Yep. Meth is also a huge problem in rural Canada they just dont say much about it to the rest of the world.


Key phrase.
 
2014-01-01 08:45:31 PM  

cantsleep: ReverendJynxed: Or at the very least pull a tire off and light it.

DNRTFA, huh?


This IS Fark right?
 
2014-01-01 08:52:35 PM  
...set a man on fire and he'll be warm the rest of his life
 
2014-01-01 08:52:39 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: Or, you can just do like this guy did in Switzerland and install a better heater:

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Now that's hotboxing!
 
2014-01-01 08:53:48 PM  
They seamed quick with the match. Wonder how much was still owed on the car.
 
2014-01-01 08:55:02 PM  

iheartscotch: If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.


Please, for the love of God, don't follow any of this advice.

Running your car while it's half buried in a snowbank is a good way to kill yourself from carbon monoxide poisoning.

And two adults can survive in a car for a hell of a lot longer than they'll survive wandering around outside.
 
2014-01-01 09:04:41 PM  
Burns AND frostbite? That's impressive.
 
2014-01-01 09:09:05 PM  

The Larch: iheartscotch: If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.

Please, for the love of God, don't follow any of this advice.

Running your car while it's half buried in a snowbank is a good way to kill yourself from carbon monoxide poisoning.

And two adults can survive in a car for a hell of a lot longer than they'll survive wandering around outside.


If you live in a place with harsh winters, keep a warm sleeping bag or two in your vehicles. It could save your life.
 
2014-01-01 09:11:25 PM  

ReverendJynxed: cantsleep: ReverendJynxed: Or at the very least pull a tire off and light it.

DNRTFA, huh?

This IS Fark right?


Just checking. Proceed.
 
2014-01-01 09:15:00 PM  
What I don't understand is how two people that live in the frozen tundra of America's ugly hat don't know enough to keep some extra coats or sleeping bags in the car.

Hell I'm in moderate as can be Seattle and I have a blankie in the car. And it isn't the one with the mutant turtles on it either.
 
2014-01-01 09:16:24 PM  

Brainsick: FTFA:
Pincher Creek RCMP said the pair were travelling home to Lethbridge, Alta., from Crowsnest Pass, Alta., overnight Saturday when they got lost on country roads east of Pincher Creek, eventually losing control and ending up in a ditch...
...on a rural road between Pincher Creek and the Piikani First Nation.
The pair were taken to hospital where they were treated and released for minor burn and frostbite. One was arrested on outstanding warrants.

Close proximity to a res
"Lost control" while driving overnight
Outstanding warrants
2 men
A quick Wiki of Crowsnest shows that it's a former mining town
...

My spidey-sense says drugs (probably meth) may have been a factor

/do they have meth in Canada?


Polite meth, yes.
 
2014-01-01 09:49:54 PM  

TomD9938: Well, they did survive.



I can hardly wait for the Made-For-TV movie.


Two men. One car. No brains.

Survive

The true story of two guys who survived a night outside

 In the dark and everything.

Hey, it was cold!

 
2014-01-01 09:57:00 PM  
Les taught me to strip my car of everything useful at a moments notice.
 
2014-01-01 10:00:55 PM  
Just keep some candles in your car.  A lit candle will raise the temperature enough that you will not freeze to death.  Also, if you regularly drive in areas where the population is sparse then buy a couple of cheap 20-dollar sleeping bags and keep them in your trunk.  The candle and those sleeping bags will keep you quite comfortable.
 
2014-01-01 10:03:12 PM  
Hmmm, just read the article:  "The pair were taken to hospital where they were treated and released for minor burn and frostbite. One was arrested on outstanding warrants."  Yeah, they probably burned some stolen goods or something else illegal.
 
2014-01-01 10:06:07 PM  

talkertopc: iheartscotch: If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.

Two persons are not going to freeze to death from one night at -15C in a car except maybe if they're dressed for +15C. People frequently pass that much time outside at lower temperatures.


Generally, though, people who are going to be driving in temperatures of -15C are not going to be wearing the same clothes as those people who will be outside inn -15C weather.
 
2014-01-01 10:12:59 PM  

Mock26: Just keep some candles in your car.  A lit candle will raise the temperature enough that you will not freeze to death.  Also, if you regularly drive in areas where the population is sparse then buy a couple of cheap 20-dollar sleeping bags and keep them in your trunk.  The candle and those sleeping bags will keep you quite comfortable.


You're not kidding about the candle - back when the heating unit died on the car, that's what I did to help stay warm when dropping the man-of-then off at an ungodly and frigid hour of the morning. It's rather effective.
 
2014-01-01 10:15:39 PM  

lelio: What I don't understand is how two people that live in the frozen tundra of America's ugly hat don't know enough to keep some extra coats or sleeping bags in the car.

Hell I'm in moderate as can be Seattle and I have a blankie in the car. And it isn't the one with the mutant turtles on it either.


If you want to be rescued, you should probably keep the heroes on a half shell with you.
 
2014-01-01 10:19:21 PM  
Out of the freezing pan, into the fryer.
 
2014-01-01 10:25:37 PM  

iheartscotch: If you have the fuel to run your car; that's a perfect place to stay. But, if your out of fuel, your car can turn into a death trap. There are plenty of people who froze to death inside their car; the only real advantage you have in a car without fuel is you're not necessarily experiencing the windchill.


in fact, that's a huge advantage, because you can actually accumulate heat and you're off the ground, two of the biggest issues solved... if you're not one of those so daft as to fail to carry blankets and pillows in the trunk during cold weather.

I used to think 40 degrees was "too cold" to sleep in my car (a smaller suv) so i abstained from driving out into the mountains where it was much colder... come to find out, me and a blanket (and some socks!!) can handle 25 degree weather, feeling toasty.

Of course, i kept a waste bottle in the car so I wouldn't have to get out of the car if nature called, but otherwise i slept great.

/bought the car to car camp
//went a year self-employed without a permanent address, telecommuting
///why are cars even capable of running the battery all the way down?!
 
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