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(CNN)   R.I.P. the incandescent light-bulb. Article to the left. To the right, hoarders selling them at twenty times the price to the gullible   (cnn.com) divider line 262
    More: PSA, R.I.P., LED bulbs, fluorescent light bulbs, human existence, Pierre Trudeau  
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2014-01-01 03:48:36 PM  
My only complaint is that the floodlights on the back of our property apparently don't get enough juice to fire a CF, so I have to use the new halogen incandescents, which are crazy expensive.
 
2014-01-01 03:48:36 PM  
Wish I'd have thought of that.  "Oh, you want to keep using a 100+ year old, inefficient technology, simply because the big gubmint doesn't want you to anymore?  Well, I happen to have some for the low price of the same price as a dimmable LED that will last 20 years and use a couple hundred dollars less electricity during that timeframe.  Here ya go, thanks for doing business!"
 
2014-01-01 04:09:17 PM  

Lsherm: My only complaint is that the floodlights on the back of our property apparently don't get enough juice to fire a CF, so I have to use the new halogen incandescents, which are crazy expensive.


I recently bought 3 of these as exterior floods for my house. They light up everything fantastic, fire in any temp, barely use any energy, and will probably outlive me. No more of that ladder crap. LED is the only kind of bulb I buy now.
 
2014-01-01 04:15:57 PM  

Outtaphase: Lsherm: My only complaint is that the floodlights on the back of our property apparently don't get enough juice to fire a CF, so I have to use the new halogen incandescents, which are crazy expensive.

I recently bought 3 of these as exterior floods for my house. They light up everything fantastic, fire in any temp, barely use any energy, and will probably outlive me. No more of that ladder crap. LED is the only kind of bulb I buy now.


If I thought 20 bucks for a Halogen was expensive, $140 isn't going to sell me no matter how long they last.

I'm still waiting for LEDs to come down in price.  CFLs were really expensive at the beginning, too.
 
2014-01-01 04:16:31 PM  
Since I rent, I'm taking any CF/LED/Halo bulbs with me when I move.

/if they're gonna pay for themselves over 20 years, they're gonna stay with me for 20 years.
 
2014-01-01 04:20:04 PM  
The diagnosis came in years ago, in 2007, when President George W. Bush signed a law to replace standard incandescents with more efficient bulbs.

Thanks Obama.
 
2014-01-01 04:22:24 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: The diagnosis came in years ago, in 2007, when President George W. Bush signed a law to replace standard incandescents with more efficient bulbs.

Thanks Obama.


Them damn small gubbermint types telling me what I can and can't do in my own home!

/wait...wut?
 
2014-01-01 04:23:16 PM  
Another reason I switched from Halogen was heat. The ones that are just under the eaves used to attract birds nests. I thought they were going to burn the whole place down if I didn't watch for them and knock them down ASAP.
 
2014-01-01 04:26:58 PM  
So if I say Sarah Palin isn't the brightest bulb this is now a compliment?
 
2014-01-01 04:48:53 PM  
BTW the ban only applies to 40 and 60 watt bulbs.
 
2014-01-01 04:55:23 PM  

WhyteRaven74: BTW the ban only applies to 40 and 60 watt bulbs.


FTA: "Seventy-five- and 100-watt bulbs were already banned this year."  (2013)
 
2014-01-01 05:19:06 PM  
As long as halogen bulbs are available, I'm ok with this. But we need those. When we built the house in the mid 80s (yes, we're old), we put in Casablanca ceiling fans that dimmed the light by momentarily cutting the power. Works fine with a bulb with a glowing filament but CFL and LED lights are blinky at less than 100% power.
 
2014-01-01 05:28:15 PM  
www.seekwellness.com
 
2014-01-01 05:32:12 PM  
How many billions of dollars are we saving on electricity?
 
2014-01-01 05:33:43 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: The diagnosis came in years ago, in 2007, when President George W. Bush signed a law to replace standard incandescents with more efficient bulbs.

Thanks Obama.


You just know the Tea Party types will find some way to hold Obama responsible, just like they did with the "Obamaphones". Facts mean nothing to these people.
 
2014-01-01 05:34:03 PM  
If anyone wants an 1880's version of the personal computer I'll be happy to sell you an abacus at an insane markup as well.
 
2014-01-01 05:36:47 PM  
I really think it would have been more sensible to ban them in 5 years, when LEDs will be cheaper and the "warm light" version standard.

A lot of people are choosing halogen, which makes the problem worse.
 
2014-01-01 05:37:59 PM  
If there's anything we've learned from Duck Dynasty, Goldline, Chick-Fil-A, ammunition manufacterers, and survival seed gardens, it's never underestimate the profit potential of idiots with disposable income.
 
2014-01-01 05:40:48 PM  
If this resolves our climate change problems it's well worth it.
 
2014-01-01 05:43:23 PM  
B-but Wendy might've heard somewhere that those new things give off a gas! *audience gasps*
 
2014-01-01 05:44:35 PM  
When I moved into this house 2 years ago, the previous owner left a closet full of light bulbs. I figure I have enough to last me another five years. By then the tech will get cheaper and I will still save money in the long run.
 
2014-01-01 05:45:21 PM  

stoli n coke: If there's anything we've learned from Duck Dynasty, Goldline, Chick-Fil-A, ammunition manufacterers, and survival seed gardens, it's never underestimate the profit potential of idiots with disposable income.


static3.businessinsider.com
 
2014-01-01 05:47:10 PM  
What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.
 
2014-01-01 05:47:31 PM  

Somacandra: If anyone wants an 1880's version of the personal computer I'll be happy to sell you an abacus at an insane markup as well.


I've got some of the best damned buggy whips that money can buy. Rat cheer. Fer sale. On EBAY.
 
2014-01-01 05:49:32 PM  

Morchella: As long as halogen bulbs are available, I'm ok with this. But we need those. When we built the house in the mid 80s (yes, we're old), we put in Casablanca ceiling fans that dimmed the light by momentarily cutting the power. Works fine with a bulb with a glowing filament but CFL and LED lights are blinky at less than 100% power.


They make dimmable led bulbs that work 100% great in all of my dimmable lights. Just sayin. 5 years ago that was true tho.
 
2014-01-01 05:52:43 PM  

Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.


What percent of people dispose of *batteries* properly?
 
2014-01-01 05:54:57 PM  

Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.


Protip:  businesses with large physical plants (ie ones that generate large quantities) are required by law to properly dispose of their CFLs and tubes.
Homeowners, who generally only use CFLs and even then only burn out one or two a year, are usually given a pass.

Second protip:  Home Depot.  Recycle bin just inside the door.  They got one for the sealed lead and modular nickel batteries out of your power tools, as well.
/works for a company that picks up these things for shipment to a recycling center
//you'd be amazed how many businesses don't know...
 
2014-01-01 05:55:43 PM  
Original Edison bulbs were awesome. Had one that I used that was made several decades before I was alive.
 
2014-01-01 05:56:07 PM  
For a year now, whenever a light has gone out, I've switched over to LED bulbs. Can't complain. Color is great, they are just as dimmable, and they come on faster than an incandescent! I even got one for my son's room that he can control with a remote, and change the color or intensity.

And for those who this matters, Cree LED chips are made in the US, unlike incandescent bulbs which are probably made in China.

Sure they're more expensive to buy, but a simple math will help you figure out that they're worth it in saved electricity alone. Not to mention that in summer time, you have to cool out the room for the same amount of watts that you're heating it with the lights.
 
2014-01-01 05:56:33 PM  

Morchella: As long as halogen bulbs are available, I'm ok with this. But we need those. When we built the house in the mid 80s (yes, we're old), we put in Casablanca ceiling fans that dimmed the light by momentarily cutting the power. Works fine with a bulb with a glowing filament but CFL and LED lights are blinky at less than 100% power.


Halogen bulbs are next on the list. The EU has a target date of 2016 for the phase-out, and I'm guessing we'll be taking action around 2018 given we're generally about 2 or 3 years behind them on these issues.
 
2014-01-01 05:57:27 PM  

Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.


and unless you are re-lamping an entire floor of cube farm or assembly line who properly disposes of 4' florescent bulbs. those two you replaced over mary's desk just get tossed in the dumpster.
 
2014-01-01 05:57:29 PM  

Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.


What's the real impact of not disposing of a CFL properly? Less than 1/1000th of the mercury in a thermometer. Probably not really a problem compared to other things in one's home.
 
2014-01-01 05:59:38 PM  

Nem Wan: Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.

What's the real impact of not disposing of a CFL properly? Less than 1/1000th of the mercury in a thermometer. Probably not really a problem compared to other things in one's home.


Or compared to the mercury that gets dumped into the air via coal plants.
 
2014-01-01 06:00:09 PM  

Nem Wan: What's the real impact of not disposing of a CFL properly? Less than 1/1000th of the mercury in a thermometer. Probably not really a problem compared to other things in one's home.


Also, overall, you're reducing mercury releases from coal burning. Maybe not right in your area, but in general.
 
2014-01-01 06:00:18 PM  

Nem Wan: Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.

What's the real impact of not disposing of a CFL properly? Less than 1/1000th of the mercury in a thermometer. Probably not really a problem compared to other things in one's home.


Getting thousands and thousands if not millions of them right next to each other in the landfill.  But the recommendations about what to do if you break one in your house are ridiculously over the top.
 
2014-01-01 06:00:42 PM  
Dude, I have 3 crates of pure Edison filaments man.  100Watts of pure post-industrial sunshine.  Get you lit up like a mofo.  I'm only taking Bitcoins and the shiat ain't cheap.  Send me your E-mail.
 
2014-01-01 06:01:41 PM  
www.historyinsidepictures.com

No mention of arc lamps.
 
2014-01-01 06:02:59 PM  

Ishidan: Homeowners, who generally only use CFLs and even then only burn out one or two a year, are usually given a pass.


this is true as a real world application but IIRC it is illegal. the warnings on the packaging sure are harsh.

/rips tags off mattresses
 
2014-01-01 06:03:17 PM  

mrshowrules: Dude, I have 3 crates of pure Edison filaments man.  100Watts of pure post-industrial sunshine.  Get you lit up like a mofo.  I'm only taking Bitcoins and the shiat ain't cheap.  Send me your E-mail.


double fail.  Wrong thread and didn't quote the person I was responding to.
 
2014-01-01 06:03:40 PM  
Back when I switched almost all of our lighting to CFL (and a few LED ones as experiments), I learned a bunch of things.

* You get what you pay for. Cheap Chinese bulbs flicker and go bad quickly. They also tend to have greenish unpleasant light. Nicer CFLs can be dimmable or cast a 'warmer' incandescent-like color.

*  I forgot how frequently I had to change incandescent bulbs until I had the CFLs for a few years, and replaced one of them with an incandescent that lasted only a few months.

* The "dimmable" CFLs fail quickly for me in motion-sensing applications, does anyone have recommendations or successful experiences?

* LEDs work best in "spotlight" applications, due to the nature of the LED emitter. Although I have an expensive Philips 60w-equivalent LED bulb on my porch (see below), so maybe it's just a matter of getting what you pay for...

fivepercent.us
 
2014-01-01 06:05:52 PM  

mrshowrules: mrshowrules: Dude, I have 3 crates of pure Edison filaments man.  100Watts of pure post-industrial sunshine.  Get you lit up like a mofo.  I'm only taking Bitcoins and the shiat ain't cheap.  Send me your E-mail.

double fail.  Wrong thread and didn't quote the person I was responding to.


I don't know where you were going to post it, but I thought it fit in here! Made me chuckle.
 
2014-01-01 06:06:03 PM  
My only complaint about LEDs is their initial cost. I love the light they produce.

I bought seven of them in the last couple of weeks (6 150W equivalent, 1 250W equivalent) from PacLights in daylight white, and I am very happy with them.

Except, of course, their cost. They are also a fair bit heavier than CFLs and incandescent bulbs. But I will get over it, especially with lower utility bills.

Here is a diagram of what they look like, for people who like such things:
ecx.images-amazon.com

/Not trying to sell them or the company, I just like them, and the company responded very quickly to a couple of email questions I had. Made in China, though.
 
2014-01-01 06:06:07 PM  

Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.


What percentage dispose of fluorescent tubes properly? Same exact warnings, been around since the 30s, and have been more common than Edison bulbs since the 50s.

But I suppose they become more dangerous in curly form according to some wharrgarblers.
 
2014-01-01 06:06:55 PM  
How many Jewish mothers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None. They'd rather sit in the dark and suffer.

How many Jewish-American Princesses does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Two. One to open the Diet Cokes, one to call Daddy.

How many lesbians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Two. One to screw it one, one to say how much better it was than with a man. (Alternate punch line: That's not funny!)

How many Southern Californians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None. Southern Californians don't screw in light bulbs, they screw in hot tubs.
 
2014-01-01 06:08:51 PM  
Damn, no matter how many times you look at it before you post, one typo always gets through.
 
2014-01-01 06:09:38 PM  
72.32.243.41

Incandescent Christmas lights will still be OK. Sorry to disappoint your "WAR ON CHRISTMAS 2014" plans, Fox News.
 
2014-01-01 06:10:48 PM  

finnished: mrshowrules: mrshowrules: Dude, I have 3 crates of pure Edison filaments man.  100Watts of pure post-industrial sunshine.  Get you lit up like a mofo.  I'm only taking Bitcoins and the shiat ain't cheap.  Send me your E-mail.

double fail.  Wrong thread and didn't quote the person I was responding to.

I don't know where you were going to post it, but I thought it fit in here! Made me chuckle.


That's because I just commented on the wrong farked up post.  Quadruple fail.  I am to high right now to post on Fark.
 
2014-01-01 06:11:47 PM  
Meh checked amazon not seeing any insane prices yet.
 
2014-01-01 06:11:50 PM  

mrshowrules: I am to high right now to post on Fark.


There's no such thing. Stop lying.
 
2014-01-01 06:12:18 PM  

maxheck: Euell Gibbons: What percent of people dispose of the CFL bulbs properly?  0.5%?  Never had to worry about that with a good old fashioned bulb.

What percentage dispose of fluorescent tubes properly? Same exact warnings, been around since the 30s, and have been more common than Edison bulbs since the 50s.

But I suppose they become more dangerous in curly form according to some wharrgarblers.


http://www2.epa.gov/cfl/cleaning-broken-cfl
 
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