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(Miami Herald)   Activist judge rules that Governor Scott can't force welfare recipients to take drug tests at his for-profit testing labs   (miamiherald.com) divider line 141
    More: Florida, Governor Scott, activist judge, federal judges, zero-tolerance policies, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, full court, fourth amendment, welfare  
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2014-01-01 10:04:57 AM  
I've been gainfully employed my whole life.  If I fell on hard times and had to collect welfare for awhile, the idea of having to pee in a cup for someone  would make me very stabby.
 
2014-01-01 10:13:13 AM  
If you can't keep your boot on the throat of the downtrodden and make a profit off the action, what is the point in being a Republican?
 
2014-01-01 10:15:57 AM  
How is Scott still a governor, much less might actually get re-elected? He's like Evil incarnate. Forget that thing at the end of Time Bandits, Scott is farking Evil.
 
2014-01-01 10:21:25 AM  
Is 2014 an election year in Florida?  Because Scott needs to go.
 
2014-01-01 10:23:59 AM  
Only rich people get to do drugs.
 
2014-01-01 10:28:46 AM  
 
2014-01-01 10:41:14 AM  

sprgrss: Is 2014 an election year in Florida?  Because Scott needs to go.


This. He owns the testing clinics and then trys to pass this. And he wanted to put golf courses in parks. Guys a creep.
 
2014-01-01 10:42:14 AM  
Make them piss in a cup too. I'm local government employee and if I have to, so should the lawmakers. After all, I was told not too long ago that if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to hide
 
2014-01-01 10:49:28 AM  
This will certainly hinder his crackdown on toons.

i915.photobucket.com
 
2014-01-01 11:07:17 AM  
Good.
 
2014-01-01 11:12:45 AM  
After public ridicule Rick Scott switched his clinics over to a company that his wife owns, because that means he no longer owns them so no conflict, right?
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2014-01-01 11:15:03 AM  

shanrick: After public ridicule Rick Scott switched his clinics over to a company that his wife owns, because that means he no longer owns them so no conflict, right?
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Rocking a much more professorial look in that photo.
 
2014-01-01 11:28:16 AM  
The reasons given for testing might be good ones but I don't see why they would only apply to those on welfare. If those are good reason then they should apply to every citizen all the time. Mandatory drug testing checkpoints!

/To save our freedoms.
 
2014-01-01 11:46:34 AM  

edmo: The reasons given for testing might be good ones but I don't see why they would only apply to those on welfare. If those are good reason then they should apply to every citizen all the time. Mandatory drug testing checkpoints!

/To save our freedoms.


Starting with our lawmakers!
 
2014-01-01 11:50:31 AM  
Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.
 
2014-01-01 11:51:52 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.


This
 
2014-01-01 11:53:57 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.


Lots of career path government jobs require it. Mine does.
 
2014-01-01 11:59:46 AM  
Too bad he shaved his head to avoid a hair follicle test. Hypocrite. Judgmental Twit
 
2014-01-01 12:10:39 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.


Talk to my husband who makes six figures and is subjected to drug testing all the time (nuclear power plant gypsy).

It's really fun when you end up in the hospital and have to get a list of every drug given to you so you can report it in case something shows up on a drug test.  He won't even eat poppy seed bread just because he's so paranoid about it.
 
2014-01-01 12:20:30 PM  
If we would simply put poor people in prison, we'd substantially reduce their access to drugs
 
2014-01-01 12:22:22 PM  
Why do judges hate Job Creators?
 
2014-01-01 12:25:52 PM  
Drug testing usually only affects potheads, since weed stays in your system the longest. Thank fsm for Clear Test.
 
2014-01-01 12:27:18 PM  

Notabunny: If we would simply put poor people in prison, we'd substantially reduce their access to drugs


And we could make them work for their food at the same time

/and support the private prison industry job creators
//damn... this is a win all the way around
 
2014-01-01 12:34:25 PM  
Obligatory...

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2014-01-01 12:34:34 PM  
 
2014-01-01 12:35:42 PM  

thamike: This will certainly hinder his crackdown on toons.

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4.bp.blogspot.com

Two. Bits.
 
2014-01-01 12:35:50 PM  

Speaker2Animals: Obligatory...

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Ooh, I like this, I'm using it next time someone biatches about this on facebook.  So probably later today.
 
2014-01-01 12:55:57 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Notabunny: If we would simply put poor people in prison, we'd substantially reduce their access to drugs

And we could make them work for their food at the same time

/and support the private prison industry job creators
//damn... this is a win all the way around


And by incarcerating the poor, they're less likely to have babies, thus decreasing the surplus population
 
2014-01-01 01:03:06 PM  
Last conversation I ever had about this with a conservative:

'What if testing ends up costing more than it saves?'

'It's worth it!'

You just can't argue with that.
 
2014-01-01 01:03:22 PM  

raerae1980: Drug testing usually only affects potheads, since weed stays in your system the longest. Thank fsm for Clear Test.


All of us would much rather spend a work day with someone who's been up all night on a  booze bender, because people that smoke pot on the weekends are lazy.
/or something
 
2014-01-01 01:05:30 PM  

MFAWG: Last conversation I ever had about this with a conservative:

'What if testing ends up costing more than it saves?'

'It's worth it!'

You just can't argue with that.


And as a drunk who hates weed, weed is a thousand times less harmful as booze.
 
2014-01-01 01:08:02 PM  
Good.    Fark him.    Can't wait for him to be run out of office in the next election.
 
2014-01-01 01:14:43 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.


Not sure if you're talking pre-employment testing, or random testing.  I've worked for 4 companies during my career as an electrical engineer, which isn't exactly a dead end line of work.  Three of them required a drug test at the beginning of employment, and had "random" testing policies, which never actually happened unless they had reason to think someone was under influence.

My results may be different because I work on electrical substations, so there's a lot of interaction with gov. agencies and public safety is affected if people designing those aren't competent.

/And thanks for the month of TF, anonymous person that sponsored me!
 
2014-01-01 01:15:49 PM  
An act of humanity should always be accompanied by a meaningless act of humiliation.  That's why when I give a homeless person some money, I like to do it by throwing a fistful of pennies at their head.  Ideally, see more than one homeless person scramble to pick them up is ideal.
 
2014-01-01 01:16:55 PM  

MFAWG: Last conversation I ever had about this with a conservative:

'What if testing ends up costing more than it saves?'

'It's worth it!'

You just can't argue with that.


Conservatives are terrified that someone, somewhere, might be getting something they don't deserve.
 
2014-01-01 01:17:57 PM  
The thing I despise most about this program is that it feeds the notion that we should spend this massive amount of money to catch a negligible amount of fraud.  There will always be fraud and yes we should have checks in place to prevent as much as possible.  However, the handful of people this program catches in relation to its costs is outrageous.

/which I guess is the point
 
2014-01-01 01:19:16 PM  
We really should be drug testing people receiving government handouts.

Starting with all employees of defense contractors and banks.
 
2014-01-01 01:19:51 PM  

Chameleon: MFAWG: Last conversation I ever had about this with a conservative:

'What if testing ends up costing more than it saves?'

'It's worth it!'

You just can't argue with that.

Conservatives are terrified that someone, somewhere, might be getting something they don't deserve.


Unless it is an Oil Companies or Investment Bankers tax cut?
 
2014-01-01 01:21:10 PM  

Summoner101: The thing I despise most about this program is that it feeds the notion that we should spend this massive amount of money to catch a negligible amount of fraud.  There will always be fraud and yes we should have checks in place to prevent as much as possible.  However, the handful of people this program catches in relation to its costs is outrageous.

/which I guess is the point


No, the point was to cash in on the backs of the disadvantaged.
 
2014-01-01 01:21:27 PM  

Third Day Mark: Good.    Fark him.    Can't wait for him to be run out of office in the next election.


I don't even know if that's going to happen. I think he might get re-elected.
 
2014-01-01 01:23:01 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Summoner101: The thing I despise most about this program is that it feeds the notion that we should spend this massive amount of money to catch a negligible amount of fraud.  There will always be fraud and yes we should have checks in place to prevent as much as possible.  However, the handful of people this program catches in relation to its costs is outrageous.

/which I guess is the point

No, the point was to cash in on the backs of the disadvantaged.


Yes indeed. When you own the testing centers the amount of people caught is pretty irrelevant; all you want to do is make sure as many people as possible are required to take the test.
 
2014-01-01 01:24:29 PM  

sdd2000: Chameleon: 
Conservatives are terrified that someone, somewhere, might be getting something they don't deserve.

Unless it is an Oil Companies or Investment Bankers tax cut?


Well, they do deserve it. So drop your drawers, bend over and accept it, average citizen.
 
2014-01-01 01:26:31 PM  

RedPhoenix122: Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.


I work for a major corporation, definite career paths. They require a drug test when you're originally hired, but no random or scheduled screens after that.

/Company also offers reimbursement for 2 cab rides between Thanksgiving and New Years for the tipsy employees
 
2014-01-01 01:27:30 PM  

Mugato: Third Day Mark: Good.    Fark him.    Can't wait for him to be run out of office in the next election.

I don't even know if that's going to happen. I think he might get re-elected.


Nah.    We'll hold our breath and vote for Charley before we take this prick again.    I will, anyways.
 
2014-01-01 01:29:39 PM  

Speaker2Animals: Obligatory...

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If there's that much foam in your urine, you might want to see a doctor.
 
2014-01-01 01:35:06 PM  

BiblioTech: RedPhoenix122: Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.

Talk to my husband who makes six figures and is subjected to drug testing all the time (nuclear power plant gypsy).

It's really fun when you end up in the hospital and have to get a list of every drug given to you so you can report it in case something shows up on a drug test.  He won't even eat poppy seed bread just because he's so paranoid about it.


I talked to him. He's cheating on you.
 
2014-01-01 01:38:08 PM  

MFAWG: Last conversation I ever had about this with a conservative:

'What if testing ends up costing more than it saves?'

'It's worth it!'

You just can't argue with that.


What do you mean "IF?" The numbers are already in, and it IS costing more money than it saves.
 
2014-01-01 01:40:57 PM  

jj325: RedPhoenix122: Only the dead end jobs I've had required drug testing.  The ones with a career path never did.

I work for a major corporation, definite career paths. They require a drug test when you're originally hired, but no random or scheduled screens after that.

/Company also offers reimbursement for 2 cab rides between Thanksgiving and New Years for the tipsy employees


The cab rides are a pretty cool thing for a company to do.
 
2014-01-01 01:42:54 PM  

MFAWG: Last conversation I ever had about this with a conservative:

'What if testing ends up costing more than it saves?'

'It's worth it!'

You just can't argue with that.


Thats when you ask them if they are truly fiscally conservative or just lying to everyone.
 
2014-01-01 01:43:05 PM  
Corruption in a governor's office?
Illinois smiles and says "Good effort, for an amateur."
 
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