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(The New York Times)   It's begun. Millions of Americans are getting insurance and there's nothing anyone can do about it   (nytimes.com) divider line 236
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2014-01-01 10:08:29 AM
The thousand years of darkness Chuck Norris has warned us about has begun.  Surely poor/sick people having health care will not end well.
 
2014-01-01 10:15:10 AM
Thanks Obama
 
2014-01-01 10:34:19 AM
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My GOD.....the horror....the horror
 
2014-01-01 10:37:03 AM
remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.
 
2014-01-01 10:45:15 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!111oneoneeleventyone1!
 
2014-01-01 10:47:58 AM
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2014-01-01 10:53:37 AM
So we have 3 million that have signed up.

But there were 15 million that were uninsured and another 5 million that lost their policies because they didn't include free birth control (even if you are a post menopausal woman) or maternity care (for men).

In other words we are whooping it up because there are 2 million less insured.


/ if you can't afford the premiums, how will you pay the deductibles?

//  my bronze policy quote:$940 a month with a $12600 deductible. No subsidy. Not affordable
 
2014-01-01 10:56:14 AM

SauronWasFramed: they didn't include free birth control (even if you are a post menopausal woman) or maternity care (for men).


It's really unfair to force insurance companies to cover maternity care for men. Their annual costs for such coverage could end up being nearly $0, which will surely bankrupt them.
 
2014-01-01 10:59:43 AM

SauronWasFramed: //  my bronze policy quote:$940 a month with a $12600 deductible. No subsidy. Not affordable


Let me shed a tear for the backfat-snorting, rascal-riding populace.
 
2014-01-01 11:08:42 AM
This is bad news... For Obama.
 
2014-01-01 11:11:42 AM

SauronWasFramed: But there were 15 million that were uninsured and another 5 million that lost their policies because they didn't include free birth control (even if you are a post menopausal woman) or maternity care (for men).


And if you're a young person it covers arthritis even if you aren't likely to have it for decades, that's how insurance works. My insurance covers cancer treatment even if I don't currently have cancer. My car insurance covers accidents even if I'm not currently in an accident.
 
2014-01-01 11:11:51 AM
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2014-01-01 11:23:39 AM
Filthy Rich People: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! How will we deplete the herd of poors if they stop getting sick and dying? I like watching poor people die! DAMN YOU OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!"
 
2014-01-01 11:24:31 AM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 616x457]

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My GOD.....the horror....the horror


I've been told by countless people on conservative message boards that because that man can get help, it's the same as Obama coming into my house and taking fud away from my cats and children.  Medical care would be totally affordable because all teh gov't intervention has prevented health care from being a truly free market.

Just like we've never had pure communism, pure libertarianism, pure socializum or any other pure thing.
 
2014-01-01 11:24:35 AM

FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.


You forgot to add Sauron, Voldemort, and Davros as well.
 
2014-01-01 11:25:26 AM
"With coverage," she said, "I can be my best self. Health insurance won't control my job choices."

Thanks, Obama.
 
2014-01-01 11:26:24 AM
GOP: But... but once they are born, we try to kill them! You're not helping!
 
2014-01-01 11:26:25 AM

TV's Vinnie: FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.

You forgot to add Sauron, Voldemort, and Davros as well.


Apparently Sauron was framed.
 
2014-01-01 11:28:55 AM

19 Kilo: TV's Vinnie: FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.

You forgot to add Sauron, Voldemort, and Davros as well.

Apparently Sauron was framed.


Substitute Soros

/close enough
 
2014-01-01 11:29:16 AM

19 Kilo: Davros


static2.wikia.nocookie.net

WHOOPS, WRONG THREAD
 
2014-01-01 11:29:48 AM

19 Kilo: Just like we've never had pure communism, pure libertarianism, pure socializum or any other pure thing.


Of course, paraphrasing certain wishful luminaries, pure communism hasn't actually failed.  We failed  it.

"Wishful luminaries" in the literal sense, as in "I wish someone would set them on fire."
 
2014-01-01 11:30:03 AM

19 Kilo: TV's Vinnie: FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.

You forgot to add Sauron, Voldemort, and Davros as well.

Apparently Sauron was framed.


He was a big eye on top of a tower. I didn't see any frame.
 
2014-01-01 11:31:01 AM
Always talk about the success of a failure in the ephemeral. Never allow the facts to be introduced because nothing can be defeated if kept nebulous and theoretical.
 
2014-01-01 11:31:04 AM
This is the day America died.*baldeaglecrying.jpg*
 
2014-01-01 11:32:15 AM
The invisible hand of the market will take its revenge.
 
2014-01-01 11:32:47 AM
A series of last-minute changes in rules and deadlines for people to sign up and pay premiums have left less time for insurers to activate coverage and issue identification cards, adding to the uncertainty caused by the troubled rollout of the health exchange.
"There will be a lot of confusion," said Brian D. Caswell, a former president of the Kansas Pharmacists Association, who owns a drugstore in rural Baxter Springs. "Many people will get insurance cards, but will not have a clue what's covered, what's not covered and what they are supposed to pay."


For goodness sakes, it's not rocket surgery. If the bolded part is true, it is basically because those people are idiots and hasn't a damned thing to do with the ACA.
 
2014-01-01 11:33:12 AM
But once this is a big success, how many of you will remember to thank your local GOP representative?

/by voting his/her ass out of office?
 
2014-01-01 11:33:38 AM

SauronWasFramed: they didn't include free birth control (even if you are a post menopausal woman) or maternity care (for men).


Yeah, that's how insurance works.  That's how it's always worked.  People who don't use the medical service pay for the people who do use it.
 
2014-01-01 11:35:09 AM
Great, people have health care, and the insurance companies are making billions off this law because they had a big hand in writing it.  And the people who actually wrote it are making millions because only they can decipher it for everyone else.  And people are forced to get coverage for more than they need/want.  Young people shouldn't need much more than catastrophic coverage with a high deductible.  Older people who generally need more health care also tend to have more money to afford higher premiums.  All these young people who have championed health care for all have gotten screwed and they don't even realize it.
 
2014-01-01 11:35:51 AM

itsdan: SauronWasFramed: But there were 15 million that were uninsured and another 5 million that lost their policies because they didn't include free birth control (even if you are a post menopausal woman) or maternity care (for men).

And if you're a young person it covers arthritis even if you aren't likely to have it for decades, that's how insurance works. My insurance covers cancer treatment even if I don't currently have cancer. My car insurance covers accidents even if I'm not currently in an accident.




But have your policies been declared null and void by the government?
 
2014-01-01 11:36:40 AM

Mrbogey: Always talk about the success of a failure in the ephemeral. Never allow the facts to be introduced because nothing can be defeated if kept nebulous and theoretical.


*facepalm* at least read the article.
 
2014-01-01 11:36:48 AM

Mrbogey: derp


"Sorry folks. It's the law of the land. Nothing can be done." -- some troll
 
2014-01-01 11:36:57 AM

SauronWasFramed: So we have 3 million that have signed up.

But there were 15 million that were uninsured and another 5 million that lost their policies because they didn't include free birth control (even if you are a post menopausal woman) or maternity care (for men).


I pay collision on my car insurance, and I've never been in a crash.  Thanks, Obama
 
2014-01-01 11:38:06 AM

Farnn: Young people shouldn't need much more than catastrophic coverage with a high deductible.


Yup. They don't need it, right up until they do.

SauronWasFramed: But have your policies been declared null and void by the government?


Lol.
 
2014-01-01 11:41:07 AM

TV's Vinnie: FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.

You forgot to add Sauron, Voldemort, and Davros as well.


I haven't been able to break out this overkill of a list in awhile...

Authoritarian Collectivist Dictator-for-life and PresiDebt BaReefer HUSSEIN Fartbama al-Chicago is more evil than the combined evil of Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Vladmir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Josef Mengele, Vlad the Impaler, Emperor Hirohito, Ivan the Terrible, King Leopold II, Idi Amin, the Ayatollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Attila the Hun, Elizabeth Bathory, Irma Grese, Queen Isabella, Timothy McVeigh, James Holmes, Anders Breivik, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, the Zodiac Killer, Jeffrey Dahmer, Albert Fish, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Lord Voldemort, Sauron, Hannibal Lecter, Vito and Michael Corleone, Nurse Ratched, Joffrey Baratheon, Aerys Targaryan, Magneto, Lex Luthor, the Joker, Galactus, Thanos, Davros, the Master, Rassilon, Cthulhu, Beelzebub, and Satan all tetrated to the hyperpower of Graham's number.
 
2014-01-01 11:41:19 AM
Thankfully, some of us are still unable to partake of the ebil insurance because we live in states that didn't expand medicare/medicaid.  Thanks Kansas GOP for keeping me safe from affordable healthcare!
 
2014-01-01 11:42:21 AM
"Millions"
 
2014-01-01 11:42:24 AM
Some consumers will go to doctors, hospitals and drugstores believing they have enrolled in a health plan, only to find that the company has no record of them. That is what happened in January 2006 when a prescription drug benefit was added to Medicare.

And, as we all know, that failure literally destroyed America.
 
2014-01-01 11:44:05 AM

SauronWasFramed: But have your policies been declared null and void by the government?


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"Yep!"
 
2014-01-01 11:44:06 AM

FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.


They will excuse the ridiculous rhetoric on the grounds that they were passionate about it.

Next tactic is obviously to trot out as many 'victims' as they can, but that will get boring fast.

The interesting thing will be whether Fox news holds their feet to the fire and asks the GOP

1) are you going to take away people's newly acquired insurance?

2) if not, how will you change it (in a way that satisfies TP) ?
 
2014-01-01 11:47:40 AM

theknuckler_33: "Many people will get insurance cards, but will not have a clue what's covered, what's not covered and what they are supposed to pay."

For goodness sakes, it's not rocket surgery. If the bolded part is true, it is basically because those people are idiots and hasn't a damned thing to do with the ACA.


My wife's last policy had a card and I knew very well how much it cost, but had no idea if it would cover anything. Her new policy can't deny her coverage because of her past medical conditions (fibromyalgia), so I'd say that's a definite improvement.
 
2014-01-01 11:47:42 AM

Mrbogey: Always talk about the success of a failure in the ephemeral.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
 
2014-01-01 11:48:49 AM

Serious Black: TV's Vinnie: FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.

You forgot to add Sauron, Voldemort, and Davros as well.

I haven't been able to break out this overkill of a list in awhile...

Authoritarian Collectivist Dictator-for-life and PresiDebt BaReefer HUSSEIN Fartbama al-Chicago is more evil than the combined evil of Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Vladmir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Josef Mengele, Vlad the Impaler, Emperor Hirohito, Ivan the Terrible, King Leopold II, Idi Amin, the Ayatollah Khomeini, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Attila the Hun, Elizabeth Bathory, Irma Grese, Queen Isabella, Timothy McVeigh, James Holmes, Anders Breivik, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, the Zodiac Killer, Jeffrey Dahmer, Albert Fish, Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, Lord Voldemort, Sauron, Hannibal Lecter, Vito and Michael Corleone, Nurse Ratched, Joffrey Baratheon, Aerys Targaryan, Magneto, Lex Luthor, the Joker, Galactus, Thanos, Davros, the Master, Rassilon, Cthulhu, Beelzebub, and Satan all tetrated to the hyperpower of Graham's number.


Where are the Kingpin, Doctor Doom, Arioch and Torak?
 
2014-01-01 11:51:18 AM
For many admirers of Jesus, it remains His responsibility to minister to the sick and the poor. So there.
 
2014-01-01 11:52:35 AM

mjjt: The interesting thing will be whether Fox news holds their feet to the fire


The answer is they won't.
 
2014-01-01 11:52:43 AM

SauronWasFramed: So we have 3 million that have signed up.

But there were 15 million that were uninsured and another 5 million that lost their policies because they didn't include free birth control (even if you are a post menopausal woman) or maternity care (for men).

In other words we are whooping it up because there are 2 million less insured.


/ if you can't afford the premiums, how will you pay the deductibles?

//  my bronze policy quote:$940 a month with a $12600 deductible. No subsidy. Not affordable


That sounds strange to me. My wife and kid were on a policy - bare bones and expensive , as she had cancer 10 years ago. Her policy, about $550 per month, was so crappy it didn't meet minimum ACA standards. So BC/BS forced her onto their shiattiest ACA compliant bronze plan. $240 a month for the two of them for better coverage than she had. Deductible lower than your quote, too. Not saying that's not the quote you got, but that seems strange.
 
2014-01-01 11:53:36 AM

cameroncrazy1984: Mrbogey: Always talk about the success of a failure in the ephemeral. Never allow the facts to be introduced because nothing can be defeated if kept nebulous and theoretical.

*facepalm* at least read the article.


I did. That's why I'm mocking the retards who support the law. The key thing is the hard numbers of people who actually are covered who previously had no insurance isn't stated.

It's rhetorical car keys being jingled in the face of people with the intellectual faculties of a child. It offers nothing more than smug entertainment for people who have completely failed but are too stupid to realize it. The naive. The ignorant. The dumb. All working together to derp us a better future made of potato.
 
2014-01-01 11:55:22 AM
Is it the people who lost their previous insurance because of the new law signing up for new insurance or is it really those 15,29,40 million people who did not have it in the first place? (I don't think anyone really new how many uninsured there were  but I heard those numbers during the passing of the bill)
 
2014-01-01 11:57:04 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: SauronWasFramed:

/ if you can't afford the premiums, how will you pay the deductibles?

//  my bronze policy quote:$940 a month with a $12600 deductible. No subsidy. Not affordable

That sounds strange to me. My wife and kid were on a policy - bare bones and expensive , as she had cancer 10 years ago. Her policy, about $550 per month, was so crappy it didn't meet minimum ACA standards. So BC/BS forced her onto their shiattiest ACA compliant bronze plan. $240 a month for the two of them for better coverage than she had. Deductible lower than your quote, too. Not saying that's not the quote you got, but that seems strange.


Nope, you're correct. He's either lying or has enough health problems that it's probably just time to head out to pasture and check out the rabbits.

My bronze is $165/mo with a $5,000 deductible.
 
2014-01-01 11:59:02 AM

Granny_Panties: 19 Kilo: TV's Vinnie: FlashHarry: remember: to republicans, this is literally worse than hitler, stalin and al qaeda combined.

You forgot to add Sauron, Voldemort, and Davros as well.

Apparently Sauron was framed.

He was a big eye on top of a tower. I didn't see any frame.


Are you sure you didn't just miss it?
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