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(The Local)   Survey shows state-funded "Swedish for Immigrants" course has 36 percent failure rate in terms of immigrants who can speak Swedish outside class. Expert blames Swedes for being too taciturn and shy to chat with language rookies   (thelocal.se) divider line 36
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2014-01-01 02:19:12 AM
 
2014-01-01 06:43:14 AM
I had a problem opposite of that when I was trying to learn Russian.  They weren't taciturn at ALL, and were not shy at ALL about telling me how ignorant I was.  Stupid Russians ;)
 
2014-01-01 06:46:43 AM
Swedish bakery. Hot pie. Cake. Bork bork bork.
 
2014-01-01 06:47:18 AM
64% success rate. People from Swederland are so negative.
 
2014-01-01 06:51:53 AM
So a 64% success rate for teaching immigrants a whole new language (even if it's just enough to get buy on in day-to-day life)?

Learning a new language is HARD, especially if you're not a kid anymore, not to mention if your mother tongue has a different grammatical structure.
 
2014-01-01 06:53:47 AM
Ah, now this... as an ex-Colonial now living permanently in Sweden and having taken that very course I don't actually have more to add. Swedish is a pretty simple language to pick up. Freeze, Froze, Frozen becomes Frysa, Frus, Frusit..... basically speaking like a drunk will do it....
 
2014-01-01 06:57:44 AM
"To become a part of society, to get a job or take part in what is happening at your child's school then you must speak Swedish," Susanne Christenson of Eductus told the TT news agency.

Makes perfect sense to me, yet say something like that here in the U.S. and you're deemed a racist.
 
2014-01-01 07:03:06 AM

ReapTheChaos: Makes perfect sense to me, yet say something like that here in the U.S. and you're deemed a racist.


Swedenland doesn't have Mexico on one border, much less Canadiacistanis ;)
 
2014-01-01 07:07:11 AM

ReapTheChaos: "To become a part of society, to get a job or take part in what is happening at your child's school then you must speak Swedish," Susanne Christenson of Eductus told the TT news agency.

Makes perfect sense to me, yet say something like that here in the U.S. and you're deemed a racist.


Well, duh. Anyone who expects everyone in the US to speak Swedish is obviously a Nazi. Here in California you need Spanish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese and Punjabi. WhyTF should WE learn Swedish? They can go be blond somewhere else.
 
2014-01-01 07:28:42 AM
"Hello" = "Bork"
"Where is the restroom? = "Bork?"
"I wish to purchase a prostitute" = "Bork" (while gesturing towards genitals)
 
2014-01-01 07:31:50 AM
The problem is that every Swede speaks perfect English and it's just easy to get lazy with it. I've lived here 11 years and hardly ever resort to my Swedish.
 
2014-01-01 07:39:00 AM

Smoking GNU: So a 64% success rate for teaching immigrants a whole new language (even if it's just enough to get buy on in day-to-day life)?

Learning a new language is HARD, especially if you're not a kid anymore, not to mention if your mother tongue has a different grammatical structure.


This. I moved to Norway 8 yrs ago and speak at a 2 yr old level. I just speak English everywhere.

I understand it fluently, read it fluently, but write it for shiat.

It hardly matters-- I earn a ton of money here.
 
2014-01-01 07:42:38 AM
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Eh, the locals skeap english anywya, so fuggadaboutit.

/yeah, I know it's set in Norway.
 
2014-01-01 07:49:37 AM
Hej, Raring!   Jag har en tolv tums penis!
 
2014-01-01 08:11:16 AM

swahnhennessy: The problem is that every Swede speaks perfect English and it's just easy to get lazy with it. I've lived here 11 years and hardly ever resort to my Swedish.


That they do, at least many of them. I have run into a few that don't speak English at all, and some that speak it on about the same level as my Swedish. The only times I have asked for a translator is when I go to vårdcentralen and want to be precise about something medical.

I've also found that once someone finds out that I am American they pretty much insist on being able to speak English so they can practice.

My personal experience with SFI was less than satisfactory since I was in class with many other immigrants, so we all had crappy accents and it was nothing like speaking Swedish with a Swede. That and many of the students continued to speak their mother tongue when we did small group assignments in class. Not helpful at all.
 
2014-01-01 08:38:14 AM

ReapTheChaos: "To become a part of society, to get a job or take part in what is happening at your child's school then you must speak Swedish," Susanne Christenson of Eductus told the TT news agency.

Makes perfect sense to me, yet say something like that here in the U.S. and you're deemed a racist.


Maybe if we offered the same type of training resources to immigrants.  Try finding an open space in an ESL class when you're working two full-time jobs.
 
2014-01-01 08:45:51 AM

grumpytroll: Ah, now this... as an ex-Colonial now living permanently in Sweden and having taken that very course I don't actually have more to add. Swedish is a pretty simple language to pick up. Freeze, Froze, Frozen becomes Frysa, Frus, Frusit..... basically speaking like a drunk will do it....


http://satwcomic.com/language-lesson
 
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2014-01-01 08:50:47 AM

Huggermugger: Maybe if we offered the same type of training resources to immigrants. Try finding an open space in an ESL class when you're working two full-time jobs.


Or not allowed to participate in a mixed gender class.
 
2014-01-01 08:51:06 AM
What they need to do is ban the use of any foreign language.

That would fix things.
 
2014-01-01 09:03:13 AM
Sounds like here.

I love my  acquaintances who don'have time to talk to people with weak language skills. Those poor foreigners suck because they were't born speaking the language like us superior humans.
 
2014-01-01 09:09:42 AM

Cheese eating surrender monkey:
Eh, the locals skeap english anywya, so fuggadaboutit.
img.fark.net
/yeah, I know it's set in Norway.


Kurt Wallendar is sending out a few of his boys to make sure you can always tell the difference.


www.creativeplanetnetwork.com
//Always amused when Swedish or Danish cop show characters roll their eyes when they have to go to Oslo. Must be the oil wells.
 
2014-01-01 09:26:01 AM
Meh, the Swedes pretty much all know how to speak English anyway.
 
2014-01-01 09:27:00 AM
100% of subby has a reading comprehension failure. "Does" speak with Swedes outside of class != "can" speak with Swedes.
 
2014-01-01 09:27:57 AM
But state-funded Eurososhulist warrgarbl, I imagine
 
2014-01-01 10:46:13 AM
How To Speak Danish:

1.  Get a Swede drunk.
2.  Stuff his mouth food.
3.  Have him speak.

What will come out of his mouth will sound an awful lot like Danish.
 
2014-01-01 10:47:59 AM

ReapTheChaos: "To become a part of society, to get a job or take part in what is happening at your child's school then you must speak Swedish," Susanne Christenson of Eductus told the TT news agency.

Makes perfect sense to me, yet say something like that here in the U.S. and you're deemed a racist.


Swedish is Sweden's OFFICIAL language.  The U.S. doesn't have an official language.
 
2014-01-01 10:59:25 AM
Did this guy pass?

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2014-01-01 11:54:00 AM
shariaunveiled.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-01-01 11:58:01 AM
I'd love to learn Swedish. I have learned a few words. But then I found out Swedish people speak English and they're shy and wont' talk to you anyway. So if I did learn Swedish and went to Sweden I'd be just talking to myself I guess. I can do that at home. Though I think Swedish people are super attractive so I could always just look at them and talk to myself. Cause that's not creepy.
 
2014-01-01 12:01:14 PM

AutumnWind: I'd love to learn Swedish. I have learned a few words. But then I found out Swedish people speak English and they're shy and wont' talk to you anyway. So if I did learn Swedish and went to Sweden I'd be just talking to myself I guess. I can do that at home. Though I think Swedish people are super attractive so I could always just look at them and talk to myself. Cause that's not creepy.


If you'd take you hands out of your pants, it would be less creepy.
 
2014-01-01 12:18:44 PM

Clemkadidlefark: [shariaunveiled.files.wordpress.com image 627x375]


I'm not muslim, may I rape her?
 
2014-01-01 01:12:01 PM

FizixJunkee: How To Speak Danish:

1.  Get a Swede drunk.
2.  Stuff his mouth food.
3.  Have him speak.

What will come out of his mouth will sound an awful lot like Danish.


Godt Nytår!
 
2014-01-01 02:32:00 PM

FizixJunkee: How To Speak Danish:

1.  Get a Swede drunk.
2.  Stuff his mouth food. pastry.
3.  Have him speak.

What will come out of his mouth will look andsound an awful lot like Danish.


FTFY
 
2014-01-01 03:26:27 PM

NotARocketScientist: FizixJunkee: How To Speak Danish:

1.  Get a Swede drunk.
2.  Stuff his mouth food. pastry.
3.  Have him speak.

What will come out of his mouth will look andsound an awful lot like Danish.

FTFY


No. From what everyone has always told me I'm pretty sure this only works if the food in question is a warm boiled potato ;-)

/Taler dansk til andet sprog og engelsk til foerst.
/Stupid non-international keyboard. I want my slashed 'o'.
/slashies!
 
2014-01-01 08:10:27 PM
If you are a stranger in Sweden, it takes more effort to break the ice.  It is not that they are being racist (in this at least) - they are just being Swedish.

Immigrating to a new country doesn't mean the host country has to change to accommodate you. Ideally, you should be treated just like any other Carl, Gustuv or Sven.
 
2014-01-02 04:58:51 PM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: ReapTheChaos: "To become a part of society, to get a job or take part in what is happening at your child's school then you must speak Swedish," Susanne Christenson of Eductus told the TT news agency.

Makes perfect sense to me, yet say something like that here in the U.S. and you're deemed a racist.

Well, duh. Anyone who expects everyone in the US to speak Swedish is obviously a Nazi. Here in California you need Spanish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese and Punjabi. WhyTF should WE learn Swedish? They can go be blond somewhere else.


like minnesota!
 
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