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(Slate)   Imagine a drug that treated and prevented the various chronic diseases that afflict Americans today. Now imagine it's safe, readily available and totally free. Well, it exists. The bad news? It's called exercise   (slate.com) divider line 42
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2013-12-31 06:16:07 PM
How many different websites are going to host this advertisement for this shiathead's book while treating it like an article?
 
2013-12-31 06:42:31 PM
At least one?
 
2013-12-31 07:02:55 PM
At least two.
 
2013-12-31 07:48:53 PM
Jim Fixx sez otherwise.
 
2013-12-31 07:49:54 PM
Yeah, but the 'magic pill' takes hours a day to dose, and leaves you tired and sore the first few weeks. It also is one of the leading causes of injuries.
 
2013-12-31 07:50:19 PM
totally free

Time is money.
 
2013-12-31 07:50:36 PM
You're still not convincing me!
 
2013-12-31 07:50:56 PM
Not worth it.
 
2013-12-31 07:51:03 PM

fredklein: Yeah, but the 'magic pill' takes hours a day to dose, and leaves you tired and sore the first few weeks. It also is one of the leading causes of injuries.


Sounds like chemotherapy.  Some people choose to die rather than finish their chemo.
 
2013-12-31 07:51:13 PM
Fark had this same headline almost verbatim a couple months ago.

/like an elephant, I am
 
2013-12-31 07:51:26 PM
12 oz. curls.
 
2013-12-31 07:52:25 PM

Shadi: totally free

Time is money.


Fallacy. Very few people are paid for the 15+ hours a day they spend sleeping and doing personal stuff. Spend an hour a day exercising or watching TV, your choice. Neither deprives you of income.
 
2013-12-31 07:52:35 PM
Nice try
 
2013-12-31 07:53:53 PM

Jument: Shadi: totally free

Time is money.

Fallacy. Very few people are paid for the 15+ hours a day they spend sleeping and doing personal stuff. Spend an hour a day exercising or watching TV, your choice. Neither deprives you of income.


Cable TV or a gym membership anyone?
 
2013-12-31 07:54:25 PM
Exercise?  Fark you!  No way!  This is part of that socialist, muslim, Kenyan, atheist death panel scheme!

*wheeze*  now get out of the way of my Hooveround.   *wheeze*  I got to check my blood sugar for my insulin shoot.  *wheeze*  Then I gots to get me more cigarettes.
Lookin pretty good for 28 years old and 58% body fat, hunh?
 
2013-12-31 07:54:42 PM
Exercise, right!  Next you'll be telling me that eating right and in moderation is good for you.  Goldurn health Nazis!
 
2013-12-31 07:57:12 PM
I run 12 miles (or so) a week, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

Really. All of you wanting to make resolutions to be healthier, please don't. I don't want to have to fight for gym equipment for the first few weeks of the year.

/ok, I run to offset my drinking
//judge me
 
2013-12-31 07:58:47 PM
It's called Marijuana, not this asshat's book.
 
2013-12-31 07:58:50 PM

fredklein: Yeah, but the 'magic pill' takes hours a day to dose, and leaves you tired and sore the first few weeks. It also is one of the leading causes of injuries.


side effects: excessive sweating, shortness of breath, increased appetite, nausea, feeling of light-headedness, increased desire to wear spandex and other ill-fitting clothes, increased levels of smug, increased viewing of yoga pants, exposure to frat-bros, douches and dumbbells; and other side effects.
 
2013-12-31 07:59:56 PM

Jument: Shadi: totally free

Time is money.

Fallacy. Very few people are paid for the 15+ hours a day they spend sleeping and doing personal stuff. Spend an hour a day exercising or watching TV, your choice. Neither deprives you of income.


But they both have opportunity costs. You're giving up the option to be doing something else.

you could be working a second job. You could be jacking it to internet porn, etc.
 
2013-12-31 08:00:51 PM

Prey4reign: Exercise, right!  Next you'll be telling me that eating right and in moderation is good for you.  Goldurn health Nazis!


update: the healthy part of an egg is now the shell, the rest can be thrown away.
 
2013-12-31 08:02:55 PM
Am I the only person who thought they were going to say grow your own Marijuana?
 
2013-12-31 08:04:54 PM
Didn't we go over this farkwit's book a few weeks ago? Sure, exercise...cure my brother's cancer. I'll wait.
 
2013-12-31 08:05:35 PM

dasc: Am I the only person who thought they were going to say grow your own Marijuana?


Gardening is good exercise.
 
2013-12-31 08:10:23 PM
We are all allotted a certain number of heartbeats. Not going to squander mine exercising.

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2013-12-31 08:10:51 PM

shtychkn: Jument: Shadi: totally free

Time is money.

Fallacy. Very few people are paid for the 15+ hours a day they spend sleeping and doing personal stuff. Spend an hour a day exercising or watching TV, your choice. Neither deprives you of income.

But they both have opportunity costs. You're giving up the option to be doing something else.

you could be working a second job. You could be jacking it to internet porn, etc.


For most people there is plenty of wasted time every day so there's effectively no opportunity cost, unless your jacking time is at a premium.
 
2013-12-31 08:11:06 PM

Bonzo_1116: Jument: Shadi: totally free

Time is money.

Fallacy. Very few people are paid for the 15+ hours a day they spend sleeping and doing personal stuff. Spend an hour a day exercising or watching TV, your choice. Neither deprives you of income.

Cable TV or a gym membership anyone?


Which is why, when I move, I'm cutting the cable.  I spend way too much time on useless crap.
 
2013-12-31 08:11:37 PM
Pete called. He wants his crappy as 'article' back.
 
2013-12-31 08:12:40 PM
Ignoring the time required to exercise, the study in question actually used cash money as in incentive to achieve the desired outcome; the unpaid control group didn't meet their goals.  So while it might be a good idea or might reduce other costs, it's not free.

/ The study also suggests the benefits are not necessarily long-lasting
 
2013-12-31 08:13:22 PM

SpdrJay: Jim Fixx sez otherwise.


So does "Pistol" Pete Maravich.
 
2013-12-31 08:14:16 PM

Jument: Fark had this same headline almost verbatim a couple months ago.

/like an elephant, I am


This. I don't thing it's even been a month though.
 
2013-12-31 08:14:50 PM
It's weird how many people get pissed off about simple factual truth about healthcare.
 
2013-12-31 08:15:07 PM

I declare Jizad!: I suffer from muscular jiztrophy, my only exercise is the internet and a bulk pack of paper towels!


Yes yes. We get it. Jizz.
 
2013-12-31 08:17:57 PM

Danger Avoid Death: SpdrJay: Jim Fixx sez otherwise.

So does "Pistol" Pete Maravich.


As I recall Jim Fixx was an overweight smoker most of his life with a family history of heart disease. His father died in his 40s.
Pistol Pete had a congenital heart defect that kills most people who suffer from it in their 20s.
 
2013-12-31 08:18:08 PM
Looks like we've got some hardcore carb addicts in this thread.
 
2013-12-31 08:24:42 PM
For most people there is plenty of wasted time every day so there's effectively no opportunity cost, unless your jacking time is at a premium.

My jacking time is, in fact, at a premium.
 
2013-12-31 08:25:32 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: Looks like we've got some hardcore carb addicts in this thread.


Shut up and pass the donuts.
 
2013-12-31 08:30:30 PM
Say 'no' to exercise, because three hours a week is so much more expensive than tens of thousands of dollars in medication and bills for things that can be prevented by exercise.

/yes, I mostly exercise because I really like to eat, but hate the idea of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and all that other preventable stuff.
 
2013-12-31 08:50:19 PM
TFA: Rather than mortgage our financial future on a bloated health care system that isn't doing a very good job of making us healthy, we'd be much better served by incentivizing people to get off the couch. Ideas to make this happen include lowering health care premiums based on activity levels: The more steps you take per month or year, the less you pay.

You know what else is safe, readily available, and totally free, and treats and prevents disease? Sleep.
You know what else Americans get too little of for optimal health, resulting in early mortality? Sleep. [citation]
You know who is endures the most sleep deprivation and attendant health consequences?
Low-income and disadvantaged Americans. [citation]
Obvious solution?
Financially incentivize a full night's sleep by paying the working poor take their allotted forty winks each night.
 
2013-12-31 09:52:46 PM

pushcart: We are all allotted a certain number of heartbeats. Not going to squander mine exercising.


Exercise lowers your resting heart rate.  Elevated heart rate for 120 minutes a week.  Lowered heart rate for 10,000 minutes a week.  You do the math.

/0.0
 
2013-12-31 09:55:15 PM

ThrobblefootSpectre: pushcart: We are all allotted a certain number of heartbeats. Not going to squander mine exercising.

Exercise lowers your resting heart rate.  Elevated heart rate for 120 minutes a week.  Lowered heart rate for 10,000 minutes a week.  You do the math.

/0.0


I was told there would be no math.
 
2013-12-31 10:18:46 PM
Yes.  I get plenty of exercise just pushing my luck.

And yes. I thought they were talking about weed too.
 
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