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(YouTube)   And the moral of the story is that you never take a phone call from an astrophysicist   (youtube.com) divider line 23
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2013-12-31 05:06:28 PM
Sure, you can do all of that, but then you have to code for IE.
 
2013-12-31 05:07:20 PM
I keep getting calls from Schroedinger's Cat, but when I pick up, no one's there....
 
2013-12-31 05:47:02 PM

SpdrJay: I keep getting calls from Schroedinger's Cat, but when I pick up, no one's there....


that's creepy man. lol.

i came to say how boring the video was, but your comment made it all worthwhile. thanks
 
2013-12-31 05:54:36 PM
"Then you get the call from the Russian historian..."

...and I say, "Nobody likes a smartass. It counts seconds. Deal with it."
 
2013-12-31 06:03:59 PM
Didn't watch the video but have done plenty of I8N programming and dealing with timezones. Using UTC and the Olson tz database helps immensely. It was pretty farked up a few years ago when the Olson database was taken offline for months  by an astrology company making a copyright claim on timezone. They were eventually laughed out of court but it was a PITA while that got worked out. It's amazing that something so useful and important could be removed from public access because someone who believes in astrology also believed they had ownership over timezone information.

Now dealing with the Islamic calendar... that's a minor nightmare. Luckily most companies located in the Middle East are reasonable about using the common calendar.
 
2013-12-31 06:06:14 PM
I see he has it covered, but...

cal 9 1752
 
2013-12-31 06:38:54 PM
Yes, I'll take the message.  "There once was a man from Venus, who had a rocket ship for a-" Hey!
 
2013-12-31 06:58:36 PM
And where, pray tell, can I find this global, universal timekeeping utility that takes all this into account? I have this fascination for Feb 3rd, 1544 at 1:17 PM in Constantinople.
 
2013-12-31 08:06:32 PM

some_beer_drinker: SpdrJay: I keep getting calls from Schroedinger's Cat, but when I pick up, no one's there....

that's creepy man. lol.

i came to say how boring the video was, but your comment made it all worthwhile. thanks


The guy who started that YouTube channel has a very traditional academic focus, so his videos usually aren't as polished as e.g. SciShow or Veritasium.  In most videos, he basically asks a question of a professor at the University of Nottingham (although I don't think the guy in this particular video is a professor), and then films their answer.

That being said, sometimes the topics he covers are interesting enough that the videos are fun to watch, despite the lack of polish.
 
2013-12-31 08:09:24 PM
 
2013-12-31 08:24:45 PM
UTC-1 or get off the grid. Make analog sun clocks correspond to your living areas. Don't worry about the stars. You're not going there anyway. Moon and mars are kinda okay because they're UTC-1 compliant. Don't like it? Start your own religion but keep your hands of my daughter until we have trade negotiations.
 
2013-12-31 10:49:23 PM
Lousy Smarch weather...
 
2013-12-31 10:54:36 PM

buckler: And where, pray tell, can I find this global, universal timekeeping utility that takes all this into account? I have this fascination for Feb 3rd, 1544 at 1:17 PM in Constantinople.


Even Old New York was once New Amsterdam.
 
2013-12-31 10:58:00 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: buckler: And where, pray tell, can I find this global, universal timekeeping utility that takes all this into account? I have this fascination for Feb 3rd, 1544 at 1:17 PM in Constantinople.

Even Old New York was once New Amsterdam.


Hey, maybe he just likes it better that way.
 
2013-12-31 11:43:53 PM

TheWhoppah: Time Zones  ->  Leap Second  -->  Psilocybin will help you understand time zones. Eleven.
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I was thinking of this when I was watching the article.

Didn't expect it to show up in the thread, though.
 
2014-01-01 12:33:10 AM
Most of the other weirdness i can maybe see how it happened and why it persists, but who the hell thinks being a fractional hour off from the rest of the world is a good idea? I'm looking at you, Nepal.
 
2014-01-01 01:25:24 AM
Sounds a little wibbly-wobbly.
 
2014-01-01 03:37:24 AM

jjorsett: Most of the other weirdness i can maybe see how it happened and why it persists, but who the hell thinks being a fractional hour off from the rest of the world is a good idea? I'm looking at you, Nepal.


Newfoundland is half hour off.
 
2014-01-01 09:11:04 AM
This guy is an idiot and a douchebag and should be kept far away from any keyboard.

As a programmer myslef, dealing with time zones is sort of a pain in the ass, but it's really one of the more simple things I've had to do.

/I still support moving towards everyone setting their clocks to UTC.
 
2014-01-01 09:35:26 AM

gfid: This guy is an idiot and a douchebag and should be kept far away from any keyboard.

As a programmer myslef, dealing with time zones is sort of a pain in the ass, but it's really one of the more simple things I've had to do.

/I still support moving towards everyone setting their clocks to UTC.


"Back in my day we woke up at 7:00 and went to bed at 23:00! None of this newfangled 10:00 to 2:00."

/The social inertia would be fun to watch
 
2014-01-01 10:25:55 AM

gfid: This guy is an idiot and a douchebag and should be kept far away from any keyboard.

As a programmer myslef, dealing with time zones is sort of a pain in the ass, but it's really one of the more simple things I've had to do.


I had the same reaction.  Just use the tz database and have done with it, sez I.

And then he said the same thing.

Soooo... CSB?
 
2014-01-01 11:53:10 AM

andrewagill: gfid: This guy is an idiot and a douchebag and should be kept far away from any keyboard.

As a programmer myslef, dealing with time zones is sort of a pain in the ass, but it's really one of the more simple things I've had to do.

I had the same reaction.  Just use the tz database and have done with it, sez I.

And then he said the same thing.

Soooo... CSB?


If you want to be a good programmer, it sometimes helps to know what the third-party libraries you depend on are actually doing.
 
2014-01-01 01:16:45 PM

anfrind: andrewagill: gfid: This guy is an idiot and a douchebag and should be kept far away from any keyboard.

As a programmer myslef, dealing with time zones is sort of a pain in the ass, but it's really one of the more simple things I've had to do.

I had the same reaction.  Just use the tz database and have done with it, sez I.

And then he said the same thing.

Soooo... CSB?

If you want to be a good programmer, it sometimes helps to know what the third-party libraries you depend on are actually doing.


The libraries that you depend on are reading from a database.  Would you similarly suggest that anyone who makes a phone book app should personally verify every number?
 
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