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(CNN)   Obama is eating crackers like he owns the place again as Conservatives are complaining that he's being too tough on crime by being the least merciful President by only pardoning 13 people so far   (cnn.com) divider line 77
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2013-12-31 12:24:00 PM
Here's a blurb about the author's father from Wikipedia:

Personal beliefs
Ruckman believes a fetus does not become a living soul until it is born and takes its first breath.[20] He believes in [21] Ruckman believes the [22]
In 1984, Ruckman wrote, "Negroes have to be carried. Where they are left to themselves they resort to mugging, rape, slavery, dope traffic, and eventually cannibalism.[23] In 1994, he wrote that "no matter how much integration is carried out, the IQ of blacks is always lower than whites."[24] In 1997, Ruckman claimed that Attorney General [25]


Does the apple fall far from the tree here?
 
2013-12-31 12:25:35 PM
The article mentioned the ACLU, the NYT, a libertarian think tank and one conservative columnist. I mean, I'd love this if Fox or GOP congressmen were complaining but it seems a little disingenuous.
 
2013-12-31 12:26:21 PM
I wouldn't let daddy's moronic beliefs to taint my view of the son.  I think he's doing a fine job or looking like a moron all on his own.
 
2013-12-31 12:35:10 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: Here's a blurb about the author's father from Wikipedia:

Personal beliefs
Ruckman believes a fetus does not become a living soul until it is born and takes its first breath.[20] He believes in [21] Ruckman believes the [22]
In 1984, Ruckman wrote, "Negroes have to be carried. Where they are left to themselves they resort to mugging, rape, slavery, dope traffic, and eventually cannibalism.[23] In 1994, he wrote that "no matter how much integration is carried out, the IQ of blacks is always lower than whites."[24] In 1997, Ruckman claimed that Attorney General [25]

Does the apple fall far from the tree here?


Yeah, my Dad has some pretty reprehensible opinions as well. This in no way reflects on me.
 
2013-12-31 12:38:04 PM
Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.
 
2013-12-31 12:50:50 PM
Just in case there are 3 or 4 people in the history of the Internet that *Don't* get the joke.

static.someecards.com
 
2013-12-31 12:51:36 PM
Being tough on crime has nothing to do with crime, and everything to do with acting and appearing tough.
 
2013-12-31 12:53:13 PM
Quality of sentencing get better = less pardons.
 
2013-12-31 12:53:49 PM
Well, he could really piss them off and release 90% of the prisoners in Gitmo, since we seemingly have nothing to charge them with (or have such weak cases, we're afraid to actually pursue them)
 
2013-12-31 12:53:51 PM
Fewer pardons. I beg your pardon.
 
2013-12-31 12:54:12 PM
biatch, whine, complain. Repeat.
 
2013-12-31 12:54:54 PM

serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.


This, so much.  The guy could personally discover and tap the worlds largest oil field, make the US completely energy independant, lower fuel prices, and create millions of jobs supporting the oil industry and the right would become more violently environmentalist than ELF.
 
2013-12-31 12:58:23 PM
www.funtroll.com
Seriously, I didn't care about Bush 1 or 2 nor Clinton, why should we?
 
2013-12-31 01:02:04 PM

UncomfortableSilence: This, so much. The guy could personally discover and tap the worlds largest oil field, make the US completely energy independant, lower fuel prices, and create millions of jobs supporting the oil industry and the right would become more violently environmentalist than ELF.


He could do that, then cure cancer the next day and they'd argue that cancer wasn't actually that bad. He could erase the entire national debt, and they'd moan that debt is a good thing to have. World peace? We all know they like war. Eradicate obesity and they'd all become chubby chasers.  NOTHING would be good enough for them. Nothing.
 
2013-12-31 01:04:42 PM
Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
 
2013-12-31 01:04:49 PM
Which 13. He has a bigger list than that apparently.
 
2013-12-31 01:05:40 PM

UncomfortableSilence: serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.

This, so much.  The guy could personally discover and tap the worlds largest oil field, make the US completely energy independant, lower fuel prices, and create millions of jobs supporting the oil industry and the right would become more violently environmentalist than ELF.


But he wouldn't do any of that if he could, so we don't really have a good basis for comparison.
 
2013-12-31 01:05:46 PM
Googlinc Ruckmnan shows he was advocating greater use of the presidential pardon power going back well before Obama took office and arguing that the people who do get pardons tend to need them the least.
 
2013-12-31 01:06:57 PM

ChipNASA: Just in case there are 3 or 4 people in the history of the Internet that *Don't* get the joke.

[static.someecards.com image 420x294]


That looks more like toast....

And yes, who the hell cares.  It's not like he pardoned Jack the Ripper.
 
2013-12-31 01:07:49 PM

bigwf2007: Googlinc Ruckmnan shows he was advocating greater use of the presidential pardon power going back well before Obama took office and arguing that the people who do get pardons tend to need them the least.


Doesn't agree
www.historyplace.com
 
2013-12-31 01:07:52 PM

serpent_sky: He could do that, then cure cancer the next day and they'd argue that cancer wasn't actually that bad.


They'd complain that he was putting family doctors out of business.

serpent_sky: He could erase the entire national debt, and they'd moan that debt is a good thing to have.


They'd claim it was a result of him finally taking their advice (no matter what he actually did to accomplish the feat).

serpent_sky: Eradicate obesity and they'd all become chubby chasers.


They'd complain he was putting snack food makers, and therefore family potato farmers, out of business.

serpent_sky: NOTHING would be good enough for them. Nothing.

littlefun.org
 
2013-12-31 01:07:55 PM

Bareefer Obonghit: The article mentioned the ACLU, the NYT, a libertarian think tank and one conservative columnist. I mean, I'd love this if Fox or GOP congressmen were complaining but it seems a little disingenuous.


Don't bring actual information into this thread. It's for people to let their hate out on anything they don't like.
 
2013-12-31 01:09:15 PM
Obama is eating crackers!?

dancingwithnoah.files.wordpress.com

RUN AWAY!
 
2013-12-31 01:10:25 PM
{insert Republican running for Congress here} is Soft on Crime! {insert Republican running for Congress here}'s party wants to free violent criminals, child rapists, and drug dealers out into the street in mass? Can you trust your child's safety with him in office? Vote for {insert Democratic running for Congress here}.
 
2013-12-31 01:18:05 PM

serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.


Gotta admit, I have a hard time finding fault in anything Obama does. There has been such an incredible gush of tears and bullshiat ever since the '08 campaign that I'm really quick to write off any criticism as more whiny biatch fits. Sorry, that's what happens when you blow your credibility load on "Oh my god, *muslim*!" and "Oh my god, *foreigner*!". Reinforce it with the "Obamacare is a violation of the constitution!" rather than making better arguments about why it's not going to fix healthcare costs, and I might have listened, too late now.

So sad. Screw y'all for crying wolf over stupid irrelevant hysterics.
 
2013-12-31 01:20:42 PM
Conservatives don't even know what they want/think anymore outside of "we hate everything Obama does", so of course, they are going to be ticked off by whatever he does or doesn't do. It's just a constant outrage machine they've built.
 
2013-12-31 01:23:34 PM
Guess this doesn't include his Wall St. Cronies and Bush Admins since none of them even went trail let alone jail.
 
2013-12-31 01:28:23 PM
Sounds like Rich and Powerful People Problems, mmeehh.

Get back to me when the reparations for farking your life, home and family for pot possession start.
 
2013-12-31 01:28:55 PM
The New York Times and ACLU are the main groups outspokenly critical of the President on this?  When will these right-wing nut job media and advocacy groups learn to keep their mouths shut!?!
 
2013-12-31 01:29:17 PM

flynn80: Guess this doesn't include his Wall St. Cronies and Bush Admins since none of them even went trail let alone jail.


Now, that sounds like a net cash savings to me.
Thanks Obama!
 
2013-12-31 01:29:22 PM

jaybeezey: UncomfortableSilence: serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.

This, so much.  The guy could personally discover and tap the worlds largest oil field, make the US completely energy independant, lower fuel prices, and create millions of jobs supporting the oil industry and the right would become more violently environmentalist than ELF.

But he wouldn't do any of that if he could, so we don't really have a good basis for comparison.


He wants all Americans to have health care, and the Republicans have gone off the f*cling plot trying to convince people it's better that tens of millions of our citizens shouldn't be treated and instead left to die. So... yea, I think we do have a good basis for comparison.
 
2013-12-31 01:30:41 PM

demarke: The New York Times and ACLU are the main groups outspokenly critical of the President on this?  When will these right-wing nut job media and advocacy groups learn to keep their mouths shut!?!


When the silliest damn thing as a "statement" fails to raise the derp factor.
,
,
,
,which is too damn high!
 
2013-12-31 01:36:27 PM
Tea parties won't see past race.

Conservatives (actual conservatives) are pissed because they know that Obama is the candidate they really want on a sliding scale of political opinions and can't have because of the Tea party.

It's like politicians are two years old.
 
2013-12-31 01:38:22 PM

Syrrh: serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.

Gotta admit, I have a hard time finding fault in anything Obama does. There has been such an incredible gush of tears and bullshiat ever since the '08 campaign that I'm really quick to write off any criticism as more whiny biatch fits. Sorry, that's what happens when you blow your credibility load on "Oh my god, *muslim*!" and "Oh my god, *foreigner*!". Reinforce it with the "Obamacare is a violation of the constitution!" rather than making better arguments about why it's not going to fix healthcare costs, and I might have listened, too late now.

So sad. Screw y'all for crying wolf over stupid irrelevant hysterics.


EXACTLY.
Arugula.
His wife's campaign against obesity.
His wife not smiling to their liking.
Mustard.
BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!
Eastwood representing the party talking to a goddamned chair.

How can they expect anyone to take anything they say seriously?
 
2013-12-31 01:41:06 PM
Here's an interview with Ruckman from 2008, before Obama took office, defending the pardon power and criticizing mandatory minimum sentences.
 http://www.onthemedia.org/story/131248-beg-your-pardon/transcript/


And here's what he wrote on his blog towards the end of the George W. Bush administration

Now comes the end of the administration of George W. Bush. When he came to office eight years ago, he wrapped himself in the theme of "compassionate conservatism" - a theme which critics feel has yet to be operationalized in any meaningful way.  Regardless, today, out in a space of land much much larger than the Western District of Arkansas are thousands and thousands of prisoners who have experienced the harsh administration of mandatory minimum sentences. Many of them are first-time offenders who committed non-violent offenses. They have learned - as has everyone affected by their imprisonment - that the justice system can construct huge, impressive mechanical devices to automatically send "signals."  But, now, Mr. President, maybe now more than ever, it is time for them to also learn that criminal justice in the United States is not the duty and function of a single branch of our government, or even two.  The courts may feel bound by the legislature.  And legislators may feel bound by constituents and public opinion.  But, in matters of criminal justice, President Bush, thanks to the U.S. Constitution, the only thing that constrains you is a compassionate human being's idea of the right thing to do, or not do.

Mr. President, reach into the thousands of clemency applications that are sitting in the Office of the Pardon Attorney right now - many of which have been sitting there for years and years - and do what you know is the right thing to do.  Do what should have been done when Mr. Clinton left office.  Use the pardon power as it was meant to be used - or at least use it in the manner in which it is best used - to round off the rough edges of justice without reference to personal and partisan considerations and with a sense of humility and, yes, compassion. In addition to giving real life meaning to the phrase "compassionate conservatism," you will enliven the the proverb we are all better off to remember, "There, but for the Grace of God, go I."


But go ahead and say he only cares about pardons because Obama is president.
 
2013-12-31 01:43:00 PM
Is the farking GOP too stupid to see what the Pope's new PR job is doing? Like succeeding all to snot?
Silly question.
They really should take at least a few notes.
 
2013-12-31 01:50:17 PM
Old white guy with glasses and giant forehead again?

*checks author pic*

Yup.
 
2013-12-31 01:53:42 PM
but he let his predecessor off on what the rest of the world considers war crimes, so there's that
 
2013-12-31 01:54:29 PM

demarke: The New York Times and ACLU are the main groups outspokenly critical of the President on this?  When will these right-wing nut job media and advocacy groups learn to keep their mouths shut!?!


He's either too mean, or not mean enough; it doesn't matter which side of the aisle you're on.
 
2013-12-31 02:17:48 PM
This is one thing that I am actually suprised by and I wonder why this number is so low. And as much as I can't stand what BOB is doing to the country, I am OK with this policy. But just this one!

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime...
 
2013-12-31 02:19:48 PM
He's saving his pardons for his friends and cronies. Three more years to go.
 
2013-12-31 02:22:03 PM
This just in, BOB is up to 14 Pardons.

0.tqn.com
 
2013-12-31 02:32:22 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-31 02:48:05 PM

serpent_sky: UncomfortableSilence: This, so much. The guy could personally discover and tap the worlds largest oil field, make the US completely energy independant, lower fuel prices, and create millions of jobs supporting the oil industry and the right would become more violently environmentalist than ELF.

He could do that, then cure cancer the next day and they'd argue that cancer wasn't actually that bad. He could erase the entire national debt, and they'd moan that debt is a good thing to have. World peace? We all know they like war. Eradicate obesity and they'd all become chubby chasers.  NOTHING would be good enough for them. Nothing.


Sure there is, he fire Biden, name Palin his VP, sign an executive order erradicating every bill that he supported, then he could step down, bang a tribal drum, move to his homeland of Kenya and shoot himself in the head before a ppv audience.
 
2013-12-31 02:48:27 PM

UncomfortableSilence: serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.

This, so much.  The guy could personally discover and tap the worlds largest oil field, make the US completely energy independant, lower fuel prices, and create millions of jobs supporting the oil industry and the right would become more violently environmentalist than ELF.


I recall that our last president could do nothing to appease the liberals. I guess it depends on whose Kenyan is being gored. Liberals have such short memories.

/Also: "Cracker" is a slang term for "Southern White Gentleman".  I doubt they would allow Obama to eat them.
//I know I wouldn't.
 
2013-12-31 02:52:03 PM

Lee451: /Also: "Cracker" is a slang term for "Southern White Gentleman". I doubt they would allow Obama to eat them.
//I know I wouldn't.


You know this is going to end up in some FWD: FWD e-mail as proof that Obama literally eats white people.
 
2013-12-31 02:52:38 PM

Syrrh: serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.

Gotta admit, I have a hard time finding fault in anything Obama does. There has been such an incredible gush of tears and bullshiat ever since the '08 campaign that I'm really quick to write off any criticism as more whiny biatch fits. Sorry, that's what happens when you blow your credibility load on "Oh my god, *muslim*!" and "Oh my god, *foreigner*!". Reinforce it with the "Obamacare is a violation of the constitution!" rather than making better arguments about why it's not going to fix healthcare costs, and I might have listened, too late now.

So sad. Screw y'all for crying wolf over stupid irrelevant hysterics.


There are lots of things I legitimately dislike about Obama's presidency such as the expansion of drone use and surveillance of law-abiding citizens and that Gitmo is still open. But any sound debate over these issues seem to just get drowned out in the CommieNaziBenghaziMooslimherpaderp noise.
 
2013-12-31 02:54:56 PM

Lee451: UncomfortableSilence: serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.

This, so much.  The guy could personally discover and tap the worlds largest oil field, make the US completely energy independant, lower fuel prices, and create millions of jobs supporting the oil industry and the right would become more violently environmentalist than ELF.

I recall that our last president could do nothing to appease the liberals. I guess it depends on whose Kenyan is being gored. Liberals have such short memories.

/Also: "Cracker" is a slang term for "Southern White Gentleman".  I doubt they would allow Obama to eat them.
//I know I wouldn't.


I realize that you're trolling, or someone let you out of Freeperville without your meds, but I am going to list one example of a valuable policy or goal that was met by the former President.  Declaring two wars, No Child Left Behind, drastic cuts to revenue putting us deeper into debt, or increasing deregulation leading us into a massive recession?
 
2013-12-31 03:18:02 PM

serpent_sky: Meanwhile, if he pardoned a few hundred people, he'd be a monster for releasing so many dangerous criminals.

As all of these stories go, there is absolutely nothing this man can do that will please the conservatives.


So glad we got a Democrat in office who's totally different than that conservative piece of shiat Romney.
 
2013-12-31 03:20:21 PM

skozlaw: serpent_sky: He could do that, then cure cancer the next day and they'd argue that cancer wasn't actually that bad.

They'd complain that he was putting family doctors out of business.

serpent_sky: He could erase the entire national debt, and they'd moan that debt is a good thing to have.

They'd claim it was a result of him finally taking their advice (no matter what he actually did to accomplish the feat).

serpent_sky: Eradicate obesity and they'd all become chubby chasers.

They'd complain he was putting snack food makers, and therefore family potato farmers, out of business.

serpent_sky: NOTHING would be good enough for them. Nothing.
[littlefun.org image 450x618]


It's got to be quite a chore nailing yourself to that cross all the time.
 
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