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(Think Progress)   Air Canada to married man: Oh, your wife didn't take your last name? No sharing travel vouchers for you, you emasculated little girl   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 111
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2013-12-31 12:11:14 PM
My wife didn't take my last name because she's not my property. Fu*k you.
 
2013-12-31 12:20:46 PM
Boo farking hoo.
 
2013-12-31 12:23:58 PM
My wife didn't take my last name because she didn't want to.

Air Canada is a horrible ariline, I'd rather swim to the UK than fly with them.
 
2013-12-31 12:45:31 PM

Pope Larry II: My wife didn't take my last name because she didn't want to.

Air Canada is a horrible ariline, I'd rather swim to the UK than fly with them.


Hating Air Canada: our second national pasttime.

Seriously, fark them, and fark them for making me support Quebec in a Quebec vs. Air Canada fight.
 
2013-12-31 12:54:16 PM
Blame Canada!
 
2013-12-31 01:00:50 PM
My wife took my  last name so she would stop getting dirty looks in job interviews and be treated better on phone calls.

Why yes she has a mexican last name, why do you ask?
 
2013-12-31 01:01:56 PM
My wife didn't take my last name because that hasn't been allowed in Quebec since the late seventies.
 
2013-12-31 01:06:15 PM
Happens to us all the damn time.
 
2013-12-31 01:09:19 PM
It's too bad he can't control his woman.
 
2013-12-31 01:14:38 PM

Pope Larry II: My wife didn't take my last name because she didn't want to.

Air Canada is a horrible ariline, I'd rather swim to the UK than fly with them.


Calmamity: My wife didn't take my last name because she's not my property. Fu*k you.


is it lib in here
 
2013-12-31 01:17:14 PM
Love this bit FTA: Turner's wife, @Hilksom on Twitter, responded to the airline this way: "@AirCanada @theturner Sooooo... Turner can transfer the voucher to our NEIGHBOUR Kelly who has the same last name, but not his WIFE. Gotcha."
 
2013-12-31 01:29:14 PM
ITT biatch whipped guys who are too pussy to claim their women as their property
 
2013-12-31 01:31:12 PM
My wife didn't take my last name because she was too lazy to do the paperwork.
 
2013-12-31 01:34:08 PM
Mine didn't take mine, because as a Phd microbiologist, its easier for future employers to look up her previously published papers under her old name, rather then paying to have all of them changed to the new one.

Kids will take my name though, when they are born.
 
2013-12-31 01:37:00 PM

Antimatter: Mine didn't take mine, because as a Phd microbiologist, its easier for future employers to look up her previously published papers under her old name, rather then paying to have all of them changed to the new one.


www4.images.coolspotters.com
 
2013-12-31 01:40:53 PM

Flab: My wife didn't take my last name because that hasn't been allowed in Quebec since the late seventies.


What, wait really?  Really.  Wow, neat.  I never knew that about Quebec but it explains so much about various couples I work with.  I thought they were just all strong pro-feminism.

Hey its better then hypenated double-last-names-that-will-only-get-worse-a-few-generations-down-the- line-son.
 
2013-12-31 01:45:01 PM

BumpInTheNight: Flab: My wife didn't take my last name because that hasn't been allowed in Quebec since the late seventies.

What, wait really?  Really.  Wow, neat.  I never knew that about Quebec but it explains so much about various couples I work with.  I thought they were just all strong pro-feminism.

Hey its better then hypenated double-last-names-that-will-only-get-worse-a-few-generations-down-the- line-son.


I kind of like the Spanish way of doing it. Everyone inherits a last name from their mother and their father. If you're male, you pass on your father's last name to your children. If you're female, you pass on your mother's last name to your children.
 
2013-12-31 01:47:19 PM

Serious Black: BumpInTheNight: Flab: My wife didn't take my last name because that hasn't been allowed in Quebec since the late seventies.

What, wait really?  Really.  Wow, neat.  I never knew that about Quebec but it explains so much about various couples I work with.  I thought they were just all strong pro-feminism.

Hey its better then hypenated double-last-names-that-will-only-get-worse-a-few-generations-down-the- line-son.

I kind of like the Spanish way of doing it. Everyone inherits a last name from their mother and their father. If you're male, you pass on your father's last name to your children. If you're female, you pass on your mother's last name to your children.


That's a cool system too and ensures things get mixed up at each generation evenly, unless I suppose you're part of the population with a tendency to appear on Maury Povish.
 
2013-12-31 01:52:39 PM

BumpInTheNight: Flab: My wife didn't take my last name because that hasn't been allowed in Quebec since the late seventies.

What, wait really?  Really.  Wow, neat.  I never knew that about Quebec but it explains so much about various couples I work with.  I thought they were just all strong pro-feminism.

Hey its better then hypenated double-last-names-that-will-only-get-worse-a-few-generations-down-the- line-son.


How is a restriction on what names people can take neat? My wife took my last name because she doesn't like her father very much - and in Quebec that would be banned? That's idiotic.

/I don't give a shiat what her last name is
 
2013-12-31 01:55:46 PM
a wife taking a husband's last name is about forming a new family.

too many couples these days never actually come together as a family, separate names, separate bank accounts, mom has a different name than her kids, ect.

It is farking bullshiat.

If you are going to do all that shiat, why get married at all?  You are not a husband and wife, you are a couple of roommates that possibly occasionally sex each other.

Ladies, getting married and taking your husband's last name does not mark you as his property.  It simply makes you a family.
 
2013-12-31 02:02:09 PM

frepnog: a wife taking a husband's last name is about forming a new family.

too many couples these days never actually come together as a family, separate names, separate bank accounts, mom has a different name than her kids, ect.

It is farking bullshiat.

If you are going to do all that shiat, why get married at all?  You are not a husband and wife, you are a couple of roommates that possibly occasionally sex each other.

Ladies, getting married and taking your husband's last name does not mark you as his property.  It simply makes you a family.


I see where you're coming from, with a couple of caveats:
- there's no reason it has to be the husband's last name
- there's good reasons for a person not to want to change their name, like the published biochemist mentioned upthread
- marriage is about attitudes and expectations, not about words on paper - getting married doesn't change who you are, nor does it change how you interact.
 
2013-12-31 02:03:14 PM

YixilTesiphon: How is a restriction on what names people can take neat? My wife took my last name because she doesn't like her father very much - and in Quebec that would be banned? That's idiotic.

/I don't give a shiat what her last name is


I've just never seen such a thing codified in law before that's all, I imagine if you dig back to its origins you'll find a bunch of Quebec ministers getting uppity about how all the best french women were marrying english dudes and realized in a few generations the only people sporting last names like Leveque or Dion would be gutter-crawling cretins.  I barely put any thought at all into that btw, which is why I think its so accurately predicts that province's reasoning for making any law that's different then the norm.  Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Quebec made it illegal to turn right on a red light...oh wait.
 
2013-12-31 02:09:07 PM

frepnog: a wife taking a husband's last name is about forming a new family.

too many couples these days never actually come together as a family, separate names, separate bank accounts, mom has a different name than her kids, ect.

It is farking bullshiat.

If you are going to do all that shiat, why get married at all?  You are not a husband and wife, you are a couple of roommates that possibly occasionally sex each other.

Ladies, getting married and taking your husband's last name does not mark you as his property.  It simply makes you a family.


It's cool that YOU think that way (assuming your current or future wife does as well), but others do not.  My wife took my last name because it's easier to spell.  Twenty years of not having to phonetically spell, then pronounce, then read back, then explain the pronunciation, origin, and spelling of your last name can be a blessing completely unrelated to patriarchal oppression.

But I'm pretty sure we'd be just as much a family if she kept her silly Eastern European last name.
 
2013-12-31 02:09:43 PM

falcon176: Pope Larry II: My wife didn't take my last name because she didn't want to.

Air Canada is a horrible ariline, I'd rather swim to the UK than fly with them.

Calmamity: My wife didn't take my last name because she's not my property. Fu*k you.

is it lib in here


What's lib got to do, got to do with it?
 
2013-12-31 02:10:26 PM

BumpInTheNight: YixilTesiphon: How is a restriction on what names people can take neat? My wife took my last name because she doesn't like her father very much - and in Quebec that would be banned? That's idiotic.

/I don't give a shiat what her last name is

I've just never seen such a thing codified in law before that's all, I imagine if you dig back to its origins you'll find a bunch of Quebec ministers getting uppity about how all the best french women were marrying english dudes and realized in a few generations the only people sporting last names like Leveque or Dion would be gutter-crawling cretins.  I barely put any thought at all into that btw, which is why I think its so accurately predicts that province's reasoning for making any law that's different then the norm.  Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Quebec made it illegal to turn right on a red light...oh wait.


I get jumpy when people seem to be suggesting that enacting laws codifying Stop Liking What I Don't Like is a good idea. You seem to have more meant that it's interesting, which I agree with. Sorry if I was a little aggressive there.
 
2013-12-31 02:15:44 PM

YixilTesiphon: BumpInTheNight: YixilTesiphon: How is a restriction on what names people can take neat? My wife took my last name because she doesn't like her father very much - and in Quebec that would be banned? That's idiotic.

/I don't give a shiat what her last name is

I've just never seen such a thing codified in law before that's all, I imagine if you dig back to its origins you'll find a bunch of Quebec ministers getting uppity about how all the best french women were marrying english dudes and realized in a few generations the only people sporting last names like Leveque or Dion would be gutter-crawling cretins.  I barely put any thought at all into that btw, which is why I think its so accurately predicts that province's reasoning for making any law that's different then the norm.  Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Quebec made it illegal to turn right on a red light...oh wait.

I get jumpy when people seem to be suggesting that enacting laws codifying Stop Liking What I Don't Like is a good idea. You seem to have more meant that it's interesting, which I agree with. Sorry if I was a little aggressive there.


Absolutely that's all I meant by the neat business, Quebec just never ceases to amaze when it comes to staunchly going against the grain just for the sake of being difficult and/or some misguided attempt to preserve their proud heritage.
 
2013-12-31 02:16:07 PM

Calmamity: My wife didn't take my last name because i'm not a man she's not my property. Fu*k you.


ftfy
 
2013-12-31 02:22:27 PM

frepnog: a wife taking a husband's last name is about forming a new family.

too many couples these days never actually come together as a family, separate names, separate bank accounts, mom has a different name than her kids, ect.

It is farking bullshiat.

If you are going to do all that shiat, why get married at all?  You are not a husband and wife, you are a couple of roommates that possibly occasionally sex each other.

Ladies, getting married and taking your husband's last name does not mark you as his property.  It simply makes you a family.


A. I am not having kids with my husband, nor did I take his last name. Does that make us not a family?
B. Take your wife's name, then, if you really believe that it's the same last name that makes you a family. You do the paperwork, deal with people trying to find you under your maiden name, and hope that your new name doesn't end up sounding ridiculous.

I find it silly that you think it's more work to keep your same last name, same bank accounts, etc. Of course, if men had to change their name, this "tradition" would've been dead 100 years ago.

I had an established life before I was married, and so did my husband. Not that I should care if you believe if we're a family, but the amount of unnecessary hassle you believe we should have done to become one is comical. I don't care if other women take their husband's names or not, but I am pretty sure the last name thing isn't what is destroying your vision of the ideal family.

/ at least I wear a wedding ring, die-hard traditionalists
// must really be difficult for gay couples that marry, eh? Who gets what name? Oh noes!
 
2013-12-31 02:23:48 PM
I have a friend who has a hard-to-pronounce Chinese last name who married a white guy with a last name that resembles a racial epithet.  They hyphenated their names and now it looks like something out of an Iain M. Banks novel.
 
2013-12-31 02:25:45 PM

BumpInTheNight: YixilTesiphon: How is a restriction on what names people can take neat? My wife took my last name because she doesn't like her father very much - and in Quebec that would be banned? That's idiotic.

/I don't give a shiat what her last name is

I've just never seen such a thing codified in law before that's all, I imagine if you dig back to its origins you'll find a bunch of Quebec ministers getting uppity about how all the best french women were marrying english dudes and realized in a few generations the only people sporting last names like Leveque or Dion would be gutter-crawling cretins.  I barely put any thought at all into that btw, which is why I think its so accurately predicts that province's reasoning for making any law that's different then the norm.  Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Quebec made it illegal to turn right on a red light...oh wait.


I lived in Ottawa for 30-something years and every bloody time I crossed the border I'd have to stop and think about the red on right law. First you couldn't, then you could but not in Montréal, then you couldn't again, but Gatineau allowed it...
 
2013-12-31 02:30:23 PM

frepnog: a wife taking a husband's last name is about forming a new family.

too many couples these days never actually come together as a family, separate names, separate bank accounts, mom has a different name than her kids, ect.

It is farking bullshiat.

If you are going to do all that shiat, why get married at all?  You are not a husband and wife, you are a couple of roommates that possibly occasionally sex each other.

Ladies, getting married and taking your husband's last name does not mark you as his property.  It simply makes you a family.


So why not let men take the woman's family name? Or have the husband and wife create their own last name?
 
2013-12-31 02:30:23 PM

Disaster Transport: A. I am not having kids with my husband, nor did I take his last name. Does that make us not a family?


How exactly does it MAKE you a family?

Disaster Transport: B. Take your wife's name, then, if you really believe that it's the same last name that makes you a family.


I don't care who takes whose name.  Having the same name makes you a cohesive unit, saves time when dealing with medical issues and other legal affairs.

Disaster Transport: I had an established life before I was married, and so did my husband.


You were probably farking some other dick as well.  You keep that up?  After all, you had a life before your husband.  See, once you marry, the life you had is no more - you are a new entity.  There is nothing wrong with hanging on to the trapping of an old life, professional names and what not, but come on.

Disaster Transport: I don't care if other women take their husband's names or not, but I am pretty sure the last name thing isn't what is destroying your vision of the ideal family.


I didn't say the name thing was destroying families, but it is another symptom of the "ME ME ME" situation many young people are in.

I repeat - why get married at all if you don't like the institution?
 
2013-12-31 02:34:48 PM

Serious Black: Or have the husband and wife create their own last name?


I could get behind this, in all honesty.

Serious Black: So why not let men take the woman's family name?


some men do.  nothing wrong with it.  take me for instance - my wife took my last name, but my last name is an adopted one with no real meaning to me beyond the fact that I care about the person that the name came from.  I could have taken her name, and it would have been fine - except that I have three kids from a previous marriage and I wouldn't want to change because their last name is mine.
 
2013-12-31 02:36:31 PM
Disaster Transport:
// must really be difficult for gay couples that marry, eh? Who gets what name? Oh noes!

For men, I would assume that the catcher takes the pitcher's last name and for women, the fem takes the butch's last name.

/I dunno, I'll have to ask my gay BIL, though he's unmarried
 
2013-12-31 02:45:14 PM

frepnog: Serious Black: Or have the husband and wife create their own last name?

I could get behind this, in all honesty.

Serious Black: So why not let men take the woman's family name?

some men do.  nothing wrong with it.  take me for instance - my wife took my last name, but my last name is an adopted one with no real meaning to me beyond the fact that I care about the person that the name came from.  I could have taken her name, and it would have been fine - except that I have three kids from a previous marriage and I wouldn't want to change because their last name is mine.


Then you should have said this instead of saying the woman should take the man's last name.

The history of women taking the man's last name when they get married is based on the tradition of marriage being where a man buys a woman from her parents for a dowry and makes her his property. This lasted a pretty long time; it wasn't until the mid-1800's when women were actually allowed to even work for their own salary in America, let alone own property!

You may not have intended to make your comments come off as retrograde, but they can have that appearance if you're not precise.
 
2013-12-31 02:46:15 PM
Thankfully we get a two for one in the hate column here

pics.classicauctions.net


God Is My Co-Pirate: Pope Larry II: My wife didn't take my last name because she didn't want to.

Air Canada is a horrible ariline, I'd rather swim to the UK than fly with them.

Hating Air Canada: our second national pasttime.

Seriously, fark them, and fark them for making me support Quebec in a Quebec vs. Air Canada fight.

 
2013-12-31 02:47:26 PM
Serious Black:

The history of women taking the man's last name when they get married is based on the tradition of marriage being where a man buys a woman from her parents for a dowry and makes her his property. This lasted a pretty long time; it wasn't until the mid-1800's when women were actually allowed to even work for their own salary in America, let alone own property!

Umm, it's the other way around....the bride's parents pay the groom a dowry.
 
2013-12-31 02:49:17 PM

Serious Black: BumpInTheNight: Flab: My wife didn't take my last name because that hasn't been allowed in Quebec since the late seventies.

What, wait really?  Really.  Wow, neat.  I never knew that about Quebec but it explains so much about various couples I work with.  I thought they were just all strong pro-feminism.

Hey its better then hypenated double-last-names-that-will-only-get-worse-a-few-generations-down-the- line-son.

I kind of like the Spanish way of doing it. Everyone inherits a last name from their mother and their father. If you're male, you pass on your father's last name to your children. If you're female, you pass on your mother's last name to your children.


Excellentissimo Domino Jeronimo Alejandro Peñasco de Halcones Quinto, Marchioni de Azuaga et de Hornachos, Comiti de Llerena, Barcarrota, et de Jerez de los Caballeros, Vicecomiti de Llera, Entrín Alto y Bajo, et de Cabeza del Buey, Baroni de Barrax, Baza, Nerva, Jadraque, Brazatortas, Gargantiel, et de Val de las Muertas, Domino Domus de Atalaya, Ordinis Equestris Calatravae Beneficiario de la Fresneda  thinks that you can go fark yourself.
 
2013-12-31 02:50:24 PM

frepnog: too many couples these days...herp derp derp


Too many for what?
 
2013-12-31 02:51:33 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Serious Black:

The history of women taking the man's last name when they get married is based on the tradition of marriage being where a man buys a woman from her parents for a dowry and makes her his property. This lasted a pretty long time; it wasn't until the mid-1800's when women were actually allowed to even work for their own salary in America, let alone own property!

Umm, it's the other way around....the bride's parents pay the groom a dowry.


Oops. Shows you how big a dowry was involved in my marriage.
 
2013-12-31 02:55:59 PM

Serious Black: frepnog: Serious Black: Or have the husband and wife create their own last name?

I could get behind this, in all honesty.

Serious Black: So why not let men take the woman's family name?

some men do.  nothing wrong with it.  take me for instance - my wife took my last name, but my last name is an adopted one with no real meaning to me beyond the fact that I care about the person that the name came from.  I could have taken her name, and it would have been fine - except that I have three kids from a previous marriage and I wouldn't want to change because their last name is mine.

Then you should have said this instead of saying the woman should take the man's last name.

The history of women taking the man's last name when they get married is based on the tradition of marriage being where a man buys a woman from her parents for a dowry and makes her his property. This lasted a pretty long time; it wasn't until the mid-1800's when women were actually allowed to even work for their own salary in America, let alone own property!

You may not have intended to make your comments come off as retrograde, but they can have that appearance if you're not precise.


yar.  anywho, ya, I didn't really mean that wimminz should take their husband's name no matter what - just that a family with a single name is a more cohesive unit.
 
2013-12-31 02:56:22 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Serious Black:

The history of women taking the man's last name when they get married is based on the tradition of marriage being where a man buys a woman from her parents for a dowry and makes her his property. This lasted a pretty long time; it wasn't until the mid-1800's when women were actually allowed to even work for their own salary in America, let alone own property!

Umm, it's the other way around....the bride's parents pay the groom a dowry.


[smrt]
 
2013-12-31 02:57:16 PM

Serious Black: Oops. Shows you how big a dowry was involved in my marriage.


Some cultures had dowries (bride's family pays groom) and some had bride prices (groom's family pays bride's family).  But they all pretty much end with the groom owning the bride.  In one of the places I lived (bride price culture) women started out by having their father's first name as their last name, and when they got married their last name changed to their husband's first name.
 
2013-12-31 03:02:43 PM

frepnog: Disaster Transport: A. I am not having kids with my husband, nor did I take his last name. Does that make us not a family?

How exactly does it MAKE you a family?

Disaster Transport: B. Take your wife's name, then, if you really believe that it's the same last name that makes you a family.

I don't care who takes whose name.  Having the same name makes you a cohesive unit, saves time when dealing with medical issues and other legal affairs.

Disaster Transport: I had an established life before I was married, and so did my husband.

You were probably farking some other dick as well.  You keep that up?  After all, you had a life before your husband.  See, once you marry, the life you had is no more - you are a new entity.  There is nothing wrong with hanging on to the trapping of an old life, professional names and what not, but come on.

Disaster Transport: I don't care if other women take their husband's names or not, but I am pretty sure the last name thing isn't what is destroying your vision of the ideal family.

I didn't say the name thing was destroying families, but it is another symptom of the "ME ME ME" situation many young people are in.

I repeat - why get married at all if you don't like the institution?


THIS.
 
2013-12-31 03:07:47 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Pope Larry II: My wife didn't take my last name because she didn't want to.

Air Canada is a horrible ariline, I'd rather swim to the UK than fly with them.

Hating Air Canada: our second national pasttime.

Seriously, fark them, and fark them for making me support Quebec in a Quebec vs. Air Canada fight.


O.O damn they really must suck for one to favor Quebec over them.
 
2013-12-31 03:07:51 PM
Air Canada is upset that this thread has devolved any from their award winning "Fark you captive customers" and onto issues about last names.  At Air Canada, we aren't happy until you aren't happy.  Our crappy attitude and complete lack of interest in providing service to our customers is a legacy of being owned by the mostly Liberal federal governments of Canada.  We provide jobs for Quebecers... Who don't give a rat's posterior about doing anything for you farking English.  Send us your money and STFU.

Merci.
 
2013-12-31 03:07:56 PM

frepnog: a wife taking a husband's last name is about forming a new family.

too many couples these days never actually come together as a family, separate names, separate bank accounts, mom has a different name than her kids, ect.

It is farking bullshiat.

If you are going to do all that shiat, why get married at all?  You are not a husband and wife, you are a couple of roommates that possibly occasionally sex each other.

Ladies, getting married and taking your husband's last name does not mark you as his property.  It simply makes you a family.


10/10
 
2013-12-31 03:10:17 PM

Hollie Maea: frepnog: too many couples these days...herp derp derp

Too many for what?


you seen a divorce rate lately?

couples don't last.  never coming together AS a couple DOES NOT HELP.
 
2013-12-31 03:12:05 PM

danknerd: frepnog: a wife taking a husband's last name is about forming a new family.

too many couples these days never actually come together as a family, separate names, separate bank accounts, mom has a different name than her kids, ect.

It is farking bullshiat.

If you are going to do all that shiat, why get married at all?  You are not a husband and wife, you are a couple of roommates that possibly occasionally sex each other.

Ladies, getting married and taking your husband's last name does not mark you as his property.  It simply makes you a family.

10/10


not a troll and you will have a hard time proving me wrong.
 
2013-12-31 03:12:50 PM
My wife with a different last name and I are celebrating our anniversary today so I'm getting a kick out of these replies...

/4 years
//Just as happy now as we were then
///Somehow the name thing hasn't been an issue
 
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