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(Fox News)   NYC mayor-elect Bill de Blasio, proving he's got his finger on the pulse of the city, announces that one of his first initiatives will be to ban horse-drawn carriages. Up next: outlawing buggy whips, regulating monocles, new standards for inkwells   (foxnews.com) divider line 70
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2013-12-31 11:27:39 AM
Quite bully, that one! By Jove!
 
2013-12-31 11:28:07 AM
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Unamused.
 
2013-12-31 11:29:19 AM
You can have my regulating monocle when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
 
2013-12-31 11:30:12 AM
I'm so keen-o
For Beefareeeno
What a delicious cuisine-o
Fit for a king and a queen-o
 
2013-12-31 11:30:17 AM
Will be interesting to see how his term plays out.
 
2013-12-31 11:30:19 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]

Unamused.


Ehh, the horse-drawn carriage experience has gone downhill ever since Bloomberg banned the family-sized cans of Beefarino.

/such a delicious cuisine-o
//fit for a king or queen-o
 
2013-12-31 11:30:47 AM
Why codify it into law? It should be more like a rule of thumb.
 
2013-12-31 11:31:47 AM
Wow .. as if Herr Bloomberg's nanny state initiatives weren't bad enough, de Blasio just made my shiat list quick.

Want to control something unruly, START WITH YOUR SON'S HAIR!

Oh yeah .. I went there.  But I did not draw first blood
 
2013-12-31 11:31:57 AM
Good.
 
2013-12-31 11:34:35 AM
Also we need to regulate the age where children can sweep chimneys. Only last week a 13 year old got stuck in my flue, so we need a law saying that no-one over the age of 8 can do the job.
 
2013-12-31 11:34:43 AM
awesomegifs.com
 
2013-12-31 11:35:43 AM
Lunching at The Plaza just won't be the same without the aroma of horseshiat wafting in from Central Park South...
 
2013-12-31 11:35:47 AM
And them goldurn new fangled otty-mobeels, what's he gonna do about them?

americanfords.com
 
2013-12-31 11:36:44 AM
There are still a bunch of those in downtown Denver around the holidays and stock show.  Huge pain in the ass.  Fark em.  And those stupid ass bike cabs too.  Except for that one girl in ridiculously tight spandex and awesome muscular ass.  She can stay.

Like watching two mini television sets.
 
2013-12-31 11:38:37 AM
Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,
 
2013-12-31 11:38:53 AM
They can't get the horses unionized, so they have to go.
 
2013-12-31 11:40:10 AM
My goodness, New York just can't seem to elect itself a good mayor, can it?

They should have elected that lesbian chick. Whatever happened to her, anyway?
 
2013-12-31 11:40:49 AM
"They constantly breathe exhaust while dodging dangerous traffic," says the website of one anti-carriage group, New Yorkers for Clean, Livable, and Safe Streets (NYCLASS), "confined to the shafts of their carriage and their tiny stable stalls, with no access to green pastures."

Will they be paying to send the horses currently plying the streets of NY to green pastures ? I think what they have actually done is condemn them to the butcher shop or the glue factory. Very humane on their part.
 
2013-12-31 11:41:39 AM

willfullyobscure: Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,


Actually, supposedly do-gooders have arranged for the horses to have a dignified retirement somewhere.  Glad I got a carriage ride in last year, though.
 
2013-12-31 11:43:42 AM

willfullyobscure: Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,


Hah!  You think the horses are safe:

i.dailymail.co.uk

Look, I appreciate the romanticism of a horse drawn carriage, but the streets of Manhattan are not an appropriate place for a draft horse.
 
2013-12-31 11:44:01 AM

capt.hollister: "They constantly breathe exhaust while dodging dangerous traffic," says the website of one anti-carriage group, New Yorkers for Clean, Livable, and Safe Streets (NYCLASS), "confined to the shafts of their carriage and their tiny stable stalls, with no access to green pastures."

Will they be paying to send the horses currently plying the streets of NY to green pastures ? I think what they have actually done is condemn them to the butcher shop or the glue factory. Very humane on their part.


Those horses need to pull themselves up by their boot straps and find new jobs as food or glue.
 
2013-12-31 11:44:44 AM

keypusher: willfullyobscure: Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,

Actually, supposedly do-gooders have arranged for the horses to have a dignified retirement somewhere.  Glad I got a carriage ride in last year, though.


I'm betting the "dignified retirement" will be as part of a can of Alpo
 
DB
2013-12-31 11:47:35 AM
Good. Cruelty to animals aside, Central Park and surrounding areas smell like a giant toilet. The carriages all have shiat smeared poop bags hanging from them that the horses never seem to hit properly. How do people see those things as romantic or quaint? They're disgusting.
 
2013-12-31 11:47:49 AM
I wonder how much of aproblem they actually cause the city.

Either way this makes the new mayor look like almost as much of a jackass as the last one right now. If there is real substance to this I hope he gets it out there.
 
2013-12-31 11:50:52 AM

ArgusRun: willfullyobscure: Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,

Hah!  You think the horses are safe:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x340]

Look, I appreciate the romanticism of a horse drawn carriage, but the streets of Manhattan are not an appropriate place for a draft horse.


Thats a good point.  There are entire sections of the country that are beautiful where a nice leisurely carriage ride would be an awesome thing to do.  The uber busy streets of a major city is not one of those places.  For fun experiment you can do on your own go to the busiest street in your town and drive 10 miles an hour in the middle lane for a few miles with your blinkers on and see what effect it has on the traffic.
 
2013-12-31 11:51:08 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what horses are SUPPOSED to do? Why is it cruel having them do what they've been doing for hundreds of years? I also hear they are treated VERY well.
 
2013-12-31 11:52:07 AM

DB: Good. Cruelty to animals aside, Central Park and surrounding areas smell like a giant toilet. The carriages all have shiat smeared poop bags hanging from them that the horses never seem to hit properly. How do people see those things as romantic or quaint? They're disgusting.


Truthfully, I enjoy the smell of horses.  It's an acquired taste associated with summer camp, but far less offensive to me than say, a hot, urine-scented subway entrance.

I'm not a radial animal rights activist.  Draft horses are built for this type of work.  I think there could be a way to do it humanely, but we're taking about stables and pasture in the park, strictly observed temperature boundaries and regular inspections.  Also limit them to inside the park on specially designated paths, no public thoroughfares shared with cars and trucks.
 
2013-12-31 11:58:41 AM

ArgusRun: willfullyobscure: Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,

Hah!  You think the horses are safe:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x340]

Look, I appreciate the romanticism of a horse drawn carriage, but the streets of Manhattan are not an appropriate place for a draft horse.


Then you better ban bicycles too because I can find fifty pictures of cyclists maimed or killed in NYC by traffic for every one of a horse. These horses are well treated, valuable, and safer than almost any other scenario.

assets.nydailynews.com

keypusher: 
Actually, supposedly do-gooders have arranged for the horses to have a dignified retirement somewhere.  Glad I got a carriage ride in last year, though.

.There is literally not enough available pasturage for charitable horse care. Not on the east coast, not out west. Horses are expensive as hell and thousands are put down every year after their owners go broke and can't get pet horses rehomed. These horses are bred and suited for one purpose only- pulling a dray. they can't be raced, or ridden or used for therapy or even for breedstock.
 
2013-12-31 12:05:29 PM

willfullyobscure: ArgusRun: willfullyobscure: Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,

Hah!  You think the horses are safe:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x340]

Look, I appreciate the romanticism of a horse drawn carriage, but the streets of Manhattan are not an appropriate place for a draft horse.

Then you better ban bicycles too because I can find fifty pictures of cyclists maimed or killed in NYC by traffic for every one of a horse. These horses are well treated, valuable, and safer than almost any other scenario.



Don't be obtuse.  People can make a conscious an informed decision to take on the risk associated with bicycling.  Horses don't get to make a decision.

Your logic would dictate that no matter how cruel an industry it was, it should never be eliminated because those horses would rather be alive and mistreated, than dead.  Then grandfather in the existing horses, but when they die or have to retire, no new horse for you.  Problem solved.
 
2013-12-31 12:05:31 PM

willfullyobscure: ArgusRun: willfullyobscure: Thereby sending some hundreds of healthy adult horses out of safe, well treated and regulated employment and off to the glue factory and putting three times that number of people out of a job providing a popular, world-famous tourist attraction that's existed for 150 years as such.  Great work, Bill-o. I hope the screams of terrified horses getting turned into meat haunt your dreams,

Hah!  You think the horses are safe:

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 468x340]

Look, I appreciate the romanticism of a horse drawn carriage, but the streets of Manhattan are not an appropriate place for a draft horse.

Then you better ban bicycles too because I can find fifty pictures of cyclists maimed or killed in NYC by traffic for every one of a horse. These horses are well treated, valuable, and safer than almost any other scenario.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x422]

keypusher: 
Actually, supposedly do-gooders have arranged for the horses to have a dignified retirement somewhere.  Glad I got a carriage ride in last year, though.

.There is literally not enough available pasturage for charitable horse care. Not on the east coast, not out west. Horses are expensive as hell and thousands are put down every year after their owners go broke and can't get pet horses rehomed. These horses are bred and suited for one purpose only- pulling a dray. they can't be raced, or ridden or used for therapy or even for breedstock.


But then how do they breed new draft horses?
 
2013-12-31 12:05:58 PM
www.foodrepublic.com

Kenny: I love horses.

Cop: I love horses.

Kenny: I love Butterstuff.

Cop: Buttercup!

Kenny: Butternuts!

Cop: BUTTERCUP!

Kenny: Cup!
 
2013-12-31 12:06:51 PM
If the horses are banned, they'll be sent to the glue factory - a truly humane solution to a non-problem. Problem solved!
 
2013-12-31 12:06:51 PM
As soon as you outlaw NYPD from having horses as well.
 
2013-12-31 12:13:06 PM

willfullyobscure: Then you better ban bicycles too because I can find fifty pictures of cyclists maimed or killed in NYC by traffic for every one of a horse.


Christ, that's a lot more horse injuries than I thought.  One horse for every 50 bike accidents in NYC?

In any case, we don't make people ride bikes in manhattan, and keep them in a stable when they're not riding bikes.
 
2013-12-31 12:14:23 PM
When is NYC going to ban stupid mayors?
 
2013-12-31 12:25:54 PM
Chief Wiggum: All right, show's over, folks. I'm afraid this horse is going to the dog food factory.

Homer: Good luck getting a horse to eat dog food.
 
2013-12-31 12:42:11 PM

Cold_Sassy: When is NYC going to ban stupid mayors?


Who would they find to run for office then?
 
2013-12-31 12:42:27 PM
He'll pry my spats off my cold, dead ankles!
 
2013-12-31 12:43:39 PM

Xcott: .....keep them in a stable when they're not riding bikes.


Can the Critical Mass ones at least be kept in a stable? Permanently?
 
2013-12-31 12:48:34 PM

Cold_Sassy: When is NYC going to ban stupid mayors?


That'll happen as soon as the NYC electorate diminishes in quantity of douchebags... so, never.
 
2013-12-31 12:55:40 PM

Babbs: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that what horses are SUPPOSED to do? Why is it cruel having them do what they've been doing for hundreds of years? I also hear they are treated VERY well.


Oh so hundreds of years ago they rode around Manhattan among cabs, trucks and tourists that are constantly honking and don't know how to drive?

If you think this isa non-issue, then you've never been to Central park. As others have said, Manhattan is no place for horses.
 
2013-12-31 12:57:39 PM

rocinante721: Wow .. as if Herr Bloomberg's nanny state initiatives weren't bad enough, de Blasio just made my shiat list quick.

Want to control something unruly, START WITH YOUR SON'S HAIR!

Oh yeah .. I went there.  But I did not draw first blood


So you own a horse drawn carriage?
 
2013-12-31 12:58:22 PM

Teve Torbes: You can have my regulating monocle when you pry it from my cold dead hands

eye socket.

FTFM
 
2013-12-31 12:58:35 PM
I'm guessing subby doesn't live here in NYC or he would know that this has been an issue.

Note to subby: not knowing something is never cute or amusing.
 
2013-12-31 12:59:40 PM

doczoidberg: My goodness, New York just can't seem to elect itself a good mayor, can it?

They should have elected that lesbian chick. Whatever happened to her, anyway?


You mean the one that went along with all of Bloomberg's ideas?  You actually expected her to be different from Bloomberg?
 
2013-12-31 01:04:11 PM
Being from the midwest, I have no idea about de-Blasio . Is he a true card carrying believer or a did he pop up from nowhere to bring every conservative strawman about libs to life?

/smh
 
2013-12-31 01:08:01 PM
I wish the new mayor luck, however a part of me feels like he has bitten off more than he can chew.  Pretty soon he is going to have to take a hard line on education and other issues that are going to make his ultra liberal supporters squirm.

B-burg may not have been everyone's favorite, but at least he did what he believed was right no matter what people thought.  I'm afraid Bill is doing what his supporters feel is right but sooner or later he is going to hit that brick wall of reality and then things will get interesting.  I cal already see headlines screaming...

De-lousyO

Mind you, I'm for the guy, I just have this feeling that city government/politics is going to eat him up.
 
2013-12-31 01:47:41 PM
This isn't some random issue he pulled out of his ass... it was a relatively big issue on the campaign, and part of what sunk Quinn's chances.  Almost all of the Democratic candidates for mayor were willing to either end the carriage horses immediately, or phase them out.  Lhota, the Republican candidate, was also willing to phase them out.  Quinn wasn't.

The horses themselves don't need to be retired.  There are plenty of places that still have horse-drawn carriages that are far less congested (and far more appropriate) than the middle of Manhattan.
 
2013-12-31 01:48:00 PM
I suspect 'nice pasture' really means 'slaughterhouse'. Especially if HSUS is involved.

Draft horses have pulled things in Manhattan since day 1. They were there when it was Dutch colonists, during the Civil War draft riots, while the place was being overrun by trucks and cars driven by people with even less respect for traffic laws than now, through 9/11 and Occupy and everything else.  And now it's not safe for them? Bullshiate.
 
2013-12-31 01:51:21 PM
Eh, a loss for horse drawn carriages is probably a win for duck tours.  I don't know enough about horses to know if they are overworked.  The problem with animal rights movements is that a lot of the information comes from the far far left like PETA.  I'm all for humane treatment of animals, but I don't know what an appropriate work day is for a horse.

As for the exhaust problems, wouldn't it make more sense to address air quality directly?  Traffic concerns can be addressed purely by looking at the roads as economic vehicles.  Are the horses causing more economic hardship than the benefit of the jobs they are creating.

If the animals are being overworked, does that mean you couldn't pass a regulation that prevented that?  Maybe it means the rides are more expensive, maybe you give out fewer licences to adjust demand.
 
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