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2013-12-31 11:50:26 AM  
7 votes:
If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.
2013-12-31 12:06:35 PM  
4 votes:

hardinparamedic: You keep thinking that. Street chemists will try anything.


I think there's some truth to the point that making relatively safe drugs hard to get increases risky behavior.  After the Pickard was busted, and the availability of LSD dropped substantially, a lot of my trippy-dippy friends ended up experimenting with drugs that the otherwise would have never tried - which were all far more dangerous than LSD.  Sometimes having relatively safe options available will keep people from getting "desperate" and trying the really weird stuff.
2013-12-31 11:53:49 AM  
3 votes:

thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.


Pretty much this. The prohibitionists have it completely backwards. Pot isn't a "gateway drug"; the criminalization of pot creates demand for other drugs, and since it's all criminalized, you end up getting it through the same black market channels.
2013-12-31 12:44:43 PM  
2 votes:
After tomorrow, if I want to, I can just walk down to my local weed dispensary and buy an ounce, totally legal. Happy new year!
2013-12-31 12:07:19 PM  
2 votes:

sandi_fish: So you would rather have your son die than smoke a harmless plant?  Wow.


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Weed is from da ERF!  God put this here for me...and you!
2013-12-31 12:07:11 PM  
2 votes:

nekom: Hey kids!  Want to get high?  Well, if you must, STICK TO GRASS!  This fake stuff is bad news all around.

1.  Get random dried herbs
2.  Spray with ?????? made in China
3.  fail


I had never heard of anyone overdosing on marijuana, nature is best.
2013-12-31 12:04:54 PM  
2 votes:

TEA-PARTY-PATRIOT: Cocaine, as it turns out, is actually amazingly benign when not heavily abused.


A vast improvement over Ritalin and Adderall, but OMG! Drugs!!!
2013-12-31 11:59:17 AM  
2 votes:

generallyso: But it also can cause seizures, high blood pressure and, in cases like Tucker's, death.


So calling it "synthetic marijuana" is bullshiat.


Kinda gives it away that it is a SHENANIGANS dealeo, eh?
Make a substance illegal and then allow selling a dangerous drug as "legal" with the bullzhit stolen name.
Sounds like a business plan for something or other.

And you want to call this crap The LAW?
seriously?
2013-12-31 11:59:16 AM  
2 votes:
And this stuff only even exists because a plant that nobody has ever died from an overdose of in the history of mankind, and has been shown to have many therapeutic qualities, is illegal because reasons.
2013-12-31 11:58:37 AM  
2 votes:

generallyso: But it also can cause seizures, high blood pressure and, in cases like Tucker's, death.


So calling it "synthetic marijuana" is bullshiat.


Of course it's bullshiat. The only synthetic marijuana is MarinolTM and that's controlled by Big Pharma.

But it's an easy way to scare parents and trick dumb stoners into thinking it's a suitable substitute.
GBB
2013-12-31 11:57:28 AM  
2 votes:
If you can't persuade your kid from doing something he knows is dangerous, then you've already failed as a parent.  Cut your loses, take out a life insurance policy on him, and let him go.
2013-12-31 11:56:57 AM  
2 votes:
You'd figure he'd just smoke real weed. this kid needs better friends.
2013-12-31 11:56:32 AM  
2 votes:
So you would rather have your son die than smoke a harmless plant?  Wow.
2013-12-31 11:55:27 AM  
2 votes:

UNC_Samurai: thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.

Pretty much this. The prohibitionists have it completely backwards. Pot isn't a "gateway drug"; the criminalization of pot creates demand for other drugs, and since it's all criminalized, you end up getting it through the same black market channels.


Just as God umm, the Drug Czar intended.
2013-12-31 11:55:12 AM  
2 votes:
But it also can cause seizures, high blood pressure and, in cases like Tucker's, death.


So calling it "synthetic marijuana" is bullshiat.
2013-12-31 11:53:36 AM  
2 votes:

thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.


Nah, it would still be there. Hell, you've got a drug out there that literally ROTS YOUR SKIN OFF and yet people still try it.

Now would a lot less people try it if weed were legalized? Sure I can believe that. But there will always be outliers who want to try shiat simply because it's there and available.
2013-12-31 02:24:01 PM  
1 votes:
sure the piss would come out clear...but remember, most PO's are on the low end of the totem pole of law enforcement...making 40k a year, do you really think Sally gives a shiat what color the piss is? Prolly not...hell, I used to see my PO getting wasted at the bar I played pool at most nights of the week.
2013-12-31 02:18:47 PM  
1 votes:

CrazyCracka420: Woot_Gawd: midwestatheist: mike_d85: thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.

Yes it would.  People are idiots.  They will find a high to match their personalities/tastes and run with it.  Most people like pot because it can cause euphoria with either a slight upper sensation or slight downer sensation depending on the strain.  The problem is some people just plain want to feel something other than euphoria.

I was not a fan of cocaine.  Makes the back of your throat taste like crap.  It's like snotty acid reflux with a hint of kersine.

No it wouldn't..  The only people that smoke this stuff are the people that are on probation or parole.. Everyone that uses this stuff wishes they could smoke pot..  Its only a substitute

/was on probation
//smoked k2 until i could get the real shiat
///never touched the fake stuff again

You fail if you don't know how to pass a drug test...its easier than a kindergarten spelling quiz...Cystex...seven dollars...its your friend with a gallon of water.

/was on probation late 90's
//would smoke hours before seeing my PO
///never failed until my last test but the PO said "I don't care, you are off paper next week anyways"

How does it work?  You're diluting with the water, but the Cystex adds coloration back to your piss?  I'm pretty sure most piss tests look for other chemical markers to ensure it's not diluted urine, such as creatine levels.


Cystex does not discolour your urine as original AZO will, that stuff will make your piss orange...AZO cranberry is also a good friend...I generally would take about 2 pills every half hour starting 2 hours before my appointment while drinking plenty of water...sure, will make you feel a little weezy but I was 19 and stupid and wanted to get high.

/still get high
//haven't got pinched for an ounce of pot since
2013-12-31 02:12:47 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-12-31 01:58:51 PM  
1 votes:
I was given prescription cesamet, also known as Nabilone. Synthetic THC. Worst stuff I ever took. Caused burning nerves, sensory overload, crashing migraines.

Always ALWAYS go for the natural herb over a synthetic one. You never know what's in that crap.
2013-12-31 01:26:20 PM  
1 votes:
Some of these THC analogues like K2 are a lot more aggressive antagonists while having none of the sedating chemicals of natural marijuana. It is playing biochemical Russian roulette.
2013-12-31 12:43:58 PM  
1 votes:
PSA, don't ever use synthetic workarounds of drugs.  While marijuana may be relatively safe, stuff made to be "like Marijuana" are still significantly different on a chemical level.
2013-12-31 12:31:23 PM  
1 votes:

GBB: If you can't persuade your kid from doing something he knows is dangerous, then you've already failed as a parent.  Cut your loses, take out a life insurance policy on him, and let him go.


Not trying to say this guy is Father of the Year, but this comment is just dumb.  Kids are inherently stupid and will definitely try things that they know are dangerous. In my day it was huffing aerosol, playing the 'passout game', skateboarding, and yes, even some questionable drugs.  Calling the kid stupid is redundant... he's a kid.  Calling the father a failure is a little harsh.  He just lost his son, man.
2013-12-31 12:30:08 PM  
1 votes:
Latinwolf:
I had never heard of anyone overdosing on marijuana, nature is best.

Well, everything has an LD50, one could overdose on table salt or even water.  But to get there on cannabis would be for all intents and purposes impossible.  MAYBE if you ate an heroic amount of edibles made from highly concentrated hash, MAYBE that could be lethal.  Smoking it, no way in hell, you'd die of CO poisoning first.
2013-12-31 12:25:03 PM  
1 votes:
"I don't know what it's going to take," a tearful Brandt said Monday. "It's killing our family."

I'll tell you what it's going to take. It's going to take an executive order and or an act of Congress to legalize marijuana so junior there can get high safely without fear of reprisal from fascist arse holes like Eric Holder. But seeing that that's not what's going to happen anytime soon I'm reasonably certain that your kid will continue to be in and out of rehab for a long time.

/alcoholic and druggie
//took awhile
///clean for almost 3 years now
2013-12-31 12:25:00 PM  
1 votes:

midwestatheist: mike_d85: thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.

Yes it would.  People are idiots.  They will find a high to match their personalities/tastes and run with it.  Most people like pot because it can cause euphoria with either a slight upper sensation or slight downer sensation depending on the strain.  The problem is some people just plain want to feel something other than euphoria.

I was not a fan of cocaine.  Makes the back of your throat taste like crap.  It's like snotty acid reflux with a hint of kersine.

No it wouldn't..  The only people that smoke this stuff are the people that are on probation or parole.. Everyone that uses this stuff wishes they could smoke pot..  Its only a substitute

/was on probation
//smoked k2 until i could get the real shiat
///never touched the fake stuff again


Theres plenty of doctors that will prescribe whatever you want so you can have drugs and a note from your doctor for your P.O.  Just look up chiropractors or pain clinics in your area.  Then you can mess with synthetic heroin and ecstacy to go with your synthetic pot and still finish your probation.  But you can't have pot or booze.  They'll throw you're ass in jail for that.  Our drug laws are made by tards and fundies.
2013-12-31 12:23:36 PM  
1 votes:

Laobaojun: If K2 is the same as the crap the Russians call "krokodil", that stuff evil.  Yes, you get a high, until you start falling apart like a leper in time lapse photography.

I am not quite evil enough to say legalize and freely distribute that and meth.  The program could be called "Darwin".  If only I were a little more pragmatic.

/you raise your kid to use drugs, then he uses drugs, so you blame the drugs.  Great police work there, Lou.


Krokodil is desomorphine with a shiatload of impurities. It's not the desomorphine that does those grotesque wounds, it's the shiat they cook codeine with to convert it into the drug.

K2 is a synthetic cannabanoid that was developed to research the effects of cannabanoid receptors on schizophrenic disorders as part of a PH.d thesis, and sat in a file cabinet at a university for decades until some young, enterprising man found it and decided he could trip balls on it. Unfortunately for us, it also has qualities similar to Methamphetamine and LSD.
2013-12-31 12:23:30 PM  
1 votes:
I was hooked on that shiat for about 3 years.     Its been around longer than just the past couple.     

Never, ever, ever, would I touch that stuff again.  I had serious withdrawls when I was quitting, there were times when I couldn't sleep because I was too nervious or shaking too much.  I thought about checking myself into a rehab for it.  I was stealing from my family to buy it daily, etc.  Hate it, hate what it made me do.  When Pot becomes legal or medically available, i'll smoke up again.  Until then, i'll just stick to alcohol.
2013-12-31 12:20:34 PM  
1 votes:

snocone: ElwoodCuse: Gentlemen, I give you: Swank. Ten TIMES more addictive than marijuana!

Dood, you simply cannot multiply times 0.

Yes, say I, marijuana has 0 physically addictive traits.


Not a McBane fan I presume?

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2013-12-31 12:16:27 PM  
1 votes:

ElwoodCuse: Gentlemen, I give you: Swank. Ten TIMES more addictive than marijuana!


Dood, you simply cannot multiply times 0.

Yes, say I, marijuana has 0 physically addictive traits.
2013-12-31 12:13:23 PM  
1 votes:

mike_d85: thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.

Yes it would.  People are idiots.  They will find a high to match their personalities/tastes and run with it.  Most people like pot because it can cause euphoria with either a slight upper sensation or slight downer sensation depending on the strain.  The problem is some people just plain want to feel something other than euphoria.

I was not a fan of cocaine.  Makes the back of your throat taste like crap.  It's like snotty acid reflux with a hint of kersine.


No it wouldn't..  The only people that smoke this stuff are the people that are on probation or parole.. Everyone that uses this stuff wishes they could smoke pot..  Its only a substitute

/was on probation
//smoked k2 until i could get the real shiat
///never touched the fake stuff again
2013-12-31 12:11:51 PM  
1 votes:
And the Father of the kid who died from drinking too much alcohol says that teen drinking is worse than cocaine.
And the Father of the kid who died while texting and walked into a moving bus says that teen texting is worse than cocaine.
And the Father of the kid who committed suicide says that high school bullying is worse than cocaine.
etc, etc, etc....

People are pretty stupid.  Regular people are really bad at rationally assessing risk and reward.  Emotional people are REALLY REALLY bad at it.
2013-12-31 12:10:08 PM  
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.

Nah, it would still be there. Hell, you've got a drug out there that literally ROTS YOUR SKIN OFF and yet people still try it.

Now would a lot less people try it if weed were legalized? Sure I can believe that. But there will always be outliers who want to try shiat simply because it's there and available.


The reason people use the flesh rotting stuff is that they are already addicted (to opiates? Is that what it is?) and it is dirt cheap. People who are not already worn down to the point of caring only for their next fix don't use it, as I understand it.

There's no accounting for stupidity though. When I was in high school I knew a kid who would take white printer paper and wrap up ordinary grass, like from a lawn, and smoke it. He thought he was hot shiat too.
2013-12-31 12:08:16 PM  
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.

You keep thinking that. Street chemists will try anything.


Fine, then. K2 would be as common as 2-C-I or methcathinone. It'd be there, but you'd basically never hear about it.
2013-12-31 12:08:10 PM  
1 votes:
Father of teenager who died of a K2 overdose says the synthetic drug is "worse than cocaine"

WTF?  Why would the father even try that synthetic drug stuff?  I would think that after seeing what happened to his son he would have left it alone.
2013-12-31 12:04:52 PM  
1 votes:

snocone: scottydoesntknow: generallyso: But it also can cause seizures, high blood pressure and, in cases like Tucker's, death.


So calling it "synthetic marijuana" is bullshiat.

Of course it's bullshiat. The only synthetic marijuana is MarinolTM and that's controlled by Big Pharma.

But it's an easy way to scare parents and trick dumb stoners into thinking it's a suitable substitute.

Stop calling the terminally stupid "stoners".
There will be backlash.


I'm not saying all stoners are stupid, nor am I saying all stupid people are stoners. Think of a Venn Diagram. You've got stupid people in one circle, and stoners in the other. This shiat appeals to the small minority that fits both groups, or the stupid stoners.
2013-12-31 12:01:34 PM  
1 votes:

brantgoose: As a couple of people have already hinted, to me, K2 is nothing but a mountain in Baltistan (Pakistan).

Had to Google that.

Then I had to Google K2, the drug. It's synthetic "marijuana". I don't know how that could kill anybody unless they took a major over-dose. I can see the mountain killing people though. It is the second highest in the world. One of it's several names is Godwin-Austen.

Ha! ha! I just Godwin-Austened this thread, dudes and dudettes!


Keep in mind, just because K2 is advertised as synthetic marijuana, and has a similar high to marijuana, doesn't mean it actually is marijuana.  K2 is loaded with chemicals that have really dangerous effects on people.
2013-12-31 12:00:27 PM  
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: generallyso: But it also can cause seizures, high blood pressure and, in cases like Tucker's, death.


So calling it "synthetic marijuana" is bullshiat.

Of course it's bullshiat. The only synthetic marijuana is MarinolTM and that's controlled by Big Pharma.

But it's an easy way to scare parents and trick dumb stoners into thinking it's a suitable substitute.


Stop calling the terminally stupid "stoners".
There will be backlash.
2013-12-31 11:54:46 AM  
1 votes:

SauronWasFramed: Mr. Everest said to be walking the other way....



If you are looking for a high, try Olympus Mons.
2013-12-31 11:52:23 AM  
1 votes:
Cocaine, as it turns out, is actually amazingly benign when not heavily abused.
2013-12-31 11:51:41 AM  
1 votes:

thurstonxhowell: If weed were legal, K2 wouldn't be a thing.


You keep thinking that. Street chemists will try anything.
2013-12-31 10:40:37 AM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: K2 put Michael Schumacher into a coma.
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Look at all that cocaine.
2013-12-31 10:25:23 AM  
1 votes:
Cocaine is great, if you have a lot of money.
2013-12-31 09:43:13 AM  
1 votes:
"We know he's going to die...it's just a question of when."

Yea....that's the exact same as every single other person on this earth.

Wait, he's 22?! Tell him to grow up and get some real pot.
2013-12-31 09:40:16 AM  
1 votes:
Hey kids!  Want to get high?  Well, if you must, STICK TO GRASS!  This fake stuff is bad news all around.

1.  Get random dried herbs
2.  Spray with ?????? made in China
3.  fail
 
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