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(Huffington Post)   In spite of the best efforts of the Duggars, population growth in the U.S. has slowed to the lowest rate in the past several decades   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 27
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2013-12-31 11:59:24 AM  
4 votes:
Good.
2013-12-31 12:00:23 PM  
3 votes:
2013-12-31 02:32:17 PM  
2 votes:

RaisingKane: traylor: Overpopulation isn't the problem, too many stupid people is.

InterruptingQuirk: It is a little silly how right Idiocracy is.

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As much as I respect Randall Munroe, that little diatribe was lacking in everything except "because I say so"
2013-12-31 01:17:49 PM  
2 votes:

InterruptingQuirk: traylor: Crewmannumber6: Since overpopulation is at the root of just about all society's problems, good.

Overpopulation isn't the problem, too many stupid people is.

It is a little silly how right Idiocracy is. Smart people might take note and stop being so selfish and eco-minded and Fark a couple brains into this world at a greater than replacement rate.


How about we just take education seriously in this country? Maybe instead of spending more than the next ten nations combined in military spending, we could have free education from birth to college graduation.
2013-12-31 12:28:31 PM  
2 votes:
I really don't want to have a child in this political and economic dump.

/not even joking
2013-12-31 12:25:09 PM  
2 votes:
Since overpopulation is at the root of just about all society's problems, good.
2014-01-01 12:13:51 AM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The US can handle population growth fine -- we have the space, and have plenty of natural resources (food, water) to feed the new population.

Keep this post in mind next time you're stuck in traffic


This has less to do with population, and more to do with city planning. Suburbs are the devil.
2013-12-31 08:44:08 PM  
1 votes:

Lawnchair: shortymac: No shiat, having a kid is a gigantic liability in America, there's 0 paid mat leave and daycare is approaching college-level prices it's insane for anyone to have one unless you're well-off or have parental support.

In contrast, in Ontario I get a year off paid at 70% (I believe) of my income and my Hubby can take 3 months off. However, instead of it being a cost to the business it comes out of our Unemployment Insurance.

All of which is entirely true, and yet the US still manages to have a stronger birth rate than Canada (or dozens of other countries that have lots of pro-natal incentives).


I believe the only reason why is because an active minority in the US trying to ban BC and any sex education, which leads to higher birth rates of "oops!" babies. All the places with "abstinance-only education" have very high teen birth rates.

In Canada, going to the gyno is covered by OHIP and you don't have to dodge protesters to get free BC pills at the Planned Parenthood.

Moreover, abortion is also free, but we have much less abortions per capita than the US, thanks to easy access of BC. (source:  http://data.un.org/Data.aspx?d=GenderStat&f=inID%3A12">http://data.un .org/Data.aspx?d=GenderStat&f=inID%3A12)
2013-12-31 06:46:32 PM  
1 votes:

stuffy: The bad thing is, one day idiots like the Duggars will outnumber us.


Thankfully, that won't be the case thanks to the internet and the majority of Americans becoming far less conservative.

It's why all the quiverfulls and neo-dominionists practice homeschooling and heavily censor their kids' entertainment and socialization. Otherwise they realize their parent's are total bullshiat. The Duggar's kids are going to be an interesting case study, but the problem might be they have so much wrapped in their image that they feel forced to keep the gravy train going.

In fact, I would love to figure out the amount of kids that leave the movement. Even if you keep them in their bubble they can still leave it when they get married like in "No Longer Quivering":  http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/

/Her journey is amazing
2013-12-31 03:32:52 PM  
1 votes:

Cymbal: Does college graduation include an Associates degree? Bachelors? In many large cities you need a Masters degree to teach in primary school. Even pharmacists need a PhD to get licensed now. Is that free for someone who goes for a degree in Sociology just as free for someone who goes into the Engineering department? There is a huge difference in the cost of all the options.

Pharm.D. There's quite a difference between a professional doctorate and a research oriented PhD.

That's what I meant, you merely point out how true it is regarding the variance in the cost of schooling for different specialties.

Why does it matter though? So what if some people receive more free education than others. Base it on merit and demand, and adjust the acceptance rates accordingly. This is pretty much how it operates now, the only difference being no more student loans.


Cuz money makes the world go round, the world go round, the world go round.

I guess merit based education is a nice idea. I imagine there will still be people who buy their way in, unless we legislate that option out, then liberty goes with it. Do we still employ affirmative action methods in this merit based educational model? Are there obligations imposed on people to serve in the public sphere for a period of time following their graduation from higher education? Does college education become mandatory at that point as well? Is this a further step to keep young people from taking jobs that adults need? Besides taking away the precious from war hawks, how do we pay for it? What kind of economy do we have to adopt to make this a reality considering there is a trillion dollars in student loan debt as of right now?
2013-12-31 01:39:30 PM  
1 votes:
These aren't the best of times.
2013-12-31 01:25:03 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: InterruptingQuirk: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: ameeriklane: The reason this is troubling is that the young people are needed to provide the tax base that covers costs for the old people.

The US is one of the few developed countries with strongly positive population growth, thanks to a mix of high birth rates (around 2.0 -- replacement rate is 2.1) and immigration. The US population increased by 30 million between 2000 and 2010 (census years). That's like taking the entire populations of Greece, Austria, and Portugal  combined and moving them to the US.

What the article didn't look at is the comparable rate in other developed countries, which would be the US's potential competitors for labor, production, etc. In Europe in particular, they're quite badly off in this regard.

The US can handle population growth fine -- we have the space, and have plenty of natural resources (food, water) to feed the new population.

Keep this post in mind next time you're stuck in traffic

People only get stuck in traffic because we insist on having business sectors to keep the traffic away from residential sectors. If our businesses were to return to the neighborhoods or telecommuting were to greatly increase, I dare say we would alleviate much of it.

Huh? There are housing developments behind every strip mall and office building here.

If everyone walked to work, the sidewalks would be just as crowded as the highways are now.


We can't have that, people might meet their neighbors.
2013-12-31 01:12:38 PM  
1 votes:

traylor: Crewmannumber6: Since overpopulation is at the root of just about all society's problems, good.

Overpopulation isn't the problem, too many stupid people is.


It is a little silly how right Idiocracy is. Smart people might take note and stop being so selfish and eco-minded and Fark a couple brains into this world at a greater than replacement rate.
2013-12-31 01:12:38 PM  
1 votes:

ameeriklane: The reason this is troubling is that the young people are needed to provide the tax base that covers costs for the old people.

The US is one of the few developed countries with strongly positive population growth, thanks to a mix of high birth rates (around 2.0 -- replacement rate is 2.1) and immigration. The US population increased by 30 million between 2000 and 2010 (census years). That's like taking the entire populations of Greece, Austria, and Portugal  combined and moving them to the US.

What the article didn't look at is the comparable rate in other developed countries, which would be the US's potential competitors for labor, production, etc. In Europe in particular, they're quite badly off in this regard.

The US can handle population growth fine -- we have the space, and have plenty of natural resources (food, water) to feed the new population.


Keep this post in mind next time you're stuck in traffic
2013-12-31 01:09:03 PM  
1 votes:

traylor: Crewmannumber6: Since overpopulation is at the root of just about all society's problems, good.

Overpopulation isn't the problem, too many stupid people is.


What were the major problems not attributable to population?
2013-12-31 01:08:14 PM  
1 votes:
The reason this is troubling is that the young people are needed to provide the tax base that covers costs for the old people.

The US is one of the few developed countries with strongly positive population growth, thanks to a mix of high birth rates (around 2.0 -- replacement rate is 2.1) and immigration. The US population increased by 30 million between 2000 and 2010 (census years). That's like taking the entire populations of Greece, Austria, and Portugal  combined and moving them to the US.

What the article didn't look at is the comparable rate in other developed countries, which would be the US's potential competitors for labor, production, etc. In Europe in particular, they're quite badly off in this regard.

The US can handle population growth fine -- we have the space, and have plenty of natural resources (food, water) to feed the new population.
2013-12-31 01:05:20 PM  
1 votes:

Wangiss: Crewmannumber6: Since overpopulation is at the root of just about all society's problems, good.

That's weird.  What was the root of just about all of society's problems before we were overpopulated?


Just population, there are just more of them now so the problems are bigger
2013-12-31 01:02:49 PM  
1 votes:
2013-12-31 12:58:46 PM  
1 votes:
No shiat, having a kid is a gigantic liability in America, there's 0 paid mat leave and daycare is approaching college-level prices it's insane for anyone to have one unless you're well-off or have parental support.

Even my spoiled cousin couldn't get free daycare from her indulgent mother for more than 2 years, so that's doubtful that they'll get it for their other kid.

In contrast, in Ontario I get a year off paid at 70% (I believe) of my income and my Hubby can take 3 months off. However, instead of it being a cost to the business it comes out of our Unemployment Insurance.

I think it's funny that in America we claim to be "pro-business" but we leave a lot of benefits on the employer's dime, like healthcare and mat leave.
2013-12-31 12:31:18 PM  
1 votes:

stuffy: The bad thing is, one day idiots like the Duggars will outnumber us.


Yup.  It's the people who have kids who... have kids.

/I'm an idiot (false)
//With so many babies (true)
///Idiocracy (prediction)
2013-12-31 12:30:12 PM  
1 votes:
Ask Japan what the consequences are.
2013-12-31 12:21:32 PM  
1 votes:

GodComplex: whosits_112: ltdanman44: cost of children  >  wanting children

Seriously. Formula and diapers are ridiculously expensive...

That and childcare. Almost not worth it to work.


Universal childcare should have been part of the ACA.
2013-12-31 12:11:09 PM  
1 votes:

stuffy: The bad thing is, one day idiots like the Duggars will outnumber us.

2013-12-31 12:08:54 PM  
1 votes:

Babbs: Smackledorfer: Good.

2013-12-31 12:07:09 PM  
1 votes:

Smackledorfer: Good.


Unfortunately our brilliant leaders have based everything on the fact that there will always be an increasing amount of tax payers to pay for all of this shiat they've 'purchased'.
2013-12-31 12:03:12 PM  
1 votes:
I bet if they measured population growth in pounds it would still be increasing.
2013-12-31 12:01:43 PM  
1 votes:
cost of children  >  wanting children
 
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