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2013-12-31 08:23:06 AM  
so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.
 
2013-12-31 08:31:35 AM  
If only responsibility was as common-place as these guns.
 
2013-12-31 08:31:44 AM  

Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.


Didn't watch the video long enough to get to the punchline, I guess.

/Not going to spoil it.
 
2013-12-31 08:53:47 AM  

Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.


6/10 - you forgot to mention that the proper term for a person who just got robbed is "pro-gun advocate."  Also, the term "Fartbongo" never came up.
 
2013-12-31 08:59:38 AM  

Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.


Hey, nothing like throwing out some righteous indignation without knowing what you're talking about...rant on, sir...rant on. Keep up the good fight. Protect your 'murican rights.
 
2013-12-31 09:07:34 AM  
Livingroom: the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.


"training gun" = "battle rifle"

".22" = "battle rifle"

Got it, check.
 
2013-12-31 09:08:15 AM  
Buying a rifle in a gas station... something you surely won't see in any European style socialist country that still bow to a monarch.
 
2013-12-31 09:11:01 AM  
Meh, I know a place I could buy a rifle and get my hair cut in the same red barn.  We used to have a convenient drive-up store that sold beer, smokes & ammo.  Seriously, it was named Beer, Smokes & Ammo, in Flint.
 
2013-12-31 09:11:17 AM  

Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.


And we on the left are pretty tired of the straw man "gun grabber" arguments from the right.

Firearms license. Then you can buy and transport any firearm you like. Only requirement for getting one is a check to make sure you aren't a violent criminal or dangerously mentally ill, otherwise it cannot be denied. Ideally, there would also be a course on firearms safety, handling and relevant law (we'll regulated militia and all that).

Storage in a gun safe unless you have it in your possession (in your holster, on a nightstand table, in your car's passenger compartment or trunk, etc.. would count as in your possession). Make it harder for people who aren't licensed to get ahold of your guns.
 
2013-12-31 09:15:13 AM  

Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.


I'll spoil it. The video and purchase of the firearm actually takes place in Canada.
 
2013-12-31 09:16:29 AM  

numbquil: Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

I'll spoil it. The video and purchase of the firearm actually takes place in Canada.


Boooooo!
 
2013-12-31 09:17:13 AM  
Attention everyone!!!

Before writing ignorant comments about gun control in the United States, you should actually watch the video. It takes place in Canada not 'Murica.
 
2013-12-31 09:17:24 AM  
Er. Mah. Gerd.

It's a video of a person with a proper weapons permit buying a weapon from a legal gun dealer. Errybody panic.
 
2013-12-31 09:23:59 AM  
There is nothing wrong with buying a rifle up here as long as it is not prohibited. I've seen these TARs listed for about $2100 and they're available all over the place. I haven't heard of anyone use a bullpup when going hunting so I dont think there is a lot of demand for it.

Also, we have magazines pinned to 5 rounds with a few exceptions. In the video though, he fires 10 rounds in a row, so I'm guessing he brought his own magazines from across the border or unpinned them
 
2013-12-31 09:25:46 AM  

DuudeStanky: There is nothing wrong with buying a rifle up here as long as it is not prohibited.


What sort of waepons was the guy talking about that are restricted and hard-to-get? Full-auto?
 
2013-12-31 09:27:01 AM  
Canadian accent gives him away way early.
 
2013-12-31 09:29:11 AM  
"Battle rifle"?

Is that a gun used by Battle Toads?
 
2013-12-31 09:34:11 AM  

the_rev: DuudeStanky: There is nothing wrong with buying a rifle up here as long as it is not prohibited.

What sort of waepons was the guy talking about that are restricted and hard-to-get? Full-auto?


Nah, restricted are typically just any rifle under a certain length and are semi-auto. Nothing is tough about getting them. You take a firearms safety course and have the right license and you can get one.
Prohibiteds are full-auto or with a barrel length under the legal limit which are offlimits.

But I guess that is a bit different than the states where you can buy anything
 
2013-12-31 09:38:37 AM  

Zasteva: Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

And we on the left are pretty tired of the straw man "gun grabber" arguments from the right.

Firearms license. Then you can buy and transport any firearm you like. Only requirement for getting one is a check to make sure you aren't a violent criminal or dangerously mentally ill, otherwise it cannot be denied. Ideally, there would also be a course on firearms safety, handling and relevant law (we'll regulated militia and all that).

Storage in a gun safe unless you have it in your possession (in your holster, on a nightstand table, in your car's passenger compartment or trunk, etc.. would count as in your possession). Make it harder for people who aren't licensed to get ahold of your guns.


But what if the criminal who breaks into my house isn't interested in tossing the house in order to look for firearms?

What if he is only interested in raping my granddaughter, daughter or wife.


Should they be put in the safe too?
 
2013-12-31 09:49:19 AM  
Zasteva

Ideally, there would also be a course on firearms safety, handling and relevant law (we'll regulated militia and all that).
Words mean things


The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
 
2013-12-31 09:54:04 AM  

Giltric: Zasteva: Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

And we on the left are pretty tired of the straw man "gun grabber" arguments from the right.

Firearms license. Then you can buy and transport any firearm you like. Only requirement for getting one is a check to make sure you aren't a violent criminal or dangerously mentally ill, otherwise it cannot be denied. Ideally, there would also be a course on firearms safety, handling and relevant law (we'll regulated militia and all that).

Storage in a gun safe unless you have it in your possession (in your holster, on a nightstand table, in your car's passenger compartment or trunk, etc.. would count as in your possession). Make it harder for people who aren't licensed to get ahold of your guns.

But what if the criminal who breaks into my house isn't interested in tossing the house in order to look for firearms?

What if he is only interested in raping my granddaughter, daughter or wife.


Should they be put in the safe too?


Ideally, they should be in the freezer so they don't spoil
 
2013-12-31 09:57:29 AM  
He mentioned a bullet shortage that Americans are complaining about.

Is that a real thing?

I'm assuming that if there is a bullet shortage, it's because the fear of "gun-grabbers" drove everyone out to buy as much ammunition as they could store. And I'm sure everyone then blamed it on the "gun-grabbers."
 
2013-12-31 09:58:03 AM  
YT

Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.


Yeah, f*ck Sandy Hook and Newton, Mass. Those little bastards had it coming.

Last count, there were 54 attacks in schools by gun weilding, right to bear arms to protect themselves against children, since 2010. Think of all those children who are no longer alive...because of the brave individuals who had the right to bear arms, guaranteed in your constitution, against crazed little kids. Thank God your country is populated be clear level headed individuals who understand you have the right to murder innocent people. Phew.
From what I read about Adam Lanza, in one bathroom there were 20 dead children piled up in one bathroom. The youngest was a 6 year old girl. Shot on average 3 times.

List of school shootings on wiki.

Count the dead, and enjoy gun owners. It's fun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_ St ates#2010s


...there's nothing to argue. You have the right to bear arms, I have the right to say you're one sick in the head f*cked up country if you let this go on.
 
2013-12-31 10:00:58 AM  

lostcat: He mentioned a bullet shortage that Americans are complaining about.

Is that a real thing?

I'm assuming that if there is a bullet shortage, it's because the fear of "gun-grabbers" drove everyone out to buy as much ammunition as they could store. And I'm sure everyone then blamed it on the "gun-grabbers."


That is pretty much is it. Because once Obama taxes every bullet purchase before he bans all weapons with the help of the UN blue helmets, you'll be sorry you didn't buy.  Obama truly is the gun and ammo shop's best friend.
 
2013-12-31 10:01:30 AM  

lostcat: He mentioned a bullet shortage that Americans are complaining about.

Is that a real thing?

I'm assuming that if there is a bullet shortage, it's because the fear of "gun-grabbers" drove everyone out to buy as much ammunition as they could store. And I'm sure everyone then blamed it on the "gun-grabbers."


Resellers.....profiteers

Same mechanism that pushed a 500$ rifle to prices above 2k.


I mean the hand of the free market.
 
2013-12-31 10:04:12 AM  
Giltric:

But what if the criminal who breaks into my house isn't interested in tossing the house in order to look for firearms?

What if he is only interested in raping my granddaughter, daughter or wife.


Should they be put in the safe too?


www.gonemovies.com

Painful to live in fear, isn't it?
 
2013-12-31 10:06:35 AM  

indarwinsshadow: YTLivingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

Yeah, f*ck Sandy Hook and Newton, Mass. Those little bastards had it coming.

Last count, there were 54 attacks in schools by gun weilding, right to bear arms to protect themselves against children, since 2010. Think of all those children who are no longer alive...because of the brave individuals who had the right to bear arms, guaranteed in your constitution, against crazed little kids. Thank God your country is populated be clear level headed individuals who understand you have the right to murder innocent people. Phew.
From what I read about Adam Lanza, in one bathroom there were 20 dead children piled up in one bathroom. The youngest was a 6 year old girl. Shot on average 3 times.

List of school shootings on wiki.

Count the dead, and enjoy gun owners. It's fun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_ St ates#2010s


...there's nothing to argue. You have the right to bear arms, I have the right to say you're one sick in the head f*cked up country if you let this go on.


I was expecting thousands of dead.
WTF is this hundreds of dead shiat since the 1800s?


Your list also includes suicides, and shootings that just happened to take place near a school by people who are not school aged kids.
 
2013-12-31 10:06:55 AM  

Livingroom: i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.


For what it's worth, I identify pretty strongly with the "left", and I happen to agree with you, mostly. I know I'm splitting hairs here, but I'd be more comfortable with the phrase "gun control advocates" or "anti-gun". The current partisan divide was built on statements like "...problem with the left is..."
 
2013-12-31 10:07:14 AM  

numbquil: Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

I'll spoil it. The video and purchase of the firearm actually takes place in Canada.


I see you didn't watch the WHOLE thing, either... not only in Canada, but that "Public/Government land" he's shooting on... it's an elementary school playground!

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2013-12-31 10:14:42 AM  

lostcat: Giltric:

But what if the criminal who breaks into my house isn't interested in tossing the house in order to look for firearms?

What if he is only interested in raping my granddaughter, daughter or wife.


Should they be put in the safe too?

[www.gonemovies.com image 750x306]

Painful to live in fear, isn't it?


I don't know. I have no experience with fear.

Tell me what it's like.
 
2013-12-31 10:19:31 AM  

indarwinsshadow: YTLivingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

Yeah, f*ck Sandy Hook and Newton, Mass. Those little bastards had it coming.

Last count, there were 54 attacks in schools by gun weilding, right to bear arms to protect themselves against children, since 2010. Think of all those children who are no longer alive...because of the brave individuals who had the right to bear arms, guaranteed in your constitution, against crazed little kids. Thank God your country is populated be clear level headed individuals who understand you have the right to murder innocent people. Phew.
From what I read about Adam Lanza, in one bathroom there were 20 dead children piled up in one bathroom. The youngest was a 6 year old girl. Shot on average 3 times.

List of school shootings on wiki.

Count the dead, and enjoy gun owners. It's fun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_ St ates#2010s


...there's nothing to argue. You have the right to bear arms, I have the right to say you're one sick in the head f*cked up country if you let this go on.


Sick people do sick things.  If guns didn't exist, those atrocities would have been committed with other tools and methods.
 
2013-12-31 10:20:22 AM  
OMG!! next thing you know they will start selling alcohol at gas stations!!
It can only lead to THE END OF THE WORLD!!!

Thats it, We MUST ban gas stations!!
 
2013-12-31 10:33:24 AM  

fatbear: Livingroom: the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.


"training gun" = "battle rifle"

".22" = "battle rifle"

Got it, check.


heres an hk g3 (hk91) with the drop in 22 conversion for training. remove the dropin and its a 308 main battlerifle. bazookabrothers.com
 
2013-12-31 10:58:48 AM  
See! Canada dies want to be just like us!
 
2013-12-31 11:13:06 AM  

Livingroom: you want to affect gun violence?


It's not the firearms.  It's the sick way the U.S. embraces violence.
 
2013-12-31 11:20:55 AM  

BubbaWilkins: indarwinsshadow: YTLivingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

Yeah, f*ck Sandy Hook and Newton, Mass. Those little bastards had it coming.

Last count, there were 54 attacks in schools by gun weilding, right to bear arms to protect themselves against children, since 2010. Think of all those children who are no longer alive...because of the brave individuals who had the right to bear arms, guaranteed in your constitution, against crazed little kids. Thank God your country is populated be clear level headed individuals who understand you have the right to murder innocent people. Phew.
From what I read about Adam Lanza, in one bathroom there were 20 dead children piled up in one bathroom. The youngest was a 6 year old girl. Shot on average 3 times.

List of school shootings on wiki.

Count the dead, and enjoy gun owners. It's fun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_ St ates#2010s


...there's nothing to argue. You have the right to bear arms, I have the right to say you're one sick in the head f*cked up country if you let this go on.

Sick people do sick things.  If guns didn't exist, those atrocities would have been committed with other tools and methods.


Think of how many interesting internet jokes would be created by the first person to chain a few doors and lighting a fire.
 
2013-12-31 11:23:33 AM  

OnlyM3: Zasteva

Ideally, there would also be a course on firearms safety, handling and relevant law (we'll regulated militia and all that).Words mean things


The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.


Odd that, since American states passed laws regulating the militias and access to firearms from the very beginning of this nation (e.g. militias existed and were regulated by state law, they weren't just a bunch of guys getting together to play with guns, and  free African-Americans were banned from owning in many states and many towns banned open carry). The 2nd Amendment ONLY applied to the federal government and was intended to protect the state militias from federal interference. It had nothing to do with an individual's right to own a gun. That is an innovative (perhaps activist?) interpretation of modern America.

That being said, most Americans of the day probably would have agreed that the right of adult white men to own guns was a right, just one of the unlisted ones. It was not what the 2nd Amendment was about when written.

Essentially, like most modern Americans talking about the Constitution, you don't understand what the point of the document was when it was first created, and you mostly just assert it meant what you want it to have meant.
 
2013-12-31 11:28:41 AM  
Giltric: Zasteva:  Storage in a gun safe unless you have it in your possession (in your holster, on a nightstand table, in your car's passenger compartment or trunk, etc.. would count as in your possession). Make it harder for people who aren't licensed to get ahold of your guns.

Glitric: But what if the criminal who breaks into my house isn't interested in tossing the house in order to look for firearms?

What if he is only interested in raping my granddaughter, daughter or wife.

Should they be put in the safe too?


Then you shoot them with the gun that's on your nightstand. Of if your wife or granddaughter have firearms licenses, they shoot them with theirs.

/statistically speaking a woman is far more likely to be shot by her husband or partner in a domestic dispute than raped during a home invasion by a random criminal.
 
2013-12-31 11:31:29 AM  

OnlyM3: Zasteva

Ideally, there would also be a course on firearms safety, handling and relevant law (we'll regulated militia and all that).Words mean things


The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.


Which is exactly the sense in which I'm using the term "well regulated". How can you have a well regulated militia (ie: well trained, organized and in proper working order) if the gun owners in our society don't know how to handle them, and don't know the laws and regulations governing their use?
 
2013-12-31 11:36:54 AM  

eiger: Essentially, like most modern Americans talking about the Constitution, you don't understand what the point of the document was when it was first created, and you mostly just assert it meant what you want it to have meant.


"Local Area Man Passionate Defender of What He Imagines the Constitution to Be!"
 
2013-12-31 11:45:05 AM  

LesserEvil: Livingroom: so? we have a right to own guns. non-story here. hell, most deer hunters use "military grade battle rifles" - the venerable lever-action 30-30. the original "assault rifle" and if you dont believe me, ask the indians about lever repeating rifles... the use of the term "military grade battle rifle" is a misnomer because all rifles are essentially "military grade battle rifles" - the germans use .22's to train their troops.

i'm so sick and tired of bullshiat from the left about guns. you want to do something about guns? then come up with a plan that works - "ban all guns" doesnt work because the people dont want it. you want to affect gun violence? laws arent likely to do that. the cat is 30 generations out of the bag on this one.

Didn't watch the video long enough to get to the punchline, I guess.

/Not going to spoil it.


Considering that it is titled "How easy is it to buy guns in the U.S.?!" I may have to give him a pass.
 
2013-12-31 11:46:27 AM  
this video is a lie - Filmed in Canada by Canucks.
 
2013-12-31 11:46:57 AM  

lostcat: He mentioned a bullet shortage that Americans are complaining about.

Is that a real thing?

I'm assuming that if there is a bullet shortage, it's because the fear of "gun-grabbers" drove everyone out to buy as much ammunition as they could store. And I'm sure everyone then blamed it on the "gun-grabbers."


Some ammunition manufacturers have contracts with the government, and they're required to fill military orders first.  A lot of them shifted production to meet the increased demand of Iraq and Afghanistan.  Because of its perpetrator, I'm assuming they can't legally sell the excess military-grade 5.56mm and 7.62mm they cranked out, even if they wanted to.

Of course, wars that started in 2001 and 2003 are you-know-who's fault.
 
2013-12-31 11:47:48 AM  

Sgt Otter: lostcat: He mentioned a bullet shortage that Americans are complaining about.

Is that a real thing?

I'm assuming that if there is a bullet shortage, it's because the fear of "gun-grabbers" drove everyone out to buy as much ammunition as they could store. And I'm sure everyone then blamed it on the "gun-grabbers."

Some ammunition manufacturers have contracts with the government, and they're required to fill military orders first.  A lot of them shifted production to meet the increased demand of Iraq and Afghanistan.  Because of its perpetrator penetrator, I'm assuming they can't legally sell the excess military-grade 5.56mm and 7.62mm they cranked out, even if they wanted to.

Of course, wars that started in 2001 and 2003 are you-know-who's fault.


FTFM
 
2013-12-31 12:04:16 PM  
From LivingRoom's Bio:


personally, i dont care if you're gay, or want to use contraceptives, or want to be atheist, or whatever: just dont use those platforms to try and take away things i enjoy, like guns, freedom of religion, etc. and dont get all up in my face about it.

He is worried that people will use contraceptives, atheist wants, and gay thoughts to take away his guns.

wtf
 
2013-12-31 12:10:12 PM  
The magazines on that Tavor were restricted. Notice he never fired more than 10 rounds at a time. Pure lame.

BTW....the Tavor is vastly superior to any/all AR style platforms.
 
2013-12-31 12:12:46 PM  

lack of warmth: Seriously, it was named Beer, Smokes & Ammo, in Flint.


I see.
 
2013-12-31 12:17:53 PM  

OnlyM3: Zasteva

Ideally, there would also be a course on firearms safety, handling and relevant law (we'll regulated militia and all that).Words mean things


The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.


Bull. Shiat. (The second farking page, nimrod.)
Oh, and this, too.
 
2013-12-31 12:18:15 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: lack of warmth: Seriously, it was named Beer, Smokes & Ammo, in Flint.

I see.


Well, it surprised me.  It looked like something I would find in SC.
 
2013-12-31 12:20:03 PM  

eiger: The 2nd Amendment ONLY applied to the federal government and was intended to protect the state militias from federal interference.


Bullshiat.
 
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