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(Sports Illustrated)   Everyone who has set the single season passing record, please step forward. Not so fast Mr. Manning   (nfl.si.com) divider line 81
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2013-12-30 11:24:11 PM
"Manning drools, I rule. His entire season is an abject failure"

-Wade Phillips
 
2013-12-30 11:38:59 PM
As much as I'd like to see Drew keep the record, I doubt he wants it back like this.
 
2013-12-30 11:42:01 PM
LOL, if the Elias Sports Bureau has balls that big...
 
2013-12-30 11:42:47 PM

Nabb1: As much as I'd like to see Drew keep the record, I doubt he wants it back like this.


still, the NFL should make sure they get it right. they have their integrity to cons...

wow, i couldn't even type that with a straight face.
 
2013-12-30 11:58:15 PM
That's a pretty specious argument, there. I'm not buying it.
 
2013-12-31 12:32:59 AM
Do eeeet!!!!
 
2013-12-31 12:36:47 AM
Won't matter if he gets a ring.
 
2013-12-31 02:41:39 AM
They should let Drew have his now tainted record.  Peyton has the TDs per season record, and he'll get the well-deserved AFC MVP of 2013.  And when he loses in his first game of the playoffs, he'll have more time to make commercials.  It's wins for everyone.
 
2013-12-31 02:48:05 AM
The fourth touchdown at Polk High is set to be reviewed.
 
2013-12-31 02:51:29 AM
i.imgur.com

"After reviewing this blog post, I have decided to give the Houston Texans a 14-2 record, and the #1 seed in the AFC."
 
2013-12-31 03:08:56 AM

SilentStrider: Nabb1: As much as I'd like to see Drew keep the record, I doubt he wants it back like this.

still, the NFL should make sure they get it right. they have their integrity to cons...

wow, i couldn't even type that with a straight face.


As much as I hate Manning, I don't think it would be right to take away his record at this point, since if he had been a few yards short of the record at the time when he was pulled from the game, he would have been left in until to got it.
 
2013-12-31 03:22:46 AM

NetOwl: SilentStrider: Nabb1: As much as I'd like to see Drew keep the record, I doubt he wants it back like this.

still, the NFL should make sure they get it right. they have their integrity to cons...

wow, i couldn't even type that with a straight face.

As much as I hate Manning, I don't think it would be right to take away his record at this point, since if he had been a few yards short of the record at the time when he was pulled from the game, he would have been left in until to got it.


That's why you don't quit right at the record.  Add another 20-30 yards for safety.
 
2013-12-31 03:33:17 AM
Without the rise of fantasy football and stats this wouldn't be an issue. I think it will, though
 
2013-12-31 04:02:41 AM
I'm sure nothing remotely similar happened to Brees that year...
 
2013-12-31 04:32:08 AM
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-31 04:49:23 AM
img.fark.net
 
2013-12-31 04:57:37 AM

zerkalo: Without the rise of fantasy football and stats this wouldn't be an issue. I think it will, though


My FFL is with CBS Sports, using their Standard scoring format, which expressly states that stats as recorded live during game are final, regardless of changes by the NFL after review.

Thank you Mr. Manning for Boozers & Losers winning the Moe division [Moe, Larry & Curly] with a 6-7 record, and 3rd highest Reg. Season points.
 
2013-12-31 05:07:17 AM
No dog in this fight but the record still belongs to Brees
 
2013-12-31 06:09:49 AM

seventypercent: [i.imgur.com image 560x421]

"After reviewing this blog post, I have decided to give the Houston Texans a 14-2 record, and the #1 seed in the AFC."


www.gannett-cdn.com

"Remember me?"

/so at least the NFL hasn't stooped to THAT level
//yet
 
2013-12-31 06:41:15 AM
Lulz ad infinitum if the NFL revokes Manning's record
 
2013-12-31 06:42:09 AM
Right, because that was the only questionable forward pass vs. lateral call in any of their combined 32 games, and absolutely every reception or incompletion or PI call/noncall for either of them was called correctly and every pass play always results in an exactly even number of yards gained and the ball is spotted absolutely perfectly by the refs on every single play.

Both their numbers might be off by 100 yards in either direction from the "real" number.  Hell, Dan Marino might still be the actual record holder.

/Human element, biatches.  Deal with it.
 
2013-12-31 06:49:50 AM
Something similar happened to Randy Moss that season he broke the receiving TDs record. He caught what was thought to be the record-tying TD but they went back and said it was a lateral and therefore a rushing TD for Moss. I think that one was corrected during the game though.

/I was drunk a lot back then, so I could be way, way off
 
2013-12-31 07:13:10 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: NetOwl: SilentStrider: Nabb1: As much as I'd like to see Drew keep the record, I doubt he wants it back like this.

still, the NFL should make sure they get it right. they have their integrity to cons...

wow, i couldn't even type that with a straight face.

As much as I hate Manning, I don't think it would be right to take away his record at this point, since if he had been a few yards short of the record at the time when he was pulled from the game, he would have been left in until to got it.

That's why you don't quit right at the record.  Add another 20-30 yards for safety.


Exactly. I saw that he'd broken the record by one yard and then was pulled and figured there was a chance that could come back and bite him in the butt.
 
2013-12-31 07:33:55 AM
Let the balding, stat-padding midget have his silly record if it keeps him happy. He and his home dome brethren can relive those memories once they lose on the road. As usual.
 
2013-12-31 07:49:37 AM
5,477*
 
2013-12-31 08:15:40 AM

dookdookdook: Right, because that was the only questionable forward pass vs. lateral call in any of their combined 32 games, and absolutely every reception or incompletion or PI call/noncall for either of them was called correctly and every pass play always results in an exactly even number of yards gained and the ball is spotted absolutely perfectly by the refs on every single play.

Both their numbers might be off by 100 yards in either direction from the "real" number.  Hell, Dan Marino might still be the actual record holder.

/Human element, biatches.  Deal with it.



Note the bolded word in the following quote from TFA:

"The Elias Sports Bureau reviews game tape and stat sheets for the NFL after every week of games"

That said, I seem to recall Brees not taking a single down off all of 2011, much less an entire half.  Let Manning keep the record.  He clearly had the better year.
 
2013-12-31 08:21:58 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: NetOwl: SilentStrider: Nabb1: As much as I'd like to see Drew keep the record, I doubt he wants it back like this.

still, the NFL should make sure they get it right. they have their integrity to cons...

wow, i couldn't even type that with a straight face.

As much as I hate Manning, I don't think it would be right to take away his record at this point, since if he had been a few yards short of the record at the time when he was pulled from the game, he would have been left in until to got it.

That's why you don't quit right at the record.  Add another 20-30 yards for safety.


I definitely see your point, but you're balancing between two (unlikely) possibilities:

1 - You pull Manning without a "record cushion" and somehow he loses it retroactively.

2 - You leave him in and he gets caught by a blindside corner blitz, concussed, and is out for the playoffs.

I didn't watch the game, so perhaps that second scenario was even less likely than the first.  But if it DID happen (and it always could), the coach would never live it down.

/second superb owl ring > record (IMHO, of course)
 
2013-12-31 08:23:40 AM

pwn3d781: seventypercent: [i.imgur.com image 560x421]

"After reviewing this blog post, I have decided to give the Houston Texans a 14-2 record, and the #1 seed in the AFC."

[www.gannett-cdn.com image 534x401]

"Remember me?"

/so at least the NFL hasn't stooped to THAT level
//yet


KC would have fined seven digits, coaching squad suspended, and whoever sat fined.

At least, if this was "sports entertained", the SD-KC game was McMahon worthy..
 
2013-12-31 08:38:56 AM
Slow To Return:"The Elias Sports Bureau reviews game tape and stat sheets for the NFL after every week of games"

Well I'm pretty sure that they're not re-measuring yardages down to the millimeter so that a meaningful distinction between 5477 yards and 5476 yards could be made after almost 1000 combined completions' worth of accumulated bad spots and rounding error.
 
2013-12-31 08:51:50 AM

Nabb1: As much as I'd like to see Drew keep the record, I doubt he wants it back like this.


This.  If Brees keeps the record in this way, it will only be because the Broncos "let" him have it.  Manning said himself that these sorts of records won't stand long.  Brees has a few good years still.
 
2013-12-31 08:53:04 AM

NetOwl: As much as I hate Manning, I don't think it would be right to take away his record at this point, since if he had been a few yards short of the record at the time when he was pulled from the game, he would have been left in until to got it.


Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: That's why you don't quit right at the record. Add another 20-30 yards for safety.


That's why a lot of these records are meaningless.

Not to mention this sort of record says more about the team and game than the player.  Not that Peyton Manning isn't one of the best QBs, but passing is up across the board compared to earlier eras (partially due to rule changes) so that someone would break the passing record was more of an inevitability than anything.
 
2013-12-31 09:07:50 AM
Just waiting for the inevitable one and done playoff exit.
 
2013-12-31 09:09:17 AM
As a Bronco fan, I say take the record away. Gives him something to play for, next year.
 
2013-12-31 09:13:44 AM
Do. Not. Care. It's all about the Lombardi, baby.

/Bronco fan.
 
2013-12-31 09:20:47 AM

dookdookdook: Slow To Return:"The Elias Sports Bureau reviews game tape and stat sheets for the NFL after every week of games"

Well I'm pretty sure that they're not re-measuring yardages down to the millimeter so that a meaningful distinction between 5477 yards and 5476 yards could be made after almost 1000 combined completions' worth of accumulated bad spots and rounding error.



No, but they ARE determining the difference between a forward pass and a lateral, which is what's in question here.
 
2013-12-31 09:32:39 AM
anyone remember that running back from the falcons back in the 70's?  iirc, two years in a row he came soooo close to a thousand yard season...had 995, then 997, once due to something like this when they took yardage away.  finally, the next year, he got his 1,000 yard season.

/14 game season
//yeah, i'm old
 
2013-12-31 09:40:41 AM
Given the way the NFL has changed the rules to inflate the offense and the passing game, how 3 or 4 quarterbacks NOT break passing records on a yearly basis is sort of astounding.

/plus, any records broken by a player who plays more than half his games in a dome should get an asterisk.
 
2013-12-31 09:46:17 AM
Karma for all those stupid frigging Pizza commercials.
 
2013-12-31 09:47:10 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Let the balding, stat-padding midget have his silly record if it keeps him happy. He and his home dome brethren can relive those memories once they lose on the road. As usual.


Given that the Superb Owl is played at a neutral site exactly how many road games did you think that Peyton has to play?
 
2013-12-31 09:50:53 AM
I figured Fox would have had Manning play the first series of the second half, just to be sure something like this wasn't brought up, but whatever.
 
2013-12-31 09:56:11 AM

stir22: anyone remember that running back from the falcons back in the 70's?  iirc, two years in a row he came soooo close to a thousand yard season...had 995, then 997, once due to something like this when they took yardage away.  finally, the next year, he got his 1,000 yard season.

/14 game season
//yeah, i'm old


Dave Hampton.  995 in 1972, 997 in 1973

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HampDa00.htm
 
2013-12-31 09:57:01 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: HaywoodJablonski: Let the balding, stat-padding midget have his silly record if it keeps him happy. He and his home dome brethren can relive those memories once they lose on the road. As usual.

Given that the Superb Owl is played at a neutral site exactly how many road games did you think that Peyton has to play?


Between Manning and Brees, which one would be considered the midget?
 
2013-12-31 09:58:13 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Let the balding, stat-padding midget have his silly record if it keeps him happy. He and his home dome brethren can relive those memories once they lose on the road. As usual.


6'0" is a midget now?  Wow, you must be really tall.
 
2013-12-31 10:06:57 AM
if Manning wins the SB this year, does he retire?
 
2013-12-31 10:11:23 AM

HotWingAgenda: That's a pretty specious argument, there. I'm not buying it.


Especially since he was benched the second half, the writer is a moron and if the NFL does take it away I would hate to be an NFL defensive coordinator in the playoffs and next year too.

Peyton seems to be the kind who gets calm when he's mad and thats not a good thing.
 
2013-12-31 10:13:02 AM
Well, if the NFL is going to be picky, none of Manning's passes against the Raiders should count. Why? The Oakland raiders are not a professional football team. They are some high school Brittany Spears players lip-syncing and waving their arms around. The December 22nd game against San Diego is just one example. Raiders had a chance to win with 2 TDs, lots of time. A competitive professional team would attempt to score quickly, try an onside kick at least some plan to win the game. What did the Raiders do? Nothing. The Raiders called one stupid play after another.
 
2013-12-31 10:20:31 AM

JusticeandIndependence: HaywoodJablonski: Let the balding, stat-padding midget have his silly record if it keeps him happy. He and his home dome brethren can relive those memories once they lose on the road. As usual.

6'0" is a midget now?  Wow, you must be really tall.


I think he's mainly referring to players padding their height numbers, Manning is easily over 6' while I have met some of the players Brees has played with and he seems closer to 5"10' than 6'.

Not a big deal but it goes on all the time, silly pride.
 
2013-12-31 10:25:46 AM

stir22: anyone remember that running back from the falcons back in the 70's?  iirc, two years in a row he came soooo close to a thousand yard season...had 995, then 997, once due to something like this when they took yardage away.  finally, the next year, he got his 1,000 yard season.

/14 game season
//yeah, i'm old


It's not him, but William Andrews was a badass.
 
2013-12-31 10:31:53 AM
Everyone who has set the single season passing record, please step forward

Had Manning stepped backward, this wouldn't be an issue.
 
2013-12-31 10:33:26 AM

steamingpile: HotWingAgenda: That's a pretty specious argument, there. I'm not buying it.

Especially since he was benched the second half, the writer is a moron and if the NFL does take it away I would hate to be an NFL defensive coordinator in the playoffs and next year too.

Peyton seems to be the kind who gets calm when he's mad and thats not a good thing.


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