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(Daily Mail)   Michael Palin says "Life of Brian" was no sweat, but he'd never dare parody Islam. "There are heavily armed people out there with no sense of humor." SILENCE -- I KILL YOU   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 75
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2013-12-30 11:50:38 PM
I didn't know there were that many Muslim Republicans?
 
2013-12-31 12:03:46 AM

fusillade762: I didn't know there were that many Muslim Republicans?


While neither group actually possesses a sense of humor, there is a difference

/Republicans think they do
 
2013-12-31 03:28:46 AM
There's a rich vein of self parody in both Church of England and Catholic traditions. And come to think of it, a very strong Jewish comedy tradition. I can't say I've been exposed to much Islamic humor, but there is some out there. I know one amateur Muslim comedian in real life, and I've seen some others on tv, but not many.

I think as with most things, a greater amount of comedy comes from those who have been grounded within their respective traditions so they can recognise the foibles that might otherwise have gone unnoticed by an outsider. There's also a power dynamic there and good comedy is about cocking a snook at the powerful - so you can poke fun at yourself, your own community and those more privileged than you. But if you punch down, not up, it's not going to be well received. This is also why conservative humor is not that successful.
 
2013-12-31 03:44:29 AM
It's time to play,  GOPer or Islamic fundie?!


There are people out there without a sense of humour and they're heavily armed
 
2013-12-31 03:48:15 AM
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thisispete: There's a rich vein of self parody in both Church of England and Catholic traditions. And come to think of it, a very strong Jewish comedy tradition. I can't say I've been exposed to much Islamic humor, but there is some out there. I know one amateur Muslim comedian in real life, and I've seen some others on tv, but not many.

I think as with most things, a greater amount of comedy comes from those who have been grounded within their respective traditions so they can recognise the foibles that might otherwise have gone unnoticed by an outsider. There's also a power dynamic there and good comedy is about cocking a snook at the powerful - so you can poke fun at yourself, your own community and those more privileged than you. But if you punch down, not up, it's not going to be well received. This is also why conservative humor is not that successful.

 
2013-12-31 04:11:50 AM
i286.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-31 05:14:09 AM

fusillade762: I didn't know there were that many Muslim Republicans?



Muslim Republicans?! Fark offffff! They're the Republic of Muslims.
 
2013-12-31 05:21:48 AM
Islamic parody would probably be the bomb.
 
2013-12-31 05:29:15 AM
From the comments section: "The comments below have been moderated in advance."
 
2013-12-31 05:29:46 AM
 
2013-12-31 05:32:59 AM
I'm not convinced that Christians in 1975 (or whenever TLOB came out) were any more tolerant than those of today.

If anything, there's fewer of them and they're largely more willing to take a joke.
 
2013-12-31 05:35:32 AM
I think their humor is unintentional. The Islamic leader in Chechnya said the Olympics in Russia were "Satanic ... and being held on the bones of their ancestors."

That actually sounds pretty funny, as I pictured the opening ceremony looking like a level of Diablo, with Chechen skulls and femurs supporting the stage.
 
2013-12-31 06:13:05 AM
I was curious if anyone knew anymore about the South Park episodes that got pulled because of showing Muhammad?
 
2013-12-31 06:18:59 AM

sleeper2995: I was curious if anyone knew anymore about the South Park episodes that got pulled because of showing Muhammad?


No episodes were pulled. Comedy Central did cover up 'Muhammad' (in a big teddy bear costume, iirc) by using a larged black rectangular block to cover the character.
It was a pretty farked up meta-episode with all the censoring of the self-censored bits and the disclaimers about the censoring.

In any case, they had actually showed Muhammad before without any problems years before.
 
2013-12-31 06:23:18 AM
Yeah I remember that episode. The Super Friends I think it was called.
 
2013-12-31 06:27:46 AM

GungFu: fusillade762: I didn't know there were that many Muslim Republicans?

Muslim Republicans?! Fark offffff! They're the Republic of Muslims.


SPLITTERS!
 
2013-12-31 06:41:52 AM
Putting a bit from Jeff Dunham in the same sentence as Life of Brian or the name of any Monty Python member is an insult to all religions.
 
2013-12-31 06:42:50 AM

LewDux: Anti-Islamic Stand Up


Another one. (NSFW language)
 
2013-12-31 06:45:43 AM

WTF Indeed: Putting a bit from Jeff Dunham in the same sentence as Life of Brian or the name of any Monty Python member is an insult to all religions.


i2.ytimg.com
 
2013-12-31 06:57:14 AM
Never Be Rude To An Arab....

An Israeli or Saudi or Jew....

Never Be Rude To An Irishman, No Matter WHAT You Dooooo...

Never Poke Fun At A N******, A Sp**** or a W**, or a Kr***...

And Never Put-

/can't believe this hasn't been posted yet
 
2013-12-31 06:59:09 AM
If you think that Jeff Dunham is humorous in any way other than the pathetic way please seek medical attention.
 
2013-12-31 07:03:05 AM
When bin Laden went on to his eternal reward, he found George Washington standing there, and George punches bin Laden in the face. Then came Thomas Jefferson, who kicked him in the balls. James Madison slapped him. Robert E. Lee gave him a wedgie. Stonewall Jackson did a wrist burn. It was like this for the rest of the day. After it was over, bin Laden went to Allah to ask what that was all about. Allah replied, "I promised you 72 Virginians... why, what did you think I said?"
 
2013-12-31 07:04:22 AM
So, this is Freedom of Speech and No Freedom From Consequences?
 
2013-12-31 07:05:30 AM

LonMead: After it was over, bin Laden went to Allah to ask what that was all about. Allah replied, "I promised you 72 Virginians... why, what did you think I said?"


i.imgur.com
 
2013-12-31 07:09:06 AM
 
2013-12-31 07:09:47 AM

The_Philosopher_King: Another comedian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYchB7Kxuvs


Oh . . . NSFW language
 
2013-12-31 07:09:49 AM

OtherLittleGuy: So, this is Freedom of Speech and No Freedom From Consequences?


Dunno, is this the United States or somewhere else?
 
2013-12-31 07:21:15 AM
The basis of chicken shiat comedy is to only make fun of people who you know won't punch you In the face.
 
2013-12-31 07:23:31 AM

jaybeezey: The basis of chicken shiat comedy is to only make fun of people who you know won't punch you In the face.


What is basis of real man comedy?
 
2013-12-31 07:33:13 AM
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Of course, there is a fundamental ignorance at work here (in the Daily Fail, no wai). The cultural taboos some Muslims have about depictions of the prophet Muhammad (depicted above in classical Islamic painting) are true for the other Prophets of Firm Resolve (like Moses, also depicted above in classical Islamic painting) or Jesus (also depicted above) or Noah and Abraham (also depicted above), so Life of Brian would probably also be offensive to those same people in question. So Palin and the other chaps have already done their part in the area, really.
 
2013-12-31 07:33:53 AM

LewDux: jaybeezey: The basis of chicken shiat comedy is to only make fun of people who you know won't punch you In the face.

What is basis of real man comedy?


Punching people in the face. Duh.
 
2013-12-31 07:50:04 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: fusillade762: I didn't know there were that many Muslim Republicans?

While neither group actually possesses a sense of humor, there is a difference

/Republicans think they do


Yeah, this guy has never been funny.   i116.photobucket.com
 
2013-12-31 07:53:26 AM

Somacandra: OtherLittleGuy: So, this is Freedom of Speech and No Freedom From Consequences?

Dunno, is this the United States or somewhere else?


Ask Matt and Trey. and Seth MacFarlane.
 
2013-12-31 07:56:18 AM
It's impressive that the mental giants around here managed to turn a story about a British comedian and Islam into an American partisan circle-jerk.
 
2013-12-31 08:10:08 AM

JackalRabbit: Islamic parody would probably be the bomb.


Ok. That was funny!  +1
 
2013-12-31 08:12:48 AM

TomD9938: I'm not convinced that Christians in 1975 (or whenever TLOB came out) were any more tolerant than those of today.

If anything, there's fewer of them and they're largely more willing to take a joke.


I remember going to see "Life of Brian" in the theater. Despite the "R" rating, the theater's management felt it necessary to place a written announcement at the ticket counter warning that the film might be offensive.

It pissed a LOT of people off, if memory serves. I've since known practicing Catholics, priests included, who cite it as one of their all-time favorite comedies.
 
2013-12-31 08:29:27 AM

thisispete: There's also a power dynamic there and good comedy is about cocking a snook at the powerful - so you can poke fun at yourself, your own community and those more privileged than you. But if you punch down, not up, it's not going to be well received. This is also why conservative humor is not that successful.


flowtv.org

media.ticketmaster.com

What "conservative" comedy might look like.
 
2013-12-31 08:29:46 AM
The scene where Brian is being followed by the zealots and they beg him for food and he points to a juniper bush and they think he has done a miracle to make it appear... I gotta live that every damn day at my "real" job.

I sell shoes at a retail store. We have an area of the floor that we will pull out all the seasonal stock (like boots) and place them out where the customers can help themselves. Anyway, these ladies will walk RIGHT PAST this area, pick up the seasonal shoe they want off a display table and tell me this is what they want. When I point out they walked right past them they always act surprised, like I did magic to make them appear.

In reality though, they saw them out there on display. They just don't want to bother looking for the item themselves.
 
2013-12-31 08:51:17 AM

Kraftwerk Orange: thisispete: There's also a power dynamic there and good comedy is about cocking a snook at the powerful - so you can poke fun at yourself, your own community and those more privileged than you. But if you punch down, not up, it's not going to be well received. This is also why conservative humor is not that successful.

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What "conservative" comedy might look like.


jeff foxworthy is actually a good comic.  or at least he was, i admit i haven't seen any recent material.  he tells funny stories about his family and he has good comic timing.  but his comedy is family-friendly and generally inoffensive, so some people equate that with being bad.  he's not trying to explain anything, he's not pushing an idea, he just likes to tell jokes.  but i like foxworthy's best material almost as much as i like george carlin's.  larry the cable guy, on the other hand, is terrible.
 
2013-12-31 08:54:46 AM

TomD9938: I'm not convinced that Christians in 1975 (or whenever TLOB came out) were any more tolerant than those of today.

If anything, there's fewer of them and they're largely more willing to take a joke.


I woudl agree, there are just more of their loudmouths on TV.

Somacandra: So Palin and the other chaps have already done their part in the area,


Ok buddy. You are right. Palin and the fail are blowong it all otu of porportion.

Muslims as a religious groups are just as willing to take a joke about their faith as all other religions.
 
2013-12-31 09:02:09 AM
They did a bit with this in the Meaning of Life game. In the section where religions are made fun of, they emphasize that they are not making fun of muslims. Repeatedly.
 
2013-12-31 09:03:58 AM

liam76: TomD9938: I'm not convinced that Christians in 1975 (or whenever TLOB came out) were any more tolerant than those of today.

If anything, there's fewer of them and they're largely more willing to take a joke.

I woudl agree, there are just more of their loudmouths on TV.

Somacandra: So Palin and the other chaps have already done their part in the area,

Ok buddy. You are right. Palin and the fail are blowong it all otu of porportion.

Muslims as a religious groups are just as willing to take a joke about their faith as all other religions.


I'm sure Salman Rushdie will be comforted by that.
 
2013-12-31 09:08:58 AM

GungFu: sleeper2995: I was curious if anyone knew anymore about the South Park episodes that got pulled because of showing Muhammad?

No episodes were pulled. Comedy Central did cover up 'Muhammad' (in a big teddy bear costume, iirc) by using a larged black rectangular block to cover the character.
It was a pretty farked up meta-episode with all the censoring of the self-censored bits and the disclaimers about the censoring.

In any case, they had actually showed Muhammad before without any problems years before.


Which, knowing the South Park crew, was probably part of the joke.
 
2013-12-31 09:13:12 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: liam76: TomD9938: I'm not convinced that Christians in 1975 (or whenever TLOB came out) were any more tolerant than those of today.

If anything, there's fewer of them and they're largely more willing to take a joke.

I woudl agree, there are just more of their loudmouths on TV.

Somacandra: So Palin and the other chaps have already done their part in the area,

Ok buddy. You are right. Palin and the fail are blowong it all otu of porportion.

Muslims as a religious groups are just as willing to take a joke about their faith as all other religions.

I'm sure Salman Rushdie will be comforted by that.


Check your sarcasm meter, buddy.
 
2013-12-31 09:26:28 AM
markfara
2013-12-31 08:12:48 AM


TomD9938: I'm not convinced that Christians in 1975 (or whenever TLOB came out) were any more tolerant than those of today.

If anything, there's fewer of them and they're largely more willing to take a joke.

I remember going to see "Life of Brian" in the theater. Despite the "R" rating, the theater's management felt it necessary to place a written announcement at the ticket counter warning that the film might be offensive.

It pissed a LOT of people off, if memory serves. I've since known practicing Catholics, priests included, who cite it as one of their all-time favorite comedies.
So it's exactly like lib-tards here who go full whargarble when an obama joke is told?

Difference between the "christians" is they aren't flying planes into buildings like muslims and liberals(TX IRS building).
 
2013-12-31 09:32:29 AM
And now I lose respect for Palin.

Life of Brian was HILARIOUS, but I can see why Christians would be upset by it. And they were when it came out in the 70's. I saw it more as a slam on religion (and it tropes) in general, and on mid east life at the time, removing the glamor of it.

The Pythons were fearless back in the day, but it's easy to be fearless when you are not subject to actual harm.

It proves the point I made years ago - comedians, liberals, atheists, etc. all have no issue attacking Christianity because it doesn't really fight back, it turns the other cheek.  So like a nerd on the playground, its a continual target for bullies needing lunch money.  I said that if Christians want Hollywood to stop slamming them, well, they gotta sharpen some machetes like the Muslims do.  If Christianity was the threat Islam was, every abortion clinic in the US would look like the Benghazi embassy. I say this being "agnostic".

I could name on one finger the comedians that slam Islam - Trey Parker and Matt Stone, the guys from South Park, who actually DID face violence for slamming Islam and didn't back down - their network did and undermined them.  And Parker and Stone called Comedy Central out on that as well. MacFarlane on Family Guy to an extent, as well.

Robin Williams said this same thing a few years ago, and now Palin reiterates it.  Gutless.
 
2013-12-31 09:41:03 AM

Richard_The_Clown: The scene where Brian is being followed by the zealots and they beg him for food and he points to a juniper bush and they think he has done a miracle to make it appear... I gotta live that every damn day at my "real" job.

I sell shoes at a retail store. We have an area of the floor that we will pull out all the seasonal stock (like boots) and place them out where the customers can help themselves. Anyway, these ladies will walk RIGHT PAST this area, pick up the seasonal shoe they want off a display table and tell me this is what they want. When I point out they walked right past them they always act surprised, like I did magic to make them appear.

In reality though, they saw them out there on display. They just don't want to bother looking for the item themselves.

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2013-12-31 09:42:08 AM

SaltyDonnie: Robin Williams said this same thing a few years ago, and now Palin reiterates it. Gutless


There is a difference between being gutless, and admitting you aren't going to risk your life to do something.

I am some shmoe ont he internet so I can get awayw ith mocking Islam. If I was a public figure? With wife and kids? I would be a lot more careful in what I said.

There is nothing gutless in pointing out the risks are much higher when mocking Islam, in fact many won;t even do that, so I am not going to question his bravery because he won;t cross a line I won't.
 
2013-12-31 09:43:09 AM
I'm sure that someone will be offended by what Palin said and threaten him. "How dare you say we can't take a joke! You must die!"
 
2013-12-31 09:52:45 AM
It's true and Islam should be ashamed of being the backward toothless hillbilly of religions but like all backward toothless hillbillies they are proud of it.
 
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