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(Dayton Daily News)   Tourist stabbed to death in Puerto Rico. The really scary part? Puerto Rico is on track to have 900 homicides this year, out of a population of less than 4 million. The really, really scary part? That's down 10% from last year   (daytondailynews.com) divider line 118
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2013-12-31 09:36:23 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: jim32rr: Cut the cord, time for their Independence Day

Actually, they voted to become a state last time around.  The Democrat president, and the democrat controlled congress, with some help from Spanish hating republicans, were able to crush the peoples wishes, because corporations in Puerto Rico don't want to have to start paying the same wages and benefits to to Puerto Ricans, that they do in the states.  (Territories get special minimum wage laws)  An increase in wages, and federal money, that statehood would have brought would have probably gone a long way towards stabilizing Puerto Ricos economy, and bringing down their crime rate.  Too bad for them, that Obama and Harry Reid are perfectly willing to sell out their political ideology, when it comes between making lobbyist happy, and having to deal with the welfare of Latin people.


Puerto Rico has the same minimum wage as required by federal law ($7.25 per hour). So your argument is shot. Consult with better sources next time.

Guam and the Virgin Islands also follow federal minimum wage law.
 
2013-12-31 09:40:36 AM  

QueenMamaBee: BSABSVR: SearchN: jtown: TheJoe03: assjuice: I am shocked that a 3rd world hellhole is a shiatty place to live.

Like West Virginia?

Can someone please print this and mail it to West Virginia so they know they've been insulted?

Why? Not like they could read it anyways.

Someone could just draw a sad face in dirt with a stick. That should make sense to them

I live about 15 minutes from WV.... I volunteer!


I had family there. In tha winter, it's tha issue of not bein able to git up them thar hills to git to tha postal offices, y'see.
 
2013-12-31 09:40:36 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: jim32rr: Cut the cord, time for their Independence Day

Actually, they voted to become a state last time around.  The Democrat president, and the democrat controlled congress, with some help from Spanish hating republicans, were able to crush the peoples wishes, because corporations in Puerto Rico don't want to have to start paying the same wages and benefits to to Puerto Ricans, that they do in the states.  (Territories get special minimum wage laws)  An increase in wages, and federal money, that statehood would have brought would have probably gone a long way towards stabilizing Puerto Ricos economy, and bringing down their crime rate.  Too bad for them, that Obama and Harry Reid are perfectly willing to sell out their political ideology, when it comes between making lobbyist happy, and having to deal with the welfare of Latin people.


Puerto Ricans are more "Afro" than "Latin".  (might explain the murder rate)
 
2013-12-31 09:40:49 AM  
Love PR.  There twice on business and then took the family on vacation.  Stick to the touristy spots and you are cool.  San Juan Candado has a great vibe.   Also checked out Camuy Caves, Areceibo, El Yunque and did a trail ride.

Our tour guide told us there are 3 languages in Puerto Rico:
1) English
2) Spanish
3) The Spanish pasted onto English that the young people / those who lived away then come back, speak

For a great restaurant, check out the 'Under the Tree' (beside the DoubleTree, across from a SuperMax).  The Pina Colada clun at the Caribe Hilton was nice too.
 
2013-12-31 09:53:53 AM  
I went there on a vacation with my then-girlfriend. It was an awesome place. Great food, great weather, although the architecture was pretty poor, the roads aside from the main highway were bad, and the people drove crazy.

The best restaurant I've ever eaten at is there, too. This hole in the wall place in Dorado called El Ladrillo. Their paellawas to die for and their plantains were awesome.
 
2013-12-31 10:06:17 AM  

2wolves: Indian reservation level poverty.


It is a Section 8 country...
 
2013-12-31 10:27:22 AM  

Fissile: RottenEggs: AbiNormal: Want to have fun? Call a Peurto Rican a filthy Mexican.

/Make sure you got your running shoes on.

Yeah they do enjoy believing that they are superior to Mexicans ,

===============

They are very chauvinistic in how they view themselves compared to other Hispanics.   Funny thing is that most of the Mexicans I know work their asses off, and most PRs don't.


This is like pretty much every immigrant story. If you swam, ran or got in the cargo hold of a boat, you already know the value of hard work. Once you're born here, it's pretty much hit or miss.
 
2013-12-31 10:35:07 AM  

FrancoFile: the_rhino: This way you buy both parties and make it acceptable without disrupting the balance. The other state you could target is Texas but I don't know if we could chop it up or if the population would accept such a division even if it made all the sense in the world. New York is also a possibility cutting off New York city from much of the rest of the state. Either way there are divisions to be had which would be economically sustainable as well as better reflecting the nature of the populations so that lawmaking can take into account the needs of the governed.

Not sure how serious your are being, but it is expressly forbidden in the Constitution (article 4) to create new States out of territory within a current state.

Keep reading.

"Without the consent of the legislature of the states involved."

How else do you explain Maine and Vermont?


There are lots of proposals to break up California so it would certainly be with the consent of the populations complying with the constitution. Recently on Fark it was posted someone is funding an idea to break up California into 6 states.  Six to me is too many in order to give the areas in question a sufficient tax base and population to matter.  Two northern counties (who have no population) approved the idea of reforming the State of Jefferson which almost became a state until World War 2 scuttled the idea.  I don't know how viable Jefferson would be unless it took much of Northern California as there simply are not enough population there and I doubt there is much interest in forming a state with fewer people than Wyoming has.  However because of the few people there and massive difference in lifestyle and needs, I don't know if anyone else in California really cares about those areas so long as there is an agreement to allow the south to steal their water.

Now the coastal/eastern split makes some sense and would create two states that would be in the top 10-15 of states in population that better reflects their various populations. After all the populations and needs of the bay area and LA have little in common with the central valley or inland empire.  It wouldn't be easy and there are tricky issues such as dividing up the massive debt or handling the prison populations of the coastal areas (most prisoners are from the heavily populated coastal cities while most prisons are in the eastern portion).  However, I think the political will could be there to kill California as one state as neither area is satisfied with having their ideas hindered by the progressives/conservatives in much of the state.
 
2013-12-31 11:05:23 AM  

CruiserTwelve: 900 homicides out of a population of 4,000,000? If my maths are correct, that's a rate of 22.5 per 100,000. About half of Detroit's rate.


about 1/8 the rate in Juarez
(3500 murders in a population of 2M)
 
2013-12-31 11:09:32 AM  

Prey4reign: They're killing gringos down there!  Let them kidnap one good-looking blond and Obama'll declare martial law and we go round up the usual suspects.


Shush
I don't need Nancy Grace anywhere within a hundred miles of me
 
2013-12-31 11:20:15 AM  

pushcart: I spent a few weeks in SJ and Caguas this year. The people I met were friendly and hard-working. Lots of poor people though. Crumbling infrastructure too. It's a sad situation.


Crumbling infrastructure? Did the whites move out when the Puerto Ricans moved in?
 
2013-12-31 12:10:36 PM  

johndalek: i'm just trying to figure out how they would pattern the stars on the u.s. flagit works out a-ok with 50. what happens when we add one more.


Keep it at 50.

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before i recognize Missourah.
 
2013-12-31 12:23:36 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: What's more, it's not like Chicago where they can try to blame all of the surrounding regions for their violence problems


What, like the corn fields?
 
2013-12-31 12:40:03 PM  

DB: gnadfly: Every exterior window and door on the island is behind bars - even the ones in the backyards.


That's to protect widows from storm damage. It is a tropical island after all.


Uhm, no. It is to protect the homes from break ins and looting during storms. It is a true statement that every window pretty much everywhere has bars on it. The entire island is run down, even San Juan. The "nice" areas of San Juan are like the "meh" areas here. The water, cuisine, rum, weather, and natural environment are great and most of the people there are pretty friendly. The major problem with Puerto Rico is that the only major economy there is tourism, pharmaceuticals, and to a lesser extent rum/coffee. There are a lot of people on welfare there and those Puerto Ricans who work HATE them with a passion. You will commonly see ghetto project apartments all with big screen tvs and satellite dishes in them. You have people comfortable because they are on a fricking island with basic entertainment needs getting a free-ride so of course they don't produce anything. I have gone there a few times and most recently stayed at the St. Regis, which is a laughable contrast to the rest of the island.
 
2013-12-31 12:46:33 PM  

the_chief: I got stabbed to death once. It sucked.


I got stabbed to death twice!
 
2013-12-31 01:04:33 PM  

Daedalus27: The other state you could target is Texas but I don't know if we could chop it up or if the population would accept such a division even if it made all the sense in the world.


Never happen. They're one of the few states that have kept some semblance of a unified self image over the last 100+ years of federal domination. .

Even their power grid is separate from the rest of the US.

/tho I like your Cali split/PR/DC idea

www.geni.org
 
2013-12-31 03:03:47 PM  

12349876: You don't have the Senate unless you have 60.


Then consider that half the Democrats are corrupt quislings and there is little party discipline.

Daedalus27: There are lots of proposals to break up California so it would certainly be with the consent of the populations complying with the constitution. Recently on Fark it was posted someone is funding an idea to break up California into 6 states. Six to me is too many in order to give the areas in question a sufficient tax base and population to matter.


You have the Minnie Pearl problem; I told my boyfriend we should get married and he said who would want us? None of the six regions want to be in bed with any of the others. The central coast doesn't want to be part of either northern or southern California. You have 'west Oklahoma' aka the southern central valley, which doesn't have much in common with the northern central valley.
 
2013-12-31 11:30:53 PM  

gibbon1: 12349876: You don't have the Senate unless you have 60.

Then consider that half the Democrats are corrupt quislings and there is little party discipline.

Daedalus27: There are lots of proposals to break up California so it would certainly be with the consent of the populations complying with the constitution. Recently on Fark it was posted someone is funding an idea to break up California into 6 states. Six to me is too many in order to give the areas in question a sufficient tax base and population to matter.

You have the Minnie Pearl problem; I told my boyfriend we should get married and he said who would want us? None of the six regions want to be in bed with any of the others. The central coast doesn't want to be part of either northern or southern California. You have 'west Oklahoma' aka the southern central valley, which doesn't have much in common with the northern central valley.



While that is true, don't you think both the northern and central valley would be much happier if representatives from San Francisco and LA residents were not making agriculture and pollution standards?  In some sense there is the devil you know vs the devil you don't effect, but I think most would like to do without those individuals.  At the same time I would think LA and SF residents would like to do away with those who smell like cow shiat from having any voice in the building of their utopia (not that they have much of a voice right now). There would be some issue linking the inland and very south to the central valley, but that provides a stabilizing population and tax base that means they have a voice in Washington instead of being another flyover state.
 
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