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(Talking Points Memo)   Man reaches for his wallet, accidently shoots himself in the butt. I hate when that happens   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 19
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2013-12-30 07:33:26 PM  
3 votes:
If you manage to shoot yourself in the ass by accident, you should not be allowed to carry a weapon as a matter of safety to others. Seriously, if you can't carry a gun without shooting yourself, you can't be trusted around other people.
2013-12-30 09:26:56 PM  
2 votes:

Click Click D'oh: DoctorOfLove: Or don't put one in the chamber. How the hell long does it take you folks to rack the slide?

No firearms advice out of you.  Be quite and go talk about something you know about.

DoctorOfLove: I agree with you, and I can't imagine a real world situation where having to rack the slide would make a difference

- If one of your arms has been injured by being shot or stabbed
- If an attacker has one of your arms pinned to you such as grappling.
- If you have to shoot one handed from a retention position while using your support hand to fend off and attacker or block a weapon.
- If you have to shoot through a pocket holster or holster purse using only one hand.


I'm so glad I don't live in fear.
2013-12-30 09:00:53 PM  
2 votes:
If you read about most civilian (i.e. non-cop) shooting situations that have actually occurred (school shootings being an example, but rare, being present at a store robbery or the victim of a workplace shooting or a home invasion being slightly more common) almost without exception there is plenty of time (i.e. many seconds) to figure out what the hell is  going on, to rack the slide, and aim with both hands.  And if you don't take a few seconds to gauge the situation, you stand a fair chance of blowing the head off your kid who's sneaking in the house at 2 am.  Sorry Timmy, I was operating under the incorrect assumption that we lived in Baghdad, so I killed you.  Sucks to be you.

If you need to fire with one hand with a round in the chamber you have made very bad life choices and are probably already dead.  Car jacking for example.  The dude already has a gun shoved in your ear.  Either put your hands up and get out of the car, or punch it (punch the gas pedal, not the dude with the gun in your ear).  Don't try and shoot him, you will lose.

If you run an all night  liquor store in Detroit, a buzz them in door with a Remington 870 plainly visible under your arm, or well, hmm. move.  Life choices, people.

If you live in a place where you are likely to be already shot in one arm and desperately fumbling for your gun with your remaining good arm and your dying breaths, you need luggage, not guns, because you need to move.

There are two civilian shooting situations for the average american: (a) bang you're dead or (b) bang, someone else is dead, and you have what will seem to be eons of time to figure out what to do.

****

People buy guns for self defense and then, never actually think about the practical realities of self defense.

(a) Your in a liquor store and a dude sticks up the clerk with a gun.  Do you intervene?  (correct answer: absolutely not, for a host of reasons including the cops will shoot you when they get there, since they don't know who held up the store and who the dead guy in front of the clerk is, but you, dumbass, are standing there waving around a gun and everyone else in the store is jibber jabbering hysterically and pointing at you and the dead guy - this scenario has happened).  If you have half a brain in your head you quietly hide, get your gun out in case the bad guy comes after you, and if he doesn't, you quietly put your gun back once the bad guy has left (hopefully concealed) and quietly leave so none of the witnesses point at you and the cops don't kill your dumbass.

(b)  You shoot an actual home invader at 2 am and call 911.  Cops pull up in front of your house.  You run out of the house with your gun in your hand jumping for joy that the cops have arrived.  They of  course misunderstand your tears of joy and blow you away.  Wow, never thought about how difficult it would be to lower the temperature on a home invasion shooting when the police show up.   Maybe I shouldn't run out of the house with a gun, and maybe I shouldn't tell the cops I shot the dude, but I probably should approach the cops with my hands visible and empty, and then, before saying anything stupid to the cops, call my buddy the lawyer, who of course will tell me to completely shut the hell up until he gets there.

Oh, and it turns out the invader was your new drunk neighbor who got the wrong house (true story-cookie cutter condos, easy mistake to make).   Cops and prosecutor are actually kinda pissed you killed your drunk, but entirely harmless neighbor.

But officer, I had a round in the chamber, and he was only 3 feet away, so I was able to kill my drunk harmless neighbor 0.8 seconds faster than I would have been able to otherwise.  In fact, officer, had I taken 0.8 seconds longer and aimed with both hands, I might have had time to recognize my drunk  dumbass neighbor and not killed him.  But we live in Kabul, so you can't be too uncareful.  Oh wait, we live in a condo in Connecticut.  Oh, my bad.

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Oh, and 99% of the cops in the US never fire their guns in anger in their entire careers either, so the whole round in the chamber is irrelevant to 99% of them as well.
2013-12-30 07:40:15 PM  
2 votes:

Primum: Too bad he didn't shoot his testicles off. We need less gun-owners in the USA breeding and spreading their madness to a new generation.

So brave, going to HOME DEPOT in that warzone known as Brighton, MI. Why would a 32-year-old white male who is not a criminal nor police officer need to carry a sidearm?

Need a blankie too for when you go the scawy big-box store? Want mummy to go into the restroom with you to go potty, honey? It's OK...I am here.


You could have simplified your posting by merely stating that you are incapable of rationally discussing the subject of firearms.
2013-12-30 07:02:03 PM  
2 votes:
Too bad he didn't shoot his testicles off. We need less gun-owners in the USA breeding and spreading their madness to a new generation.

So brave, going to HOME DEPOT in that warzone known as Brighton, MI. Why would a 32-year-old white male who is not a criminal nor police officer need to carry a sidearm?

Need a blankie too for when you go the scawy big-box store? Want mummy to go into the restroom with you to go potty, honey? It's OK...I am here.
2013-12-30 06:52:54 PM  
2 votes:
Look, dipshiat.  It's called a trigger block:

i.imgur.com

It wedges between the trigger and the back of the guard.  You can remove it in about .5 of a second if you feel you need to discharge your weapon.  I never, ever, EVER carried my Glock unholstered without a trigger block in place.  It's even a pro-active defense.  If someone grabs your gun, and they don't know it's there, they won't be able to farking shoot you until they figure out how to pop it out.

If you carry an unholstered Glock, with one in the chamber, you're a farking idiot not to have one of these in place.  It does NOTHING to decrease your safety, and a shiat ton to increase it.
2013-12-31 06:19:02 AM  
1 votes:
Yet another example of a gun owner being their own worst enemy...
2013-12-31 01:27:35 AM  
1 votes:

Thingster: Dimensio: demaL-demaL-yeH: Dimensio: Click Click D'oh: Bane of Broone:I'm so glad I don't live in fear.

Ah yes, that tired old tripe.  If one knows how to properly use a firearm, it's clearly because they live in fear.  Glad you could chime in with something productive.

People who carry firearms in public are paranoid sociopaths. They are paranoid because violent crime with random victims never happens anywhere, ever, and they are sociopaths because they have decided that their lives are more important than those of violent criminals.

Go change your underoos. You've already shown your true color.
/Hint: It's yellow.
//Like the piddle you're standing in.

I am already aware that you are terrified of citizens legally carrying firearms in public, and that you project your fear onto those who do not actually share it.

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/on mobile.


Calling an "Oh, SNAP!" when somebody who walks around armed in public due to mumble-mumble unspecifiable threat says that somebody who does not walk around armed in public is  afraid and projecting is irremediably pants-on-fire-on-head potato.
/Just how do you manage to get dressed in the morn... Oh. Right. Already covered that.
//Seriously? The guy who isn't armed is the one who's walking around afraid? Just how stup... Never mind.
2013-12-30 09:43:01 PM  
1 votes:
There is no excuse for having a cocked weapon at any time unless you have it positioned to fire.
I hate responsible gun owners suffering the stupidity of people like this.

He created a dangerous environment and should have been charged for it.
2013-12-30 09:08:47 PM  
1 votes:

Farkage: capn' fun: I did think, Tackleberry. Which is why I leave my 1911, Glock, and other guns where they belong-at home. Locked up. Because I'm a grown-ass man who can go to a movie or buy some drywall mud without worrying about being shot at. Is it possible something could happen? Yes. Is it probable? Not even close. I'd be more likely to get hit by a car than a bullet, yet I still muster the courage to walk across the street without my mom holding my hand. And after many, many hours of range time to observe them, I'd be more worried about being hit accidentally by your average CC permit holder than a nut job or a robber. A day in class, the ability to shoot a softball sized group at 9-20 feet under controlled conditions, and they are suddenly transformed into "good guys with guns".

"Did he think he was going to run into..." was the part of your statement I was responding to, and was exactly what you were getting at. Nobody thinks anything is going to happen, yet it sometimes does, doesn't it? You know, like when you're watching a farking movie.
I have a ccw myself and almost never carry. As in, once in the past year. Nice to see you are capable of telling others what they should do in circumstances completely unknown to you. How is the view from your soapbox anyway?


I'm not telling you what to do. Do as you please. But don't think that walking around with a gun crammed into your pants makes you somebody the rest of us want to have to mingle with let alone feel assured by, even those of us who understand and own guns, ourselves. Is it your right to do so? Absolutely. Is it my right to think it's a dumb idea and an accident/tragedy waiting to happen? Absolutely as well.
2013-12-30 08:48:02 PM  
1 votes:
I did think, Tackleberry. Which is why I leave my 1911, Glock, and other guns where they belong-at home. Locked up. Because I'm a grown-ass man who can go to a movie or buy some drywall mud without worrying about being shot at. Is it possible something could happen? Yes. Is it probable? Not even close. I'd be more likely to get hit by a car than a bullet, yet I still muster the courage to walk across the street without my mom holding my hand. And after many, many hours of range time to observe them, I'd be more worried about being hit accidentally by your average CC permit holder than a nut job or a robber. A day in class, the ability to shoot a softball sized group at 9-20 feet under controlled conditions, and they are suddenly transformed into "good guys with guns".
2013-12-30 08:27:48 PM  
1 votes:
Ah, another "one in the pipe" accident. Glad he was able to get off a round so quickly-his ass was coming straight at him. He had choice but to stand his ground in a tactical situation. And who the fark needs a .40 to go shopping for home supplies? Did he think he was going to run into anyone other than suburban home owners and undocumented construction workers?
2013-12-30 07:57:30 PM  
1 votes:

Rozinante: If you carry an unholstered Glock, with one in the chamber, you're a farking idiot not to have one of these in place.  It does NOTHING to decrease your safety, and a shiat ton to increase it.

Buy a gun with a safety?


Does a round really need to be in the chamber?  Really?  You expect to be ambushed so quickly that you cant rack a round as you point it to aim?    What if aliens show up?
2013-12-30 07:54:06 PM  
1 votes:
This cock needs a $10,000 citation for negligent public discharge.
2013-12-30 07:13:39 PM  
1 votes:

dahmers love zombie: Look, dipshiat.  It's called a trigger block:

[i.imgur.com image 304x200]

It wedges between the trigger and the back of the guard.  You can remove it in about .5 of a second if you feel you need to discharge your weapon.  I never, ever, EVER carried my Glock unholstered without a trigger block in place.  It's even a pro-active defense.  If someone grabs your gun, and they don't know it's there, they won't be able to farking shoot you until they figure out how to pop it out.

If you carry an unholstered Glock, with one in the chamber, you're a farking idiot not to have one of these in place.  It does NOTHING to decrease your safety, and a shiat ton to increase it.


Buy a gun with a safety?
2013-12-30 07:12:23 PM  
1 votes:
"Police said no citations were issued and it's unlikely that charges will be filed. " So, I'm guessing that means his permit is still valid? That is farked. A negligent discharge should force an immediate suspension of his license until he can get before a judge and prove why he should be allowed to keep it. Wouldn't be opposed to a one and done rule on negligent discharges, either. Idiot.
2013-12-30 06:59:31 PM  
1 votes:
Attention people who have guns but shouldn't: If you're going to carry a handgun with a round in the chamber, please do us all a favor and stick it in the FRONT of your jeans, not the back.

We don't want you reproducing.

Love, Gun Owners Everywhere.
2013-12-30 06:58:23 PM  
1 votes:
"Thought it was his wallet", yeah, sure. Dumbass was bored and playing with his toy.
2013-12-30 06:17:26 PM  
1 votes:
Police said no citations were issued and it's unlikely that charges will be filed.

Being that big of a dumbass should at least involve a citation.
 
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