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2013-12-30 10:02:00 PM  

steamingpile: I would say very few atheists have interactions with religious people as much since most people never mention religion and choose to socialize at other functions.


Hold on, I have yet another pair of Christians knocking on my door to tell me how horrible I am for not being just like them. BRB.
 
2013-12-30 10:03:33 PM  

steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: Sign my ass up, man.  Stanhope should hang out here on Fark and see me get in trouble with the religitards on a weekly basis.

Problem is he's 100% wrong, its not the farking 60-70s any longer, nobody gives a shiat about your religious preferences.

And I bet you argue with more people that just like to tweak you but don't give a shiat about religion or your made up slights in the name of religion.

People like this remind of the reddit atheists who make up stories of their Darwin fish being ripped off by minivans that are covered in religious bumper stickers when it was just someone they cut off in traffic.

Nobody gives a shiat what you do or don't believe, get over yourselves and quit acting like your persecuted.

Ummmm.. actually, people do still care.  Lots.  If you don't think so, then think of how often openly atheist politicians get elected.  Religion is seen as an instant character reference, while atheism is seen as an admission of Randian objectivist immorality.  Sad, but true.

No its not, a majority of politicians are not religious at all and people no longer associate morality with religion. Sorry to burst your bubble but its just not true.

And atheists don't get elected because most are just agnostic rather than atheist and I know of more than one of those in office. Agnostics are more open minded than atheists because they are willing to accept that there is an unknown. Atheists seem to go out of their way to scream at anyone that doubts god doesn't exist.

And yet you griped upthread about people painting Christians with a broad brush.  Way to go.

I have quite a few family members that are atheist and all are pricks even though none of the religious side gives them grief. They act all put out by them even though they are pleasant to them and not preachy, they act shiatty because my aunt dared to have her crucifix out when they came to her house for a family fu ...

So basically what you're saying is that YOUR broad generalizations are okay.

I have had hundreds of interactions with atheists and all save one was confrontational starting on their end and keep in mind I'm not even christian, I'm agnostic.

I would say very few atheists have interactions with religious people as much since most people never mention religion and choose to socialize at other functions.

My point is there are a lot more religious than atheists and if its not oppressive then there is no reason to raise a stink. Most of these people biatch about shiat thats not oppressive at all.

Also this girls smug response is what makes her coonty, like she's acted that way all the time just to piss people off. Its what I've come to expect from closed minded atheists.


How about christians codifying their hate into law just because people that don't follow their religion may be doing something they don't like? Is that prickish enough to be considered oppression?

When I lived in Alabama, I would say 90% of the time, at least, when you met a new person their first two questions to you were "what football team do you support?" quickly followed by "what church do you go to?" To say that's not people mentioning religion is to have a highly blinded view of your average clay....
 
2013-12-30 10:09:14 PM  

hardinparamedic: We shall drink deeply of the bourbon, scotch and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

Then we shall find, and beat the asses of the nonbelievers!

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Always nice to meet another Alvian.
 
2013-12-30 10:16:51 PM  
How unfair to all of the other atheists living there.
 
2013-12-30 10:28:19 PM  
I felt bad for her being put on the spot, and I was proud of her for being straight up about not believing.  I'm glad she got the money.

But the comedian (never heard of him before) still sounds like a major asshole.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Ummmm.. actually, people do still care. Lots. If you don't think so, then think of how often openly atheist politicians get elected. Religion is seen as an instant character reference, while atheism is seen as an admission of Randian objectivist immorality. Sad, but true.


I live in Texas.  Technically, based on the Texas Constitution, I can't run for office.  If it were allowed, I'm sure that running openly as an atheist would cost a lot of votes, but the bottom line, is that the religious folks have outlawed it.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CN/htm/CN.1.htm

Sec. 4. RELIGIOUS TESTS. No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

steamingpile: Also this girls smug response is what makes her coonty, like she's acted that way all the time just to piss people off. Its what I've come to expect from closed minded atheists.

 

She didn't bring it up, Wolf Blitzer did.  And the first time he asked her, she tried not answering.  He wasn't willing to let it go.  The fact that you think that makes her a coont says something about you.
 
2013-12-30 10:29:57 PM  
*shrug* OK.

You're not bad because you're an atheist. You're bad because you're an asshole.
 
2013-12-30 10:42:44 PM  
I really don't think the left needs their own Rush Limbaugh, and anyway this guy is libertarian not liberal.

Rush loves to say things, not because they are intelligent or good ideas, but "just to piss off the liberals". However, liberals don't get pissed off because they don't listen to him. Instead you have his devoted ditto heads repeating what he says, thinking that makes them cool and edgy.
 
2013-12-30 10:48:37 PM  

nekom: what_now: You know, I do understand how a deeply upset and traumatized person can react by "thanking God" for saving them, but it's always annoyed me when athletes talk about how "God" helped them score a touchdown/goal/homerun.

Millions of people in slavery, poverty and despair, but God's gonna focus on your batting average?

And they never do it in reverse.  "That sure touchdown you dropped has got to have you kicking yourself!"  "Yeah, farking Jesus screwed me up."
/not my joke, some comedian I thibj


Since no one has bothered giving credit yet, here it is:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXV0VKX2m6Q
 
2013-12-30 10:55:04 PM  
If I've got millions of children who have chosen to be on good terms with me, why should I give a fark about all you who don't visit, or go so far as to denounce me? You ain't my kids. FARK YOU!

-God.

Also, way to show it's more about your anger at god than your caring for people, Stanhope.
 
2013-12-30 10:57:47 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: bugmn99: Of course, God will then kill Harold and hurt everyone he loves, as per protocol.

God got around to smiting evil, heathen Harold at 84.


I saw Harold at a party
Trouzy threw Late one night.
I said, "hey man,
Do you remember me?"
He said, "O' course
I do Snapdad and
Let me tell ya right
'Bout now I'm lit
Up like an ol' Christmas tree."
Hey bro you know I'd
Like to thank you once again for let'n me
Hang with ya' all across the bay.
When I look back at that night I get me a
Warm spot across my heart." Then he shook my hand,
And walked away.
That's the last I seen of Harold.
 
2013-12-30 11:01:36 PM  

mediablitz: He's exactly right. What kind of sicko thanks "God" for killing his neighbors? Shouldn't the proper answer be "God is an asshole for killing all these people and destroying all these lives. Why would I thank him?".


You know, if I pull someone out of a burning car, but am unable to save others trapped inside, should that person spend most of their time blaming me for killing the other passengers?

The idea is that god drives the positive force. It's a way to make life about something larger than oneself. It doesn't always work for one reason: people suck.
 
2013-12-30 11:02:27 PM  

Lee451: mediablitz: He's exactly right. What kind of sicko thanks "God" for killing his neighbors? Shouldn't the proper answer be "God is an asshole for killing all these people and destroying all these lives. Why would I thank him?".

Do you honestly believe that is how the survivors feel? They were grateful that they had survived. But never allow the facts to get in your way.

/Atheists tend to be a petty, miserable group


Why not? You do it all the time.
 
2013-12-30 11:06:44 PM  

grumpfuff: Lee451: mediablitz: He's exactly right. What kind of sicko thanks "God" for killing his neighbors? Shouldn't the proper answer be "God is an asshole for killing all these people and destroying all these lives. Why would I thank him?".

Do you honestly believe that is how the survivors feel? They were grateful that they had survived. But never allow the facts to get in your way.

/Atheists tend to be a petty, miserable group

Why not? You do it all the time.


A: Holding fact as standard means not abandoning them when an opportunity to be a dick presents itself, but requires eschewing rational thought.
 
2013-12-30 11:14:56 PM  
yeah, just because i was taught it was polite, i usually say "bless you" if somebody near me sneezes.
and yeah, sometimes it is an asshole atheist, who then needs to point out that they don't believe in god, as if i gave a flying fook.
so i just tell them to fark off and die in a fire.
 
2013-12-30 11:19:15 PM  

truthseeker2083: steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: Sign my ass up, man.  Stanhope should hang out here on Fark and see me get in trouble with the religitards on a weekly basis.

Problem is he's 100% wrong, its not the farking 60-70s any longer, nobody gives a shiat about your religious preferences.

And I bet you argue with more people that just like to tweak you but don't give a shiat about religion or your made up slights in the name of religion.

People like this remind of the reddit atheists who make up stories of their Darwin fish being ripped off by minivans that are covered in religious bumper stickers when it was just someone they cut off in traffic.

Nobody gives a shiat what you do or don't believe, get over yourselves and quit acting like your persecuted.

Ummmm.. actually, people do still care.  Lots.  If you don't think so, then think of how often openly atheist politicians get elected.  Religion is seen as an instant character reference, while atheism is seen as an admission of Randian objectivist immorality.  Sad, but true.

No its not, a majority of politicians are not religious at all and people no longer associate morality with religion. Sorry to burst your bubble but its just not true.

And atheists don't get elected because most are just agnostic rather than atheist and I know of more than one of those in office. Agnostics are more open minded than atheists because they are willing to accept that there is an unknown. Atheists seem to go out of their way to scream at anyone that doubts god doesn't exist.

And yet you griped upthread about people painting Christians with a broad brush.  Way to go.

I have quite a few family members that are atheist and all are pricks even though none of the religious side gives them grief. They act all put out by them even though they are pleasant to them and not preachy, they act shiatty because my aunt dared to have her crucifix out when they came to her house for a family fu ...

So basically what you're saying is that YOUR broad generalizations are okay.

I have had hundreds of interactions with atheists and all save one was confrontational starting on their end and keep in mind I'm not even christian, I'm agnostic.

I would say very few atheists have interactions with religious people as much since most people never mention religion and choose to socialize at other functions.

My point is there are a lot more religious than atheists and if its not oppressive then there is no reason to raise a stink. Most of these people biatch about shiat thats not oppressive at all.

Also this girls smug response is what makes her coonty, like she's acted that way all the time just to piss people off. Its what I've come to expect from closed minded atheists.

How about christians codifying their hate into law just because people that don't follow their religion may be doing something they don't like? Is that prickish enough to be considered oppression?

When I lived in Alabama, I would say 90% of the time, at least, when you met a new person their first two questions to you were "what football team do you support?" quickly followed by "what church do you go to?" To say that's not people mentioning religion is to have a highly blinded view of your average clay....


Funny I have lived in the deep south my whole life and have NEVER been asked where I attend church, even by girls families I dated when I was younger and single.

So again I call bullshiat on asking what church, what college you support I can understand since that's more important than religion in the south.
 
2013-12-30 11:22:07 PM  

JuggleGeek: I felt bad for her being put on the spot, and I was proud of her for being straight up about not believing.  I'm glad she got the money.

But the comedian (never heard of him before) still sounds like a major asshole.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Ummmm.. actually, people do still care. Lots. If you don't think so, then think of how often openly atheist politicians get elected. Religion is seen as an instant character reference, while atheism is seen as an admission of Randian objectivist immorality. Sad, but true.

I live in Texas.  Technically, based on the Texas Constitution, I can't run for office.  If it were allowed, I'm sure that running openly as an atheist would cost a lot of votes, but the bottom line, is that the religious folks have outlawed it.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CN/htm/CN.1.htm

Sec. 4. RELIGIOUS TESTS. No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

steamingpile: Also this girls smug response is what makes her coonty, like she's acted that way all the time just to piss people off. Its what I've come to expect from closed minded atheists.
 

She didn't bring it up, Wolf Blitzer did.  And the first time he asked her, she tried not answering.  He wasn't willing to let it go.  The fact that you think that makes her a coont says something about you.


Yes which is why I said response, not her question, its like she was insulted to even be asked.

Drop the smugness, it does nothing for the cause, provide rational reasoning without screaming or yelling and let it go if they choose to have faith.

The only religious issues that have been passed in the past have been to display the 10 commandments or manger scene. Who the hell cares....let it go.
 
2013-12-30 11:32:24 PM  

steamingpile: truthseeker2083: steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: Sign my ass up, man.  Stanhope should hang out here on Fark and see me get in trouble with the religitards on a weekly basis.

Problem is he's 100% wrong, its not the farking 60-70s any longer, nobody gives a shiat about your religious preferences.

And I bet you argue with more people that just like to tweak you but don't give a shiat about religion or your made up slights in the name of religion.

People like this remind of the reddit atheists who make up stories of their Darwin fish being ripped off by minivans that are covered in religious bumper stickers when it was just someone they cut off in traffic.

Nobody gives a shiat what you do or don't believe, get over yourselves and quit acting like your persecuted.

Ummmm.. actually, people do still care.  Lots.  If you don't think so, then think of how often openly atheist politicians get elected.  Religion is seen as an instant character reference, while atheism is seen as an admission of Randian objectivist immorality.  Sad, but true.

No its not, a majority of politicians are not religious at all and people no longer associate morality with religion. Sorry to burst your bubble but its just not true.

And atheists don't get elected because most are just agnostic rather than atheist and I know of more than one of those in office. Agnostics are more open minded than atheists because they are willing to accept that there is an unknown. Atheists seem to go out of their way to scream at anyone that doubts god doesn't exist.

And yet you griped upthread about people painting Christians with a broad brush.  Way to go.

I have quite a few family members that are atheist and all are pricks even though none of the religious side gives them grief. They act all put out by them even though they are pleasant to them and not preachy, they act shiatty because my aunt dared to have her crucifix out when they came to her house for a family fu ...

So basically what you're saying is that YOUR broad generalizations are okay.

I have had hundreds of interactions with atheists and all save one was confrontational starting on their end and keep in mind I'm not even christian, I'm agnostic.

I would say very few atheists have interactions with religious people as much since most people never mention religion and choose to socialize at other functions.

My point is there are a lot more religious than atheists and if its not oppressive then there is no reason to raise a stink. Most of these people biatch about shiat thats not oppressive at all.

Also this girls smug response is what makes her coonty, like she's acted that way all the time just to piss people off. Its what I've come to expect from closed minded atheists.

How about christians codifying their hate into law just because people that don't follow their religion may be doing something they don't like? Is that prickish enough to be considered oppression?

When I lived in Alabama, I would say 90% of the time, at least, when you met a new person their first two questions to you were "what football team do you support?" quickly followed by "what church do you go to?" To say that's not people mentioning religion is to have a highly blinded view of your average clay....

Funny I have lived in the deep south my whole life and have NEVER been asked where I attend church, even by girls families I dated when I was younger and single.

So again I call bullshiat on asking what church, what college you support I can understand since that's more important than religion in the south.


And I call bullshiat on you never having been asked that. Idiots in the south live on knowing which sky club you belong to.
 
2013-12-30 11:34:18 PM  

Popular Opinion: yeah, just because i was taught it was polite, i usually say "bless you" if somebody near me sneezes.
and yeah, sometimes it is an asshole atheist, who then needs to point out that they don't believe in god, as if i gave a flying fook.
so i just tell them to fark off and die in a fire.


HURRDY HURRDY HURR DURR HURR
 
2013-12-30 11:34:59 PM  

steamingpile: truthseeker2083: steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Phoenix87ta: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: steamingpile: Benevolent Misanthrope: Sign my ass up, man.  Stanhope should hang out here on Fark and see me get in trouble with the religitards on a weekly basis.

Problem is he's 100% wrong, its not the farking 60-70s any longer, nobody gives a shiat about your religious preferences.

And I bet you argue with more people that just like to tweak you but don't give a shiat about religion or your made up slights in the name of religion.

People like this remind of the reddit atheists who make up stories of their Darwin fish being ripped off by minivans that are covered in religious bumper stickers when it was just someone they cut off in traffic.

Nobody gives a shiat what you do or don't believe, get over yourselves and quit acting like your persecuted.

Ummmm.. actually, people do still care.  Lots.  If you don't think so, then think of how often openly atheist politicians get elected.  Religion is seen as an instant character reference, while atheism is seen as an admission of Randian objectivist immorality.  Sad, but true.

No its not, a majority of politicians are not religious at all and people no longer associate morality with religion. Sorry to burst your bubble but its just not true.

And atheists don't get elected because most are just agnostic rather than atheist and I know of more than one of those in office. Agnostics are more open minded than atheists because they are willing to accept that there is an unknown. Atheists seem to go out of their way to scream at anyone that doubts god doesn't exist.

And yet you griped upthread about people painting Christians with a broad brush.  Way to go.

I have quite a few family members that are atheist and all are pricks even though none of the religious side gives them grief. They act all put out by them even though they are pleasant to them and not preachy, they act shiatty because my aunt dared to have her crucifix out when they came to her house for a family fu ...

So basically what you're saying is that YOUR broad generalizations are okay.

I have had hundreds of interactions with atheists and all save one was confrontational starting on their end and keep in mind I'm not even christian, I'm agnostic.

I would say very few atheists have interactions with religious people as much since most people never mention religion and choose to socialize at other functions.

My point is there are a lot more religious than atheists and if its not oppressive then there is no reason to raise a stink. Most of these people biatch about shiat thats not oppressive at all.

Also this girls smug response is what makes her coonty, like she's acted that way all the time just to piss people off. Its what I've come to expect from closed minded atheists.

How about christians codifying their hate into law just because people that don't follow their religion may be doing something they don't like? Is that prickish enough to be considered oppression?

When I lived in Alabama, I would say 90% of the time, at least, when you met a new person their first two questions to you were "what football team do you support?" quickly followed by "what church do you go to?" To say that's not people mentioning religion is to have a highly blinded view of your average clay....

Funny I have lived in the deep south my whole life and have NEVER been asked where I attend church, even by girls families I dated when I was younger and single.

So again I call bullshiat on asking what church, what college you support I can understand since that's more important than religion in the south.


And again, what say you on christians enshrining their hate into law? Where is the gay atheist's freedom of his religious beliefs (or lack thereof) to marry the man of his choice? How prickish is that in the oppressive scheme of things?
 
2013-12-30 11:38:24 PM  

whidbey: Popular Opinion: yeah, just because i was taught it was polite, i usually say "bless you" if somebody near me sneezes.
and yeah, sometimes it is an asshole atheist, who then needs to point out that they don't believe in god, as if i gave a flying fook.
so i just tell them to fark off and die in a fire.

HURRDY HURRDY HURR DURR HURR


well spoken

for you
 
2013-12-30 11:46:36 PM  

steamingpile: JuggleGeek: I felt bad for her being put on the spot, and I was proud of her for being straight up about not believing.  I'm glad she got the money.

But the comedian (never heard of him before) still sounds like a major asshole.

Benevolent Misanthrope: Ummmm.. actually, people do still care. Lots. If you don't think so, then think of how often openly atheist politicians get elected. Religion is seen as an instant character reference, while atheism is seen as an admission of Randian objectivist immorality. Sad, but true.

I live in Texas.  Technically, based on the Texas Constitution, I can't run for office.  If it were allowed, I'm sure that running openly as an atheist would cost a lot of votes, but the bottom line, is that the religious folks have outlawed it.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/CN/htm/CN.1.htm

Sec. 4. RELIGIOUS TESTS. No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

steamingpile: Also this girls smug response is what makes her coonty, like she's acted that way all the time just to piss people off. Its what I've come to expect from closed minded atheists.
 

She didn't bring it up, Wolf Blitzer did.  And the first time he asked her, she tried not answering.  He wasn't willing to let it go.  The fact that you think that makes her a coont says something about you.

Yes which is why I said response, not her question, its like she was insulted to even be asked.

Drop the smugness, it does nothing for the cause, provide rational reasoning without screaming or yelling and let it go if they choose to have faith.

The only religious issues that have been passed in the past have been to display the 10 commandments or manger scene. Who the hell cares....let it go.


How is her response smug? You're really farking sensitive to this shiat. Why should anyone give up the fight against this incessant need to post the farking ten commandments in every goddamn building of our court system along with the occasional school thrown in for good measure? I wonder if they'd mind the Yajnavalkya Smriti or similar posted alongside them.
 
2013-12-30 11:57:13 PM  

s2s2s2: If I've got millions of children who have chosen to be on good terms with me, why should I give a fark about all you who don't visit, or go so far as to denounce me? You ain't my kids. FARK YOU!

-God.

Also, way to show it's more about your anger at god than your caring for people, Stanhope.


For the 834,727 time, Atheists (like me) are not "angry at God."  We don't consider him...we live without a belief and a faith in the divine. Please take my word for this and stop thinking otherwise.
 
2013-12-30 11:57:16 PM  
Beliefs are a funny thing. For some reason they always direct you to open you wallet.
 
2013-12-31 12:00:07 AM  

SurfaceTension: s2s2s2: If I've got millions of children who have chosen to be on good terms with me, why should I give a fark about all you who don't visit, or go so far as to denounce me? You ain't my kids. FARK YOU!

-God.

Also, way to show it's more about your anger at god than your caring for people, Stanhope.

For the 834,727 time, Atheists (like me) are not "angry at God."  We don't consider him...we live without a belief and a faith in the divine. Please take my word for this and stop thinking otherwise.


Some religious people may be completely surprised at how little atheists actually think about god. Also, the lack of emotion regarding god or gods of any stripe.
 
2013-12-31 12:06:06 AM  
I'm a believer in God, in a very abstract and tangential way..

No problem, in what that lady said, or even the things that bill maher says about religion. God bless em, it's a free country..

Doug Stanhope comes off as an unfunny asshole, in this matter, and pretty much every other time he talks about religion. "I hope her neighbors are eating off FEMA trucks when she gets the check"..
congratulations, there a line between being irreverent, and just being a mean spirited asshole, and you've crossed it...

Ricki Gervais too, "I'm happy and rich and nothing happens when you die", "religion is stupid, and I'm smarter than you because I don't have one" -- you can only tweet variations on these themes so many times before it becomes incredibly tiresome.
 
2013-12-31 12:07:31 AM  

truthseeker2083: And I call bullshiat on you never having been asked that. Idiots in the south live on knowing which sky club you belong to.


Not looking to insert myself into a pissing match here but I have lived in LA, FL, NC, and SC and have never been asked which church I belonged to...by anyone, ever...to the best of my recollection.  I have however been invited to attend church, often.  It has been enlightening (so to speak) to experience many different Christian flavors.  I've decided that the religion that fits me best is the Church of Al's Hat...live and let live, do unto others as you have them do unto you, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, why can't we all get along, etc...
 
2013-12-31 12:10:39 AM  

truthseeker2083: And I call bullshiat on you never having been asked that. Idiots in the south live on knowing which sky club you belong to.


It depends. The urban areas vs. rural areas are different stories. In the rural areas, they love to get into your business much more than in the big cities.
 
2013-12-31 12:14:04 AM  

dforkus: Ricki Gervais too, "I'm happy and rich and nothing happens when you die", "religion is stupid, and I'm smarter than you because I don't have one" -- you can only tweet variations on these themes so many times before it becomes incredibly tiresome.


Hold on, I have a couple more missionaries knocking on my door to tell me what a piece of shiat I am without Jesus.
 
2013-12-31 12:15:38 AM  

SurfaceTension: s2s2s2: If I've got millions of children who have chosen to be on good terms with me, why should I give a fark about all you who don't visit, or go so far as to denounce me? You ain't my kids. FARK YOU!

-God.

Also, way to show it's more about your anger at god than your caring for people, Stanhope.

For the 834,727 time, Atheists (like me) are not "angry at God."  We don't consider him...we live without a belief and a faith in the divine. Please take my word for this and stop thinking otherwise.


Are you like, the pope of the atheists?
 
2013-12-31 12:16:17 AM  

dforkus: I'm a believer in God, in a very abstract and tangential way..

No problem, in what that lady said, or even the things that bill maher says about religion. God bless em, it's a free country..

Doug Stanhope comes off as an unfunny asshole, in this matter, and pretty much every other time he talks about religion. "I hope her neighbors are eating off FEMA trucks when she gets the check"..
congratulations, there a line between being irreverent, and just being a mean spirited asshole, and you've crossed it...

Ricki Gervais too, "I'm happy and rich and nothing happens when you die", "religion is stupid, and I'm smarter than you because I don't have one" -- you can only tweet variations on these themes so many times before it becomes incredibly tiresome.


Amen and amen.
 
2013-12-31 12:22:27 AM  

s2s2s2: SurfaceTension: s2s2s2: If I've got millions of children who have chosen to be on good terms with me, why should I give a fark about all you who don't visit, or go so far as to denounce me? You ain't my kids. FARK YOU!

-God.

Also, way to show it's more about your anger at god than your caring for people, Stanhope.

For the 834,727 time, Atheists (like me) are not "angry at God."  We don't consider him...we live without a belief and a faith in the divine. Please take my word for this and stop thinking otherwise.

Are you like, the pope of the atheists?


Yeah.

It's much more accurate to say that people flock to religion because they're pissed that they've figured out they're just bio-chemical reactions, no more special than bubbling soda and vinegar, that will eventually play out in an indifferent universe. You're all just angry at nature.
 
2013-12-31 12:27:02 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: dforkus: Ricki Gervais too, "I'm happy and rich and nothing happens when you die", "religion is stupid, and I'm smarter than you because I don't have one" -- you can only tweet variations on these themes so many times before it becomes incredibly tiresome.

Hold on, I have a couple more missionaries knocking on my door to tell me what a piece of shiat I am without Jesus.


they really say that?
i've heard a few schpeels,but none were rude, besides perhaps the wrong assumption that they were better read on the subject.
 
2013-12-31 12:37:17 AM  

Popular Opinion: they really say that?
i've heard a few schpeels,but none were rude, besides perhaps the wrong assumption that they were better read on the subject.


It's rude just to knock on a stranger's door because you think you understand the universe better than anyone who isn't part of your congregation, and you feel the need to enlighten them to your delusion in order to save them from themselves.

It's exactly the same as knocking on their door and saying, "Hi. I don't know you, but I'm smarter and better than you are, and so smug about it that I'll spend all day going door-to-door telling people how much happier and enlightened I am than they are, even though I've never before had conversations with any of them and don't know anything about them."

And people complain about a few celebrity tweets that they can ignore?
 
2013-12-31 12:38:17 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: s2s2s2: SurfaceTension: s2s2s2: If I've got millions of children who have chosen to be on good terms with me, why should I give a fark about all you who don't visit, or go so far as to denounce me? You ain't my kids. FARK YOU!

-God.

Also, way to show it's more about your anger at god than your caring for people, Stanhope.

For the 834,727 time, Atheists (like me) are not "angry at God."  We don't consider him...we live without a belief and a faith in the divine. Please take my word for this and stop thinking otherwise.

Are you like, the pope of the atheists?

Yeah.

It's much more accurate to say that people flock to religion because they're pissed that they've figured out they're just bio-chemical reactions, no more special than bubbling soda and vinegar, that will eventually play out in an indifferent universe. You're all just angry at nature.


in my experience, people can get a range of things out of belonging to a church.
comfort, community, camaraderie...not things necessarily tied to god or faith.
some are probably just lonely.
some like guidelines and rules and structure.

i don't think it is fair to bash everyone because 'how smart can you be if you believe god?"....considering the good things i have seen happen when a community gets together to help others.

of course community doesn't have to be a congregation, but it seems people hardly even know their neighbors anymore compared to when i was growing up.
 
2013-12-31 12:44:19 AM  

TheWhoppah: Lenny_da_Hog: The woman excitedly looked each person in the face saying "Thank Jesus! Thank Jesus!" over and over again while they waited for emergency services to show up. She never thanked Harold.

Harold is the name of her god.  She prays like this: "Our Father which art in heaven, Harold be thy name."


"Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be thy name."
 
2013-12-31 12:45:20 AM  
Well, fark me: I just repeated you instead of writing what I'd intended.

Dumbass.

"Hark the Harold angels sing...."

/going to sleep now
 
2013-12-31 12:45:49 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Popular Opinion: they really say that?
i've heard a few schpeels,but none were rude, besides perhaps the wrong assumption that they were better read on the subject.

It's rude just to knock on a stranger's door because you think you understand the universe better than anyone who isn't part of your congregation, and you feel the need to enlighten them to your delusion in order to save them from themselves.

It's exactly the same as knocking on their door and saying, "Hi. I don't knowt you, but I'm smarter and better than you are, and so smug about it that I'll spend all day going door-to-door telling people how much happier and enlightened I am than they are, even though I've never before had conversations with any of them and don't know anything about them."

And people complain about a few celebrity tweets that they can ignore?


haha. i like ricky gervais. ghost town was great. i get tired of his godless crap too, but not annoyed enough to make a dealio out of it, and i don't even disagree with him, i just think what others believe shouldn't be any of his concern.

as for those numbnuts knocking on your door and bothering you, they believe they were instructed by god to "spread the word" and it is not (i believe) an attempt to belittle you or anyone. they actually believe they might help somebody go to heaven and they don't care if they get sworn at, door slammed, kicked and spit at...they will keep trying to save somebody.
while equally annoyed, i try to take this into consideration when i tell them "thank you, no."
 
2013-12-31 12:47:28 AM  

Popular Opinion: of course community doesn't have to be a congregation, but it seems people hardly even know their neighbors anymore compared to when i was growing up.


Right. You can get that sense of belonging out of any other gang... Crips, Bloods, Outlaws, Hell's Angels, Baptists, Methodists....

But I was really just ridiculing any theists who think atheists are really theists who don't like to eat their vegetables or something.
 
2013-12-31 12:47:52 AM  

madgonad: hey actually do it every damn day.

If you want to eat at the local City Union Mission - you have to go to the religious service and pray.

This is the #1 reason that religious people hate the government helping out poor people. The poors are supposed to grovel and beg for their meals. And the have to listen to the church services telling them that they are sinners and how Jesus is the only way.

THAT is why this guy is a prick. If he wanted to make a statement he should have just said that he wanted assistance to get to the people who refuse to kowtow to religion in order to get help.


Wow, so delusional.

First off, 'religious people' actually open places like the City Union Mission, while the atheists / agnostics do little / nothing to help the poor.

How many atheists / agnostic run 'missions'?
How many atheists / agnostic run hospitals?

Second, being charitable is not only beneficial to the people receiving the charity, it also can be uplifting to the people being charitable.....when the government takes money there is no 'choice' and it is not 'charity'.

Not to mention the fact that the government needs $100 of tax payer money to get $5 worth product / service (unless there is someone stupid enough to tell us that the government spends our money better/wiser than we can...I mean $100 for a $5 hammer is a good deal right?)

Bottom line, atheists / agnostics don't open missions for the poor or hospitals for this sick/needy with 1/20th the consistency of those who are 'of faith', but it is those religious nut jobs that are ruining the country....close the missions and close the hospitals, that will show those religious nut jobs.
 
2013-12-31 12:50:13 AM  

ReapTheChaos: "Comedian Raised $126k for Atheist Tornado Victim to Piss Off Christians"

I'd doubt any of her christian neighbors will get pissed off about it, so basically all this guy proved is how big a jerk he is.


"God works in mysterious ways."
 
2013-12-31 12:58:39 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Popular Opinion: of course community doesn't have to be a congregation, but it seems people hardly even know their neighbors anymore compared to when i was growing up.

Right. You can get that sense of belonging out of any other gang... Crips, Bloods, Outlaws, Hell's Angels, Baptists, Methodists....

But I was really just ridiculing any theists who think atheists are really theists who don't like to eat their vegetables or something.


hahah, the birth of an athiest = church or football?

faith is a gift not everyone receives.
 
2013-12-31 12:59:56 AM  

Divinegrace: First off, 'religious people' actually open places like the City Union Mission, while the atheists / agnostics do little / nothing to help the poor.


How do you know this?

The only reason you see religious organizations is because there are enough people to make religious organizations, and those organizations want to advertise for themselves.

Bill Gates is an atheist, and has set up a multi-billion-dollar foundation for education and the alleviation of suffering. Warren Buffett is also non-religious, and has donated billions.

And that part about the Government stealing your money and it not being charity? Many voters think the government is much more efficient and impartial than religious charities -- you don't have to sit through an hour lecture on how horrible you are before you get food stamps.

The Red Cross is non-religious and impartial, and doles out some of the most efficient relief in times of emergency.

You're just on a high-horse because you have higher numbers. There's no data that says Christians are automatically more charitable than the non-religious.
 
2013-12-31 01:03:00 AM  

Divinegrace: Not to mention the fact that the government needs $100 of tax payer money to get $5 worth product / service (unless there is someone stupid enough to tell us that the government spends our money better/wiser than we can...I mean $100 for a $5 hammer is a good deal right?)


That's a pretty bold statement. Would you care to back it up with evidence relating to Social Security and Medicare?
 
2013-12-31 01:07:26 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: s2s2s2: SurfaceTension: s2s2s2: If I've got millions of children who have chosen to be on good terms with me, why should I give a fark about all you who don't visit, or go so far as to denounce me? You ain't my kids. FARK YOU!

-God.

Also, way to show it's more about your anger at god than your caring for people, Stanhope.

For the 834,727 time, Atheists (like me) are not "angry at God."  We don't consider him...we live without a belief and a faith in the divine. Please take my word for this and stop thinking otherwise.

Are you like, the pope of the atheists?

Yeah.

It's much more accurate to say that people flock to religion because they're pissed that they've figured out they're just bio-chemical reactions, no more special than bubbling soda and vinegar, that will eventually play out in an indifferent universe. You're all just angry at nature.


Why would the religious be mad at creation?
 
2013-12-31 01:17:15 AM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Divinegrace: Not to mention the fact that the government needs $100 of tax payer money to get $5 worth product / service (unless there is someone stupid enough to tell us that the government spends our money better/wiser than we can...I mean $100 for a $5 hammer is a good deal right?)

That's a pretty bold statement. Would you care to back it up with evidence relating to Social Security and Medicare?


You mean other than the fact that both are going to dry up, not because they were not funded...but because the government spent the money on 'pet projects' instead of keeping their damned hands off it?
 
2013-12-31 01:18:14 AM  

s2s2s2: Why would the religious be mad at creation?


Are you like, the pope of theists?
 
2013-12-31 01:20:55 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Divinegrace: First off, 'religious people' actually open places like the City Union Mission, while the atheists / agnostics do little / nothing to help the poor.

How do you know this?

The only reason you see religious organizations is because there are enough people to make religious organizations, and those organizations want to advertise for themselves.

Bill Gates is an atheist, and has set up a multi-billion-dollar foundation for education and the alleviation of suffering. Warren Buffett is also non-religious, and has donated billions.

And that part about the Government stealing your money and it not being charity? Many voters think the government is much more efficient and impartial than religious charities -- you don't have to sit through an hour lecture on how horrible you are before you get food stamps.

The Red Cross is non-religious and impartial, and doles out some of the most efficient relief in times of emergency.

You're just on a high-horse because you have higher numbers. There's no data that says Christians are automatically more charitable than the non-religious.


Then please by all means tell everyone the names of the atheists / agnostic run homeless shelters / hospitals in your city. I am SURE there are more of them than those open / run by 'religious nuts jobs'....right?
 
2013-12-31 01:34:56 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: s2s2s2: Why would the religious be mad at creation?

Are you like, the pope of theists?


I asked a question. I didn't decide to speak for all religious people. Someone who speaks for all atheists might be gunning for pope of atheists, tho.

I thought you atheists were supposed to be smart.
 
2013-12-31 01:36:57 AM  

Divinegrace: Then please by all means tell everyone the names of the atheists / agnostic run homeless shelters / hospitals in your city. I am SURE there are more of them than those open / run by 'religious nuts jobs'....right?


How would you know? Do you think atheists walk around with Scarlet As on their vests? We're a small part of the US population.

In Sweden, where the nonreligious are the vast majority of the population, the quality of life is demonstrably far superior to that in the US by any number of metrics. You can google that.

You know the religious charities because they do it to spread religion. In order for religion to spread, it's necessary to find people who are either emotionally undeveloped, or in emotional turmoil -- either in early childhood, or right after a disaster or period of desperation in their lives.

They use charity as bait for desperate fish.
 
2013-12-31 01:40:31 AM  

s2s2s2: Lenny_da_Hog: s2s2s2: Why would the religious be mad at creation?

Are you like, the pope of theists?

I asked a question. I didn't decide to speak for all religious people. Someone who speaks for all atheists might be gunning for pope of atheists, tho.

I thought you atheists were supposed to be smart.


While I know many, Many, MANY 'knowledgeable' atheists, I don't know many that are 'wise' (to be fair I do know a few who are also 'wise', just not many). Still, atheists think that 'knowledge' is the end all be all, and miss out on what is really important (they lack wisdom).
 
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