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(Sun Sentinel)   Woman who gave $2 million to a psychic first started wondering if she would ever see her money again when the psychic showed up on TV clutching an expensive purse and claiming she was assaulted by Lindsay Lohan   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 92
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2013-12-30 02:30:00 PM  
People like to downplay the psychic "abilities" these con-artists possess, but I'll be damned if they don't have a knack for finding suckers.
 
2013-12-30 02:52:38 PM  
Caputo said she believed for a long time that the psychic, a woman known as Tiffany Ava Mitchell, was giving the money to God and to charities as part of a mission to clear "negativity" and "bad energy" from Caputo's life. Mitchell seemed to be a quiet, churchgoing young woman who was financially struggling to raise two young children with her husband, Caputo said, and the women talked about scriptures at Mitchell's storefront psychic businesses in Palm Beach and West Palm Beach and by the pool near Mitchell's cramped apartment.

I fail to understand how people think this is fundamentally different from putting money in the plate at church.
 
2013-12-30 02:59:12 PM  
I'll bet she didn't see that coming.....
 
2013-12-30 03:01:42 PM  
I'm in the wrong business
 
2013-12-30 03:04:03 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Caputo said she believed for a long time that the psychic, a woman known as Tiffany Ava Mitchell, was giving the money to God and to charities as part of a mission to clear "negativity" and "bad energy" from Caputo's life. Mitchell seemed to be a quiet, churchgoing young woman who was financially struggling to raise two young children with her husband, Caputo said, and the women talked about scriptures at Mitchell's storefront psychic businesses in Palm Beach and West Palm Beach and by the pool near Mitchell's cramped apartment.

I fail to understand how people think this is fundamentally different from putting money in the plate at church.


Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.
 
2013-12-30 03:04:19 PM  
So she gave this woman $2 million in gifts over two years, without a contract, in the hopes that the woman would go on to give them to charities or "God."  Setting aside that in no religion that I am aware of does God have his / her / their own bank account, the law wasn't broken here.  This woman is just unhappy that the recipient of her gifts didn't spend them the way she'd hoped.  A fool and her money....
 
2013-12-30 03:04:38 PM  

divx88: I'm in the wrong business


Two wrong businesses.  One, the scammer.  The other is whatever gets you 2 million to spend on a frikken psychic.
 
2013-12-30 03:06:48 PM  
One has to wonder how a woman this gullible even has 2 million to her name.
 
2013-12-30 03:06:53 PM  

Warthog: So she gave this woman $2 million in gifts over two years, without a contract, in the hopes that the woman would go on to give them to charities or "God."  Setting aside that in no religion that I am aware of does God have his / her / their own bank account, the law wasn't broken here.  This woman is just unhappy that the recipient of her gifts didn't spend them the way she'd hoped.  A fool and her money....


I believe she is more upset a building didn't have her name on it. I think that speaks to a deeper issue. She sounds selfish.
 
2013-12-30 03:07:25 PM  
Real psychics don't hire themselves out at psychics; they use it to cheat at cards and keep their mouth shut about it.
 
2013-12-30 03:09:03 PM  
Well, I went to my psychic the other day; and knocked on the door... she asked: Who's There?...

We talked and talked. I really felt a great connection to this person, and she to me... after a few minutes, she said; you know, you think you are smarter than your Boss... boy, was I so in luck; what a genius of a mind reader... she knew my very soul.  A few more minutes went by, and she said, you know, you think you deserve a raise... shame you aren't getting a good % increase from that boss... Oh My God, This woman is so deep and knows me to the heart... a wonderful session... came to an end 60 minutes... she asked for her fee.

But, oh, noes. I figured out she was a fraud... she asked for her $100... and I wrote her a check... then she took it!

Better go throw $1 dollar silver coin into the wishing well!
 
2013-12-30 03:10:38 PM  

jaylectricity: People like to downplay the psychic "abilities" these con-artists possess, but I'll be damned if they don't have a knack for finding suckers.


FTA: Stacy Caputo says she gave a South Florida "psychic" more than $2 million over a five-year period and doubts that she will ever get any of that money back.

She also turned that woman in to a psychic by some sort of transitive property. Stacy has definitely seen what will undoubtedly happen in her future.
 
2013-12-30 03:14:32 PM  
You could buy 200,000 Magic 8-Balls for the price of a single phony psychic.
 
2013-12-30 03:14:36 PM  

rjakobi: Benevolent Misanthrope: I fail to understand how people think this is fundamentally different from putting money in the plate at church.

Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.


Depending on the size of the church, It can appear suspiciously the same. You know, the one where the ministry has mansions and private jets. In Oklahoma we have this franchised church called life church. I know of at least three locations but I bet there is at least double that. The founder is driven around in a stretch limo.
 
2013-12-30 03:15:39 PM  

rjakobi: Benevolent Misanthrope: Caputo said she believed for a long time that the psychic, a woman known as Tiffany Ava Mitchell, was giving the money to God and to charities as part of a mission to clear "negativity" and "bad energy" from Caputo's life. Mitchell seemed to be a quiet, churchgoing young woman who was financially struggling to raise two young children with her husband, Caputo said, and the women talked about scriptures at Mitchell's storefront psychic businesses in Palm Beach and West Palm Beach and by the pool near Mitchell's cramped apartment.

I fail to understand how people think this is fundamentally different from putting money in the plate at church.

Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.


Yes, the classic Ponzi scheme in the shape of a cross instead of a pyramid.
Nice.
 
2013-12-30 03:16:07 PM  

rjakobi: Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.


lol

Oh wait you're serious aren't you?
 
2013-12-30 03:17:40 PM  
Give the money to me. When I die, I will tell God you're a great person. If I don't, what are your going to do, kill me.
 
2013-12-30 03:20:33 PM  

jaylectricity: knack for finding suckers


Con artists can be incredibly charismatic and convincing, and ones such as these draw their prey in by setting up biz. The desperate, the lonely and those consumed by grief are their prey, almost always women in a vulnerable emotional state.

Scum. Their victims may be foolish, but they're not just robbed of money. It's purely evil in a moral sense.
 
2013-12-30 03:20:40 PM  
But remember, the rich got that way by hard work and intelligence.  Everyone else is just lazy or somehow inferior.
 
2013-12-30 03:23:01 PM  
Give your money to superstition (any superstition), watch superstition spend your money on a new car, mansion, and jewelry.

And you had it coming for being stupidly gullible.

Mind you, that doesn't make the person who scammed you any less of a scumbag, it just means you have a share in the guilt.
 
2013-12-30 03:24:12 PM  

Lady Indica: jaylectricity: knack for finding suckers

Con artists can be incredibly charismatic and convincing, and ones such as these draw their prey in by setting up biz. The desperate, the lonely and those consumed by grief are their prey, almost always women in a vulnerable emotional state.

Scum. Their victims may be foolish, but they're not just robbed of money. It's purely evil in a moral sense.


We can't go around saving stupid people all the time from themselves. It's patronizing.
 
2013-12-30 03:24:23 PM  

Clock Spider Jerusalem: Real psychics don't hire themselves out at psychics; they use it to cheat at cards and keep their mouth shut about it.


Assuming there is such a thing as a "real" psycic and assuming I was one for this conversation I'd do cheating at gambling or something and not psycic readings just for the shear fact there are so many con artist ckaiming to be "psycics"
 
2013-12-30 03:25:03 PM  
It is amazingly difficult for me to believe how anybody could be this gullible.  I think some people are just so lonely that they'll throw money at any given person who says they are their friend.  *sigh*
 
2013-12-30 03:26:08 PM  
The weirdest thing to me is that she ever expected to see the money again.
 
2013-12-30 03:26:15 PM  

rjakobi: Benevolent Misanthrope: Caputo said she believed for a long time that the psychic, a woman known as Tiffany Ava Mitchell, was giving the money to God and to charities as part of a mission to clear "negativity" and "bad energy" from Caputo's life. Mitchell seemed to be a quiet, churchgoing young woman who was financially struggling to raise two young children with her husband, Caputo said, and the women talked about scriptures at Mitchell's storefront psychic businesses in Palm Beach and West Palm Beach and by the pool near Mitchell's cramped apartment.

I fail to understand how people think this is fundamentally different from putting money in the plate at church.

Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.


OK - and how is that fundamentally different?
Discuss scriptures with friends vs discuss scriptures with psychic
Pay for building and staff vs pay for psychic's rent and upkeep
Giving money to the church and supporting its mission is part of your salvation (atones for your sinful nature) vs Giving the money to your psychic clears your negative energy
Feel better and have hope after going to church vs feel better and have hope after going to psychic

I don't see the difference.
 
2013-12-30 03:26:49 PM  

Swampmaster: Well, I went to my psychic the other day; and knocked on the door... she asked: Who's There?...

We talked and talked. I really felt a great connection to this person, and she to me... after a few minutes, she said; you know, you think you are smarter than your Boss... boy, was I so in luck; what a genius of a mind reader... she knew my very soul.  A few more minutes went by, and she said, you know, you think you deserve a raise... shame you aren't getting a good % increase from that boss... Oh My God, This woman is so deep and knows me to the heart... a wonderful session... came to an end 60 minutes... she asked for her fee.

But, oh, noes. I figured out she was a fraud... she asked for her $100... and I wrote her a check... then she took it!

Better go throw $1 dollar silver coin into the wishing well!


Well yea, no shiat.
 
2013-12-30 03:27:09 PM  
PROTIP: If anyone offers to help you with your "negativity" and "bad energy" and is asking for money, they have no intention of helping you with your "negativity" and "bad energy."

How is it that people this stupid have $2 million to throw around?
 
2013-12-30 03:27:12 PM  
What gets me is the idiocy all around...
Caputo: "We can't prove she didn't give the money to God."

*facepalm*

Ok, then you deserve what you get. I am pretty sure the evidence is there if you follow the money.
 
2013-12-30 03:27:13 PM  
FTFA: Stacy Caputo says she gave a South Florida "psychic" more than $2 million over a five-year period and doubts that she will ever get any of that money back.

Because her other psychic, who she paid $3 million, told her she wouldn't.
 
2013-12-30 03:27:29 PM  
Damn, some rich people really are just plain dumb.

CSB: I worked for the Detroit ABC affiliate as a video editor a bunch of years ago.  During my time there, they started to lease out a portion of the facilities to a religious programmer (WORD network or something, I forget).  The designated parking area for the on-air religious "talent" was filled with Benzes, Cadillacs, Beamers, and even a few Rolls Royces.  Talk about being in the wrong business...
 
2013-12-30 03:27:29 PM  
Why does anyone feel they should say "phony" psychic" ? is there any other kind of psychic ?
 
2013-12-30 03:27:50 PM  
How the hell do morons like this ever get $2m?
 
2013-12-30 03:28:00 PM  

Wasilla Hillbilly: The weirdest thing to me is that she ever expected to see the money again.


She expected that the psychic would have done good works on her behalf with it.  Receipts, she wanted.

Hah.
 
2013-12-30 03:28:31 PM  

karmaceutical: But remember, the rich got that way by hard work and intelligence.  Everyone else is just lazy or somehow inferior.


apparently the poor aren't clever enough to come up with swindles like this and instead just use public representatives to commit proxy muggings.
 
2013-12-30 03:29:33 PM  

jaylectricity: People like to downplay the psychic "abilities" these con-artists possess, but I'll be damned if they don't have a knack for finding suckers.


It is just a numbers game. Everyone has at least one weakness and all it takes some someone with a little hustle to find them out. I bet that physic had given her card to hundreds of women before she hit the gold mine. Its no different than the entire F2P model in gaming. It is the exact same thing.
 
2013-12-30 03:32:32 PM  

rjakobi: Benevolent Misanthrope: Caputo said she believed for a long time that the psychic, a woman known as Tiffany Ava Mitchell, was giving the money to God and to charities as part of a mission to clear "negativity" and "bad energy" from Caputo's life. Mitchell seemed to be a quiet, churchgoing young woman who was financially struggling to raise two young children with her husband, Caputo said, and the women talked about scriptures at Mitchell's storefront psychic businesses in Palm Beach and West Palm Beach and by the pool near Mitchell's cramped apartment.

I fail to understand how people think this is fundamentally different from putting money in the plate at church.

Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.


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Totally agrees,
 
2013-12-30 03:33:42 PM  
How did this idiot woman ever amass 2 million dollars to lose in the first place?
 
2013-12-30 03:34:55 PM  

lennavan: rjakobi: Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.

lol

Oh wait you're serious aren't you?


You can be cynical and glib if you like, but there are plenty of churches which have open ledgers and finances who do good for the community.  I can think of at least a half a dozen well-run and often used soup kitchens and food pantries run by religious organizations in my town alone.  Clearly that is not always the case and I'm sure we could sit here linking to dozens if not hundreds of stories where religious organizations screwed up through negligence, greed, or plain stupidity, but that is besides the point.  The point is that giving money to churches, synagogues, or mosques  can help people in tangible ways.  Whether or not it is the most effective or efficient means to that end is a separate debate altogether.
 
2013-12-30 03:36:02 PM  

farkeruk: How the hell do morons like this ever get $2m?


Fools and their money are soon parted.
I can't work up any sympathy for this "victim."
 
2013-12-30 03:37:36 PM  
Well that tiger skin chair is just a tad ostentatious...
 
2013-12-30 03:37:53 PM  

farkeruk: How the hell do morons like this ever get $2m?


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...and don't pay your mortgage for a few years.
 
2013-12-30 03:38:09 PM  
It's hard to be sympathetic for someone who is giving away millions of dollars.  She can obviously afford it. She isn't going hungry and she isn't homeless. It's not hurting her a bit, just some spare change.  This is just money she has no need for, and she voluntarily gave it away.
 
2013-12-30 03:38:14 PM  

Bslim: How did this idiot woman ever amass 2 million dollars to lose in the first place?


Futurities.
 
2013-12-30 03:42:00 PM  

jaylectricity: People like to downplay the psychic "abilities" these con-artists possess, but I'll be damned if they don't have a knack for finding suckers.


must be a sixth sense of sorts

/I see stupid people
//also, this is what I like to call "dumb people tax"
 
2013-12-30 03:42:12 PM  
There are two economies.  One deals in 2014 money and pays in 1973 money.  And the one that deals in 2014 money is aggressively trying to get every penny of all that 1973 money back from the suckers and the serfs.
 
2013-12-30 03:43:08 PM  
It sounds like she's hooked up with a second scam artist, too.

FTFA : Bob Nygaard, a Boca Raton-based private investigator who works with people who feel they were victimized by psychic or fortune-teller frauds, said many police officers and prosecutors are too quick to dismiss or reject such complaints.

Boca-Raton (the US version of Nigeria, chock full of scam artists), Private Investigator.  Not a cop, but he targets people who were stupid enough to give money to psychic's.  He'll be on their side, he'll promise to investigate, he'll help them get their money back.  And they'll pay him to do it.
 
2013-12-30 03:43:19 PM  

Bslim: How did this idiot woman ever amass 2 million dollars to lose in the first place?


Google indicates shes a Realtor.  Its not hard to amass a small fortune selling property in Palm Beach.
 
2013-12-30 03:44:00 PM  

tetsoushima: lennavan: rjakobi: Because that money goes to the collective budget of that specific church and not to the individual preacher as is usually oh you were being sarcastic sorry.

lol

Oh wait you're serious aren't you?

You can be cynical and glib if you like, but there are plenty of churches which have open ledgers and finances who do good for the community.  I can think of at least a half a dozen well-run and often used soup kitchens and food pantries run by religious organizations in my town alone.  Clearly that is not always the case and I'm sure we could sit here linking to dozens if not hundreds of stories where religious organizations screwed up through negligence, greed, or plain stupidity, but that is besides the point.  The point is that giving money to churches, synagogues, or mosques  can help people in tangible ways.  Whether or not it is the most effective or efficient means to that end is a separate debate altogether.


Doesn't mean that the person tipping the collection plate every Sunday is doing anything other than paying for empty words.

Still gullible. Still buying a bridge. Maybe, just maybe, inadvertently doing some small good with their foolishness.

But one might make the same argument by saying that the people throwing money at Joel Osteen are somehow doing a small amount of good because he uses that money to buy things and that's stimulating the economy and paying peoples wages.

It doesn't excuse their naivete, nor the person doing the fleecing.
 
2013-12-30 03:45:10 PM  
Much of what "Ava" told her rang true, Caputo said. Caputo said she felt empty despite her wealth and was totally open to divesting herself of cash and assets that did not make her happy.

Anyone who says, "money can't buy happiness" hasn't been shopping in the right places.
 
2013-12-30 03:45:10 PM  
"Mitchell seemed to be a quiet, churchgoing young woman who was financially struggling to raise two young children with her husband"
-=-
Well, if you have 400,000 a year you can give to anyone, you are not financially struggling.
Serves the heathen right.
 
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