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2013-12-30 02:18:30 PM  
Good
 
2013-12-30 02:25:37 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

GTFO
 
2013-12-30 02:25:38 PM  
Go back to being a badass defensive coordinator.
 
2013-12-30 02:32:51 PM  
The old man must have let junior make the call.

Finally.
 
2013-12-30 02:38:20 PM  
I was expecting something similar to Wayne Fontes.

Shoulda been canned 2 years ago but hangs on to the job like grim death.
 
2013-12-30 02:38:28 PM  
As long as the Fords own the Lions they will never have a winning team.
 
2013-12-30 02:38:59 PM  
Dammit, I actually submitted this same headline from another source. I totally didn't see it as I'm not a TFer.

Great minds think alike subby. Was hoping to get my first green with this one.
 
2013-12-30 02:43:58 PM  

Earthen: Dammit, I actually submitted this same headline from another source. I totally didn't see it as I'm not a TFer.

Great minds think alike subby. Was hoping to get my first green with this one.


I have no doubt there were at least 37 different variations of that headline submitted.  Spaceballs is about as far from obscure on Fark.com as you can possibly get.  Which is why I didn't bother submitting the joke.
 
2013-12-30 02:44:12 PM  
While I'm happy with the decision, nothing changes until the Ford's sell the team to someone who cares.

/Like Mr Illitch
//who actually cares about Detroit and deserves that WS ring before he kicks it
 
2013-12-30 02:48:46 PM  
Thank FSM!

It sucks that they still owe him 12 million because of that extension but this is money well spent. Now please back a dump truck of cash up to Tony Dungy's doorstep!

This team has an amazing amount of talent that just needs a good leader to whip them into shape.

/What? A man can dream cant he?
//or Cowher...
///Gruden? Yup, still dreaming
 
2013-12-30 02:49:00 PM  
Please let them hire the Shanahans.
 
2013-12-30 02:50:39 PM  
 
2013-12-30 02:50:40 PM  
The worst part is, he has to put his Detroit home on the market.
 
2013-12-30 03:01:52 PM  
As someone who loves watching the Lions fail, this is devastating news.
 
2013-12-30 03:03:28 PM  

Jews for Hitler: Please let them hire the Shanahans.


That's what will happen.  The Fords are idiots.
 
2013-12-30 03:15:06 PM  

surrounded by arseholes: Thank FSM!

It sucks that they still owe him 12 million because of that extension but this is money well spent. Now please back a dump truck of cash up to Tony Dungy's doorstep!

This team has an amazing amount of talent that just needs a good leader to whip them into shape.

/What? A man can dream cant he?
//or Cowher...
///Gruden? Yup, still dreaming


How about Greg Schiano?
 
2013-12-30 03:16:36 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-12-30 03:18:40 PM  

surrounded by arseholes: Thank FSM!

It sucks that they still owe him 12 million because of that extension but this is money well spent. Now please back a dump truck of cash up to Tony Dungy's doorstep!

This team has an amazing amount of talent that just needs a good leader to whip them into shape.

/What? A man can dream cant he?
//or Cowher...
///Gruden? Yup, still dreaming


Coaches who have won Super Bowls don't tend to come back. When they do, it usually doesn't work out well. They've lost that hunger.

Think about Ditka in New Orleans. Shanahan in DC. Vince Lombardi in DC.

Holmgren and Parcells at least got back to the SB. Vermeil in KC was solid. But you don't want a retread. You want somebody like Tom Cable.
 
2013-12-30 03:27:41 PM  
I'm fine with him being fired.  I saw this team as a 1 and done in the playoffs, so they fell below expectations.  That being said - the next coach won't do much better as long as Stafford is the quarterback.  Good coaches don't need to tell their quarterbacks to improve their mechanics in the offseason because good coaches have self motivated quarterbacks who are always striving to improve.  And Matt Stafford is not that guy.
 
2013-12-30 03:29:32 PM  
I bet he got fired, threw the challenge flag and was then told he couldn't challenge it. It somehow resulted in a Houston TD I'm sure.
 
2013-12-30 03:30:31 PM  
Anyone who could lose the division to the Packers and Bears this year with a vastly more talented team deserves to go.

The only problem is - since it is the Lions - they will probably hire a coach that is even worse with this team.
 
2013-12-30 03:30:51 PM  

starzman2003: While I'm happy with the decision, nothing changes until the Ford's sell the team to someone who cares.

/Like Mr Illitch
//who actually cares about Detroit and deserves that WS ring before he kicks it


Who actually cares about Detroit?  Ummmmm...didn't the Fords just build a state of the art stadium right downtown?  If he didn't care about Detroit, he could have kept the stadium in the suburbs.  Ford has his (many) faults, but you're reaching with that one.

/Tigers might finally win a WS now that Illitch is keeping his hands off the Tigers.  He's to blame for that ridiculous infield they've had the last few seasons.
 
2013-12-30 03:31:42 PM  
Richie Kotite is still available.  You know, when he coached the Iggles and the Jets, his teams never left anything in the locker room.
 
2013-12-30 03:35:37 PM  
I vote Millen
 
2013-12-30 03:36:12 PM  
When does Tom Cable become available again?
 
2013-12-30 03:43:24 PM  

Shame Us: I vote Millen


The Bucs need a GM.
 
2013-12-30 03:55:26 PM  
I hear Frazier is available.
 
2013-12-30 03:57:26 PM  
To be fair, Schwartz didn't tell Stafford to meltdown on a weekly basis.
 
2013-12-30 04:03:51 PM  
As a Packers fan, I'm sorry to see him go.
 
2013-12-30 04:10:39 PM  

surrounded by arseholes: Thank FSM!

It sucks that they still owe him 12 million because of that extension but this is money well spent. Now please back a dump truck of cash up to Tony Dungy's doorstep!

This team has an amazing amount of talent that just needs a good leader to whip them into shape.

/What? A man can dream cant he?
//or Cowher...
///Gruden? Yup, still dreaming


They'll have their pick of available head coaches. They have a lot of really talented playmakers and a franchise QB installed. The rest of the vacancies are basically dumpster fires.

Washington Football Club: Franchise QB who's lost the locker room (reportedly), lost his mobility and hasn't been great as a pocket QB. The team's defense is not very good, and the line is one of the worst in football. An already expensive roster likely means cuts need to be made. You have to work for Dan Snyder.

Browns: No QB at the moment, several key players hitting free agency (Pro-bowlers Alex Mack and TJ Ward), organization is absolute clownshoes top-to-bottom. Depressed economic area means that cap space will likely remain unused.

Bucs: No QB, already likely over the cap going into next year. Total rebuild.

Texans: No QB, and Johnson is aging. Defense was surprisingly not good.

Vikings: Not a bad situation, although still no QB. Probably the second best situation for a coach
 
2013-12-30 04:22:30 PM  

LL316: /Tigers might finally win a WS now that Illitch is keeping his hands off the Tigers.  He's to blame for that ridiculous infield they've had the last few seasons.


I loved when the Tigers had Young, Fielder, Martinez and Fielder on the team in the same lineup. I think that's got to be the record for most players with a natural position of DH in a single lineup.

I will say that I'm glad the Tigers didn't further double down this year. I had fears that Illich would go insane and sign Cano, Choo and 3 closers. I mean, I would have laughed heartily 4-5 years down the line when the Tigers would have been expensive *and* awful, but that would mean another two years of hoping for a wildcard birth at best for my Indians (barring a ton of injuries for the Tigers).
 
2013-12-30 04:25:03 PM  

netweavr: When does Tom Cable become available again?


Stay away from Cable.  He's OURS.

He's made incredible strides whipping our offensive line into shape.  Run first teams are rare these days, and ones that make it work are rarer still.
 
2013-12-30 04:27:46 PM  

AdamK: for posterity's sake

the handshake heard 'round the world


I think some people don't realize how big of a douche you have to be to out asshole Jim Harbaugh, but somehow Schwartz managed to do it.
 
2013-12-30 04:34:56 PM  

lacydog: surrounded by arseholes: Thank FSM!

It sucks that they still owe him 12 million because of that extension but this is money well spent. Now please back a dump truck of cash up to Tony Dungy's doorstep!

This team has an amazing amount of talent that just needs a good leader to whip them into shape.

/What? A man can dream cant he?
//or Cowher...
///Gruden? Yup, still dreaming

They'll have their pick of available head coaches. They have a lot of really talented playmakers and a franchise QB installed. The rest of the vacancies are basically dumpster fires.

Washington Football Club: Franchise QB who's lost the locker room (reportedly), lost his mobility and hasn't been great as a pocket QB. The team's defense is not very good, and the line is one of the worst in football. An already expensive roster likely means cuts need to be made. You have to work for Dan Snyder.

Browns: No QB at the moment, several key players hitting free agency (Pro-bowlers Alex Mack and TJ Ward), organization is absolute clownshoes top-to-bottom. Depressed economic area means that cap space will likely remain unused.

Bucs: No QB, already likely over the cap going into next year. Total rebuild.

Texans: No QB, and Johnson is aging. Defense was surprisingly not good.

Vikings: Not a bad situation, although still no QB. Probably the second best situation for a coach


Skins end the penalty to their salary cap this offseason, they'll have an extra 18 million to work with
 
2013-12-30 04:36:47 PM  
Packers fans saddened by this news, unless he is hired in MIN, cuz that would be a perfect fit for lulz.
 
2013-12-30 04:36:47 PM  

netweavr: When does Tom Cable become available again?


I'd assume he's the same as everyone else. Browns have requested to talk to Dan Quinn and he's available to interview after Jan 5th. Assume Cable is the same deal since they're on the same staff.
 
2013-12-30 04:39:53 PM  

roc6783: Packers fans saddened by this news, unless he is hired in MIN, cuz that would be a perfect fit for lulz.


fark you, your kids, your wife, your mom, your minister, your pets and your glass of beer.

DIAF.
 
2013-12-30 04:44:04 PM  

Fade2black: Stay away from Cable. He's OURS.



Seconded.
 
2013-12-30 04:45:49 PM  

LL316: starzman2003: While I'm happy with the decision, nothing changes until the Ford's sell the team to someone who cares.

/Like Mr Illitch
//who actually cares about Detroit and deserves that WS ring before he kicks it

Who actually cares about Detroit?  Ummmmm...didn't the Fords just build a state of the art stadium right downtown?  If he didn't care about Detroit, he could have kept the stadium in the suburbs.  Ford has his (many) faults, but you're reaching with that one.

/Tigers might finally win a WS now that Illitch is keeping his hands off the Tigers.  He's to blame for that ridiculous infield they've had the last few seasons.


Yeah, the Fords actually do care about the city. The problem is that they're shiatty owners. After 8 years of Millen, they reward the asst GM with a promo. 5 years later, Mayhew still gets to keep his job.

That said, Detroit is the perfect place to be a head coach, and the Fords have a rep as being great bosses (on the Lions side; not talking about FoMoCo here). Seems like the ideal place for a big-name hire.
 
2013-12-30 04:53:47 PM  

The_Sponge: Fade2black: Stay away from Cable. He's OURS.


Seconded.


He's gone and you know it. You guys are like rehab for former Raiders, once their image in cleaned up people move on.
 
2013-12-30 04:54:12 PM  
The players aren't happy Schwartz was fired, calling him a "players coach". Maybe they needed less of a buddy and more of a guy who made them get their shiat together, ie. Stafford.
 
2013-12-30 05:07:30 PM  
Anytime I get JISP to tell me to DIAF, I know I am doing it right. He couldn't be any WORSE than Frazier, could he? Make it a package deal with Stafford for AP. Seems legit.
 
2013-12-30 05:09:16 PM  

lacydog: surrounded by arseholes: Thank FSM!

It sucks that they still owe him 12 million because of that extension but this is money well spent. Now please back a dump truck of cash up to Tony Dungy's doorstep!

This team has an amazing amount of talent that just needs a good leader to whip them into shape.

/What? A man can dream cant he?
//or Cowher...
///Gruden? Yup, still dreaming

They'll have their pick of available head coaches. They have a lot of really talented playmakers and a franchise QB installed. The rest of the vacancies are basically dumpster fires.

Washington Football Club: Franchise QB who's lost the locker room (reportedly), lost his mobility and hasn't been great as a pocket QB. The team's defense is not very good, and the line is one of the worst in football. An already expensive roster likely means cuts need to be made. You have to work for Dan Snyder.

Browns: No QB at the moment, several key players hitting free agency (Pro-bowlers Alex Mack and TJ Ward), organization is absolute clownshoes top-to-bottom. Depressed economic area means that cap space will likely remain unused.

Bucs: No QB, already likely over the cap going into next year. Total rebuild.

Texans: No QB, and Johnson is aging. Defense was surprisingly not good.

Vikings: Not a bad situation, although still no QB. Probably the second best situation for a coach


That franchise quarterback is up for debate - Atlanta and Houston were saying the same thing at the end of last year.

I still think the Houston job is the best - good owner, first pick in the draft, one year off of a division title.

Lions are second but only if Suh isn't the next Haynesworth and refuses to grow up becoming a cancer in the locker room.

I though Glennon was pretty decent and Tampa is pretty young - Lovie Smith will take it.

I see the Browns making a run for Kevin Butler if Lebeau doesn't retire.
 
2013-12-30 05:12:39 PM  

lacydog: LL316: /Tigers might finally win a WS now that Illitch is keeping his hands off the Tigers.  He's to blame for that ridiculous infield they've had the last few seasons.

I loved when the Tigers had Young, Fielder, Martinez and Fielder on the team in the same lineup. I think that's got to be the record for most players with a natural position of DH in a single lineup.

I will say that I'm glad the Tigers didn't further double down this year. I had fears that Illich would go insane and sign Cano, Choo and 3 closers. I mean, I would have laughed heartily 4-5 years down the line when the Tigers would have been expensive *and* awful, but that would mean another two years of hoping for a wildcard birth at best for my Indians (barring a ton of injuries for the Tigers).


Did I miss when they brought Cecil back?
 
2013-12-30 05:20:28 PM  

netweavr: The_Sponge: Fade2black: Stay away from Cable. He's OURS.


Seconded.

He's gone and you know it. You guys are like rehab for former Raiders, once their image in cleaned up people move on.


He's been discussed as a HC condidate since he got here...until last offseason when I don't think anyone asked to talk to him. We'll see, but his name seems to be fading from HC conversations.
 
2013-12-30 05:49:18 PM  
I think this firing was the right thing to do.  But it's the Lions, so I'm afraid of who they will bring in next.

This year was harder to stomach than 0-16.
 
2013-12-30 05:57:05 PM  
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2013-12-30 06:37:34 PM  

Over_Zealously_Apathetic: I think this firing was the right thing to do.  But it's the Lions, so I'm afraid of who they will bring in next.

This year was harder to stomach than 0-16.


They're not going to bring in a competent coach.  So I figured let's go for maximum troll and hire Lane Kiffin.  It would be glorious.  He'd roll in to work driving a different foreign car each week.  Just standing on the sideline with his smirk while the Lions throw interceptions and commit personal fouls on their way to a four win season.
 
2013-12-30 06:37:36 PM  

Earthen: Thank you to my sponsor for my fancy new TotalFark.  I can now see in full glory how late to the party I was!


Just don't go to TotalFark Discussion until next week. It's going to be a bit dead until the regulars get back.
 
2013-12-30 06:46:08 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Earthen: Thank you to my sponsor for my fancy new TotalFark.  I can now see in full glory how late to the party I was!

Just don't go to TotalFark Discussion until next week. It's going to be a bit dead until the regulars get back.


Yeah, then tell us about all the "What did you have for lunch?" and "There's a girl on TF I like, what should I do?" threads that we're all missing out on.
 
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