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(Wisconsin Gazette)   Family, alleging homophobia in bio about Norman Rockwell, says emphatically that the artist wasn't gay   (wisconsingazette.com) divider line 71
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2013-12-30 12:39:43 PM  
As a gay homosexual it is my solemn opinion that Norman Rockwell was not gay and did not have any secret hidden gay side.
 
2013-12-30 12:39:47 PM  
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2013-12-30 12:43:36 PM  

HailRobonia: As a gay homosexual it is my solemn opinion that Norman Rockwell was not gay and did not have any secret hidden gay side.


But, but.... he was an artist, and all artists have teh gey
 
2013-12-30 12:44:55 PM  
However, he was paranoid and always felt like somebody was watching him.
 
2013-12-30 12:46:35 PM  

JerseyTim: However, he was paranoid and always felt like somebody was watching him.


You're not supposed to start a sentence with "however."

That's the difference between "Prep" and "THE Prep."
 
2013-12-30 12:46:48 PM  
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2013-12-30 12:47:11 PM  

HailRobonia: As a gay homosexual it is my solemn opinion that Norman Rockwell was not gay and did not have any secret hidden gay side.


Is a gay homosexual a heterosexual? Or just a happy homosexual living in the 1890's?
 
2013-12-30 12:48:03 PM  
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2013-12-30 12:49:55 PM  
Dear Rockwell Family,

                    Despite what certain loudmouth bigots would have you believe; the overwhelming majority of Americans have no problem with Homosexuals.


Sincerely,


Someone from the 21st Century.
 
2013-12-30 12:52:41 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: [newnownext.mtvnimages.com image 360x450]


The kid's actually just there for a nice VD cure. Very 50's.
 
2013-12-30 12:53:55 PM  

HailRobonia: As a gay homosexual it is my solemn opinion that Norman Rockwell was not gay and did not have any secret hidden gay side.


Wouldn't that make you straight?
 
2013-12-30 12:54:48 PM  
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2013-12-30 12:56:46 PM  
So what about all those apple-cheeked little boys he painted? Was he not a pedophile neither?

And it's not ghey that all artists have, it's Bipolar. And writers get alien abducted.
 
2013-12-30 12:58:02 PM  
Hey everyone, including subby, read TFA......

The family, in its statement, referred to one passage in the book in which Solomon describes how Rockwell went to schools at recess and stopped little boys on the street, and that such behavior might be seen as problematic in today's world.
The passage ignores Rockwell's own explanation in his autobiography that after he persuaded a boy to pose for an illustration, they would go together to ask the child's mother for permission, the family said.
"She supports this unfounded claim with another phantom theory, that Rockwell was a closeted homosexual," the statement read. "To link pedophilia and homosexuality in this way is offensive and clearly homophobic."


Family says the author is homophobic
 
2013-12-30 01:00:38 PM  
THIS LOOKS GHEY / I CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE PIXELS AND FROM SEEING QUITE A  FEW GHEYS IN MY TIME.

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2013-12-30 01:00:58 PM  
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2013-12-30 01:02:50 PM  
Pretty good example of how a cultural group views/interprets everything through their own special lens
 
2013-12-30 01:05:26 PM  

Publikwerks: [s24.postimg.org image 360x450]


I laughed.
 
2013-12-30 01:05:37 PM  
FTA:  The family also said it was troubled that the Norman Rockwell Museum, located in Stockbridge, had endorsed the book.

Of course the Museum endorsed the book...they sell it in their gift shop for $28 ($10 more than on Amazon).
 
2013-12-30 01:06:17 PM  
I understand Rockwell was in lemonparty.jpg
 
2013-12-30 01:11:21 PM  

EasilyDistracted: FTA:  The family also said it was troubled that the Norman Rockwell Museum, located in Stockbridge, had endorsed the book.

Of course the Museum endorsed the book...they sell it in their gift shop for $28 ($10 more than on Amazon).


And that was after they received a free case of them for review with the price tag already on them.  BTW, I'm pretty sure "interesting interpretations and novel theories" is the reviewer's way of saying "spouting bullshiat and made a donation to this museum"
 
2013-12-30 01:15:15 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: [celebritynewsie.com image 400x434]


Swabbie with picture: "Look at my picture, and tell me I can't pull it off.  All the guys were drooling!"
Swabbie with pipe: "Get the lube, I need to launch my "torpedo".
 
2013-12-30 01:19:02 PM  
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2013-12-30 01:21:17 PM  

Publikwerks: Hey everyone, including subby, read TFA......

The family, in its statement, referred to one passage in the book in which Solomon describes how Rockwell went to schools at recess and stopped little boys on the street, and that such behavior might be seen as problematic in today's world.
The passage ignores Rockwell's own explanation in his autobiography that after he persuaded a boy to pose for an illustration, they would go together to ask the child's mother for permission, the family said.
"She supports this unfounded claim with another phantom theory, that Rockwell was a closeted homosexual," the statement read. "To link pedophilia and homosexuality in this way is offensive and clearly homophobic."

Family says the author is homophobic


Yeah, and they made a fair point about not linking homosexuality to pedophilia.

Of course, it amuses me that they're pretty much unintentionally saying, "There's no way he was a homosexual. Pedophiliac maybe, but not a homosexual!"
 
2013-12-30 01:22:36 PM  
I was going to say that no gay man would make such treacle and call it art, that gay men have more taste, etc. But in thinking about it, virtually all the gay men I know are bad dressers and have very plain tastes. So just like every other guy in the world then. I know a couple of ultra fab types who dress well and are the more stereotypical gay guys, but in reality they are no more representative of the larger population than Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders are of women in general.
 
2013-12-30 01:22:39 PM  

Marshal805: Despite what certain loudmouth bigots would have you believe; the overwhelming majority of Americans have no problem with Homosexuals.


I'd like to believe that. I really would. However I don't think that majority is quite as overwhelming as you think and much of that majority DOES have a problem but not enough of one to actively bash them or deny them equality.

So things are indeed much better. Still a lot of work to be done though. Just look at all the dingleberries around here who don't care about gay marriage but get all pissy when teh gays (or any minority for that matter) take a stand or hold their parades.

It is not "whining" or "AWing". It is clawing away at a vicious and entrenched beast that has denied you your fundamental human rights for FAR too long. If it wasn't for those "whiners" and "AWs" homosexuality would still be illegal in most places.
 
2013-12-30 01:39:51 PM  

here to help: However I don't think that majority is quite as overwhelming as you think and much of that majority DOES have a problem but not enough of one to actively bash them or deny them equality.


Then what's the problem?  If someone is saying: "I may have reservations about this, but I recognize your right to do as you please.", is that not the very definition of tolerance?
 
2013-12-30 01:44:49 PM  

mjjt: Pretty good example of how a cultural group views/interprets everything through their own special lens


How is the artists surviving family a cultural group? Going by TFA it's far from opinion or interpretation, the book is well loaded with errors.
 
2013-12-30 02:00:27 PM  

jshine: here to help: However I don't think that majority is quite as overwhelming as you think and much of that majority DOES have a problem but not enough of one to actively bash them or deny them equality.

Then what's the problem?  If someone is saying: "I may have reservations about this, but I recognize your right to do as you please.", is that not the very definition of tolerance?


In today's society, one must "celebrate" everything, or be deemed a "hater".  "I don't farking care." means you're a Nazi.
 
2013-12-30 02:06:34 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: JerseyTim: However, he was paranoid and always felt like somebody was watching him.

You're not supposed to start a sentence with "however."

That's the difference between "Prep" and "THE Prep."


You win this round!

*shakes fist*
 
2013-12-30 02:11:55 PM  

zimbomba63: jshine: here to help: However I don't think that majority is quite as overwhelming as you think and much of that majority DOES have a problem but not enough of one to actively bash them or deny them equality.

Then what's the problem?  If someone is saying: "I may have reservations about this, but I recognize your right to do as you please.", is that not the very definition of tolerance?

In today's society, one must "celebrate" everything, or be deemed a "hater".  "I don't farking care." means you're a Nazi.


You sound like a hater yourself.
 
2013-12-30 02:16:28 PM  

zimbomba63: jshine: here to help: However I don't think that majority is quite as overwhelming as you think and much of that majority DOES have a problem but not enough of one to actively bash them or deny them equality.

Then what's the problem?  If someone is saying: "I may have reservations about this, but I recognize your right to do as you please.", is that not the very definition of tolerance?

In today's society, one must "celebrate" everything, or be deemed a "hater".  "I don't farking care." means you're a Nazi.


I celebrate apathy.
 
2013-12-30 02:20:45 PM  

jshine: here to help: However I don't think that majority is quite as overwhelming as you think and much of that majority DOES have a problem but not enough of one to actively bash them or deny them equality.

Then what's the problem?  If someone is saying: "I may have reservations about this, but I recognize your right to do as you please.", is that not the very definition of tolerance?


In the "rights guaranteed by society" sense there is no problem at all but if you hold some kind of contempt in your heart towards people because of a genetic/biological predisposition it is not only irrational... it's not very cool. It's on the same level of people who think it's okay for black people to vote, be protected equally by the criminal justice system (we're still working on that one) or not get lynched but still not necessarily like them because of the color of their skin. It creates an unnecessary tension within society and even if they have been guaranteed their rights by the government they are still held back unfairly by people who may pass them over for jobs, give their daughter a hard time for dating them, say nasty/hurtful things to them or just generally treat them differently.

It makes life difficult for the recipients of that irrational fear/dislike which in turn causes backlash from those being judged unfairly. Then a vicious cycles whips up and we are all angrier and more jaded because of it.

However that is a far less problematic and insidious issue than what I was actually trying to point out in that post... and that is that there are still FAR too many people who think it is perfectly okay to outright deny rights to gays or do even WORSE things to them. The two do go kind of hand in hand though. The really hateful people who actually go out of their way to stomp on everything gay feed off the less volatile resentment of those who merely tolerate gay people.

So you not only need to fight for the rights of a group being unfairly marginalized you need to educate those who may not oppose those rights outright but still hold archaic prejudices. That is kind of what pride parades are about. They basically say "Lookit... this is who we are and we are NOT a threat to you. Come party and find out for yourselves".

The civil rights movement wasn't the end of the discussion about rights for blacks in a modern America. It was the just the beginning. Same is true for what we are seeing happen with the gay rights movement.

And make no mistake... if you have any kind of problem with gay people just because they are gay you are wrong. You are bigoted. You are not making any kind of rational or logical sense. They do not harm you in any way. They are not threatening your own lifestyle, family, children or religion (unless you are a zealot who misinterprets the teachings of Christ in which case f*ck you). Even if you balance out for population averages you are far more likely to have your life messed up in all the horrible ways that get attributed to teh homos by a so called "straight" person.

So yeah. Just give it a rest and join the right side of history. We'll be right here when you are ready.

/is hetero
//NTTIAWWT
 
2013-12-30 02:23:43 PM  

zimbomba63: In today's society, one must "celebrate" everything, or be deemed a "hater". "I don't farking care." means you're a Nazi.


There is a difference between "I don't care" and what jshine was referring to which is "yeah, they can have rights and stuff but they're still f*ggots and I doan like 'em".
 
2013-12-30 02:25:19 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: zimbomba63: jshine: here to help: However I don't think that majority is quite as overwhelming as you think and much of that majority DOES have a problem but not enough of one to actively bash them or deny them equality.

Then what's the problem?  If someone is saying: "I may have reservations about this, but I recognize your right to do as you please.", is that not the very definition of tolerance?

In today's society, one must "celebrate" everything, or be deemed a "hater".  "I don't farking care." means you're a Nazi.

You sound like a hater yourself.


OK, I'm game, tell why should I care?  If I have no personal connection with the individual, what's my motivation?
 
2013-12-30 02:32:34 PM  

here to help: In the "rights guaranteed by society" sense there is no problem at all but if you hold some kind of contempt in your heart towards people because of a genetic/biological predisposition it is not only irrational.


I think you need to show your work in asserting the underlying cause of a given dislike is the genetic factor and not the cultural/behavioral ones. The obvious genetic factor can just be a convenient identifying shorthand.

I don't hate geese because they are geese. I hate them because they are dumb, squawking, aggressive shiat-machines.
 
2013-12-30 02:35:45 PM  

zimbomba63: OK, I'm game, tell why should I care? If I have no personal connection with the individual, what's my motivation?


Here's a test. If a friend or casual acquaintance of yours told you they were gay (but weren't trying to hit on you) would you feel your relationship has changed? Would you avoid them?

If your son/daughter or other family member said they were gay would it bother you?

Or would you truly not care. If you don't care and nothing changes then yes... you win the prize. The whole notion that somehow the movement means you have to show up to every parade and like every single gay person you meet ever is a total fabrication made by bigots. Are there militant people that think you SHOULD be doing those things? Of course. It's a big world and there are a lot of idiots out there of all stripes but if you truly do not give a f*ck about what people do with their genitals in the privacy of their own homes and you believe they should have the exact same rights and opportunities as you do (because you don't give a f*ck) then that is all any rational person can ask.

And if you point me to anyone who is trying force you into a cheerleader for the gay movement I will sh*t right down their throats just a sloppily and heartily as I would a vicious gay basher because THEY are not helping the cause.
 
2013-12-30 02:42:18 PM  

This text is now purple: here to help: In the "rights guaranteed by society" sense there is no problem at all but if you hold some kind of contempt in your heart towards people because of a genetic/biological predisposition it is not only irrational.

I think you need to show your work in asserting the underlying cause of a given dislike is the genetic factor and not the cultural/behavioral ones. The obvious genetic factor can just be a convenient identifying shorthand.

I don't hate geese because they are geese. I hate them because they are dumb, squawking, aggressive shiat-machines.


So you dislike excessively flamboyant gay men. Well if that is your only gripe (and I mean ONLY gripe) then I can accept that. I find that to be a little annoying too unless they have some humor/intelligence to back it up. If they are just acting like catty teenage girls... well I don't like catty teenage girls either.

That is judging someones character though. Not their sexuality and the majority of gay men I've met do not behave that way. If it's just the lisp or some of the effeminate traits that bug you even if the person is well spoken and intelligent then I think that's bigoted. You wouldn't hate a woman simply for having a feminine voice or carrying themselves like a woman. If they were a vapid twunt... well that's a reason to hate them.
 
2013-12-30 02:48:30 PM  
And in regards to NOT being a cheerleader for the movement, as I said it is not required but they really could use the support. It's a solidarity thing. If you believe in freedom and human rights then why not stand up for them and speak out against those who would deny those things to your fellow countrymen? Many people who don't like gays or simply "don't care" will also shoehorn in gun rights into as many conversations as possible so they are obviously passionate about "rights". Aren't the rights to equality and freedom from persecution just as, if not more, important than owning a potentially lethal hunk of metal?
 
2013-12-30 02:49:27 PM  
If I am not mistaken the author of the biography in question has been accused of fabricating and misinterpreting in her other book. She sees EVERY male artist as either gay or closeted. It her entire reason for being.
 
2013-12-30 02:51:24 PM  

here to help: If it's just the lisp or some of the effeminate traits that bug you even if the person is well spoken and intelligent then I think that's bigoted.


I'm not sure "lisp" and "well-spoken" can really go together like that in any sense except the ironic. Especially an affected lisp.

\or a pascal.
 
2013-12-30 02:55:51 PM  

here to help: zimbomba63: OK, I'm game, tell why should I care? If I have no personal connection with the individual, what's my motivation?

Here's a test. If a friend or casual acquaintance of yours told you they were gay (but weren't trying to hit on you) would you feel your relationship has changed? Would you avoid them?

If your son/daughter or other family member said they were gay would it bother you?

Or would you truly not care. If you don't care and nothing changes then yes... you win the prize. The whole notion that somehow the movement means you have to show up to every parade and like every single gay person you meet ever is a total fabrication made by bigots. Are there militant people that think you SHOULD be doing those things? Of course. It's a big world and there are a lot of idiots out there of all stripes but if you truly do not give a f*ck about what people do with their genitals in the privacy of their own homes and you believe they should have the exact same rights and opportunities as you do (because you don't give a f*ck) then that is all any rational person can ask.

And if you point me to anyone who is trying force you into a cheerleader for the gay movement I will sh*t right down their throats just a sloppily and heartily as I would a vicious gay basher because THEY are not helping the cause.


A group a people I hung out, in the 70's, included a guy that was openly gay.  They were all from the same neighborhood and had grown up with him and had no problem with this.  As one of the outsiders, it didn't bother me.  He was one of the group I had been sort of adopted into.  I'm much more open-minded now, as compared to the 70's.

Just recently, my daughter (away at school) received a card from an organization we had never heard of.  My wife looked it up on the intertubes, and it was from a LGBT civil rights organization.  My wife said, "Do you think she's gay"
I said, "I don't know, I don't think so, but, what does it change?"  Turned out she had given a donation to the group and was now. considered an "ally".
 
2013-12-30 02:56:05 PM  
Who cares? His art was amazing.
 
2013-12-30 02:57:38 PM  

This text is now purple: here to help: If it's just the lisp or some of the effeminate traits that bug you even if the person is well spoken and intelligent then I think that's bigoted.

I'm not sure "lisp" and "well-spoken" can really go together like that in any sense except the ironic. Especially an affected lisp.

\or a pascal.


Well... so people with speech impediments/impairments that are no fault of their own are incapable of intelligent thought or worthy of respect?

Yeah... I guess I hear what you're saying. There's this Steven Hawking guy who talks like a freaking robot and sh*t. What a tard.
 
2013-12-30 02:57:48 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: JerseyTim: However, he was paranoid and always felt like somebody was watching him.

You're not supposed to start a sentence with "however."

That's the difference between "Prep" and "THE Prep."


However, I do it often enough, knowing the supposed rule, and not giving a shiat about it.
 
2013-12-30 03:01:19 PM  

zimbomba63: A group a people I hung out, in the 70's, included a guy that was openly gay. They were all from the same neighborhood and had grown up with him and had no problem with this. As one of the outsiders, it didn't bother me. He was one of the group I had been sort of adopted into. I'm much more open-minded now, as compared to the 70's.

Just recently, my daughter (away at school) received a card from an organization we had never heard of. My wife looked it up on the intertubes, and it was from a LGBT civil rights organization. My wife said, "Do you think she's gay"
I said, "I don't know, I don't think so, but, what does it change?" Turned out she had given a donation to the group and was now. considered an "ally".


So you don't care. Good. None if this would even be an issue if... well if it wasn't an issue. That's the ideal end game. That gay people are viewed as benign and get all the same glorious opportunities to be just as miserable and dull as the rest of us.
 
2013-12-30 03:05:01 PM  

gingerjet: HailRobonia: As a gay homosexual it is my solemn opinion that Norman Rockwell was not gay and did not have any secret hidden gay side.

Wouldn't that make you straight?


Perhaps uplifted emotionally?
 
2013-12-30 03:10:44 PM  

Delawheredad: If I am not mistaken the author of the biography in question has been accused of fabricating and misinterpreting in her other book. She sees EVERY male artist as either gay or closeted. It her entire reason for being.


Depict the male form? Obviously you are gay! Depict the female form? EXACTLY as gay!

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2013-12-30 03:15:07 PM  

here to help: zimbomba63: A group a people I hung out, in the 70's, included a guy that was openly gay. They were all from the same neighborhood and had grown up with him and had no problem with this. As one of the outsiders, it didn't bother me. He was one of the group I had been sort of adopted into. I'm much more open-minded now, as compared to the 70's.

Just recently, my daughter (away at school) received a card from an organization we had never heard of. My wife looked it up on the intertubes, and it was from a LGBT civil rights organization. My wife said, "Do you think she's gay"
I said, "I don't know, I don't think so, but, what does it change?" Turned out she had given a donation to the group and was now. considered an "ally".

So you don't care. Good. None if this would even be an issue if... well if it wasn't an issue. That's the ideal end game. That gay people are viewed as benign and get all the same glorious opportunities to be just as miserable and dull as the rest of us.


If that's everyone's end game, bravo everyone!
 
2013-12-30 03:25:33 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: You sound like a hater yourself.


Right on cue!
 
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